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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Excellent Links / Friday Night Open Thread: We’re Good, They’re… Fekked Up

Friday Night Open Thread: We’re Good, They’re… Fekked Up

by Anne Laurie|  March 3, 20239:52 pm| 131 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Jan 6: Hearings, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Stupidity, Republican Venality, Republicans in Disarray!

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smart kid pic.twitter.com/zF0xCz3dMS

— world famous art thief (@CalmSporting) March 3, 2023

Elsewhere…

Choice quote by Republican familiar with the proceedings involving Jim Jordan’s ‘whistleblowers’:

What Jordan has produced is “very much amateur hour.” Airing this “stuff on live television would make us look like morons.”
https://t.co/iFjMFgSr59

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) March 3, 2023

Seems like an accurate appraisal:

In early February, Republicans brought an FBI veteran to Capitol Hill whom they hoped would expose a “deep state conspiracy” among Democrats and their accomplices in the intelligence community. The GOP witness was part of a network of “whistleblowers” — funneled to congressional Republicans’ new Weaponization of Government panel by allies of Donald Trump — to reveal covert attacks on the former president and broad, anti-conservative discrimination.

But before the interview was over, it was the GOP witness who was failing to answer difficult questions — and Democratic committee staff doing the asking…

According to portions of transcripts reviewed by Rolling Stone and sources familiar with the exchange, Hill repeatedly declined to respond to the questions and cited his First Amendment rights. (He’d later go on a conservative talk show to accuse Democrats of trying to paint him as a “right-wing nut job” because they couldn’t handle his message.) As the exchange went on, Hill’s attorney, Jason Foster, begged the Democratic counsel to stop asking about his client’s tweets.

Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio), the chair of the new House Judiciary’s “weaponization” subcommittee, opened its first hearing vowing that he’d heard from “dozens and dozens” of whistleblowers about “the political nature at the Justice Department.” Indeed, powerful players from Trump’s orbit have invested in recruiting intelligence community veterans, hoping to produce bombshell revelations and must-see TV to rival the results of the Jan. 6 committee.

But so far, Republicans have brought only three of those whistleblowers to Capitol Hill for questioning, and have not scheduled any additional interviews after completing the most recent in mid-February. In the interviews conducted to date, witnesses have offered contradictory responses, maintained fringe and violent online presences that undermine their credibility, and failed to demonstrate first-hand knowledge of alleged FBI wrongdoing.

The results have left Democrats gleeful and even some Republicans deeply unimpressed. A “dumpster fire,” is how one Democrat with knowledge of the at-times combative interactions terms the proceedings. “Clearly there is room to grow and improve before [more] public hearings,” a Republican familiar with the process tells Rolling Stone. But the work so far, the Republican says, has been “very much amateur hour,” adding that airing this “stuff on live television would make us look like morons.” (Sources spoke on the condition of anonymity to speak candidly about the sensitive matters.)…

But if the whistleblowers aren’t able to produce what Jordan has promised, it will be a serious blow to Republicans’ plan to use control of the House to refocus the public away from Trump’s proximity to an insurrection and onto an alleged anti-conservative conspiracy.

The whistleblower pipeline comes from a collaboration between Jordan, other MAGA lawmakers, and top officials in Trump’s orbit. Whistleblowers have received payments and legal counsel through this loose network; one whistleblower, Stephen Friend — a former FBI agent who brought concerns about the agency’s questioning of Jan. 6 protesters to Republicans — even received a job…

After Jordan and his cohorts concluded their first “Weaponization” hearing last month, several figures in the right-wing media elite — who are staunchly loyal to Trump and the GOP and already primed to just run with the party’s claims and supposed bombshells — reacted with head scratches. “I’m sick of these hearings,” Jesse Watters, a Fox News host and a buddy of Trump’s, complained on-air after the inaugural House Weaponization of the Federal Government subcommittee hearing. “Make me feel better, guys. Tell me this is going somewhere. Can I throw someone in prison? Can someone go to jail? Can someone get fined?”….

Well, maybe! But Jesse won’t be happy when it turns out to be the Repubs who get dinged, will he?

Just how weak is Jim Jordan's weaponization lineup of "whistleblowers"?

