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I know that not everyone here is a fan of AOC, but I am guessing everyone here will be a fan of what she said today.

When I get angry, words fail me.  Not so for AOC.

I think it’s fair to say that AOC has all the best words.  (today)

No, wait!  Eric Swalwell kept some of them for himself.

By the time this guy got to the front of the line, they were fresh out of the best words.

Power move?  Pushback from Hakeem Jeffries.

Where does the House Budget Committee rank in terms of importance?

Open thread.

 

 

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  7. 7.

    Baud

    @Ishiyama:

    The money is in appropriations. Budget is important, but I don’t think it’s super high status.  But maybe on par with Foreign Affairs.

    ETA: Taxes is Ways and Means, I believe.

  9. 9.

    WaterGirl

    That guy being interviewed about CRT is really something.  It’s what I would have expected, but it’s really something to see the ignorance displayed so clearly.

  11. 11.

    bbleh

    @Baud: both correct I believe.  Which is not to say Budget doesn’t have importance, because it’s the first step, and as such it has symbolic importance.  Eg the House will release “its budget” in April; that’s the committee that has primary jurisdiction IIRC.

  13. 13.

    km

    Since this is an open thread – I finally read NaijaGal’s book (‘Jollof Rice and Other Revolutions’) from this post last September. (I bought it then… but have stacks of books I’m reading so…) Loved it and will be giving copies to some friends. Especially like that it has perspectives and places that are different from those I know, plus the characters also spend time in places that I know. And seeing snapshots of characters across their lifetime.

  16. 16.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Ilhan Omar spoke pretty well for herself (I can’t find a full transcript so part from Rolling Stone and part from Aaron Rupar’s tweet)

     “There is an idea that you are a suspect if you are an immigrant or if you are from certain parts of the world or a certain skin tone or a Muslim,” she said. “It is no accident that members of the Republican Party accused the first Black president, Barack Obama, of being a secret Muslim. It is no accident that former President Donald Trump led a birther movement that falsely claimed he was born in Kenya. To them, falsely labeling the first and only [Black] president a Muslim and African immigrant somehow made him less America. Well, I am Muslim. I am an immigrant and, interestingly, from Africa. It anyone surprised that I am being targeted?”

    my bolding below, I recommend you watch the video is you haven’t seen it

    Aaron Rupar @atrupar 8h
    Ilhan Omar closes the debate and says, “this debate today is about who gets to be an American … I am Muslim. I am an immigrant … is anyone surprised that I am being targeted? … I am an American.

  17. 17.

    trollhattan

    @WaterGirl: But isn’t it nice to know that at least in Virginia, everything is so hunky-dory that fiddly education bits have folks so mesmerized?

  18. 18.

    WaterGirl

    @trollhattan: Not really. :-)

    If I were being interviewed, the moment I realized I had taken a totally ignorant stand, about something I knew nothing about, I would have smacked my head and said “wow, it’s clear that I need to do some more research.”

    That guy kept stammering on, digging a bigger and bigger hole.

  19. 19.

    Jeffro

    @WaterGirl:

    @trollhattan: I’ll say this, the GQP sure as heck knows its voters.  Just give them something, anything, to get them fired up and off they go.  No need for further investigation, no need to deal with all that cognitive dissonance – just fire away!

    (I mean we do too – it’s just that our issues are grounded in reality, science, actual shit we can explain)

  22. 22.

    barbequebob

    Gotta Love Them,

    Listening to NPR on WBUR this evening during a rare bad program on my local community radio station. I hear this, but know the rest of the story.

    “Stock markets were mixed today. The Dow fell 0.11%”

    In fact, here are the numbers.

    DOW   34,053.94     –0.11%

    S&P 500 4,179.76     + 1.47%
    NASDAQ 12,200.82   +3.25%

    So, although the statement is not incorrect, it leaves out the fact that the other two indices were significantly higher today and makes me wonder by what process they choose that one piece of data to be how they reported todays stock market results?

    You may not care about any of this. I only offer it as further proof of how useless NPR is as a source of news and commentary.

  27. 27.

    Craig

    @WaterGirl: That guy is like my mom’s neighbors in VA., the I Don’t Care For It quote is straight up something they say. They’ve heard something, they won’t learn about it,  but they don’t care for it. Fox News junkies.

  30. 30.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Craig: arguing with that guy is like arguing with Barney Frank’s proverbial dining room table. I was hoping the interviewer would ask him which school CRT was being taught in, but he heard it was being taught in schools, so….

