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You are here: Home / Politics / Political Action / Ohio Issue 1 Results: Polls Closing at 7:30 pm

Ohio Issue 1 Results: Polls Closing at 7:30 pm

by WaterGirl|  August 8, 20237:21 pm| 96 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Action, Politics, This Fight Is For Everything

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Ohio Voters had their last chance to cast their votes today – hopefully NO on Ohio Issue 1 – with polls closing at 7:30 pm Eastern time.

GOOD REASONS TO VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1.  I can’t see a single reason to vote Yes unless you’re an authoritarian prick.

Here’s what it does:

  • Require 60% of voters to pass a new constitutional amendment, instead of a simple majority of 50% plus one.
  • Require citizens who want to place an amendment on the ballot to collect signatures from at least 5% of voters from the last gubernatorial election in all 88 counties, instead of the current 44.
  • Eliminate a 10-day cure period that allows citizens to replace any signatures deemed faulty by the secretary of state’s office.

Come on, Ohio!   Results:

Columbus Dispatch

Ohio Live Results

Ohio Secretary of State live results

Are there folks on twitter to follow who particularly know Ohio?

 

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  1. 1.

    Elizabelle

    August 8, 2023 at 7:24 pm

    I think, and hope, that Ohio voters are going to make you proud of them. Even in summer.  They’ve been paying attention to what’s been going on in their state, and in other states.

  2. 2.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 7:28 pm

    Come on, Ohio!

    Do one noble thing in your rotten, miserable life!

  3. 3.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:30 pm

    @Baud: Trying out your new campaign slogan?

  4. 4.

    bbleh

    August 8, 2023 at 7:32 pm

    @WaterGirl: got the masochist vote, for sure!

  5. 5.

    RaflW

    August 8, 2023 at 7:34 pm

    “Ohio. Yes, you hate our diner politics, but at least we aren’t responsible for Mike Pence.”

  6. 6.

    trollhattan

    August 8, 2023 at 7:35 pm

    Chrissie Hynde. Ohio gave us Chrissie Hynde. And Devo. No Republican shenanigans can take them from us.

  7. 7.

    Scout211

    August 8, 2023 at 7:37 pm

    Fingers crossed for a resounding NO on Issue 1.

    A recent poll by CNN/SSRS bodes well, when the choice is left to the voters.

    CNN — 
    Americans’ discontent with the Supreme Court’s decision overturning Roe v. Wade remains as potent as it was a year ago, according to a new CNN poll conducted by SSRS,with a record-high share of the public saying that they’re likely to take a candidate’s position on abortion into consideration when voting.

    A 64% majority of US adults say they disapprove of last year’s Supreme Court ruling that women do not have a constitutional right to an abortion, with half strongly disapproving – an assessment that’s almost entirely unchanged from CNN’s poll last July in the immediate wake of the decision.

  8. 8.

    BlueGuitarist

    August 8, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    Good start

    Decision desk hq reporting huge no vote in Franklin County (Columbus) (86%!) not much else in yet

    https://decisiondeskhq.com/election-results-ohio-issue-1-and-the-mississippi-primary/

  9. 9.

    RevRick

    August 8, 2023 at 7:39 pm

    85% no, including results from a rural southern county

  10. 10.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:40 pm

    Is there a site for results that would be  better than the Columbus Dispatch?

  11. 11.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 7:40 pm

    I hope Issue 1 fails by 61% or more!🤞🏻🤞🏻

  12. 12.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:42 pm

    @RevRick: The Columbus Dispatch site lets you look by county, but I know nothing about counties in OH.

  13. 13.

    JPL

    August 8, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @RevRick: wow

  14. 14.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @Jackie: That would be sweet.

  15. 15.

    dmsilev

    August 8, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    How long, roughly, should we expect it to be before there’s a reasonable number of votes reporting? A couple of hours?

  16. 16.

    RSA

    August 8, 2023 at 7:45 pm

    I found this piece in the Ohio Capital Journal to give a helpful liberal overview of the state constitutional issues.

    But for the sake of intellectual exercise during America’s 247th birthday week, let’s take a look today at how our Constitutional system was framed, the priorities of good governance and balance the “Father of the Constitution” James Madison envisioned, the history of the Ohio Constitution, and the dangers of a legislative body usurping power from the people and rigging the system against voters.