This weak:

"We urge Chairman Jordan to schedule the public testimony of these individuals without delay."

From Democratic Staff Report's Forward by the committee and subcommittee's ranking members.👇 pic.twitter.com/nEG0ntvdZz

— Ryan Goodman (@rgoodlaw) March 3, 2023

Maybe it’s time Dems get serious about ripping Grassley’s
face off for having Barbara Ledeen, who spent 2016 plotting with Mike Flynn to try and buy non-existent Hillary Clinton emails from Russian criminals, on his staff. This is a guy who’s facilitated bad shit. https://t.co/zWCvmFm8eu

— Clean Observer (@Hammbear2024) March 3, 2023

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  1. 1.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2023 at 10:02 pm

    “Make me feel better, guys. Tell me this is going somewhere. Can I throw someone in prison? Can someone go to jail? Can someone get fined?”

    I mean, to be fair, this is how I feel every morning at work.

    In case you had a week like mine…. Cookie butter ice cream is a thing and you should have some.

  2. 2.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:09 pm

    May have been posted….Page 6 is reporting that Kellyanne and George Conway divorcing after 22 years and 4 children.

  3. 3.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 3, 2023 at 10:09 pm

    Nicolle Wallace and guests shredded this committee today, it was fun to watch. In essence, Jordan has dragged out some disaffected former FBI agents who couldn’t hack in the Bureau, to say bad things about Dems, and they are flailing as they try to do so.

  4. 4.

    Mike in NC

    March 3, 2023 at 10:11 pm

    We could have gotten rid of that senile bag of shit Grassley, but voters in Iowa love him. I was sent on a business trip to DesMoines around 1993. In January! They also adored Rush Limbaugh, who I heard in more than one shop I visited. I was there for 3-4 days and it only felt like a month. Funny how so much of the Midwest has decided to be part of the Confederacy in the 21st century.

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 10:12 pm

    @Quinerly: So George came to his damn senses 22+ years late I see!

  6. 6.

    hitchhiker

    March 3, 2023 at 10:14 pm

    @Quinerly:

    I assumed that was happening. People have been snarking for the last few years about how it was all a game to the two of them, but I see him on tv and twitter enough to believe that he’s genuine in his disgust for Trump and contempt for the people who know better but continue to enable him.

    Marriage can survive a lot of things, but contempt isn’t one of them.

  7. 7.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:14 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Some had wondered if it all was performance art.

  8. 8.

    columbusqueen

    March 3, 2023 at 10:15 pm

    @Suzanne: How about Biscuits with the Boss ice cream? Jeni’s just released it today.

  9. 9.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:18 pm

    @Quinerly:   Whoa!  But not really a surprise.  I always wondered if they deliberately played both sides to make money or if they were true believers.  Guess we have an answer.  Hopefully this will be better for their kids, not living in what must be a hostile environment.

  10. 10.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:18 pm

    @hitchhiker:

    I have been out of the news loop this week.

    https://www.salon.com/2023/03/02/charges-against-are-coming-experts-say-kellyanne-may-be-key-witness-in-manhattan-da-probe/

  11. 11.

    columbusqueen

    March 3, 2023 at 10:19 pm

    @Quinerly: I feel bad for the kids, & a little bit for George, who had to watch his wife throw everything else away for power & fame. Kellyanne can go rot, however.

  12. 12.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:20 pm

    @eclare:

    https://pagesix.com/2023/03/03/kellyanne-conway-and-george-conway-to-divorce/

  13. 13.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2023 at 10:20 pm

    RIP to Rafael Viñoly.

  14. 14.

    Scout211

    March 3, 2023 at 10:20 pm

    Whut?

    Trump has decided to forget about fixing the nation’s ills that he has harped about for years.  He’ll just start fresh!  Hmm, I wonder just who will qualify for his new fresh “freedom cities.”

    CNN — 
    Former President Donald Trump on Friday proposed building up to 10 futuristic “freedom cities” on federal land, part of a plan that the 2024 presidential contender said would “create a new American future” in a country that has “lost its boldness.”

    Commuters, meanwhile, could get around in flying cars, Trump said – an echo of “The Jetsons,” the classic cartoon about a family in a high-tech future society. Work to develop vertical takeoff and landing vehicles is already underway by major airlines, auto manufacturers and other companies, though widely seen as years away from reaching the market.