    I heard Jordan Klepper (the Comedy Central guy, I can’t remember if he’s still on TDS with ?) on MSNBC teasing some interviews he has coming up with people who think trump is still POTUS. It’s quite a rabbit hole. trump is running the military, the good military, cause there are two militaries, the good one, that trump is running, and the bad one, that Biden is running, or maybe Obama. Guess which military is sending aid to Ukraine.

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    I’m gonna go watch Will Trent.  Is anyone else watching that?  It’s on ABC.

    It quirky, and has sort of a Monk feel about it.  Not the same issues as Monk, of course, but the detective is dyslexic and of course he has had to be especially watchful for other cues all his life since he can’t read well, so he can read crime scenes like no one else.

    Nothing gory, no autopsies with the chest open and the lungs pulled out.  Interesting stories and good supporting characters.  I would say it’s kind of a gentle mystery.  Off to watch Tuesday’s episode.

  33. 33.

    WaterGirl

    @Jobeth: Step one: find ice cube trays that make giant, perfectly square cubes.  Step two: order on Etsy.  Step three: more complicated than you expected, and you understand why no one uses them.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    I forgot to share my good news.  After a few days of feeling kind of crappy and finally having a cough for a few days that I couldn’t deny, I went to the University and got my spit-test for Covid this morning.  That’s a negatory on the result.  Yay!

    Okay, off to watch my show.

  38. 38.

    SFAW

    @WaterGirl: ​

    That’s right up there with “because I said so.”

    And “I did my own research.” [Although that seems to get used by anti-vaxxers more than anti- Black CRT-ers.]​

  41. 41.

    JPL

    @WaterGirl: If AOC could not convince one person on the republican side to vote to keep Omar on the committee, what do you think will happen with the debt ceiling.  I don’t think it looks good.  There are not moderate republicans.

  42. 42.

    Xavier

    I donate to AOC, not because she needs it (she doesn’t) but because she is much smarter than I am about how to use the money.

  44. 44.

    Jeffro

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:people who think trump is still POTUS. It’s quite a rabbit hole. trump is running the military, the good military, cause there are two militaries, the good one, that trump is running, and the bad one, that Biden is running, or maybe Obama.

    That…wow…that takes some serious head-stretching.  trump is running the ‘good’ military, secretly, somehow?  And he’s okay with what (‘fake’, presumably) President Biden is doing with the ‘bad’ military while keeping all of his own “ops” on the down low?

    Keeping quiet and doing good deeds without recognition…somehow, that just doesn’t sound like the trump I know…

  46. 46.

    FelonyGovt

    Not a big AOC fan but she was right on the money with her righteous anger there. I’m glad we have passionate, brilliant and quick-on-their- feet Reps like her and Jeffries. We need them.

  49. 49.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    Problem with committee assignments is you have to have a vacancy before you get assigned.

    Say someone is on Agriculture, but a seat opens up on Armed Services, if you have the right amount of seniority you get that seat, which then leaves open a seat on Ag.

  50. 50.

    David 🌈☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: ​

    In a live chat Michael Protzman -48 talks about the Trump rally and explains that Kari Lake was endorsed by JFK and that JFK was disguised as Trump.

    The “common clay” think JFK faked his own death and is still alive at age 105 helping… [checks notes]….. Dump and KKKari.​

  51. 51.

    mvr

    @FelonyGovt: I’m big on division of labor, coalition politics, and also playing to your district. So I don’t get as bent out of shape about AOC as lots of people do, though she does sometimes step in it.

    If there were ever a time where legislatively & starting from where we are at, both very moderate and very left wing legislators should be aiming for the same medium term victories it is now.

  52. 52.

    trnc

    @JPL: If AOC could not convince one person on the republican side to vote to keep Omar on the committee, what do you think will happen with the debt ceiling.

    While it’s a fool’s game to look for anything approaching reason in the modern republican party, I would point out that kicking democrats off of committees is a pretty pain free task for republicans. The same cannot be said of choosing to send the country into default.

  53. 53.

    Leslie

    @WaterGirl: I didn’t recognize the name at first, but when you mentioned the dyslexia I remembered that he’s a character in a series of books I read a few years back, by Karin Slaughter. I liked the character a lot.

  56. 56.

    HumboldtBlue

    BREAKING: THREAD: LORDY, THERE ARE TAPES: Trump campaign guy: “Here’s the deal: Comms is going to continue to fan the flame & get the word out about Democrats trying to steal this election. We’ll do whatever they need. Just be on standby if there’s any stunts we need to pull.”

