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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Cold Grey Dawn Open Thread: *Everything* TFG Touches…

Cold Grey Dawn Open Thread: *Everything* TFG Touches…

by Anne Laurie|  June 16, 20233:27 am| 66 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Trump Crime Cartel

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Looks like James Comer and Chuck Grassley are gonna have to find another ‘source’.

Well Wagner Group did have a rough few months there https://t.co/I28JzDadB7

— zeddy (@Zeddary) June 15, 2023

Never say an expensive legal education doesn’t teach people some things…

Tough question but I’ll venture an answer: By earning a reputation for ignoring their advice, putting them in personal legal jeopardy, stiffing them on their bills, and then rousing his vicious acolytes to pour out hatred upon them when things inevitably go sour. https://t.co/YEUOKRCKPs

— southpaw (@nycsouthpaw) June 14, 2023

it is a genuinely extraordinary achievement though. if you'd asked me a few years ago i would have said it was not possible https://t.co/VsVHh3w2ru

— flglmn (@flglmn) June 14, 2023

it is a genuinely amazing achievement to be *such* an asshole that it's hard to find lawyers who want to be seen representing you when you are the former president of the united states and quite possibly also the next president of the united states

— flglmn (@flglmn) June 14, 2023

@MichaelCohen212 would also add, by suing those former attorneys for defamation.

— VotingVetInPA (@VotingVetInPA) June 14, 2023

If anyone should need a reminder…

"It turns out no one got anything. Not even a cafecito to-go." https://t.co/2oDyhZlNIf

— Silvia Foster-Frau (@SilviaElenaFF) June 15, 2023

… The former president was fingerprinted and arraigned at the Wilkie D. Ferguson Jr. U.S. Courthouse in downtown Miami. And, no matter what side of the political fence you stand on, it’s a fact that after a hard day in court, you need a little break.

Trump opted to decompress with a trip to Versailles in Little Havana. The iconic restaurant has long been a pit stop for politicians seeking to curry favor with Miami’s Cuban voters.

Trump and his entourage arrived at Versailles shortly after leaving the courthouse and made straight for the bakery…

A glad-handing Trump was heard to declare, “Food for everyone!”

So, New Times wondered, did Trump — who famously fancies his chicken from KFC and his steaks well-done and slathered with ketchup but isn’t exactly known for picking up the check — treat his fan club to a spread of croquetas, pastelitos, and cubanos chased with cafecitos?

It turns out no one got anything. Not even a cafecito to-go.

A knowledgeable source assures New Times that Donald Trump’s stop at Versailles totaled about ten minutes, leaving no time for anyone to eat anything, much less place an order.

Per HuffPost:

… The New York Times reported that Trump didn’t get any food at the restaurant, preferring to eat McDonald’s on his plane.

HuffPost reached out to both the restaurant and the Trump campaign, but no one immediately responded.

But many Twitter users did…

I’m not the world’s most adventurous eater, but if given the choice between snacks from a nationally renowned Cuban bakery and some reheated Mickey D’s, can’t say I’d choose the Big Macs.

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  1. 1.

    Aziz, light!

    June 16, 2023 at 3:59 am

    Big Macs are still better than the taco salad at Trump Tower.

    How many years in total must our nation wallow in everything this putz excretes?

  2. 2.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    June 16, 2023 at 4:09 am

    Rudy’s source was named “Harvey“

  3. 3.

    Amir Khalid

    June 16, 2023 at 4:12 am

    I have no idea how many people Versailles seats, or how pricey its fare is. How much would it have cost TFG to buy everyone lunch?

  4. 4.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 16, 2023 at 4:24 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    How dare you claim that Harvey would have anything to do with an asshole delusional nutcase like Giuliani?!

  5. 5.

    Brachiator

    June 16, 2023 at 4:27 am

    @Amir Khalid:

    A glad-handing Trump was heard to declare, “Food for everyone!”

    Typical Trump. Natural born grifter. His fake generosity gets broadcast to the world. His base foolish eat it up and don’t see the con.

    I have no idea how many people Versailles seats, or how pricey its fare is. How much would it have cost TFG to buy everyone lunch?