  15. 15.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 10:21 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Some had wondered if it all was performance art.

    I know I did.

    @hitchhiker: He should’ve divorced her when she went to lie her face off for the orange shitstain for money.

  16. 16.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:21 pm

    @Quinerly:   Thanks!

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 3, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    @Quinerly: Huh, I just saw this from George’s twitter feed. The Beast is having a Friday night meltdown about Alvin Bragg and Stormy Daniels. Always makes me wonder what bad news he got about whichever prosecution he’s ranting about.

  18. 18.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2023 at 10:23 pm

    @columbusqueen: Imagine throwing away your marriage for TFG.

  19. 19.

    Suzanne

    March 3, 2023 at 10:24 pm

    @columbusqueen: Haven’t tried that one. Dolceezza has a Coffee-and-Cookies that is pretty great.

  20. 20.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:24 pm

    Not for those with weak stomachs:

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/mar/03/donald-trump-song-charity-single-january-6-prisoners

  21. 21.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 10:24 pm

    @columbusqueen: I just looked that up, and am disappointed that it has nothing to do with Bruce.

  22. 22.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:26 pm

    @Suzanne:   Enjoying Häagen-Dazs dulce de Leche here.  The dog is eyeing me, I am no monster, yes, I’ll share.

  23. 23.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:26 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I like the reply: “Horse face says Mushroom dick… “

  24. 24.

    John Revolta

    March 3, 2023 at 10:28 pm

    Airing this “stuff on live television would make us look like morons.”

    NOW you’re worrying about this?

    People, that boat has sailed, left the station, and gone over the proverbial horizon.

  25. 25.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:28 pm

    @Quinerly:   Hahaha…did you get any snow or storms in NM?

  26. 26.

    hitchhiker

    March 3, 2023 at 10:28 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    He should’ve divorced her when she went to lie her face off for the orange shitstain for money.

    Yeah. I think he was among the people who tried to pretend that Trump was just a rando asshole who would be easy to contain and groom into a “good” Republican. That didn’t last long in his case. He was one of the Lincoln Project guys for awhile, until their older daughter went on social media and aired a bunch of family shit.

  27. 27.

    zhena gogolia

    March 3, 2023 at 10:29 pm

    Republicans brought an FBI veteran to Capitol Hill whom they hoped would expose a “deep state conspiracy”

    whom would expose — no, just no.
    That should be “who.”

  28. 28.

    mvr

    March 3, 2023 at 10:30 pm

    Of course in the long run the right wing anti-education folks are going to lose, even in Florida. But it is very sad that this super smart articulate undergrad from New College has to deal with this shit and have at least part of her education messed with. Lucky for us she’s already smarter than most of the FL legislature.

  29. 29.

    Another Scott

    March 3, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    Yay Team Blue!

    Meanwhile, Phys.org – Thinking about getting a second cat?:

    […]

    Your new cat needs to stay in their room for several days. This will help them settle down and allows you to introduce them to your existing cat via scent.

    Scent, especially facial pheromones, helps cats identify other cats that they are bonded with and is important for maintaining bonds between cats. Swap cloths that each cat has slept on, and toys. Place these somewhere the cats will come across them in their own rooms, but away from beds, bowls and litter trays.

    Neither cat should show signs of avoidance or aggression towards the cloths before you progress. Then you can directly swap scent between the cats. Stroke one cat, especially around the cheeks and area in front of the ears, and then go directly to the other cat and stroke them. Repeat in the other direction.

    […]

    Interesting. Worth a click.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  30. 30.

    John Revolta

    March 3, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    @Scout211: Right after he puts the finishing touches on that big, beautiful wall!

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    @zhena gogolia: To whom would they expose this?

  32. 32.

    columbusqueen

    March 3, 2023 at 10:34 pm

    @Suzanne: Exactly, & with four children to boot. The former divorce attorney that I am is going, “You stupid dumb bitch.” She’ll really find out how dumb she is if the children wash their hands of her.

  33. 33.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:35 pm

    @eclare:

    We have had some snow in Santa Fe. I just got back from 12 days in Silver City, NM. Lots of wind. Snow on the Black Range. I did make it to Gila Cliff Dwellings and the Catwalk. Beautiful. Love me some Catwalk.