    In this short column space, we are not going to adjudicate the philosophical arguments around federalism — though it’s safe to say Madison and Thomas Jefferson preferred limiting governmental powers and emphasizing freedom and power of the people to hold government accountable. Nor will we pick apart the foundational hypocrisies or the intense amount of American history where clashes between theory and practice led to bitter and bloody confrontation, political and judicial negotiation, and constitutional adaptation on myriad issues.

    What we are going to do is focus on a few fundamentals behind our constitutional republic as its chief architect Madison saw them, the expansion of direct democracy over our Ohio Constitution throughout our history of statehood, and the incredible insult to these American ideals when politicians attack representation in government to render themselves unaccountable.

  17. 17.

    Brit in Chicago

    August 8, 2023 at 7:46 pm

    @WaterGirl: The NYT has it too, but I’ve no reason to think they’re any better or worse—they seem to be keeping pace with one another.

    ETA, no the Dispatch is a little quicker.

  18. 18.

    Bupalos

    August 8, 2023 at 7:46 pm

    @trollhattan: Ha! My wife is friends with one of the devo dude’s brothers. Total class clown. Which you can still tell, now in his 50’s.

  19. 19.

    PrairieLogic

    August 8, 2023 at 7:47 pm

    https://liveresults.ohiosos.gov/

  20. 20.

    hells littlest angel

    August 8, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    I’m certain that No will kick Yes’s ass. I’m hopeful that this issue wakes up enough Ohioans to turn the state blue again. Okay, purple.

     
    Issue 1
    An estimated 12.6 percent of votes have been counted.

    Votes received and percentages of total vote

    Response
    Votes
    Pct.

    Yes
    111,710
    28.4

    No
    281,694
    71.6

  21. 21.

    Sister Golden Bear

    August 8, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    @RevRick: Only 10% of the votes counted and per Kay, she expected the initial results would be heavily No. (IIRC because Democrats have gotten many of their voters to vote by mail.)

    So still gotta wait and see.

  22. 22.

    Scout211

    August 8, 2023 at 7:48 pm

    @WaterGirl: I don’t know if this is better but here’s the SOS

    Ohio Secretary of State live results

  23. 23.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 7:49 pm

    Here’s my bellweather w/30% in :

    Wood

    Candidates
    Votes
    Pct.

    No
    6,252
    70.74%

    Yes
    2,586
    29.26%

  24. 24.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 7:51 pm

    @WaterGirl: Poetic Justice 😁

  25. 25.

    Marleedog

    August 8, 2023 at 7:51 pm

    https://twitter.com/i/lists/706696973345107968https://twitter.com/i/lists/706696973345107968

     

     

    @WaterGirl: Here is a link to the evil twitter for Josh Marshall’s “Numbers Peeps” with pretty much up to the minute reporting and analysis at a fine granular level.  Here we will know when Dave Wasserman has seen enough

  26. 26.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 7:51 pm

    75% Trump county in 22:

    Williams

    Candidates
    Votes
    Pct.

    No
    1,089
    51.25%

    Yes
    1,036
    48.75%

  27. 27.

    RevRick

    August 8, 2023 at 7:52 pm

    They’re projecting 3 million votes cast.

  28. 28.

    cintibud

    August 8, 2023 at 7:53 pm

    Looking at the Dispatch results I see the 3 counties surrounding Cincinnati and the county directly to the East of Dayton are trending red, which in this case is good – NO votes leading. Those four counties are repugs strongholds so that’s a good sign.

     

    ETA – clarity

  29. 29.

    MobiusKlein

    August 8, 2023 at 7:53 pm

    Starting off at 70% No seems better than I expected by a lot.
    Any bets on the final numbers?

  30. 30.

    Brit in Chicago

    August 8, 2023 at 7:53 pm

    The margin is going down as votes come in, but still at 70% to 30% with 18% of the vote in. There’s something I need to write, and I don’t want to turn on MSNBC but may be forced to….

  31. 31.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:53 pm

    @PrairieLogic: That looks good, but am I missing where it tells us what % of the vote has already been counted?

  32. 32.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:54 pm

    @hells littlest angel: Which site is that from?