    Let’s see. The Cuban Baguette, sweet ham, roast pork, swiss cheese, mustard and pickles, is $6.50.
    For a real billionaire, picking up the tab would not be a huge deal.

  6. 6.

    Tony Jay

    June 16, 2023 at 4:35 am

    “So while the Woke Media have been working like mules to distract your attention away from Clinton’s Socks with this joke theory that Republican Presidents can’t be trusted around the nation’s secrets – Hello? Hitlery’s hidden e-mail server, anyone? Hello? We remember! – Garland’s Gestapo Goons have been sneaking around Fascist Ukraine assassinating the brave truthtellers who’ve been trying to warn us about Uncle Joe Brandon’s decades of bribery and corruption. It’s in your face, people! That’s your taxes being used to pay these hitmen to parachute in to foreign countries to commit murder. Talk about spitting all over the Constitution! That’s illegal, baby. That’s what the Radical Left tried to get Reagan impeached for! How long are you all just going to stand by and let this happen? We can stop it, but it takes money and it takes bravery and it takes love of country. You think you got what it takes? Hit that DONATE button down below and we’ll be right back with more of the Truth about Hunter Biden and the Drag-Queen DemoRats.” #youtubemepatriot #45caliberfreedom #visitvolgavacations

    I think that covers all the major points of contention.

  7. 7.

    JWR

    June 16, 2023 at 4:53 am

    I haven’t caught up on the evenings threads, so this may already have been discussed, but I have one thing to say to Chino’s school board: Take your Florida values and shove ’em up your Texass! From CBS:

    Chino Valley Unified School District considers gender reporting policy

    In April, parents packed the Chino Valley Unified School District office to sound off on the board’s support of a controversial gender reporting bill.

    “It was heated but there were definitely more people who were in favor of parents’ rights than those opposed,” said Amy Féria, a mother of three. “I am sickened to think of any teacher, any school creating an agenda to keep us out of the loop.”

    However, after his controversial bill was squashed in the California State Legislature Republican Assemblyman Bill Essayli has partnered with Chino Valley school board president Sonja Shaw with the hopes of enacting a similar notification policy.

    “We’re now taking this effort and this initiative down to each school district. Chino is the first that’s going to hopefully implement this policy,” said Essayli.

    The mandate would force school officials to notify parents if a student asks to be identified as a gender other than what was assigned to them at birth. Supporters of the bill and subsequent school policy claimed it was a “parents’ rights” issue.

    There’s more from The Sacramento Bee, who’s headline more accurately reflects its story.

    California school district considers policy of outing transgender students to parents

    Chino Valley Unified School District staff would be required to out transgender children to their parents or guardians, under a proposal being considered by the school board Thursday.

    If approved, that policy would put the school district at direct odds with the California Department of Education, which has issued guidance to school districts to protect the privacy of transgender students who may not be out at home.

    […]

    The policy is supported by the Coalition for Parental Rights, which includes the California Family Council, the Pacific Justice Institute, and Moms for Liberty. The latter group recently was designated an anti-government extremist organization by the Southern Poverty Law Center.

  8. 8.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2023 at 4:57 am

    Hardly spontaneous, it was a pre-planned ‘event’ so costs associated with the trip to and from Miami could be covered by the campaign’s account.

  9. 9.

    Bruce K in ATH-GR

    June 16, 2023 at 4:58 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: We may be thinking of different Harveys. My mind immediately went to Harvey from Farscape, a much less benevolent figment than the one from the Jimmy Stewart movie. I could definitely see that other Harvey advising Rudy 911 Giuliani.

  10. 10.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2023 at 5:00 am

    @Tony Jay

    Oughtn’t that be Garland’s Gazpacho Goons?
    //

  11. 11.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2023 at 5:05 am

    How long do y’all suppose Jeff Sessions’ celebratory bender since leaving as AG lasted?

    a) 1 week
    b) 1 month
    c) 1 year
    d) still ongoing
    //

  12. 12.