  34. 34.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 3, 2023 at 10:36 pm

    @hitchhiker: twitter says Claudia was at a pro-choice rally post-Dobbs

  35. 35.

    columbusqueen

    March 3, 2023 at 10:36 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Yeah, but the early reviews are singing its praises to the sky. Planning to try it by Sunday.

  36. 36.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 10:40 pm

    @hitchhiker: Yeah.  One of the asshoies who was surprised that their monster factory finally created a monster.

    I have no sympathy for anyone who acts like the Rethuglicans suddenly became a “shitpiie of bigots and imbeciles” (h/t driftglass) in 2015.

  37. 37.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:40 pm

    Tough few weeks for musicians. I’m feeling old.

    https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/david-lindley-dead-obituary-1234690754/

  38. 38.

    Anne Laurie

    March 3, 2023 at 10:41 pm

    @columbusqueen: KellyAnne is the very avatar of a Jersey Girl, and oppositional defiance disorder is their mantra.

    George, IIRC, is a corporate lawyer — and a very successful one.  Corporate lawyers are positively allergic to phrases like high-level investigation and possible federal indictments.

    I do feel for their kids, and even for him (first photo I remember seeing of him, back when Trump was just getting into the race, George was holding K’s coat and looking like he could not believe his good luck at having hooked up with her).

    But KellyAnne is absolutely enjoying herself, so…

  39. 39.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:42 pm

    @Quinerly:   Just googled the Catwalk, looks really cool.

  40. 40.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 10:43 pm

    @zhena gogolia

    Really do not care to read anything which includes the words “Jim Jordan” and “exposing.”
    //

  41. 41.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:45 pm

    POS Don Jr at CPac:

    “Pennsylvania managed to elect a vegetable. I’d love for John Fetterman to have good gainful employment. Maybe he could be like a bag guy at a grocery store, but is it unreasonable for me to expect, as a citizen of the United States of America, to have a US Senator have basic cognitive function?”

  42. 42.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 10:45 pm

    @Suzanne:

    Interesting. Thanks!

  43. 43.

    ema

    March 3, 2023 at 10:47 pm

    OT: Walgreens gives in to terroristic threats and will not dispense a safe, effective, and legal medication. Luckily, only uterine containers use this medication so it’s not like this really counts.

  44. 44.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 3, 2023 at 10:48 pm

    @Anne Laurie: I thought Conway had worked for Ken Starr, but checking wiki he was an unpaid volunteer on Paula Jones’s legal team, so still part of the Vast Right Wing Conspiracy around The Clenis. I’m not one to shun converts, but I also have a long memory.

  45. 45.

    Sure Lurkalot

    March 3, 2023 at 10:48 pm

    RIP David Lindley. Will cue up El Rayo Ex, condolences to your friends and family.

  46. 46.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 10:49 pm

    @eclare:

    LOL. Softie.

  47. 47.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 10:51 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    That’s only a mistake to you and I.

  48. 48.

    mvr

    March 3, 2023 at 10:52 pm

    @Quinerly: Oh Shit! That sucks. David LIndley was brilliant. I just love Mercury Blues (or whatever the title is of the song w “Crazy bout a Mercury” in the chorus.) And lots more. Got to see him twice. once w full band in LA (drove hours since LA area is big). And once in a small acoustic show here in Lincoln.

    He seemed frail then, a few years ago now.

    Glad I went.

  49. 49.

    patrick II

    March 3, 2023 at 10:53 pm

    @Quinerly: I noticed George was losing significant weight when I last saw him on TV. I should have guessed..​​​ I​​​

  50. 50.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 10:55 pm

    @eclare:

    I actually loved it more than the cliff dwellings. I drove out to the Catwalk early and was the only one there for about an hr. Kinda surreal the way it is hidden. Gila Cliff Dwellings were cool, but I’ve done Mesa Verde, Bandelier, Puye, and some in AZ. The walk up to Gila was actually the best part.

    My last night in the area was a bit of a downer. Was in a cool bar in Pinos Altos, NM. Ended up seated next to a nut case female dentist at the bar. The whole ball of wax….Covid denier, Biden and HRC are pedophiles, Jan 6 was staged by the FBI, Obama wasn’t born in the US and is Gay, and Michelle is a man. They live and breathe amongst us. And a practicing dentist to boot.