  33. 33.

    cintibud

    August 8, 2023 at 7:54 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s above the map and to the right. 18% at this point

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:55 pm

    @Kay: Oh, interesting!

  35. 35.

    hells littlest angel

    August 8, 2023 at 7:55 pm

    @WaterGirl: Washington Post

  36. 36.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 7:56 pm

    @Kay: I so hope you’re right! I don’t want a “barely defeated” – I want Issue 1 crushed with NOs!🤞🏻🤞🏻

  37. 37.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:56 pm

    @Marleedog: It hadn’t occurred to me that Dave Wasserman would be a go-to guy for Ohio!

  38. 38.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 7:57 pm

    Dave is calling it now?

    I’ve seen enough: in a major victory for the pro-choice side, Ohio Issue 1 (a measure to raise the threshold to pass a state constitutional amendment to 60%) fails.

    — Dave Wasserman (@Redistrict) August 8, 2023

  39. 39.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 7:58 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Woohoo!

  40. 40.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 7:58 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s good.

    This is a 72% Trump county in 2020, with 40% in:

    Defiance

    Candidates
    Votes
    Pct.

    No
    1,835
    53.70%

    Yes
    1,582
    46.30%

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    August 8, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    @WaterGirl: Way to go, Ohio!

    You’re far smarter than the Knesset, for starters.

  42. 42.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    No can do Twitter, but Politico has a running tally, and also has the %age of precencts/voted counted.​

    Count has now slipped a bit;  30.1% for the change, 69.9% against the change.

  43. 43.

    Brit in Chicago

    August 8, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    Does anyone know when the counting of the early ballots takes place? After all today’s in-person votes are counted? Or sooner?

  44. 44.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 7:59 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s a rout. They got killed. The whole northern tier of the state is NO.

  45. 45.

    Suzanne

    August 8, 2023 at 8:00 pm

    @WaterGirl: He’s calling it already?! Awwwww dip!

  46. 46.

    Marleedog

    August 8, 2023 at 8:00 pm

     

    A good portent.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    August 8, 2023 at 8:00 pm

    @Kay:

    I’m glad they wasted some money.

  48. 48.

    Scout211

    August 8, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    @WaterGirl: On the SOS site, click the drop-down little blue button “view by” that opens up the count by county. It shows the percentage in by county.

  49. 49.

    JPL

    August 8, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    @WaterGirl: Nice!!!

  50. 50.

    MobiusKlein

    August 8, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    What is up with Putnam County, OH. It is at 75% Yes, highest I could find.

  51. 51.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @WaterGirl: That is good news. The GOP should realize that they aren’t going to get everything – even in a trending red state. You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

  52. 52.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @Marleedog: ​
     

    Really? Seriously?? Fantastic news – the Politico site says only 20% of the count is in. Does that mean Wasserman doesn’t think there are enough votes left to overtake the No vote?

  53. 53.

    dkinPa

    August 8, 2023 at 8:03 pm

    Well, that was fast!  Woo Hoo!  Congrats to Ohio!

  54. 54.

    tobie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:04 pm

    I’m just tuning in and Wasserman has already called it. Yippee!

  55. 55.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    @cain:  Our newest rotating tag.

    You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

  56. 56.

    dmsilev

    August 8, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    @WaterGirl: That was fast. Or maybe he just has a dinner reservation he needs to get to.

  57. 57.

    Bupalos

    August 8, 2023 at 8:05 pm

    Don’t give up Ohio!!

    I think we’ll win this with some notable margin. A lot of folks here I think don’t understand Ohio’s political culture. Which isn’t great overall, granted. But I think this one is going to find our sweet spot. This is literally “permanently turn over your power to someone else, some politicians, who promise to wield it for Gillead.” That might sell in some states, but I think that’s emphatically not Ohio.

    Might help that I’ve been in Cleveland a bunch lately, and it really seems like the tide there has turned, and it’s growing again.

    I have hopes that the R’s saw their high water mark in 2020 at +8.

  58. 58.

    Alison Rose

    August 8, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: I have come to trust his “I’ve seen enough” tweets, even if I don’t know how he can say so this early. Huzzah!

  59. 59.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    It’s been nothing but good news so far this week. Between the Trump indictments, Ohio votes, and the Alabama Riverboat Uprising and a possible Georgia indictment – things are looking good for the Republic.

