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You are here: Home / 2024 Elections / Early night in Ohio —- good guys win

Early night in Ohio —- good guys win

by David Anderson|  August 8, 20238:06 pm| 204 Comments

This post is in: 2024 Elections, The War On Women, Women's Rights Are Human Rights

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I've seen enough: in a major victory for the pro-choice side, Ohio Issue 1 (a measure to raise the threshold to pass a state constitutional amendment to 60%) fails.

— Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) August 8, 2023

Good guys win

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  1. 1.

    sdhays

    August 8, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    That was fast!

  2. 2.

    MazeDancer

    August 8, 2023 at 8:10 pm

    Even Wasserman has seen enough.

    Yay, Ohio!

  3. 3.

    Betty Cracker

    August 8, 2023 at 8:11 pm

    We are watching baseball, which has gotten us through many an angsty election season, but I decided to pop over here to see if there was any word on OH. Only the best damn word! Woohoo!

  4. 4.

    Hoppie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:11 pm

    Was born in Springfield (because Yellow Springs didn’t have a hospital), but left when I was 17.  Ohio for the win!  Kay, congrats!

  5. 5.

    Raoul Paste

    August 8, 2023 at 8:12 pm

    I did the postcards to voters for this election

    Ohio, you are welcome.  But seriously, thank goodness.

  6. 6.

    Redshift

    August 8, 2023 at 8:14 pm

    Yay! A victory for democracy and common sense! Kudos to everyone who worked to GOTV!

  7. 7.

    Nukular Biskits

    August 8, 2023 at 8:15 pm

    I predict that here in MS, the Republican-controlled legislature will attempt to pull the same trick as did OH Republicans.

    For those not in the know, MS currently does not have a ballot initiative process (long story).  The Leg supposedly attempted to come up with one that met court muster but negotiations fell apart when they started squabbling over what issues would be mandatorily excluded (such as abortion rights).

  8. 8.

    TaMara

    August 8, 2023 at 8:17 pm

    BREAKING: ISSUE 1 IS DEFEATED IN OHIO! An incredible victory for democracy and choice! pic.twitter.com/gjZHPjd5N9

    — Mueller, She Wrote (@MuellerSheWrote) August 9, 2023

  9. 9.

    Betty Cracker

    August 8, 2023 at 8:18 pm

    @Raoul Paste: Good work! Thank you! ❤️

  10. 10.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    August 8, 2023 at 8:18 pm

    LANDSLIDE​

  11. 11.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2023 at 8:19 pm

    @Hoppie: Parents taught at Antioch?

  12. 12.

    Danielx

    August 8, 2023 at 8:19 pm

    Most excellent.

    Edit: no ballot initiatives in my fair state (Indiana). God forbid voters have any direct say on issues such as abortion.

  13. 13.

    delphinium

    August 8, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    Yes!!! So happy for all the Ohio folks.

  14. 14.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Flawless Victory – FATALITY!

  15. 15.

    Alison Rose

    August 8, 2023 at 8:21 pm

    Nice to get good news, and I hope it made all the right wing assholes super sad.

  16. 16.

    geg6

    August 8, 2023 at 8:22 pm

    Beautiful to see.  My neighbors there in the Buckeye State have been giving me the heebie jeebies the past few years.  I did some postcards for this and am very happy.

  17. 17.

    dmsilev

    August 8, 2023 at 8:22 pm

    That’s a “not even close” result. Congratulations to everyone involved. Bodes well for the actual abortion referendum in the fall as well.

  18. 18.

    Suzanne

    August 8, 2023 at 8:22 pm

    So far, this looks like a curb-stomping. I wonder if the margin will hold up.

  19. 19.

    mac8

    August 8, 2023 at 8:23 pm

    Thank freaking goodness my state hasn’t gone completely round the bend. I couldn’t help but be anxious, even though I knew that a lot of people here saw through the lies for the naked power grab it was — Democrats and Republicans both.

    I honestly think holding the election in August hurt them. “Oh, you are going to ban August elections because they don’t have high turnout and then schedule this for an August election?”

    I’m going to let myself hope this pushed some former republican voters to finally get over their hang-ups about voting for Democrats, too. That’s definitely a reach for some of my fellow Ohioans, but everyone has their tipping point.

  20. 20.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:25 pm

    @Suzanne: You know the reaction from the GOP is to try something else and basically defy the will of the voters or ignore it altogether.

  21. 21.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    @mac8:

    It tells you even they don’t trust they have the public on this issue.

  22. 22.

    zhena gogolia

    August 8, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    Great news! Congratulations to everyone who worked on it.

  23. 23.

    Gregory

    August 8, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    That result was fast and definitive.

    And bad news for Republicans: There are more of us than there are of them, and we don’t like out democracy taken away.

  24. 24.

    hedgehog mobile

    August 8, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    Excellent news!  Well done Ohio.

  25. 25.

    grumbles

    August 8, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    Yay! So glad. And very good to see it wasn’t even close.

    I’m from Ohio, most of my remaining family is there, which is why I’m not. But regardless of how they choose to use their agency, they have it, Republicans be damned.

  26. 26.

    HeleninEire

    August 8, 2023 at 8:31 pm

    WOO HOO. Great news.

  27. 27.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:32 pm

    I’m on Blue Ohio call and David Pepper and some other professional consultants are still waiting to call it. This is great call. Nancy Pelosi and Jaimie Harrison were on the call! Concy and Columbus papers called it.

  28. 28.

    p.a.

    August 8, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    YES! er… No!

  29. 29.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    August 8, 2023 at 8:34 pm

    Speaking of campaign failures:

    This exclusive @MarcACaputo story on the DeSantis campaign shakeup — Ron and Casey fired their campaign manager today — contains a key phrase about the replacement campaign manager:"…he has no campaign experience."This should end well.https://t.co/JgGGnNBUdO pic.twitter.com/CNis1U8hFE

    — Rick Wilson (@TheRickWilson) August 8, 2023

    DeSaster thinks the dogs will eat the food if they change the label on the can.