  51. 51.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 10:55 pm

    @columbusqueen:

    She’ll really find out how dumb she is if the children wash their hands of her. 

    I hope they do.  What an absolute monster to have as a mother.

  52. 52.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 10:56 pm

    @Quinerly

    ::cough:: Strom Thurmond ::cough::

    (Not to imply any equivalence between the late bigot’s dearth of competence and Fetterman’s service. Don-Don’s statements are unwarranted, unsupported and odious mudslinging.)

  53. 53.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    @Steeplejack:   Ouch!  My ears!

  54. 54.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 10:58 pm

    @NotMax: I’m just going to shake my head disapprovingly.  You know what you did.

  55. 55.

    Mallard Filmore

    March 3, 2023 at 10:58 pm

    @Scout211: 

    Commuters, meanwhile, could get around in flying cars

    Being retired, I have too much time to refresh YouTube’s main suggestion page. Yesterday and today L.A. channel 7 had live police chases.

    I’m not going up there when carjacked flying cars careening across flight paths are possible.

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 10:59 pm

    @Quinerly

    Orly Taitz 2.0?

  57. 57.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 10:59 pm

    @Quinerly:   Paul Gosar was a dentist, too.

  58. 58.

    Shalimar

    March 3, 2023 at 11:00 pm

    @Quinerly: Around 3 years ago there was a story that basically said George had moved to New York to work out of his firm’s office there and he rarely saw Kellyanne anymore.  I think the only reason they waited this long to make the split official was for the children.

  59. 59.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:01 pm

    @NotMax:

    I interned on Capitol Hill in 1982. Thurmond had that much younger wife, who I think had been Miss South Carolina. They had several children together when he was ancient. We called him “Sperm Thurm.”

  60. 60.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 11:02 pm

    @<a href="https://balloon-juice.com/2023/03/03/friday-night-open-thread-were-good-theyre-fekked-up/#comment-8779630"Scout211

    Chinese balloon cars!

    Yeah, that’s the ticket.
    //

  61. 61.

    pat

    March 3, 2023 at 11:05 pm

    @ema:

    I will be transferring our prescriptions from Walgreens to the pharmacy associated with our hospital and can only hope that they will not go down this path too.

    Thankfully they are not associated with the catholic church, like the other major hospital in town.

  62. 62.

    piratedan

    March 3, 2023 at 11:05 pm

    @eclare: Tillamook Malted Moo Milk here….

  63. 63.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 11:05 pm

    @Quinerly:

    RIP.

    David Lindley on guitar with Ry Cooder (from Bop Till You Drop, 1979):

    “Little Sister.”

    “The Very Thing That Makes You Rich (Makes Me Poor).”

  64. 64.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    March 3, 2023 at 11:06 pm

    @NotMax:  beat me to it.

  65. 65.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    This chick was certifiable. Had just gotten back in town from Australia where she is now practicing. She left the country she said when Obama was re elected. First went to Singapore then Australia. There’s a story there but I can’t quite figure it out. I got her full name. I never volunteered mine. Looked her up on line after because the whole encounter was so jarring. I canceled my prime rib order and left without finishing my beer. She had had a practice in Silver City and Albuquerque totaling 30 years. Pres of the dental association in NM some years back.

  66. 66.

    Chris T.

    March 3, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    Mr Rep Jordan, sir, have you considered the possibility that you are morons?

  67. 67.

    columbusqueen

    March 3, 2023 at 11:09 pm

    @ema: My aunt just declared a fatwa against Walgreens on her Facebook page. She really wants them to go bankrupt because of the pill decision. 73 & still fighting the good fight.

  68. 68.

    prostratedragon

    March 3, 2023 at 11:10 pm

    Late late show on TCM will be The Killers from 1946, or as I call it, The Hat Movie. Remember, Kitty is innocent.

  69. 69.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 3, 2023 at 11:11 pm

    @Shalimar: I think in her book, which came out a year ago, she talks about asking him to go to a marriage counselor and he said, “What’s the point?”

  70. 70.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:13 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    I think he was pretty tight with Warren Zevon.

