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Open Thread & Announcing Friday Evening Zoom with Immanetize (7 pm ET)

by WaterGirl|  June 22, 20238:48 am| 72 Comments

This post is in: Balloon Juice, Balloon Juice Zooms, Open Threads

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With all the legal ins and outs related to the upcoming trial related to Trump’s Criminal and Pathological Need to Hold on to Classified Documents, I asked Immanetize if he would be up for doing a zoom about legal stuff with us.

And he graciously said yes!

Other legal BJ peeps also most welcome to participate!

So if you’re up for joining the zoom – either with video or just audio – please chime in below and send me an email so I can reply with the zoom link.

I think this is gonna be great!  Who’s interested?

Open thread.

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  1. 1.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 8:49 am

    I put this up last night, but the blogfather posted 2 minutes later, so I pulled it.

  2. 2.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2023 at 9:00 am

    When you say Friday, is that Friday Friday or WaterGirl Friday?
    :)   (couldn’t resist)

    Hm. That’ll be 1 p.m. here, so 50/50 chance for me. Also 4 p.m. for West coasters, so may be inconvenient for them? All the more reason to record it?

  3. 3.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 9:02 am

    @NotMax: That’s the thing about time zones.  If we make it might later, it’s late for the East coast!

  4. 4.

    Sallycat

    June 22, 2023 at 9:05 am

    I’m interested.  How do I email you?

  5. 5.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 22, 2023 at 9:18 am

    I’m interested. Will email.

  6. 6.

    Amir Khalid

    June 22, 2023 at 9:33 am

    Off-topic: I don’t know if you saw it, but I noticed that comment #47 in today’s On The Road thread, not written by me and clearly not in my style, appears under my name. I commented #52 to ask what had happened, but haven’t had an answer yet.

  7. 7.

    TS

    June 22, 2023 at 9:34 am

    This may be  9am Saturday in my world. I have attempted to send an email – hope the time & the email work.

  8. 8.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 9:39 am

    @Amir Khalid: Look at the time stamp on it.

  9. 9.

    Amir Khalid

    June 22, 2023 at 9:47 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    That only leaves me more mystified than before.

  10. 10.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 9:48 am

    @Amir Khalid: I think it is a rerun.

  11. 11.

    Rob

    June 22, 2023 at 9:59 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: It is a rerun; it says this fairly early in the post:

    “originally posted on September 21, 2020 at 10:00 pm
    49 Comments”

  12. 12.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 22, 2023 at 10:02 am

    @Amir Khalid: WaterGirl is trying to make us all think we’re going mad. :)

  13. 13.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 10:04 am

    @mrmoshpotato: She has taken it from telling us everyday is Friday to this.

    ETA:  Going mad?

    But I don’t want to go among mad people,” Alice remarked.
    “Oh, you can’t help that,” said the Cat: “we’re all mad here. I’m mad. You’re mad.”
    “How do you know I’m mad?” said Alice.
    “You must be,” said the Cat, “or you wouldn’t have come here.”

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:05 am

    @Sallycat:

    Send email to watergirl at balloon-juice.com

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:08 am

    @Amir Khalid: Hey Amir, go back and read the blurb at the top of the post.  That will explain it.  Let me know if you still have questions after reading that.

    copied here for your convenience:

    @Amir Khalid: See the blurb up top:

    You may have seen me mention that we are coming up on 1,000 On the Road posts since I started shepherding the series.  That happens this week!

    To commemorate the occasion, I am re-running the two Farewell to Paris posts where Albatrossity and I each chose our favorites from the 5-weeks of Paris posts.  Such a lovely series of posts, it’s nice to see the favorites again, so Albatrossity and I thought that would be a fitting way to commemorate 1,000 posts.

    The comments were lovely, too, and in those threads we also talked about ideas for OTR, and it was good to see those again, too!  I hope you’ll read the posts and read the comments and think about some things we might do going forward.

    originally posted on September 21, 2020 at 10:00 pm
    49 Comments

  16. 16.

    Origuy

    June 22, 2023 at 10:09 am

    Reposting, for the morning crew:

    Last year, I posted a request for donations for my friend Susan, who rescued an entire litter of kittens 14 years ago. At the time, her Tabitha needed several teeth removed. Jackals were very generous in helping with the bill. I’m happy to say that Tabitha is doing great. Now it’s her sister Dusty Doolittle who needed dental work. Since they have to sedate cats to do the procedure, the bill is pretty large. I’m coming again to ask you to consider throwing in a few bucks. Here’s some pictures of Dusty and the bill.

    Contributions can be sent via PayPal or Zelle to me at jlanam AT comcast DOT net or to my Venmo account at @Jeffery-Lanam. Anything is appreciated.

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:10 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    She has taken it from telling us everyday is Friday to this.

    Am I going to have to make a rotating tag that says “Every day is Friday, right?”

  18. 18.

    Amir Khalid

    June 22, 2023 at 10:11 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    At last, a plausible explanation. //

  19. 19.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 10:12 am

    @WaterGirl: Today is Thursday.  Related:  I am not a number!  I am a free man!