    May our right wing enemies step knee deep in pudding and get squishy shoes.

  60. 60.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 8:06 pm

    @Baud: I hope they wasted a whole lot of money.  I wouldn’t trust any entity that got behind Issue 1 – ever again.  I hope this costs the people who supported it.

  61. 61.

    Percysowner

    August 8, 2023 at 8:07 pm

     

    @MobiusKlein:Putnum went 82% for Trump.

  62. 62.

    Eolirin

    August 8, 2023 at 8:07 pm

    @CaseyL: Wasserman looks at how the vote is breaking relative to historical patterns based on precinct level data. The No vote is outperforming in areas where Yes would have had the most support by enough that there’s no way for the numbers to work.

  63. 63.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 8:07 pm

    @dmsilev: That would have to be some damn good food to blow your reputation for a meal!

  64. 64.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 8:07 pm

    @Baud:

    I’m glad the anti woke, anti trans, anti womens autonomy campaign was a giant, expensive flop. Again.

    It still amazes me they looked at the 2022 results and STILL they all convinced themselves that normies find these insane panics they gin up compelling. They doubled down, Baud! Based on advice from Christopher Rufo, Elon Musk and Andrew Sullivan! These are the people whohave their fingers on the pulse of the country? ! In what fucking universe?

  65. 65.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:08 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    The more money they spend on these things – the less money they have for votes. They’ll have to ask their money donors even more money – soon all this shit is going to cost the 1% a lot of money with nothing to show for it.

  66. 66.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    @MobiusKlein: I read that as highest NO. Yikes.  I wouldn’t want to live in that county.

  67. 67.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:09 pm

    @WaterGirl: wooot! My first rotating tag!! :D

  68. 68.

    Kay

    August 8, 2023 at 8:10 pm

    @Bupalos:

    I agree about Cleveland growing again. I always liked Cleveland and I’m so happy for them. I like how humble and self deprecating they are, how they laugh at themselves.

  69. 69.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:10 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s probably minority women – they probably don’t get laid much. The self hate must be just awful.

  70. 70.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 8:11 pm

    @Eolirin: ​
    Ah: I was looking at the county-by-county breakdowns, and there were places where Yes was ahead. Just not by enough to overcome the No votes in other precincts.
    Maybe I can start breathing now.​

  71. 71.

    Eolirin

    August 8, 2023 at 8:11 pm

    @cain: I’m beginning to wonder how much of politicial spending is actually a money laundering scheme.

    Most of that money is being spent on consultants and ad buys and who knows what relationships the people who get that money have with the people giving it.

  72. 72.

    TS

    August 8, 2023 at 8:12 pm

    There is a little democracy left in the USA – great work by the NO team.

    Perhaps the antics of TIFG is opening some eyes – plus the continual reminders of the attack of January 6.

  73. 73.

    CaseyL

    August 8, 2023 at 8:14 pm

    @Eolirin: ​
    It’s absolutely a grift – alas, also on the Democratic side, for way too many election cycles (Mark Penn, anyone?), but I think more Democratic campaigns are getting away from campaigns built on consultants’ opinions. I think we’ve seen enough candidates who didn’t use the same old, same old consultant companies win without them.

  74. 74.

    David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch

    August 8, 2023 at 8:15 pm

    LANDSLIDE

  75. 75.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:19 pm

    @Eolirin: In the old days, it was all about govt money going into private interest hands – now it is about russian money and voter money going into private interest hands.

  76. 76.

    cain

    August 8, 2023 at 8:20 pm

    @David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:

    Flawless victory – Fatality!

  77. 77.

    Bupalos

    August 8, 2023 at 8:20 pm

    @WaterGirl: That is good news. The GOP should realize that they aren’t going to get everything – even in a trending red state. You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.

    Is there any evidence that Ohio is still trending red, and not the reverse? I don’t want to oversell this particular result, but people REALLY need to remember that history doesn’t move in a single direction forever, that things change, circumstances change, people change. The past isn’t the present and the present isn’t the future.

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    August 8, 2023 at 8:23 pm

    @Bupalos: I would love to find out that the pendulum is swinging back in the right direction.

  79. 79.

    zhena gogolia

    August 8, 2023 at 8:24 pm

    Great news!