  30. 30.

    Suzanne

    August 8, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    @cain: There’s always a shady strategy. Some “smart guys” have already floated restricting voting to parents.

  31. 31.

    Jerzy Russian

    August 8, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    Drop your linen and start your grinnin’!

  32. 32.

    Redshift

    August 8, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    @Baud:

    It tells you even they don’t trust they have the public on this issue.

    It tells you they know they don’t.

    I read something a few weeks ago, where some GOP “strategist” was trying to claim that Dobbs wouldn’t have any effect on upcoming elections, and in fact, it didn’t really have much effect on the midterms. It was hilarious, the flop sweat was palpable. But I guess if you have no chance of convincing your party to change course, making shit up is all you have left.

  33. 33.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:37 pm

    @Raoul Paste: yes thank you and other Juicers who pitched in. People on this call are from all over the country and the number of groups who helped is amazing. One of the more salient points made by 2 experienced activists was that there are signs that the old coalition that elected Dems is starting to come back together.

  34. 34.

    Redshift

    August 8, 2023 at 8:38 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    Bwahahahaha!

    I can’t argue with th idea that he needs a “fixer” (in the veterinary sense) more than an experience campaign manager…

  35. 35.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    Ron and Casey fired their campaign manager today

     
    Is Rick Wilson deliberately treating the Mrs. as a co-candidate?

  36. 36.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:40 pm

    @Redshift: one of our state reps who talked to people at the polls and while canvassing said many Republicans were voting no. Also they’re noting on the call that normally uber red precincts are seeing smaller margins between the Yes and No votes even though Yes votes won out.

  37. 37.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 8:41 pm

    @Kathleen:

    Just what Sherrod Brown needs next year.

  38. 38.

    columbusqueen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:41 pm

    Made it in to vote NO despite have dental surgery in the early morning. Was definitely worth it.

  39. 39.

    Redshift

    August 8, 2023 at 8:41 pm

    This result also feels encouraging for this fall’s legislative elections in VA. Abortion is definitely on the ballot, with Youngkin avoiding professing any particular views on abortion other than insisting that a 15-week ban is a “compromise”, while promising to sign anything the legislature puts in front of him if they get majorities in both houses.

  40. 40.

    Ohio Mom

    August 8, 2023 at 8:41 pm

    Wow. I was hoping we would win but did not dream of winning this big. Maybe there is hope for my adopted state yet.

  41. 41.

    Redshift

    August 8, 2023 at 8:42 pm

    @columbusqueen: Thank you for your dedication!

  42. 42.

    Dan B

    August 8, 2023 at 8:44 pm

    @Hoppie:  19 years old for my departure.  I was so glad to get out.  Today between the judge shooting down the anti trans law and this landslide there are some bright spots.

  43. 43.

    Ryan

    August 8, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    FUCK YEAH, WE WON!!??!?!

  44. 44.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:45 pm

    @Baud: They’re saying Sherrod still gets thst old coalition support but they wantvto replicate his success state wide. One of the experts said his biggest surprise was that support for the amendment in the red exurbs was not as strong as was expected They’re  using Vance’s campaign as a benchmark to compare results for tonight.

  45. 45.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:46 pm

    @sdhays: Good news travels fast!😊

  46. 46.

    Ryan

    August 8, 2023 at 8:46 pm

    @TaMara: ​
     

    Jeebus. That’s a hell of a wallop. A shelacking one might say.

  47. 47.

    SpaceUnit

    August 8, 2023 at 8:47 pm

    Which of the NYT’s opinion models will try to spin this as a bad sign for Democrats in 2024?

  48. 48.

    different-church-lady

    August 8, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    @SpaceUnit: All of them, Katie.

  49. 49.

    Ryan

    August 8, 2023 at 8:48 pm

    @Baud: She’d be the better candidate?

  50. 50.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:49 pm

    @columbusqueen: Good for you!

  51. 51.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 8:49 pm

    I just shut CNN off because they told me we won because Republicans didn’t like the special August election. The only voters they recognize are Republicans.

    These people are nutjobs. They absolutely refuse to admit that this shit is not popular and they refuse to acknowlege that women have political power. They will die on this hill.

  52. 52.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 8:49 pm

    @SpaceUnit:

    “Biden’s absence in campaign leading to landslide Ohio victory portends dark clouds for reelection bid.”

  53. 53.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    @TaMara: I’m so hoping when all the votes are counted, the NOs will be 60% plus 1 (or more!!!) That would be poetic justice!

  54. 54.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I’m so pumped on this call! I[

  55. 55.

    Ryan

    August 8, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Nah, De De Santis needs to offer the dogs sunshine and rainbows for the rest of their travails.  And he can’t do that.

  56. 56.

    LAO

    August 8, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    OMG, I hate how optimistic this victory makes me for 2024.

  57. 57.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 8:51 pm

    @Kay:

    “Republicans let them win.”

  58. 58.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:52 pm

    @Jackie: They’re saying totals so far don’t reflect in person voting today in Hamilton, Franklin and Cuyahoga, the three biggest Dem strongholds.

    It’s now official. Yay!!!!!!

  59. 59.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 8, 2023 at 8:53 pm

    I was driving around rural northeast Ohio for a couple of days last week, and saw a pretty fair number of “NO” signs, all of the standard small lawn sign size, all on residential properties. I saw far fewer “YES” signs, and they were all huge, clearly paid placements. Led me to conclude that there wasn’t that much grass-roots support for “Yes.”

  60. 60.

    kalakal

    August 8, 2023 at 8:53 pm

    @SpaceUnit: Is Biden being lulled into a false senses of security by Ohio results? Regulars at this diner say..

  61. 61.

    p.a.

    August 8, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    @Kay: They will die on this hill.