    Baud

    June 16, 2023 at 5:06 am

    Rudy Giuliani says the GOP witness who had all the information regarding their fake Biden bribery scheme has died

    Shoot. Now they’ll just have to make everything up.

  13. 13.

    Shalimar

    June 16, 2023 at 5:07 am

    Trump doesn’t prefer the McDonald’s because he likes it better than the delicacies from Versailles.  He prefers McDonald’s because he’s paranoid and he thinks mass-produced food can’t be poisoned.

  14. 14.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2023 at 5:10 am

    @Shalimar

    “Does this special sauce smell right to you, Walt?”

  15. 15.

    Shalimar

    June 16, 2023 at 5:11 am

    @Amir Khalid: It would have cost Trump less to pay for meals for 100 people than the money it cost the Secret Service to arrange the logistics for the extra stop.

  16. 16.

    RandomMonster

    June 16, 2023 at 5:11 am

    I’m not the world’s most adventurous eater, but if given the choice between snacks from a nationally renowned Cuban bakery and some reheated Mickey D’s, can’t say I’d choose the Big Macs.

    Oh sure, I bet you enjoy arugala salads, too.

  17. 17.

    p.a.

    June 16, 2023 at 5:11 am

    I’m not the world’s most adventurous eater, but if given the choice between snacks from a nationally renowned Cuban bakery and some reheated Mickey D’s, can’t say I’d choose the Big Macs.

     

    Hey Anne, what makes you think he even bothers to reheat it? 🤢

  18. 18.

    Tony Jay

    June 16, 2023 at 5:15 am

    @NotMax:

    I hummed and hawed over exactly that, but in the end I decided it had more verisimilitude if it didn’t mock the Mickey Rourke Method Act’s inability to connect brain to mouth.

  19. 19.

    Shalimar

    June 16, 2023 at 5:17 am

    @NotMax: I have known Jeff Sessions my whole life (he’s my step-dad’s cousin).  I haven’t spoken with him directly in years, but I can guess the answer: until he got his ass kicked by Tuberville in the senate primary in 2020.

  20. 20.

    JWR

    June 16, 2023 at 5:17 am

    @JWR:

    who’s headline ?

    Geez, dude! Whose, not who is!

  21. 21.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2023 at 5:52 am

    @Tony Jay

    While you’re around, ever seen Bob Servant (a.k.a. Bob Servant Independent)? Noticed it’s a recent addition on Kanopy and a quick look for info about it online piqued my interest to give it a shot when next the mood for broad British comedy should beckon.

  22. 22.

    raven

    June 16, 2023 at 5:55 am

    Versailles an bakery?

  23. 23.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2023 at 5:58 am

    @raven

    Pro tip: don’t order a Napoleon.
    :)

  24. 24.

    Tony Jay

    June 16, 2023 at 6:08 am

    @NotMax:

    No, I haven’t. Never heard of it, in fact, but Brian Cox. That’s got good value stamped all over it.

  25. 25.

    Greg

    June 16, 2023 at 6:11 am

    His food is less likely to be spit on if a random staffer goes through the McDonald’s drive through than if he personally places an order that is just for him.

    That is why he prefers bad fast food.

  26. 26.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    June 16, 2023 at 6:58 am

    Gotta hand it to the guy…if you’d a told me there was someone who was such asshole that he’d get virtually every lawyer in the country, a group not short on assholery, to say en masse “Christ, what as asshole!” I would have been extremely skeptical. But here we are.

  27. 27.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 16, 2023 at 7:04 am

    @Shalimar:

    I have known Jeff Sessions my whole life (he’s my step-dad’s cousin).  I haven’t spoken with him directly in years, but I can guess the answer: until he got his ass kicked by Tuberville in the senate primary in 2020.

    Lord knows Sessions was and is on the wrong side of practically all the issues that matter to us, but at least there were some lines he wouldn’t cross for Trump.  With so many Rethug characters that have no such restraints (Tuberville apparently among them), that difference is worth recognizing.

    Commenter BR brought up the “Who Goes Nazi” piece from 1941 yesterday, and there was a fair amount of discussion about it.  But I think having some core integrity, some inviolable principles, is probably a big distinction between who goes Nazi and who doesn’t.