  80. 80.

    Brit in Chicago

    August 8, 2023 at 8:25 pm

    @Bupalos: Oh I so hope you’re right, but my guess is that it isn’t a general trend away from the Republicans but is a sign—yet another sign, especially for the slow learners—of the importance of the abortion issue. I’m so glad the Repubs put themselves so firmly on the wrong side of that one.

  81. 81.

    Eolirin

    August 8, 2023 at 8:26 pm

    @Bupalos: Cleveland starting to grow again is a positive sign at least. I think we’ll need a few more election cycles to really know what’s going on more broadly.

  82. 82.

    Bupalos

    August 8, 2023 at 8:33 pm

    For the apples to apples I can do at this point, it looks like this is running 15-20 points behind Trump 2020. I’m hoping for a 60-40 shitstomping.

  83. 83.

    RevRick

    August 8, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    In 2020, Biden won only 7 of the 88 counties in Ohio.

  84. 84.

    Bill Arnold

    August 8, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    @Bupalos:

    This is literally “permanently turn over your power to someone else, some politicians, who promise to wield it for Gillead.”

    Yep. An attempt to grab power from Ohio’s voters, by a gerrymandered legislature, funded by out of state money.

  85. 85.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    @TS: I don’t think this has much to do with TIFG. Issue 1 is about keeping a simple majority vote for all state issues, referendums, etc., rather than requiring a super majority of 60+ to win.

  86. 86.

    Dan B

    August 8, 2023 at 8:36 pm

    @WaterGirl:  Three Catholic Dioceses gave half a million to Yes on 1.  Good job wasting that money!

  87. 87.

    Bupalos

    August 8, 2023 at 8:37 pm

    @Eolirin: For sure. All I’m saying is don’t be so sure the trend is still in place or that it’s somehow carved in stone. We only know these things in the rearview mirror.

    Also the “I’m not really a Democrat, let’s just be friends!” senate campaign everyone was falling all over themselves to compliment because “well, that’s Ohio…” might have been a total fucking mistake and actually completely wrong for Ohio.

  88. 88.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 8:38 pm

    @Bupalos: When Gym Jordan gets trounced out of office I’ll believe Ohio is shifting Blue.

  89. 89.

    Mike S

    August 8, 2023 at 8:43 pm

    I think more people live on my block than live in a lot of these counties.

  90. 90.

    different-church-lady

    August 8, 2023 at 8:46 pm

    @Scout211: I don’t know how that’s possible when so many people who don’t want us to think that have told us it’s not true.

  91. 91.

    Geminid

    August 8, 2023 at 8:47 pm

    @Dan B: I wonder how many of their parishoners voted “No.”

    And whether they’ll tell the priests at confession.

  92. 92.

    Argiope

    August 8, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    @Jackie: His district is gerrymandered to a fare-the-well.  That’s why this vote is so important to us: our maps are insurmountable so if we can’t do some ballot initiatives we are well and truly fucked, here.

  93. 93.

    RevRick

    August 8, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    The rural counties are voting yes, but the suburbs around Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Akron, Cleveland and Toledo are still voting no. That’s the difference.

  94. 94.

    Freemark

    August 8, 2023 at 9:34 pm

    About 57-43 right now (9:30 pm) but it looks like the vast majority of rural vote has been counted but less than half of urban/suburban vote. Hope it goes back above 60%. Those fuckers need smacked down hard!

  95. 95.

    Jackie

    August 8, 2023 at 9:41 pm

    @Freemark: I agree! They wanted to change it to a Super Majority – it’s only fitting they get their Super Majority – as LOSERS!!! 😂

  96. 96.

    Ruckus

    August 8, 2023 at 11:26 pm

    I lived/worked in OH for 11 yrs. In Franklin County. It wasn’t the most liberal state ever, it wasn’t as bad as it could be. The bigger cities could pull it out. Could. I never once held my breath for really good in OH. It wasn’t near as restricted in the big cities but I do remember the last election I voted in the rethuglican governor race Bob Taft – rethuglican, won and was governor when I skedaddled. Not a bad place, not a great place, I’d give it a neutral, at least in the big cities. OH has had a lot of dem governors over the years but I wouldn’t call them extremely liberal, more like left of center at best and then only in the cities.

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