     

     

    I certainly hope so.  Can’t wait ’till the numbnuts go after the 19th Amendment.  A few more national election losses and they’ll have to.

  62. 62.

    SpaceUnit

    August 8, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    @Baud:

    Perfect!

  63. 63.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    @Kay: The media is against us. They want chaos to sell their ads. They are insane.

  64. 64.

    OGLiberal

    August 8, 2023 at 8:54 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I wish I could say and the same but I’m a Mets fan.  Mets games/seasons consist of 96% angst.

  65. 65.

    Nukular Biskits

    August 8, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    @Baud:

    “Biden’s absence in campaign leading to landslide Ohio victory portends dark clouds for reelection bid.”

    Send that to DougJ.

  66. 66.

    Karen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    Winning the election is great but so far, the GOP has been ignoring it or passing last minute laws to make it null and void. What will happen this time?

  67. 67.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:57 pm

    @LAO:

    “I hate how optimistic this victory makes me for 2024.”

    NOMINATED!

  68. 68.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2023 at 8:58 pm

    Harbaugh would do better than yes.

  69. 69.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    @Karen: What will happen this time?

    Well, someone might shit in the punch bowl.

  70. 70.

    Kathleen

    August 8, 2023 at 8:59 pm

    @Baud: “if Joe Biden were serious about uniting the country he would tell Ohio to reverse the results.”

  71. 71.

    Percysowner

    August 8, 2023 at 9:00 pm

    MSNBC just reported that the AP has now called the race

  72. 72.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    August 8, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    @OGLiberal:

    Men in Black 3
    That is all.

  73. 73.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Who’s Harbough?

    I’m only aware of the coaching brothers.

  74. 74.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    @Karen: I heard something about a GOP lawsuit to yank the pro-choice amendment off the ballot altogether.  Can’t remember what grounds they were going to/are going to claim.  But if they’re going to go that route, they’ve got to file the suit pretty fast, since change-the-referendum-rules didn’t work.

  75. 75.

    Omnes Omnibus

    August 8, 2023 at 9:05 pm

    @Jackie: ​
      Yes. Jim is the football coach at Michigan. Not a popular man in Ohio.

  76. 76.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 9:07 pm

    @Baud:

    It was fun though and Kathleen’s right- a great coalition – everyone worked and no one bitched except for yard signs because Democrats are irrationally obsessed with yard signs. Plus! Cleveland’s back!

  77. 77.

    Freemark

    August 8, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    @SpaceUnit: And especially good news for John McCain.

  78. 78.

    Mel

    August 8, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    @Kathleen: Absolutely. Pike County os a great example. They were still a yes, but it is such a red county and the margins shifted dramatically enough on this vote that it’s clear that a notable percentage of the no votes were from Republicans.

  79. 79.

    Sure Lurkalot

    August 8, 2023 at 9:08 pm

    MSNBC prime time open…the Trump show. What’s wrong with these people? I realize your show is scripted but when you have good news for democracy laid at your feet, maybe run with that, our oh so liberal news channel.

  80. 80.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 9:09 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    Every time I flip to them, it’s all Trump all the time.  And even before the recent indictments.

  81. 81.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 9:10 pm

    @Kay:

    Fingers crossed for a turnaround.

  82. 82.

    MomSense

    August 8, 2023 at 9:11 pm

    Fantastic news!!

  83. 83.

    SpaceUnit

    August 8, 2023 at 9:11 pm

    @Freemark:

    Yeah, McCain is poised to mount a comeback.

  84. 84.

    MattF

    August 8, 2023 at 9:11 pm

    AP, WaPo, NYT have all called it.

  85. 85.

    Chief Oshkosh

    August 8, 2023 at 9:12 pm

    @Kay: Just as long as they die. And soon. I’m not picky on which hill

  86. 86.

    sab

    August 8, 2023 at 9:12 pm

    @Kay: Kaitlan Collins is a moron.

  87. 87.

    Doc Sardonic

    August 8, 2023 at 9:14 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Just float a Baby Ruth candy bar in the punch bowl….

  88. 88.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    August 8, 2023 at 9:14 pm

    Whoo hooo! There might be hope for this hell state yet. I’m so happy that voters saw through this brazen power grab attempt. Our citizen-intitated amendment referendum process has worked just fine for the last 111 years, there was no legitimate reason to change it except to do it an end run around voters to prevent a vote for enshrining abortion rights in the state constitution

  89. 89.

    Mel

    August 8, 2023 at 9:15 pm

    @Kathleen: Hamilton was at 78% NO, 22% YES about an hour ago. 😺

  90. 90.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 8, 2023 at 9:16 pm

    Expect the American Fascist Party to react poorly, because they KNOW that they cannot win free and fair elections with their agenda.  The billionaire parasites who provide the dark money for AFP campaigns are not happy.  Too fuckin’ bad, assholes.

  91. 91.

    kalakal

    August 8, 2023 at 9:17 pm

    Mrs kalakal is from Ohio and is in a particularly good mood right now. Still lots of family there. She’s from Ross county which was 67% Trump in 2020, so far it’s 61% No.

  92. 92.

    Mel

    August 8, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Wait- what? Fellow Ohioan?

    Hi, neighbor!!!

  93. 93.

    Another Scott

    August 8, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    Ay, oh, way to go, Ohio.

    Seriously.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  94. 94.

    geg6

    August 8, 2023 at 9:20 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    My feelings exactly.  Too fucking bad, fucking assholes.

  95. 95.

    Almost Retired

    August 8, 2023 at 9:20 pm

    Woo Hoo!  Maybe we shouldn’t write off Ohio (not that anyone here is).  This gives me hope.  And I’m really happy about the Hamilton County results because I think Cincinnati is one of the most underrated cities in the country.

  96. 96.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 8, 2023 at 9:21 pm

    Weren’t the polls saying this was neck and neck?

  97. 97.