  20. 20.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:13 am

    @Amir Khalid: @mrmoshpotato:

    I suppose it’s possible that I might drive you all mad, but I would never try to do that intentionally. :-)

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 10:16 am

    @WaterGirl: ​
      That’s what someone who is trying to do it intentionally would say.

  22. 22.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:17 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: hahaha

  23. 23.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:18 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: That is very likely.  But not in this case! :-)

  24. 24.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    June 22, 2023 at 10:36 am

    I’m interested in attending.

    Speaking of time, the more you read about time zones, the more you discover their weirdness.

    “While nearly all countries have hourly time zones – some are half-hourly – Nepal is one of only two places in the world that has a quarter hourly time zone, the other being the Chatham Islands (although Eucla in Western Australia unofficially uses GMT+8:45).

    Nepal is 5 hours and 45 minutes ahead of GMT, because it sets the meridian of Nepal Standard Time at Gaurishankar, a mountain east of Kathmandu.

    The odd time difference between Nepal and India has resulted in a national joke that Nepalis are always 15 minutes late (or, Indians are 15 minutes early).”

    h/t bbc.com/news/world-asia-33815153

  25. 25.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2023 at 10:42 am

    @Wyatt Salamanca

    Katmanoverdu?
    //

  26. 26.

    Wyatt Salamanca

    June 22, 2023 at 10:49 am

    @NotMax:

    For the win.

  27. 27.

    brantl

    June 22, 2023 at 10:50 am

    I would be interested. Brantlamb1 at gmaildotcom

  28. 28.

    Raven

    June 22, 2023 at 11:01 am

    I hope you can record it.

  29. 29.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 22, 2023 at 11:03 am

    @WaterGirl: Sure. Right. I believe you. Really, I do. You are above reproach.

  30. 30.

    Immanentize

    June 22, 2023 at 11:04 am

    Hi Peeps! Looking forward to Friday!

    I am hoping you will bring your questions. You all are amazingly well read and informed, so it is easier to sort through the legal stuff by responding to your questions and filling in background as opposed to just blah blah blabbing about stuff you already know.

    Also, Alito and Thomas can be on the menu?

    Immanentize

  31. 31.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 11:08 am

    @Immanentize: Dude, you are the chef.  I would guess it is your decision.

  32. 32.

    stinger

    June 22, 2023 at 11:12 am

    Email sent!

  33. 33.

    Raven

    June 22, 2023 at 11:14 am

    Going in for the nuclear injection before my brain scan . I hope they find something!!

  34. 34.

    Immanentize

    June 22, 2023 at 11:14 am

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Scallops, pan seared, with asparagus risotto?

    My law mind is going in a bunch of different directions. I have a funny story about selling dead bodies in Scotland and in Massachusetts (which includes forays into being buried alive which is on everyone’s submersible mind). I may write an amicus in a case in which some nimrod is arguing that the second amendment protects — get this — switch blades. And I am still researching a 13th amendment idea about abortion I’ve had….

    So in other words, i am completely undisciplined and would welcome the directive nature of questions.

  35. 35.

    stinger

    June 22, 2023 at 11:15 am

    @WaterGirl: ​
     

    “Every day is Friday, right?”

    “Every day’s a holiday, drill sergeant!”
    Ah, those were the days. Well, it was basic training, but also I was young and naive. Had I but known then….

  36. 36.

    stinger

    June 22, 2023 at 11:16 am

    @Raven: Fingers crossed!

  37. 37.

    Immanentize

    June 22, 2023 at 11:17 am

    @Raven: good luck! Nuclear powered Raven seems like it will be a good thing.

    Seriously, I hope you dont feel that “contrast medium” but that they find the issue.

  38. 38.

    OzarkHillbilly

    June 22, 2023 at 11:18 am

    @Raven: ​ I hope they find something!!

    At the very least a brain.

    ;-) ;-) :-)

  39. 39.

    Joy in FL

    June 22, 2023 at 11:18 am

    I will be at the Zoom.

    I will email you, WaterGirl.

    I was having a Thursday yesterday, and now today feels like Friday.  Time is so weird.

  40. 40.

    Raven

    June 22, 2023 at 11:24 am

    @OzarkHillbilly: That’s what I was thinking!

  41. 41.

    Raven

    June 22, 2023 at 11:26 am

    @Immanentize: They don’t even have DatScan listed on their sheet in the main lobby!

  42. 42.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 11:33 am

    @Immanentize: I say go wild.  Stream of consciousness lawyer babble.  People love that shit.

  43. 43.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    June 22, 2023 at 11:35 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: 😀

  44. 44.

    Immanentize

    June 22, 2023 at 11:36 am

    @Raven: ive never thought you to be a scare crow. More like the
     King of the Forest.

  45. 45.

    Joy in FL

    June 22, 2023 at 11:36 am

    @Immanentize:  I really understand the need for a focus when I talk. You know so much about a thing, and it’s hard to narrow all that and find an entry point and a focus.

