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There are more Russians standing up to Putin than Republicans.

When they say they are pro-life, they do not mean yours.

Stop using mental illness to avoid talking about armed white supremacy.

Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.

If you tweet it in all caps, that makes it true!

The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

At some point, the ability to learn is a factor of character, not IQ.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

This country desperately needs a functioning fourth estate.

This really is a full service blog.

Not loving this new fraud based economy.

Conservatism: there are people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

They love authoritarianism, but only when they get to be the authoritarians.

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Accountability, motherfuckers.

Museums are not America’s attic for its racist shit.

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I see no possible difficulties whatsoever with this fool-proof plan.

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The willow is too close to the house.

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Late Night Horrorshow Open Thread: America First PAC

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When the white-supremacist dogwhistling at CPAC is just too subtle for its audience.

Second year of this creepshow, and so far it’s a one-day conclave. A mere Representative as its ‘surprise’ keynote speaker, backed up by an ex-Congressman best known for his vocal racism (and private grifting in office). But its organizers cherish big, big Lebensraum dreams…

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  4. 4.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    Here is Gosar just 12 hours later

    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/gosar-knocks-white-racism-after-speaking-at-far-right-conference-that-glorified-white-supremacy

    “I want to tell you, I denounce . . . white racism,” Gosar said during a panel at the Conservative Political Action Conference on Saturday. “That’s not appropriate.”

    How does his head not just off and shatter like glass with the way he talks out of both sides of his mouth at once?

  5. 5.

    RaflW

    About the Nick Fuentes thing, first of all, it’s just shocking that neo-Nazis are already going after a person in a wheelchair. I mean, who ever heard of such a thing?

    Also, since one can see that Fuentes spackled a veneer of humor over his attack, this is spot on:

    @elinemd
    Open mic night in hell.

  8. 8.

    Achrachno

    @RaflW: On Fuentes: is he being watched by law enforcement, as I’d hope? Are there other crimes where you can be involved and out advocating more and not get called in for questioning?

  13. 13.

    The Pale Scot

    “Fuentes” ??

    Doesn’t sound American to me,

    Just saying

    “Are you Italian? Or worse?”

  14. 14.

    HumboldtBlue

    a site like this doesn’t need so much javascript that it’s ever tough on a browser.

    And that’s what’s so confusing, I’m currently on desktop, and it’s slow. I also have a slow-ass computer.

  17. 17.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Craigie: I think you are giving him to much credit. I think guys like him will say what ever gets to the most approval from the room they are in.

  19. 19.

    Chris T.

    @Amir Khalid: It’s also amazingly illogical, not that I would expect logic from them:

    “So Trump is the rightful ruler, which means Biden is the actual ruler. That means we are forced to do whatever Biden says?”

    “No! He’s a false ruler, so we don’t have to do what he says.”

    “And Trump, as the rightful ruler, if he were in Biden’s place, we’d be forced to do whatever Trump says?”

    “Ummm…”

    “Which means that under Biden, we’re free, and under Trump, we’re all slaves, right?”

    “Ummmm…”

  21. 21.

    David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch

    @NotMax: ​
     

    thanks for the tip. that really sped things up. What’s the downside to disabling it (if any)?

  23. 23.

    Chris T.

    @David ? ☘The Establishment☘? Koch: Lots of stuff doesn’t work with JavaScript disabled. I use NoScript, which lets you selectively enable it, which is kind of a pain: some sites tell you that they don’t work, others just don’t work and you have to figure out why, then enable whichever sub-sites are needed.

    (On the plus side, it’s faster and more private.)

  25. 25.

    BellyCat

    Front page usually (maybe always, I gave up trying it) throws error. Been this way for a few months  can’t recall when it started.

    Visually appears to fully load, but it’s continually reloading if you watch status bar. eventually errors out. Displays blank screen. Message is: “There appears to be a problem”

    The only way around it is to navigate into a thread then use arrows to next and prior threads. Seems fine then.

    straight up latest Safari in iOS. No blockers. Shouldn’t be hard to replicate to troubleshoot..  Fast fiber service, too. Similar shit on fast laptop. Safari again there but older OS

    WIll give Duck Duck Go a try sometime

    It ain’t just Firefox. Something is borked. Suspect ad loading.