    Westyny

    August 8, 2023 at 9:21 pm

    @cain: If we ever get super majorities in all branches of federal and state governments that can theoretically have them, along with all executive offices, I will still happily follow a “woke” media reporting on the the last fascists being rooted out from their hidey-holes.  I guess the MSM doesn’t trust me.

  98. 98.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 9:23 pm

    I’m starting to get a little nervous; with 52% of the vote counted, NO is only ahead by 15 points now.
    I don’t know how many outstanding votes are in Democratic or Dem-leaning areas, and how many are in GOP areas, but YES is gaining.
    ETA: Looking at county-by-county, it looks like YES is gaining votes in precincts where it lost; that is, YES is less behind than it was.  And in the precincts where YES won, its lead is growing.​

  99. 99.

    kalakal

    August 8, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    @CaseyL: Looking at the County results a lot of the small counties are done. The real biggies like Hamilton, Franklin, Cuyahoga have a long way to go and so far are showing 70%+ No. I wouldn’t panic just yet

  100. 100.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 8, 2023 at 9:27 pm

    @CaseyL: If Ohio is anything like Oregon, the rural, sparsely populated counties get their totals in early, while the big urban centers take longer for complete results.

  101. 101.

    Percysowner

    August 8, 2023 at 9:28 pm

    @CaseyL: ​
     If it helps, a lot of the Yes counties are 80-99% counted while the No Counties are only between 30-60% range. More votes need more time to count.

  102. 102.

    Argiope

    August 8, 2023 at 9:28 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I’m happy too, but also pissed that my tax dollars were used for this and I plan to call my R state Senator tomorrow to mention that one more time. $15 million to reduce our rights and subvert the will of voters? Maybe this supermajority just got a clue by four.  Probably not, but there’s always hope.

  103. 103.

    smith

    August 8, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    @CaseyL: According to NYT, right now statewide 58% of the vote is in. However, in Cuyahoga County (Cleveland) only 35% has been counted, and in Hamilton (Cincinnati) only 33%. There are most likely still a fair number of No votes to be counted.

  104. 104.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    @kalakal: ​

    @Villago Delenda Est: ​
    Thanks! The count I’m following is on Poltico’s site, which does not show how many votes in each county are yet to be counted. I’m very relieved to hear most of the yet-uncounted votes are in Democratic strongholds.

    @smith: ​

    @Percysowner: ​
    ETA to thank you, too! I should go over to the NYT tracker.

  105. 105.

    kalakal

    August 8, 2023 at 9:32 pm

    @CaseyL: Basically most of the uncounted votes are in Cleveland, Columbus, Cincinatti, they’re almost certainly going to be No by a wide margin. I expect the No vote to gain as the night goes on

  106. 106.

    Bupalos

    August 8, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    It’s a pro-choice win yes…but that’s considerably underselling it.

  107. 107.

    Sure Lurkalot

    August 8, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    @Baud: Did they hire fucking Les Moonves?

  108. 108.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:

    There was one “neck and neck” – like 43/42 and they all went with that. But there were two real polls where NO was ahead by 20.

  109. 109.

    Jeffro

    August 8, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    @Redshift: we are going to dash Smilin’ Glenn’s hopes on the rocks of DEMOCRACY

  110. 110.

    Soprano2

    August 8, 2023 at 9:36 pm

    @Kathleen: The R’s here wanted to do this but their attempt this year fell apart. Maybe this result will make them reconsider. 🤣🤣

  111. 111.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 8, 2023 at 9:38 pm

    @Kay:

    The fine American political media tradition of only paying attention to the polls that say Democrats are in trouble.  Got it.

  112. 112.

    hueyplong

    August 8, 2023 at 9:39 pm

    Was sure I’d see that someone had posted “The measure can still pass if Pence has the courage.”

  113. 113.

    Mousebumples

    August 8, 2023 at 9:39 pm

    jordan (@JordanUhl) posted at 8:04 PM on Tue, Aug 08, 2023:

    Issue 1 KO’d https://t.co/Hk8jJCMCPS

    (https://twitter.com/JordanUhl/status/1689080060446208000?t=OdY21D73XFSMZCNudvhE1A&s=03)

    Includes a meme made out of a still from the Montgomery Chair Throw Down.

    Congrats, Ohioans!

  114. 114.

    Soprano2

    August 8, 2023 at 9:40 pm

    @Kay: I agree, that’s revolting, and also probably not true. If they wanted it to pass they would have voted for it regardless of when the election was held. It’s Democrats who defeated it!

  115. 115.

    Mike in NC

    August 8, 2023 at 9:40 pm

    Always good to hear of a win for the good guys. A few more days left in the work week to hope that Fat Bastard has a bunch of setbacks coming his way.

  116. 116.

    Splitting Image

    August 8, 2023 at 9:41 pm

    A pat on the back for Ohio voters for a job well done.

  117. 117.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 9:42 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ahhhh!

  118. 118.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    @Soprano2:

    “In a remarkable show of generosity, Republican men allowed the ladies to win one”  – Anderson Cooper

  119. 119.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 8, 2023 at 9:44 pm

    @Mike in NC: He is in the process of testing Judge Chutkan’s patience right now.  This is inadvisable, his hacks have probably told him so, but he’s a stubborn fuckin’ three year old.

  120. 120.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 9:46 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot: All the evening shows have covered the election on MSNBC – including celebratory interviews. Alex Wagner lead with it. Chris Hayes finished his show with it – when the AP called it.

  121. 121.

    Villago Delenda Est

    August 8, 2023 at 9:51 pm

    @CaseyL: The sewer that is Tiger Beat on the Potomac can be always be assumed to spin/frame everything to make things look better for the AFP that is true in reality.  Hence their failure to break down the voting returns by counties to show just how lopsided this thing is going to be.

  122. 122.