  71. 71.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 11:13 pm

    @eclare:

    😹

  72. 72.

    Captain C

    March 3, 2023 at 11:13 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Yeah.  One of the asshoies who was surprised that their monster factory finally created a monster.

    I have no sympathy for anyone who acts like the Rethuglicans suddenly became a “shitpiie of bigots and imbeciles” (h/t driftglass) in 2015.

    I’m old enough to remember the 1992 Republican National Convention being described as a narrow-minded “hate-fest” in the major media.  And that was when patrician Papa Bush was President.  They’ve been on this path since Goldwater and the Civil Rights victories in the mid-’60s.

  73. 73.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 11:14 pm

    @Steeplejack

    Ry Cooder. Capitol Records (IIRC) sent a press release to radio stations sometime in the early 1970s with the big print headline “Wry Kudos For [name of album].”

    Being hip don’t come easy.
    ;)

  74. 74.

    mvr

    March 3, 2023 at 11:14 pm

    @Steeplejack: ​
     Those are great. Remember hitch hiking to SFO from PDX and buying Bop til you Drop at a used record store. Many good songs on that record. One I kind of disliked because it seems kind of homophobic to me at the time.

  75. 75.

    mvr

    March 3, 2023 at 11:15 pm

    @pat: ​
     Quit Walgreens when I learned they backed ALEC at least 4 years ago. Now there is no going back.

  76. 76.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Pretty sure I read that Ivanka had suggested to Kellyanne to get couple’s therapy. That Kellyanne put that in her book. Ugh.

  77. 77.

    Amir Khalid

    March 3, 2023 at 11:16 pm

    Republicans brought an FBI veteran to Capitol Hill whom they hoped would expose a “deep state conspiracy”

    And immediately I thought, “Fox Mulder?”

  78. 78.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 11:16 pm

    @Quinerly:   Yeah, something about that story doesn’t pass the smell test.

  79. 79.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 11:18 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Yes, played on a lot of Zevon’s albums.

    And with Shawn Colvin. I think he’s on this song (couldn’t find confirmation). “Round of Blues.” Eh, great song, anyway.

  80. 80.

    Amir Khalid

    March 3, 2023 at 11:20 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And me, too.

  81. 81.

    Captain C

    March 3, 2023 at 11:22 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Fox Mulder as played by current Randy Quaid.

  82. 82.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:24 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    And way back with Jackson Brown.

  83. 83.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 11:24 pm

    @Quinerly: Ugh.  Crazies at the bar.  Hope you had something good for dinner elsewhere – in peace. :)

  84. 84.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 3, 2023 at 11:27 pm

    @columbusqueen:

    New season of Ted Lasso airs on March 15.

  85. 85.

    ema

    March 3, 2023 at 11:28 pm

    @pat:

    👍 Thank you, that is so good to hear!

  86. 86.

    ema

    March 3, 2023 at 11:30 pm

    @columbusqueen:

    Your aunt rules!

  87. 87.

    hitchhiker

    March 3, 2023 at 11:31 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    My sense is that they all knew the monsters were there, and were happy to use/abuse them. They just didn’t see the day coming when the monsters would take over, because they all thought it would be easy to control them.

    Trump’s big innovation was to demonstrate that if you’re shameless enough, nobody can fuck with you.

    Conway, Stevens, Wilson, Sykes, et al have a lot to answer for. I have a long memory, too. They wanted those judges and tax cuts, by god, and they got them.

    That said, I’d rather have them out in public blowing up the Republican narrative than sitting home on their piles of ill-gotten money and keeping their damn mouths shut.

  88. 88.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 11:31 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Can’t tell whether you got the joke or not. I’m going to assume you did.

  89. 89.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:34 pm

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Actually I was out of the mood for food and beer. Really cool bar/restaurant that dates back to the 1880’s…..The Buckhorn Saloon. I had been there a few nights before and it was pretty empty and pleasant then. I don’t eat a lot of red meat anymore. Had probably one of the best steaks in years that first night there and an incredibly interesting conversation with a local guy of Spanish descent that had just traced some of his roots back to some Jewish blood. I had read a bunch of stuff a few years back on the Crypto Jews of NM…plus, there was a great documentary on PBS on it. So hearing his story was fun and cool.  The crazy dentist was such a jarring experience after that original visit there.