  26. 26.

    WhatsMyNym

    I’ve found that Twitter is the biggest speed/loading problem . Now using Brave on my Android phone, it let’s you turn off embedded Twitter. You can open them in a new tab. It also has an ad-blocker.

  27. 27.

    smike

    @BellyCat: FWIW, Firefox w/adblocker. No issue with ads, no slowdowns on the site, just the usual comment thing. And I am actually able to use Visual on this comment. Something is bonked. Perplexing.

  28. 28.

    Zinsky

    Yikes! Photoshop the pasty white faces of those three doorknobs on to some brown SS uniforms and they wouldn’t look at all out of place. A perfect photographic rendering of Hannah Arendt’s immortal line about “the banality of evil”.

  29. 29.

    Basilisc

    So if the Jan 6 attack was really an Antifa false-flag operation, and Fuentes proudly took part in it, and Gosar and King back Fuentes, then they all must be … oh man, I’m so confused.

  31. 31.

    satby

    @BellyCat: I agree ad loading probably, and not just Zergnet. The [prosper? Prospect?] Whatever, the header and footer ads also bork things up. To the point where if you write a comment while it’s still refreshing you get the duplicate comment message, when it’s not. Only site on the net, and not happening with other WP sites like Drum’s, which admittedly doesn’t have decades of comments to index either.

  32. 32.

    Geminid

    Meanwhile at the shadow AFPAC convention, Mike Pompeo delivered a forceful speech to the CPAC crowd. He lauded trump for blowing up the Iranian general, and denounced the cancellation of the Keystone pipeline.

    Pompeo really leaned into the defense of the fossil fuel industry. I think this is a losing strategy. Polling consistently shows that a 70%+ majority of Americans support measures to combat climate change. And advances in technology mean that the clean energy transition is already well under way.

    Even energy state Senators Manchin and Murkowski know that climate change denialism is a dead duck poltically. They basically admit this in their joint energy policy op-ed published by the Washington Post last March.

  34. 34.

    Geminid

    And in other news of the right wing, Politico reports that former Ambassador to Germany and all-around asshole Richard Grenell has recently met with trump, lining up support for his campaign for California Governor. California jackals may echo the Missouri commenter who often says, “Blech!”                                    That’s a candidacy I am glad I’ll  be following from 2500 miles away.

  35. 35.

    RAM

    Words have real power, so how about instead of calling these creeps “white nationalists” and “white supremacists” we call them what they are: “radical racists.” Being a nationalist or a supremacist apparently doesn’t seem all that bad to a lot of people. But for whatever reason, racists REALLY hate being called racists because the term apparently strikes a chord. So quit with the euphemisms and call ’em what they are: radical racists.

  36. 36.

    Ohio Mom

    Late to the party but reassured to hear I am not only one having issues with loading BJ. We’re a loyal bunch though, persevering on despite all the crashes and error messages.

  37. 37.

    Geminid

    @debbie: It would take a long time to run out of coal, but it’s elimination as a fuel for electrical generation will likely occur this decade. Horizontal drilling technology perfected at the beginning of this century has allowed a resurgence  in American oil and cheap natural gas production, though. Fossil fuel interests want to squeeze profits out of more decades of oil and gas production. But even as Republican politicians make their big talk, the big oil companies are making their preparations to downsize. Slowly, they hope.

    Some, like Occidental, are planning to produce by 2040 only “carbon neutral” oil, by pumping carbon dioxide pulled directly from the air into oilfields to recover more oil. Occidental is building a direct-air capture plant on top of it’s Permian Basin holdings that it claims will extract and sequester a million tons of CO2 a year. The oil yielded might fuel aircraft, which require concentrated energy. There is a large tax credit involved, under the laxly audited Q45 program.

  38. 38.

    debbie

    @Geminid:

    Fossil fuel interests want to squeeze profits out of more decades of oil and gas production.

    What they want is other technologies not to start until fossil fuels are totally spent. I worry for the generations around at that time.

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