    Soprano2

    August 8, 2023 at 9:53 pm

    I’m at the ballgame, and they put in new field lights this summer. I wish I could post a video of them, because they’re so cool! They have lights that can change color, they “play” them when our players hit a home run. I didn’t know such a thing existed. They’re designed to fight light pollution, because they point down instead of out.

  123. 123.

    Fake Irishman

    August 8, 2023 at 9:54 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est:

    Politico does break down the counties. Just touch the county in the map and it will give you the totals and the amount of estimated vote that’s in.

  124. 124.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 9:56 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Polls haven’t been accurate since 2016. Only TIFG trusts the polls – as long as he’s leading. If not, they’re Fake 🙄

  125. 125.

    Sure Lurkalot

    August 8, 2023 at 9:57 pm

    @Jackie: I’m watching Alex Wagner and it was a half hour of Trump, 8 or so minutes of the Ohio election before they moved on to DeSantis. Can’t wait to see the sign off story.

    Oh, interview of Trump supporter calling for civil war. Now back to DeSantis. Pence! Tim Miller! Drink!

    Wonder why Joe Biden’s good news economic message isn’t resounding? I just have no idea!

  126. 126.

    RedDirtGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 10:00 pm

    @Suzanne: thrilled about the result. Visceral repulsion response to the term curb-stomping.

  127. 127.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 10:00 pm

    @Mousebumples:

    😂🤣😂🤣😂🤭🤭

  128. 128.

    Scout211

    August 8, 2023 at 10:01 pm

    [Oops. Lost my post for a minute.]

    I am letting myself feel positive tonight.

    And this poll is making me feel hopeful. (Reposted from downstairs)

    A recent poll by CNN/SSRS bodes well, when the choice is left to the voters.

    CNN — 
    Americans’ discontent with the Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade remains as potent as it was a year ago, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS,with a record-high share of the public saying that they’re likely to take a candidate’s position on abortion into consideration when voting.

    A 64% majority of US adults say they disapprove of last year’s Supreme Court ruling that women do not have a constitutional right to an abortion, with half strongly disapproving – an assessment that’s almost entirely unchanged from CNN’s poll last July in the immediate wake of the decision.

  129. 129.

    Jeffro

    August 8, 2023 at 10:02 pm

    @Sure Lurkalot:

    it was a half hour of Trump, 8 or so minutes of the Ohio election before they moved on to DeSantis. Can’t wait to see the sign off story.

    Oh, interview of Trump supporter calling for civil war. Now back to DeSantis. Pence! Tim Miller! Drink!

    Wonder why Joe Biden’s good news economic message isn’t resounding? I just have no idea!

    Their insane antics just capture the snooze media for days/weeks/ever, don’t they?

    Meanwhile, good governance gets a *yawn *

    Stay loud, folks: it’s the only way to even come close to pulling even with the amount of attention the GOP clowns get

  130. 130.

    Jeffro

    August 8, 2023 at 10:03 pm

    @Scout211: needs to be the #1 campaign issue from now until whenever, followed closely by the ongoing insurrection.

    (and after that, followed closely by climate change)

    Run on these three and win bigly, Dems!

  131. 131.

    Brachiator

    August 8, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    @TaMara:

    Thanks for this. I saw a CNN story saying that the measure had been defeated, but it didn’t give any numbers. The margin is impressive.

    Good news from Ohio.

  132. 132.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    Has anyone been over to the Dark side to get their reaction?

  133. 133.

    Fake Irishman

    August 8, 2023 at 10:05 pm

    Interesting results:

    traditionally heavily GOP suburban or exurban counties (Medina and Geagua near Cleveland, Delaware near Columbus and even Butler (!) near Cincinnati are voting against issue 1.

    Heavily Catholic rural counties in the west of the state (Kay knows these folks well) are voting in favor of Issue 1 at levels close to what they were supporting trump at.

  134. 134.

    Matt Smith

    August 8, 2023 at 10:06 pm

    Another Ohio native here. I’m not there anymore, but Ohio will always have a piece of my heart and my attention.

    My 73-y-o mother called me to celebrate the good news. She’s always been a Democrat, but never that loud about it. Since Trump came along, she’s in a permanent state of outrage.

  135. 135.

    Frank Wilhoit

    August 8, 2023 at 10:07 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Actually two landslides.  The cities said no pretty much unanimously, and the rural areas said yes pretty much unanimously.  This is not sustainable.

  136. 136.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    August 8, 2023 at 10:08 pm

    @Soprano2: I have seen that in replays from several stadiums.  I watch a lot of MLB channel.

  137. 137.

    JWR

    August 8, 2023 at 10:10 pm

    Great job, Repubs, for holding an election with only one issue to decide! ;

    ETA Here in CA, it’s not uncommon to have three, four, five or even six ballot initiatives to confuse us.

  138. 138.

    Old Dan and Little Ann

    August 8, 2023 at 10:14 pm

    @Jackie: Gutfeld is hyping Musk for saying the leader of a South African group for calling for white genocide.  I had to Google this story.  About a week old.  Maybe a repeat.

  139. 139.

    Ohio Mom

    August 8, 2023 at 10:17 pm

    @Jackie: The Cincinnati Enquirer’s right wing commentators are taunting us sensible folks with, “You’re not going to like it when an amendment you don’t like passes by one vote!” So: nonsensical and vindictive, right on brand.

  140. 140.

    Dan B

    August 8, 2023 at 10:17 pm

    @Mel:  That number is amazing for the home county of the Taft family.  78% no!

  141. 141.

    Jeffro

    August 8, 2023 at 10:19 pm

    @Jackie: it’s story #3 on Fox News dot com, which is surprising.

    They probably can’t make up their minds how to spin it.

  142. 142.

    Dan B

    August 8, 2023 at 10:21 pm

    @Almost Retired:  In 1850 Cincinnati was the third largest city in the country – hogs was the reason.  There are lots of great old buildings.