  59. 59.

    StringOnAStick

    @barbequebob: What is even crazier is the Dow is the least representative of the three indices.  The S&P500 is the 500 largest stocks by market capitalization, if I remember correctly the NASDAC is even more, and the Dow is just 20.  The Dow “industrials” at one time in the 1990’s included that industrial juggernaut McDonald’s; I don’t know if it still does but it’s all such BS.  The Dow is the least relevant index for assessing market action but today it told the approved story apparently.

  60. 60.

    Tony Jay

    Pffft. They’re doing it wrong.

    What needs to happen is for more than half of the Democratic House to sit down with Republicans, the heads of AIPAC and the ADL, the senior editors of every newspaper and major TV News outlet and foreign intelligence services to strategise a way to make Democratic anti-Semitism the number one scandal for the next few years.

    Anytime anyone in the Dem leadership tries to talk about anything else (particularly anything bad for Republicans) they need to be drowned out by 24/7 caterwauling about rampant Dem anti-Semitism and their failure to stamp it out.

    Get that done, purge the Dem coalition of anyone who ever said a bad thing about Alan Dershowitz, get Republicans elected in a landslide, replace the current leadership with a reliably centre-right figurehead advised by Joe Lieberman and then never mention the issue again.

    That’s how you do it. This? This is just kids’ stuff. /s

  61. 61.

    Joey Maloney

    @trnc: As I see it there are two groups of congressional Republicans regarding forcing a debt default: the ones who are too dumb to realize what a disaster it would be, and the ones who actively want the disaster, who want to burn it all down because they think somehow they’ll come out on top.

    (There might be a third group, made up of people who know what a disaster it would be and don’t want it, but are pretending to belong to one of the other groups because they’re too scared of MAGAt voters.)

  62. 62.

    There go two miscreants

    @StringOnAStick: Not only that, but no one, not one single listener, should be making investment decisions based on soundbite reporting of one day’s moves in the indices. It’s idiotic to even include it in the daily newcast.

  66. 66.

    oclday

    The attention Ilhan is getting will no doubt elevate her death threats, but hopefully it will be offset amplifying her voice for good.   Stupid Republicans don’t realize their base is the minority.

  67. 67.

    RR_Mikey

    @WaterGirl: – they are sheep pointed in whatever direction Fox News wants them to travel.  The sad part is that his vote cancels mine…or yours.

  68. 68.

    Chris T.

    (probably dead thread but:)

    @StringOnAStick:

    What is even crazier is the Dow is the least representative of the three indices. The S&P500 is the 500 largest stocks by market capitalization, if I remember correctly the NASDAC is even more, and the Dow is just 20.

    The Dow or DJIA is the oldest of these Big Three US indices and:

    contains 30 supposedly-representative stocks
    is computed very weirdly, with a magic divisor

    (nb: above should be bulleted list but edit keeps dropping the list) and so is, as you say, probably the least representative.

    The S&P 500 is the middle in terms of ages, and is a capitalization-weighted index of the top 500 US stocks. “Capitalization weighted” means that, for instance, should Apple suddenly be worth a thousand times more than the next stock down, Apple’s stock price would be a thousand times more influential in the S&P500 number. (As it is, Apple and others jockey for first place and nobody’s 1000x the next stock down, so this works out pretty well in practice, but it’s still a bit tricky.)

    The NASDAQ is the youngest index and there’s actually more than one of them but the most often quoted is the NASDAQ Composite, which is computed like the S&P 500 but is from specifically NASDAQ listed stocks. The NASDAQ is a different exchange from the New York Stock Exchange, and this used to be important, but isn’t any more except for the composition of the NASDAQ index. There’s also the NASDAQ 100, which is the top 100 NASDAQ stocks, similar to the S&P 500 being the top 500 US stocks.

    Note that “US stocks” gets a bit blurry with multinational companies, but really means “listed on major US exchanges” (principally NYSE and NASDAQ).

    There are many many many more indices, such as the Russell 2000 (US small-cap stocks), Nikkei 225 (Japan), Morgan Stanley Capital International (MSCI) World, and so on. There’s a rather comprehensive list here on Wikipedia for your perusal. Each index has its own rules for how it’s computed from what inputs.

    That’s your mini-lesson in indices for the day. 😀 The simplest take-away here is that the S&P500 is probably the one to use if you only use one, provided you live in the States. And as Krugman among others repeats (correctly), remember that the stock market is not the economy, nor vice versa.

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