  90. 90.

    mrmoshpotato

    March 3, 2023 at 11:34 pm

    @hitchhiker:

    They just didn’t see the day coming when the monsters would take over, because they all thought it would be easy to control them. 

    Exactly.

    I’d rather have them out in public blowing up the Republican narrative than sitting home on their piles of ill-gotten money and keeping their damn mouths shut.

    Agreed, but I still hate the bastards.

  91. 91.

    Keith P.

    March 3, 2023 at 11:37 pm

    @Amir Khalid: Instead, they got the hand model from “Zoolander”

  92. 92.

    Dan B

    March 3, 2023 at 11:40 pm

    @Scout211:  I can’t wait for all the mid-air road rage by the “freedom” people.  They’ll be meeting JFK Jr.*

     

     

    *Who I wish was still with us.  And the other lost Kennedys.

  93. 93.

    Amir Khalid

    March 3, 2023 at 11:40 pm

    @Steeplejack:

    It’s just me being sub-tel.

  94. 94.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 11:40 pm

    @HumboldtBlue

    Also too, knowing there are those here who dote on Idris Elba, new Luther movie comes to Netflix on March 10th.

  95. 95.

    rekoob

    March 3, 2023 at 11:41 pm

    @Suzanne: Built after my time there, but I’ve been a big fan of what he did across the street from the Robie House:

    Chicago Booth Harper Center

  96. 96.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 11:43 pm

    @NotMax:   I am one of those people!

  97. 97.

    HumboldtBlue

    March 3, 2023 at 11:45 pm

    @Quinerly:

    Jesus Fucking Christ.

  98. 98.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2023 at 11:46 pm

    @eclare: You know who else was a dentist?

  99. 99.

    Amir Khalid

    March 3, 2023 at 11:48 pm

    @Keith P.:

    They should have held out for the host of Red Shoe Diaries.

  100. 100.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:48 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:

    I can’t understand how he keeps living.

  101. 101.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:49 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    😁

  102. 102.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 11:51 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:   Never seen that movie, but I couldn’t make it through the clip.  Watching any kind of sadistic dental work freaks me out, which is where it looked like that was headed.

  103. 103.

    Ha Nguyen

    March 3, 2023 at 11:53 pm

    After watching some of Walgreen’s commercials, I’ve always thought its upper management was racist and/or misogynistic. No black people and every female was in a long dress.

  104. 104.

    Quinerly

    March 3, 2023 at 11:55 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I remember reading years ago that dentists had the highest suicide rate of the professions. A quick Google tells me they are now #2 behind doctors.

  105. 105.

    Steeplejack

    March 3, 2023 at 11:56 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Got it. 👌

  106. 106.

    eclare

    March 3, 2023 at 11:57 pm

    @Ha Nguyen:   When I got one of my covid shots here, the entire staff at Walgreens was wearing DEI t-shirts, for what it’s worth.  It would be really difficult to boycott Walgreens in Memphis, they own this market.

    ETA>  There are two within one and a half miles from me, and one is a 24 hour pharmacy.

  107. 107.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 3, 2023 at 11:58 pm

    @Quinerly: I believe they have a high substance abuse rate as well.  Comes of being hated and/or feared.

  108. 108.

    NotMax

    March 3, 2023 at 11:59 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus

    Presumably (haven’t looked) linking to Larry O.

    A more subdued dental scene, from Patriot on Prime.

  109. 109.

    Quinerly

    March 4, 2023 at 12:01 am

    @eclare:

    Marathon Man was a great movie. Laurence Olivier as the Nazi dentist.

  110. 110.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 4, 2023 at 12:03 am

    @NotMax: I considered this as well.

  111. 111.

    kalakal

    March 4, 2023 at 12:03 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Old Larry was utterly terrifying in that film. Roy Schieder as the shifty brother was excellent too

  112. 112.

    kalakal

    March 4, 2023 at 12:07 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    And there was me thinking you were going to link to this

  113. 113.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 4, 2023 at 12:08 am

    @kalakal: The book was even better.