  143. 143.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    @Fake Irishman:

    The NE part of the state is back though- that’s good for Sherrod. They don’t much like religious fundamentalists in Cleveland :)

  144. 144.

    Geminid

    August 8, 2023 at 10:22 pm

    This is wonderful news. I just wish debbie was here celebrating with us. I still miss her, and wonder what happened.

  145. 145.

    Dan B

    August 8, 2023 at 10:27 pm

    @Soprano2:  LED’s do amazing things with 1/4 the power.  And there’s room for improvement.

  146. 146.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 10:29 pm

    @Ohio Mom: I just watched a very joyful Katie Harris of Red, Wine and Blue celebrating on Alex Wagner’s show. I think she may have been enjoying the “🍷” part of her organization 😁 Not that I’m criticizing! I toasted her with my 🍷!

  147. 147.

    rikyrah

    August 8, 2023 at 10:29 pm

    Go Ohio!🤗🤗🤗🤗

  148. 148.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 10:29 pm

    David Weigel
    @daveweigel
    1h
    One of several “YES” ads that warned of children getting gender surgery w/o parental consent if it failed (bc failure makes a reprodutive rights amendment passage in November more likely)

    It is so insane how they keep repeating this lie. It’s exactly what they tried in Michigan. Identical.

  149. 149.

    Ohio Mom

    August 8, 2023 at 10:30 pm

    @Geminid: Me too.

  150. 150.

    rikyrah

    August 8, 2023 at 10:30 pm

     

    A little-d for democracy victory🤗🤗🤗

  151. 151.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    August 8, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    @Kay: …they refuse to acknowlege that women have political power.

    May it be their doom.

  152. 152.

    Dan B

    August 8, 2023 at 10:32 pm

    @Fake Irishman:  Medina County, the county where I was raised, voting no?!?!  There were two Goldwater for president groups in Wadsworth, population 10K.  One was very conservative and the other was Birchers and Klan.  They loathed each other.

  153. 153.

    Spadizzly

    August 8, 2023 at 10:34 pm

    @Dan B:  Fun fact:  Cincinnati and Kharkiv are sister cities!

  154. 154.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    August 8, 2023 at 10:35 pm

    @Ohio Mom:

    It’s cute they think that’s some kind of gotcha. I’m willing to take my chances and continue to leave that decision in the hands of the voters. It’s worked just fine for the last 111 years.

    @Geminid:

    Me too! Hope she’s doing fine wherever she is.

    @Kay:

    I just wish these people would vote like this for Dems for state-wide office. Of course there’s still the awful statehouse. Hopefully, sooner than later, an initiative can be put on the ballot for an independent redistricting commission to unfuck Ohio’s maps

  155. 155.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 10:35 pm

    @Kay: They’ll try it 48 more times and then maybe give up.

    Or start over again.🤦🏼‍♀️

  156. 156.

    mrmoshpotato

    August 8, 2023 at 10:39 pm

    Woo hoo!  🖕🖕🖕😭😭😭 Ohio Rethuglicans!

  157. 157.

    Eolirin

    August 8, 2023 at 10:40 pm

    @Jeffro: Also gun control.

  158. 158.

    Ohio Mom

    August 8, 2023 at 10:42 pm

    @Mousebumples: That is a good meme! Gave me good chuckle.

  159. 159.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    August 8, 2023 at 10:46 pm

    @Kay:

    I know a full-time older co-worker who bought into that shit at work. Nothing I said about that crap being a distraction mattered to her. I tried to make it as a clear as possible to her; the Ohio GOP is trying to place restrictions on you and me, NOT themselves

    She also doesn’t trust the union and usually votes the opposite of what it recommends 🙄

  160. 160.

    Eolirin

    August 8, 2023 at 10:47 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): I think the union needs to come out against drinking bleach.

  161. 161.

    Jay

    August 8, 2023 at 10:51 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Tell her about Brown.

    $175k for driver’s by 2025.

    Let her know Amazon is hiring at minimum wage

    They have lots of positions available, (Amazon). Only 10 hours a day,  5 days a week, (minimum), one half hour break, no pee breaks, no coffee or smoke breaks,  7 days a week if the Corp deems it needed.

    Sounds like a good fit for her.

  162. 162.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 8, 2023 at 10:55 pm

    @Mousebumples: Glad to see Ohioan brought out the folding chairs!

  163. 163.

    JWR

    August 8, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    @Eolirin: They should also come out against shoving LEDs up their bungholes, or swallowing light bulbs. Or having Covid parties, among other deadly games.

    ETA edited for clarity.

  164. 164.

    Geminid

    August 8, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    @Eolirin: I think Democrats plan to center abortion rights, gun safety and support for public education this election.

    The Republican House of Delegates tried to repeal 5 of the 6 gun safety laws Democrats passed in 2020. The Senate killed the repeal bills.

    Interestingly, the Republicans wouldn’t put the 15 weak abortion restriction on the floor for a vote. They explained that the Senate would kill it anyway, but that consideration did not stop them on the gun bills or other similarly stupid legislation. Some of their Delegates might have told leadership, “We can vote yes but if we do, we aren’t gonna be here next year.”

  165. 165.

    Hoppie

    August 8, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: My dad was a student, my Mom worked at a non-profit  there. They met when he volunteered as a broke student for a paid research project.

  166. 166.

    rikyrah

    August 8, 2023 at 10:59 pm

    Another interview with the chair from Montgomery!😂😂😁😁

     

    https://vm.tiktok.com/ZT8L7Bt1A/

  167. 167.

    Fake Irishman

    August 8, 2023 at 11:01 pm

    @Kay:

    Indeed! Those numbers from Ashtabula, Trumbull, Portage and Mahoning are lovely.

    (Cuyahoga native here, folks just moved away after 45 years… to Wisconsin)

  168. 168.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 8, 2023 at 11:03 pm

    @Soprano2: You also get LED lights for your home that do the same thing. Fun for parties.

  169. 169.