    So here is what I wondering about:

    I think I’ve heard some people on MSNBC talk on this topic, so if it’s too obvious or already well-known, don’t bother. But I wonder what is likely to happen in any of the legal matters concerning defendant T, and what is unlikely. Time frames, procedures, venues, etc.

    I hear so much speculation and so much scattered information. Possibly something more linear or at least more organized would be helpful. I think it would help me filter out the sensational from the substantive.

    I just thought of this, which made me curious: what are likely voir dire questions that both defense and prosecution might ask; what are each looking to avoid and to retain in jurors? and why would those particular things matter?     I already think I have ideas about this topic, but when I listen to experts talk about what I think I already know, I usually get a lot more useful and valid information than I “already knew.”

    Thank you so much for doing this zoom.

  46. 46.

    Immanentize

    June 22, 2023 at 11:37 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: I happen to be a third level black belt in babble.

  47. 47.

    Madeleine

    June 22, 2023 at 11:39 am

    I can’t make it tomorrow. It’s spouse’s birthday so I’m pretending to take him out to dinner. Hoping there’s a video.

  48. 48.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    June 22, 2023 at 11:42 am

    Alas I will be traveling tomorrow. Please record!

  49. 49.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 11:43 am

    @Immanentize: You are all set then.  Of course, my advice was worth what you paid for it.*

    *Possibly less.  Much less.  So much less.

  50. 50.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    June 22, 2023 at 11:48 am

    @Omnes Omnibus: how much less, Johnny?

    [Should I add, in the voice of Ed McMahon?]

  51. 51.

    mvr

    June 22, 2023 at 11:53 am

    I’m not sure I can make it, but it sounds interesting so I will email to at least have the option.

    Mark

  52. 52.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 22, 2023 at 12:05 pm

    @Mr. Bemused Senior: Some things cannot be quantified.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 12:05 pm

    @Raven: Fingers crossed.

  54. 54.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 12:07 pm

    I have sent the zoom link to the 8 people who have RSVP’d by email so far.

    Hmm, I guess I should also send the link to Imm!  :-)

  55. 55.

    A Good Woman

    June 22, 2023 at 12:11 pm

    Count me in

  56. 56.

    gwangung

    June 22, 2023 at 12:26 pm

    This might be interesting….send me something…

  57. 57.

    MomSense

    June 22, 2023 at 12:31 pm

    Shoot.  My friend is visiting from Switzerland and we are doing a fondue night.  Hopefully we will have more occasions to zoom about indictments!

  58. 58.

    FelonyGovt

    June 22, 2023 at 12:38 pm

    I’m interested. Will send you an email. As a retired contracts and real estate lawyer, I’m not likely to have anything constructive to add.

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 12:43 pm

    @gwangung: Please send me an email message so I can reply with the zoom link.  thanks

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 12:44 pm

    @MomSense: You could have us on in the background. :-)

  61. 61.

    Almost Retired

    June 22, 2023 at 1:42 pm

    Awesome, I’m interested!  Although I’ve been practicing law for 35 years, I know jack shit about criminal law and procedure.  So this will be great.  Civilians who watch television crime dramas know more than I do about the subject.  I am looking forward to asking stupid questions.

  62. 62.

    Manyakitty

    June 22, 2023 at 1:54 pm

    Hoping to join the call! (Sent request email)

  63. 63.

    Maxim

    June 22, 2023 at 2:04 pm

    I’m in, will send email …

  64. 64.

    delphinium

    June 22, 2023 at 2:09 pm

    Am interested as well-haven’t been paying a ton of attention to the case so will be nice to have a discussion about some of the finer legal details (email sent).

  65. 65.

    featheredsprite

    June 22, 2023 at 2:18 pm

    Count me in. Email has been sent.

    Thanks.

  66. 66.

    BenCisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

    June 22, 2023 at 2:50 pm

    I’m interested and hopeful that I will be off work in time to attend.

  67. 67.

    NotMax

    June 22, 2023 at 3:20 pm

    E-mail dispatched.

  68. 68.

    Ruckus

    June 22, 2023 at 3:43 pm

    @Raven:

    I say the same thing every year when I get my MIR of my brain. I just hope that they can find it and that it never looks like a shriveled up, used Brillo pad.

  69. 69.

    kalakal

    June 22, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    Sounds good to me, will send an email

  70. 70.

    Ruckus

    June 22, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    @Almost Retired:

    Civilians who watch television crime dramas know more than I do about the subject.

    I do believe that you are giving the general public a tad more credit than they deserve. Now some of us have served on juries in criminal cases so it is possible some know more, but this is the general public after all.

  71. 71.

    O. Felix Culpa

    June 22, 2023 at 4:40 pm

    Adding to the requests for a recording of the eminent Immanentize. Alas, cannot attend live.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    June 22, 2023 at 9:20 pm

    I believe I have sent the zoom link to everyone who requested it.

    So if should have the zoom link but you do not, it’s not personal. :-)  Please send me another email so I can send the link to you!

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