    Sessions, however bad he may be on so many things, is unlikely to go Nazi. Tuberville, like so many others, will follow Trump no matter what horrid policies that means supporting or excusing.

  28. 28.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 16, 2023 at 7:07 am

    Rudy Giuliani says the GOP witness who had all the information regarding their fake Biden bribery scheme has died.

    The fifth-grader’s “the dog ate my homework” was a more believable excuse.

  29. 29.

    Matt McIrvin

    June 16, 2023 at 7:10 am

    Can Trump really not find a lawyer, or has he realized that “I can’t find a lawyer” will actually work for him as a tactic to delay his prosecution?

  30. 30.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 16, 2023 at 7:22 am

    Just saw this – boy howdy, the RNC is making no bones about who they are:

    New: Asa Hutchinson has asked the RNC to amend its loyalty pledge so candidates won’t have to promise to potentially support a convicted felon. In a call today, RNC officials said absolutely not.

  31. 31.

    Princess

    June 16, 2023 at 7:29 am

    @Matt McIrvin: Changing lawyers is certainly a bid to delay.

  32. 32.

    satby

    June 16, 2023 at 7:30 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Harvey was kind and not a liar. You leave Harvey aloooone!

  33. 33.

    satby

    June 16, 2023 at 7:31 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: Right?!!!

  34. 34.

    bbleh

    June 16, 2023 at 7:43 am

    @Amir Khalid: well, how ever much it would have cost, it’s still cheaper to SAY you’re buying everyone lunch, have them cheer for you, get the story splashed all over the media, and then NOT do it and have the OWNERS be the ones who have to say “no.”

  35. 35.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 16, 2023 at 7:44 am

    @satby: I would hope Harvey would just sit on Ghouliani.

  36. 36.

    bbleh

    June 16, 2023 at 7:45 am

    @Tony Jay: “ChatGPT, compile a paragraph of unproven outrageous claims about Trump’s opponents in the style of a Rudy Giuliani rant.”

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 16, 2023 at 7:46 am

    @bbleh:

    have the OWNERS be the ones who have to say “no.” 

    Hopefully in the form of “That orange shitstain is a conman.  He didn’t give us a single dollar to cover the cost of anything.”

  38. 38.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 16, 2023 at 7:53 am

    @JWR: The California assembly should ban any school district from implementing this anti-trans policy. It’s dangerous.

  39. 39.

    bjacques

    June 16, 2023 at 7:57 am

    @lowtechcyclist: The dog ate my witness.

    Florida Cubans–sorry, not getting any response on the Give-a-shit-ometer. They’ll probably still vote straight ticket GOP.

  40. 40.

    Keith P.

    June 16, 2023 at 7:58 am

    I envision a “Trading Places”-style scenario where Trump yells in the Mar-a-Lago ballroom “IS THERE A LAWYER IN THE HOUSE?”  And half the room starts coughing and walks away.

  41. 41.

    kalakal

    June 16, 2023 at 8:01 am

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    “As I was walking down the stair,

    I met a man who wasn’t there.

    He wasn’t there again today,

    I wish to god he’d go away!”

  42. 42.

    EarthWindFire

    June 16, 2023 at 8:06 am

    @lowtechcyclist: Of course Rudy has a girlfriend. She lives in Canada. You wouldn’t know her.

  43. 43.

    Betty Cracker

    June 16, 2023 at 8:06 am

    @Brachiator: Not that anyone gives a crap, but immigrants in Tampa invented Cuban sandwiches, and the wingnut Miami restaurant where Trump did a drive-by doesn’t make a proper one. I’m sure theirs is a tasty sandwich, but it’s not “authentic.”

  44. 44.

    Tony Jay

    June 16, 2023 at 8:08 am

    @bbleh:

    “They’re not putting me out of business! I’m gonna put them outta business! You come with the crazy, you better not miss!”