    Kent

    August 8, 2023 at 11:04 pm

    More than anyone else on the planet, Dobbs was the turd laid by Trump.  It was decided in 2022 but by HIS SCOTUS.

    If Democrat’s can run on that they are incompetent.

  170. 170.

    Fake Irishman

    August 8, 2023 at 11:05 pm

    @Kay:

    Yeah, Clevelanders are generally pragmatic Catholics, mainline Protestants and Jews. My district had Rosh Hashsanah and Yom Kippur off because the school board realized sometime in the 1970s that about 25-50 percent of the student body wasn’t showing up.

  171. 171.

    Kent

    August 8, 2023 at 11:06 pm

    @Geminid:Interestingly, the Republicans wouldn’t put the 15 weak abortion restriction on the floor for a vote. They explained that the Senate would kill it anyway, but that consideration did not stop them on the gun bills or other similarly stupid legislation. Some of their Delegates might have told leadership, “We can vote yes but if we do, we aren’t gonna be here next year.”

    As I recall, it was a 15 week CEILING and would have done nothing to supersede any stricter bans passed by any states.

    So basically a blue state ONLY measure.

  172. 172.

    Fake Irishman

    August 8, 2023 at 11:08 pm

    @Dan B:

    Yes, that Medina county.
    I grew up in the east burbs of Cleveland in the 1980s and 1990s. Little Fires Everywhere was an incredible nostalgia trip for me, even though my nearby suburb was definitely a few notches below Shaker Heights in the hierarchy.

  173. 173.

    JWR

    August 8, 2023 at 11:20 pm

    Teri Kanefield has a brand new post:

    Trump’s Social Media Postings
    August 8, 2023

    This is a midweek blog post to answer the questions I’ve been getting about Trump’s social media posts.

    It is unedited and not proofread. I am traveling with limited time and Internet access. Please read it for the content.

  174. 174.

    hitchhiker

    August 8, 2023 at 11:23 pm

    @Scout211:

    A 64% majority of US adults say they disapprove of last year’s Supreme Court ruling that women do not have a constitutional right to an abortion, with half strongly disapproving – an assessment that’s almost entirely unchanged from CNN’s poll last July in the immediate wake of the decision.

    The Rs who used abortion rights as a “culture war issue” thought all along that it was not important to anybody except the people who rend their garments performatively over the idea of murdered babies. They enjoyed manipulating those people, and they counted on “pro life” rhetoric to bring out voters.

    What they didn’t see coming was that once the right to choose was gone, their pet issue moved out of silly-season-culture-war and directly into our bedrooms. And it turns out people are not going to just get over it. I heard a Republican strategist guy on television the other day saying that “they can’t stay mad forever.”

    He still doesn’t know what planet he’s on.

  175. 175.

    jonas

    August 8, 2023 at 11:27 pm

    Boy howdy. Didn’t just go down to defeat, but 60/40? Damn. I guess the thing I’m most enthused about is that the last-minute bullshit reframing of the amendment as a “force your kids to get sex changes” gambit utterly failed. This has to have a lot of Republican activists pulling at their collars going “Gnoohyyygh!”

  176. 176.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 8, 2023 at 11:28 pm

    @hitchhiker: I and many others are in full Irish Alzheimer’s mode — where you forget everything except your grudges.

  177. 177.

    JWR

    August 8, 2023 at 11:32 pm

    More from Teri Kanefield’s latest post. This part was fun to read! ;)

    See what the DOJ did? On the surface, they were saying, “Look at Trump’s post. This is why it’s super important that we have an order protecting sensitive grand jury materials.

    But really they were saying this: “This is what we are dealing with, Your Honor. An unhinged nut.” But they did it in the cool, collected voice of the adult in the room dealing with a manbaby.

  178. 178.

    Ruckus

    August 8, 2023 at 11:37 pm

    OK I put this in the prior post as I had it open when I came back to my computer. But it may be more appropriate here.

    I lived/worked in OH for 11 yrs. In Franklin County. It wasn’t the most liberal state ever, it wasn’t as bad as it could be. The bigger cities could pull it out. Could. I never once held my breath for really good in OH. It wasn’t near as restricted in the big cities but I do remember the last election I voted in the rethuglican governor race Bob Taft – rethuglican, won and was governor when I skedaddled. Not a bad place, not a great place, I’d give it a neutral, at least in the big cities. OH has had a lot of dem governors over the years but I wouldn’t call them extremely liberal, more like left of center at best and then only in the cities.

    One thing I didn’t put in the last post, in my last national election we had a number of precincts combined into one polling place and only one machine in place of 3. I stood in line for, if I remember correctly, 5 hrs. Some left because they had to go to work. I figured when I got to work if anyone gave me crap I would loudly tell them where to stick it, and no the sun don’t shine there. But no one did. They might have seen the steam still coming out of my ears.

  179. 179.

    JWR

    August 8, 2023 at 11:49 pm

    @hitchhiker:

    What they didn’t see coming was that once the right to choose was gone, their pet issue moved out of silly-season-culture-war and directly into our bedrooms.

    And even after Dobbs, some of them were arguing about the 10 year old who’d been raped, saying that “no, she didn’t have to cross state lines to get an abortion because we could’ve treated her here.” But you couldn’t, could you? I mean, that would break the law you guys just passed, right? These clowns didn’t have a clue about the  protections offered in Roe, instead assuming that Roe only protected infanticide or something.

  180. 180.

    SuzieC

    August 8, 2023 at 11:52 pm

    @rikyrah: From an Ohioan thank you rikyrah!  I enjoyed your thread about the Montgomery boat brawl more than anything I have ever seen on BJ, almost.

  181. 181.

    BruceFromOhio

    August 9, 2023 at 12:24 am

    @Raoul Paste: I got one of those! Thank you, much appreciated.