  114. 114.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2023 at 12:08 am

    @eclare

    Semi-obligatory to link to W. C. Fields.
    :)

  115. 115.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    March 4, 2023 at 12:20 am

    @NotMax: and Steve Martin.

  116. 116.

    RaflW

    March 4, 2023 at 12:25 am

    MTG headlined CPAC tonight and couldn’t fill a ballroom. People like her and Jordan can get lots of twitter engagement and Fox/Newsmax hits, and keep their lopsided seats (though Boebert damn near didn’t last fall). But their horrible shtick doesn’t really sell beyond the crazification factor.

    That should be the news coming out of CPAC. But old Donnie Dazzlehands will speak this weekend and our very disappointing press will ohh and ahhh over it.

  117. 117.

    kalakal

    March 4, 2023 at 12:27 am

     

    @Omnes Omnibus: Yes, it was. Three Days of the Condor was a pretty good film around the same with a similar vibe to Marathon Man

  118. 118.

    Quinerly

    March 4, 2023 at 12:27 am

    @Steeplejack:

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=UBsxrzkw620

  119. 119.

    NotMax

    March 4, 2023 at 12:35 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist

    Also, peripherally, Greed.

  120. 120.

    Quinerly

    March 4, 2023 at 12:35 am

    @Steeplejack:

    This is pretty cool.

    GE Smith and David Lindley

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DrlL1UNU2k4

  121. 121.

    kalakal

    March 4, 2023 at 12:54 am

    @NotMax: 👍

  122. 122.

    AlaskaReader

    March 4, 2023 at 4:05 am

    Gimme Da’ Ting

    Track number 1 on the album Very Greasy

  123. 123.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 4, 2023 at 5:26 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: When I was just a tiny little kid

    My mama noticed funny things I did…

  124. 124.

    Barry

    March 4, 2023 at 7:02 am

    @eclare: “Watching any kind of sadistic dental work freaks me out, which is where it looked like that was headed.”

     

    I had that done to  me by an Army dentist.

  125. 125.

    RedDirtGirl

    March 4, 2023 at 7:36 am

    @zhena gogolia:

    there was a New Yorker cartoon years ago where one person says to the other, “ Whom, meem?”

    That has always stuck with me.

  126. 126.

    Chief Oshkosh

    March 4, 2023 at 9:34 am

    @zhena gogolia: Thank you.

  127. 127.

    What Have the Romans Ever Done for Us?

    March 4, 2023 at 10:37 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Honestly don’t know what the R’s thought would happen given that the Senate has investigatory powers too, and the J6 committee has all the receipts.

    I guess they thought this would play out like Benghazi but the Dems can fact check this stuff in real time and make them look like clowns. That’s how these BS “investigations” were always going to play out. Why they couldn’t see that going in…either they thought they could control the narrative no matter how sketchy their “evidence” was (which, given the MSM’s track record maybe wasn’t the worst bet to place), or they’re dumb enough to think they’d actually dig up some real evidence (also plausible).

    I suppose maybe they thought the Dems would just lay down and be doormats and let the misinfo go unopposed, but those days are gone.

  128. 128.

    WaterGirl

    March 4, 2023 at 10:47 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: Hitler?

  129. 129.

    wenchacha

    March 4, 2023 at 11:27 am

    @Quinerly: Did dentists ever get mercury poisoning?

  130. 130.

    StringOnAStick

    March 4, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    @wenchacha: Maybe a hundred years ago, but not within the time frame for this crazy dentist.  Plus they make the dental assistants mix up the “silver” filling material in a device called an amalgamator, which is supposed to limit any escape of fumes.

    The deal with dentists is that it’s in general a very conservative profession here in the US.  If you have a D or even slightly liberal dentist, tell your friends to go there because they are rare. The smart R nutjobs keep their politics out of the office, but look for things like bibles in the waiting room or the types of books/magazines, though most got rid of all that in early Covid.  Sometimes the staff will tip you off but they have to be extremely careful or they also might be fellow nutjobs too.  I’m so glad I’m retired out of dentistry, the only good thing about Covid for me.

  131. 131.

    SteverinoCT

    March 4, 2023 at 3:40 pm

    Seen in a “QI” clip:

    Knock, knock.

    Who’s there?

    To.

    To who?

    No, it’s “to whom!”

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