  45. 45.

    gvg

    June 16, 2023 at 8:14 am

    @Matt McIrvin: I think the significant thing is that his last lawyers quit right after this indictment showed in detail how much effort he went to deceiving them into signing serious forms to the government that they had turned over all the classified documents, when he hadn’t. Those are crimes with serious jail time, and Presidential minions have in the past gone to jail even while Presidents haven’t. They tried and the feds proved to them how badly they failed, or even if they realized they were being fooled, they saw they could no longer credibly claim a defense going forward that they were fooled.  So they had to quit quickly. And I suspect every lawyer sees that…and says I am not sticking my foot in that bear trap too.

    Trump really worked hard at involving those lawyers in illegal actions and I think if Smith had not been so careful, Trump could have blamed them for some of it and got off again. Now I don’t know the law at all, but that is my “feeling” based on the way Trump spouts endless lies till he buries logic.

  46. 46.

    JML

    June 16, 2023 at 8:20 am

    @lowtechcyclist: the “witness” is from Canada, Rudy met her at summer camp. you wouldn’t know her.

  47. 47.

    satby

    June 16, 2023 at 8:33 am

    @Betty Cracker: Mucho gracias! Figures that even the “legendary” Cuban restaurant would be perpetrating a tiny fraud on its customers and that’s where tfg would go. Like attracts like.

  48. 48.

    Ken

    June 16, 2023 at 8:40 am

    I see from the screencap that Rudi is using his car as his video studio. Is he planning to run for something and trying to capture the tik-tok vote? Or will Fox not shell out to get him to a real studio?

  49. 49.

    bbleh

    June 16, 2023 at 8:41 am

    @Tony Jay: Lol I was thinking more of some of the Moscow boyz deciding that “Meester Giuliani iz now, mmm, conseedered, how you say, mmm, dizpenzable.”

  50. 50.

    Scout211

    June 16, 2023 at 8:44 am

    @Matt McIrvin: Can Trump really not find a lawyer, or has he realized that “I can’t find a lawyer” will actually work for him as a tactic to delay his prosecution?

     

    Cannon has issued her first order. We’ll see if she allows delays but she is starting  with a quick timeline. Link

    In a Thursday order, Cannon gave “all attorneys of record and forthcoming attorneys of record” a Friday deadline for getting in touch with the Justice Department’s litigation security group so that they can expedite “the necessary clearance process.” By June 20, she wants the lawyers to file a notice confirming they have complied with her instructions.

  51. 51.

    Freemark

    June 16, 2023 at 8:49 am

    @gvg: The lawyer who showed up to his indictment got a 3 million dollar pre-paid retainer for advice counsel months ago. From what I understand he has been distancing himself from Trump as much as possible. He tried very hard to find Trump another Florida barred criminal defense attorney to show up but couldn’t so got stuck sitting there.

  52. 52.

    sdhays

    June 16, 2023 at 9:06 am

    @lowtechcyclist: That pledge is just so dumb. If you believe that our Dumpy Dump will keep that pledge if he somehow lost the nomination, you’re out of your gourd. And if you’re Asa Hutchinson, what are the consequences to you if you sign the pledge and then similarly break it after Donnie slouches to the nomination and is convicted of high crimes?

    Ronna will stamp her foot and glare? No one gives a shit about the “pledge”. No one in the Republican party believes in integrity – clearly! Just say “sure, I’ll sign it” and never think about it again.

  53. 53.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 16, 2023 at 9:07 am

    @Betty Cracker:

    Not that anyone gives a crap, but immigrants in Tampa invented Cuban sandwiches

    Damn straight!  And even if Versailles is an authentic Cuban restaurant, that doesn’t make their Cuban sandwich authentic since, as you point out, the sandwich originated in Tampa, not Cuba.

    One of the great mysteries (to me, at least) of living in the greater DC area is that we’ve got cuisines of a hundred nations represented in these environs.  But there’s no similar representation of regional American cuisines.  Try to find a guava turnover around here, let alone a ‘Cuban sandwich’ that is anything like the real thing. (Good thing I get my fix of both in Tampa two or three times a year.)  And I gave up my search for a decent plate of crawfish etouffée years ago; it’ll just have to wait until I get back to New Orleans.