    On the way into my polling place, there was a lone “Vote Yes!” person extolling MrsFromOhio and I to Vote Yes. “Absolutely not” was my reply as we walked by. “You’re going to be sorry!” was the retort. “You are entitled to your opinion, as am I” was my over-the-shoulder closing argument. On the way out, a canvasser was collecting signatures for a $15-an-hour minimum wage ballot initiative just a dozen steps from the “Vote Yes!” person.

    Irony, pull up a chair and make yourself comfortable.

  182. 182.

    2liberal

    August 9, 2023 at 12:27 am

    @OGLiberal: wish I could say and the same but I’m a Mets fan.  Mets games/seasons consist of 96% angst.

     

    I’m a red sox fan. Tell me about it.

  183. 183.

    JWR

    August 9, 2023 at 12:28 am

    Remembering something one of you recently said,

    Roe WAS the compromise, you ninnies!

    ETA that okay, you didn’t say the “you ninnies” part. That’s all on me. ;)

  184. 184.

    JWR

    August 9, 2023 at 12:57 am

    Take a load off, Fani. We can wait a few more days.

    Fulton County district attorney is likely to present her case against Trump to grand jury next week

    … Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is expected to spend two days presenting her case before a grand jury next week.

    Willis could seek several indictments as she eyes a sweeping racketeering case that could cast Trump and several of his associates as operating as a criminal enterprise in their endeavors to upend Georgia’s election results.

  185. 185.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 9, 2023 at 1:08 am

    Kind of on topic, because Supreme Court, it would seem yet another story Clarence Thomas’s salary enhancements is about to drop:

    Mark Paoletta @MarkPaoletta

    1/Leftwing billionaire-funded attack dog @ProPublica is going to run another smear job on Justice Thomas & travel w/ one of friends who had no business before court. ProPublica is obsessed w/ Thomas b/c its funders want to destroy Court b/c of abortion/affirmative action rulings.

  186. 186.

    West of the Rockies

    August 9, 2023 at 1:08 am

    @JWR:

    It’s sure being a big build up… weren’t there reports yesterday of a big police presence at the court (making newsies suggest the indictment would surely drop).

  187. 187.

    West of the Rockies

    August 9, 2023 at 1:10 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    I wish someone would smack him and Virginia on the melon with a folding chair.

  188. 188.

    SFBayAreaGal

    August 9, 2023 at 1:16 am

    @2liberal: Ha I’m a SF Giants fan

  189. 189.

    JWR

    August 9, 2023 at 1:29 am

    @West of the Rockies:

    Yeah, like it was imminent or something. ;) But I sure hope she nails him with this one, as he wouldn’t be able to pardon himself out of this state charge. There may be another state case that I’m forgetting. Was it the hush money affair?

  190. 190.

    Mel

    August 9, 2023 at 2:08 am

    @Dan B: City neighborhoods like Northside, Price Hill, the Incline District, Oakley, Over-the-Rhine, and Clifton are diverse, have lots of population density and a relatively high percentage of Democrats. The Hamilton County suburbs tend to be much more right-wing, but there are emerging pockets of sanity in Loveland, etc. because of arts and entertainment districts drawing new residents.

  191. 191.

    prostratedragon

    August 9, 2023 at 2:26 am

    Wonder if Mr. Blades would lend this tune to Randy Rainbow. I keep hearing “asks were aspirational asks” to its rhythm.

    “Ollie’s Doo Wop”

  192. 192.

    JWR

    August 9, 2023 at 2:26 am

    Can’t wait to see this.

    Aaron Rupar
    @atrupar 10h
    Trump claims that 2,000 Mules will be used as evidence in his upcoming criminal trial to show the election was stolen from him
    Aug 8, 2023 · 7:26 PM UTC

  193. 193.

    Yutsano

    August 9, 2023 at 3:07 am

    *ahem*

    O-H-!

  194. 194.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:08 am

    @Mel: Way late to thread but I was pleasantly shocked that in final vote totals Butler County was 50% yes/50% no! BUTLER EFFING COUNTY!

  195. 195.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:10 am

    @Mel: We are VERY blue! (-: On the Blue Ohio Zoom I was on the numbers guy was saying Yes/No margins in Clermont and Warren Counties were not as big as the Vance/Ryan margins.

  196. 196.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:15 am

    @Almost Retired: It absolutely is. Cincy/Hamilton County have been blue strongholds for the past several elections. Cincy has Democratic mayor, 8 out of 9 City Council members and Sherriff,  All 3 Hamilton County Commissioners are women, 2 of whom are AA. Cincy is one of the 3 “Big C’s”, along with Columbus and Cleveland. The Chair of the Hamilton County Dems is a Black woman, and she is just awesome.

  197. 197.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:18 am

    @Soprano2: I sure hope you’re right!

  198. 198.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:22 am

    @Jackie: David Pepper, founder of Blue Ohio, was on with Chris Hayes when the official results came out.

  199. 199.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:25 am

    @Sister Golden Bear: My dad used to say that all the time! He was only half kidding. He carried a life long grudge against Doris Day about something that happened like in 1952.

  200. 200.

    Kathleen

    August 9, 2023 at 3:29 am

    @Mel: I live in the Incline District/Price Hill! And yes. Price Hill has been recognized as the most diverse neighborhood in the city. I absolutely love it here.

  201. 201.

    Msb

    August 9, 2023 at 3:56 am

    Thank God (and Ohio voters).

    To the R who said, “They can’t stay mad forever”: sonny, I’ve been mad since 1979, and just getting madder.

  202. 202.

    Montanareddog

    August 9, 2023 at 4:31 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

     

    it would seem yet another story Clarence Thomas’s salary enhancements is about to drop:

    You mean his performance-related bonus?

  203. 203.

    brantl

    August 9, 2023 at 7:27 am

    @Kay:  “They will die on this hill.”

    If we’re lucky, yes!

  204. 204.

    Manyakitty

    August 9, 2023 at 11:12 am

    @Yutsano: I O!

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