Project Veritas says the Justice Department secretly obtained personal information about its staffers during a probe into how the conservative activists got a diary purportedly belonging to President Biden’s daughter. The government declined to comment. https://t.co/dcg7M14hUy
— The Associated Press (@AP) April 14, 2022
James O’Keefe illicitly acquired a private citizen’s diary, and used it for dramatic readings in an attempt to get GOP dark-money donors to keep his grift going for a few more months. The fact that some of the people who threw money at Sydney Powell found O’Keefe too sketchy to bankroll might’ve given a brighter dude pause, but not our Jimmy. They’d probably give him a moderate sinecure at some ‘investigative channel’ think tank if he’d stop fumbling around the edges of serious crime, but apparently O’Keefe just can’t bear the idea of leaving the circus…
Exactly how Project Veritas came to acquire Ashley Biden’s diary in the fall of 2020 remains the subject of considerable debate and speculation. Ankush Khardori writes that the organization has offered the appearance, but not the reality, of transparency https://t.co/v9PkYhANkK
— New York Magazine (@NYMag) April 18, 2022
Lots of damning details here:
I did not enter with high hopes, but I was still surprised by how quickly my interview with James O’Keefe went downhill. “You’re a former prosecutor, right?” the founder of Project Veritas asked just a few minutes after we began. “Why should I have any reason to believe that you’re gonna be fair here?”
The question might have been reasonable were it not for the fact that it was Project Veritas that had reached out to me to do a story about the organization and its legal troubles. They are the subject of a federal criminal investigation into the possible theft during the 2020 election of a diary that belongs to Joe Biden’s adult daughter Ashley. The group obtained the diary that September after she left it at a home in Florida and considered running a story about its contents but ultimately did not. After Joe Biden won in November, Project Veritas gave the diary to police in Florida along with other belongings of hers that they had obtained…
As a fact-gathering exercise, the discussion turned out to be a deeply frustrating experience; O’Keefe was evasive and demonstrably unreliable. As a window into his methodology as a political and media operator — a combination of deflection, self-aggrandizement, and self-aggrievement, depending on what is most useful in the moment — it was an illuminating encounter if nevertheless rather annoying to endure and strangely pathetic to witness.
At one point, O’Keefe described the investigation as “the biggest and most egregious abridgment of freedom of the press in the history of the United States of America.” Later, he advised me, “You’ve never met an adversary like me, my friend.” (I told him that I did not regard him as an adversary.) He told me that he had been “incarcerated,” and when I asked him about this surprising claim, he said that he was referring to the fact that he had been restrained while his home was being raided last November. He tried to unilaterally put information off the record after disclosing it and was taken aback when I told him that I would not agree. By the time we were done — I finally had to hang up on him and his handlers after repeatedly suggesting that we cordially end the discussion — he had threatened to sue me “like all the other people I’ve sued” and repeatedly called me a “disgrace.”
Exactly how Project Veritas came to acquire Ashley Biden’s diary in the fall of 2020, during the home stretch of the presidential campaign, remains the subject of considerable debate and speculation. That is in part because the government’s investigation is ongoing, and in part because Project Veritas has offered the appearance but not the reality of transparency on the subject…
It is worth lingering over just this version of events precisely because it is Project Veritas’s own. For one thing, why would anyone ever believe that someone had “abandoned” a “diary,” particularly along with other personal effects like “an overnight bag,” “mail,” and “photographs?” The word “abandoned” is a loaded one because it implies that the owner has made a deliberate decision to relinquish her ownership interest in the property, but a diary is an object whose value depends almost entirely on the idea that it would never be abandoned — like a wallet, a purse, or a valid passport. If you happen to come across objects like these, you usually try (or at least should try) to find the owner. And if someone did want to “abandon” a diary, they would probably dispose of it by throwing it away — particularly if it contained embarrassing or salacious material — rather than just leaving it at a friend’s place.
The point seems minor, but it is potentially a legally crucial one. If the people involved believed that Biden had left the possessions behind to store them temporarily — and had not actually “abandoned” them in the sense that she no longer wanted them or intended to retrieve them — then the removal of Biden’s belongings and their transportation to New York in consultation with Project Veritas may, as the government suggested in its warrant to search O’Keefe’s home, have violated various federal criminal statutes, including: conspiracy to transport stolen property across state lines, conspiracy to possess stolen goods, and interstate transportation of stolen property. It would be important to establish what O’Keefe and others at Project Veritas knew on this point, which is likely at least part of the reason that investigators have been acquiring the group’s internal communications. The fact pattern potentially gets worse at the point at which the group, as they have put it, obtained “additional Ashley Biden belongings from the home later in September,” depending on who was involved in gathering those items.