  54. 54.

    sdhays

    June 16, 2023 at 9:08 am

    @Freemark: Trump gave him (well, his super PAC gave him) all that money and begged him to join the team, and when he immediately told Trump to return all the documents, Trump stopped taking his calls.

    I got the impression that the distancing was mutual at the time.

  55. 55.

    lowtechcyclist

    June 16, 2023 at 9:13 am

    @sdhays:

    That pledge is just so dumb.

    Oh sure, it’s dumb, and I agree that the consequences of breaking it would probably be minimal.

    I brought it up entirely for what it said about the people officially running the GOP, that they insist that candidates have to pledge to support the nominee even after he gets convicted of felonies.  That they wouldn’t even allow an exception for that shows how far down the rabbit hole they are.

  56. 56.

    Tony Jay

    June 16, 2023 at 9:19 am

    @bbleh:

    “Who you say? Mister Ghoul? Mister Goonies? No, I never hear of such a person. What? Oh, that crate? Is nothing. Is just old, uh, old suits. I push in river now. Splash splash, bye bye. All gone now.”

  57. 57.

    Manyakitty

    June 16, 2023 at 10:55 am

    @Frankensteinbeck: exactly! He has much better taste than that.

  58. 58.

    Manyakitty

    June 16, 2023 at 10:59 am

    @Shalimar: who would have ever thought we’d miss that jerk? As awful as sessions is, I don’t think he’d put national security at risk the way tubby is.

  59. 59.

    Captain C

    June 16, 2023 at 11:33 am

    @NotMax: Definitely ‘D’

  60. 60.

    VOR

    June 16, 2023 at 11:48 am

    Trump has to be the nightmare legal client. Doesn’t listen, doesn’t shut up, doesn’t tell his own legal team the truth, and worst of all, doesn’t pay. IIRC there was a story that one of his former legal firms always sent two people so they collaborate the story he told in a previous meeting – basically one lawyer served as a witness.

    Look at his White House hires. He bragged about hiring the best people and then denounced them as horrible after they left. He recently attacked General Kelly and I’m thinking “Yeah, who hired him Donald?”

  61. 61.

    Daoud bin Daoud

    June 16, 2023 at 12:05 pm

    @Shalimar:  but the taxpayers pay for the Secret Service, the food bill would have come from his own pocket.

  62. 62.

    Paul in KY

    June 16, 2023 at 12:06 pm

    @Brachiator: Multiplied by the 11 people that were there and that’s gotta be $85.00 easy.  Too much…

  63. 63.

    Paul in KY

    June 16, 2023 at 12:07 pm

    @Tony Jay: You know, he  might actually use that, as he has to pay (I assume) for non-parody ad copy.

    If so, then gotcha libtard!!!

  64. 64.

    artem1s

    June 16, 2023 at 12:16 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: That pledge is just so dumb.

    It is dumb but it’s the only way the GOP can continue to raise money from TFG’s MAGAt supporters. The RNC can’t afford for TFG to be taken out of the field of play this early. Not taking it means you can’t get on the debate stage, so refusing is basically a campaign killer from the get go. So they make tons of bucks on the KKKrazy Debates where TFG slaps around the grifters, weaklings, media and whatever women are standing around.
    Seems to me the RNC is trying to force a decision early so they don’t have to spend any of their money on primaries and are trying to save it all for the general (or state campaigns). I’m betting they have already made their choice for who will ascend to the nominee should TFG be knocked out before the convention – and it ain’t DeSantos (Mother is going to super be pissed she has to go thru this deplorable crap all over again).

  65. 65.

    RaflW

    June 16, 2023 at 2:04 pm

    “A glad-handing Trump was heard to declare, ‘Food for everyone!’”

    Pedantic, but that sentence is merely a declarative observation. The unspoken “Hey lookit all this food for everyone that this restaurant has prepared and you each will receive a table check!” is just so obvious that no one should expect he meant anything else by it.

  66. 66.

    Tony Jay

    June 16, 2023 at 5:28 pm

    @Paul in KY:

    Isn’t there a Law about that? Named for some crazy Southern dude?

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