When I asked O’Keefe what led Project Veritas to believe that Biden’s belongings had been “abandoned,” I expected him to tell me that this was the sources’ specific claim. That probably would not relieve O’Keefe or the group from criminal liability if they knew that the claim was false, but it would form the basis for a decent defense. Instead, O’Keefe refused to answer me with any specifics — claiming, incorrectly, that “you have all the facts at your disposal.” “Someone can provide information to me — a third party — and I have a First Amendment right to publish that,” he told me. “Period.”
Well, question mark. If a news organization actively participates in stealing material, neither the group nor the people involved are immune from criminal investigation or from criminal liability. Jane Kirtley, a professor of media ethics and law at the University of Minnesota and the former executive director of the Reporters Committee for Freedom of the Press, has expressed concerns about the government’s investigation. But, as she told me, “the First Amendment is not a get-out-of-jail free card.” As one court has put it — in a line that prosecutors prominently quoted in one of their court filings — “there is a significant legal distinction between stealing documents and disclosing documents that someone else had stolen previously.”…
Ken
It’s getting so a private citizen can’t steal anything without the government getting involved.
Baud
The Biden offspring sure like leaving personal things in odd places.
lollipopguild
It’s almost as if every lying thief has decided to be a conservative republican. Liars and thieves flock together.
Roger Moore
Claiming persecution is all part of the grift. It’s actually helping O’Keefe with donors that he’s facing a serious investigation over this, since it lets him play the persecution game. Not that it will help him if he actually winds up with serious jail time.
debbie
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Baud
By the way, all of my comments here are off the record.
Roger Moore
@lollipopguild:
Not all lying thieves are Republicans, but being a lying thief is clearly no obstacle to good standing among Republicans.
laura
When a Hardy Boy grows up and decides to be a profit seeking shite bag, you get a Jimmy O’K, the prettiest pimp you ever did see.
Ruckus ??
@Baud:
I believe that doesn’t count unless you inform ahead of any communication. And as you’ve been on this blog for a number of years without notification……..
Ruckus ??
@Roger Moore:
I understood that helped get one in good standing among rethuglicans.
SpaceUnit
Dude’s got a face that makes you look around for a piece of 2×4.
Calouste
@lollipopguild: Are you surprised that people who think that the rules shouldn’t apply to them (conservative Republicans), actually act as if the rules don’t apply to them (lying thieves)?
geg6
I read that article yesterday and I just can’t understand why someone hasn’t beaten the living shit out of this douche yet.
SiubhanDuinne
@SpaceUnit:
If he gets much older, he’s going to develop the same Befuddled Lab expression that Tan-Tan Tucker currently sports.
Another Scott
Nominated.
Hehe.
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
@Another Scott:
Heh. Good choice.
SpaceUnit
@SiubhanDuinne:
Then let’s hope he doesn’t.
Jerzy Russian
@Baud: Are you commenting from work like I am right now? If so, having these comments off the record makes good sense.
Alison Rose ???
God, that sure is a punchable face
LOL I wrote this before seeing Space Unit’s comment. GMTA
SpaceUnit
@Alison Rose ???:
It certainly bears repeating.
lollipopguild
@Calouste: I was surprised at times before trump was elected but not anymore, him getting elected was the batsignal to do anything and everything that they want to do. A permanent “get out of jail free card”.
Alison Rose ???
@SpaceUnit: We could all line up and take turns.
SpaceUnit
@Alison Rose ???:
Balloon Juice meetup!
ETA: I’ll bring a bundt cake. And the 2×4.
Just One More Canuck
@Roger Moore: As John Stuart Mill said, conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservatives
Redshift
“There’s something nefarious about the Justice Department obtaining information about an organization during a criminal probe” is some real “if they’re a cop, they have to tell you” galaxy brain stuff.
But “secretly,” I assume he means “they didn’t just ask us and take our word for it.”
piratedan
@Redshift: love the fact that O’Keefe has been cited multiple times, been found in the wrong multiple times and still thinks because he’s white and conservative that his past transgressions should have no bearing on his current transgressions….
and each and every time that his name is brought up in Conservative circles, he’s still treated as if he’s some Conservative Crusader.
cain
@geg6: Probably because it’s like punching shit. After the deed, you are still left with a stinking mess on your hands.
gene108
@piratedan:
And wealthy and powerful patrons, who can provide him with a top notch legal team, and if they think he’s valuable enough throw some money at the Federal Society to let any possible Republican judges know O’Keefe and the judge are on the same team.
different-church-lady
In other words, sociopath.
different-church-lady
@Baud:
In Russia, record off you.
Betsy
No matter how much thirty-something pudge that guy finally puts on, he will never look like anything but a sneaky, wormy, zitty, little 10th-grade creep.
ETA: I wrote the above before seeing any of the foregoing comments ?