Ohio Voters had their last chance to cast their votes today – hopefully NO on Ohio Issue 1 – with polls closing at 7:30 pm Eastern time.
GOOD REASONS TO VOTE NO ON ISSUE 1. I can’t see a single reason to vote Yes unless you’re an authoritarian prick.
Here’s what it does:
- Require 60% of voters to pass a new constitutional amendment, instead of a simple majority of 50% plus one.
- Require citizens who want to place an amendment on the ballot to collect signatures from at least 5% of voters from the last gubernatorial election in all 88 counties, instead of the current 44.
- Eliminate a 10-day cure period that allows citizens to replace any signatures deemed faulty by the secretary of state’s office.
Come on, Ohio! Results:
Ohio Secretary of State live results
Are there folks on twitter to follow who particularly know Ohio?
Elizabelle
I think, and hope, that Ohio voters are going to make you proud of them. Even in summer. They’ve been paying attention to what’s been going on in their state, and in other states.
Baud
Do one noble thing in your rotten, miserable life!
WaterGirl
@Baud: Trying out your new campaign slogan?
bbleh
@WaterGirl: got the masochist vote, for sure!
RaflW
“Ohio. Yes, you hate our diner politics, but at least we aren’t responsible for Mike Pence.”
trollhattan
Chrissie Hynde. Ohio gave us Chrissie Hynde. And Devo. No Republican shenanigans can take them from us.
Scout211
Fingers crossed for a resounding NO on Issue 1.
A recent poll by CNN/SSRS bodes well, when the choice is left to the voters.
BlueGuitarist
Good start
Decision desk hq reporting huge no vote in Franklin County (Columbus) (86%!) not much else in yet
https://decisiondeskhq.com/election-results-ohio-issue-1-and-the-mississippi-primary/
RevRick
85% no, including results from a rural southern county
WaterGirl
Is there a site for results that would be better than the Columbus Dispatch?
Jackie
I hope Issue 1 fails by 61% or more!🤞🏻🤞🏻
WaterGirl
@RevRick: The Columbus Dispatch site lets you look by county, but I know nothing about counties in OH.
JPL
@RevRick: wow
WaterGirl
@Jackie: That would be sweet.
dmsilev
How long, roughly, should we expect it to be before there’s a reasonable number of votes reporting? A couple of hours?
RSA
I found this piece in the Ohio Capital Journal to give a helpful liberal overview of the state constitutional issues.
Brit in Chicago
@WaterGirl: The NYT has it too, but I’ve no reason to think they’re any better or worse—they seem to be keeping pace with one another.
ETA, no the Dispatch is a little quicker.
Bupalos
@trollhattan: Ha! My wife is friends with one of the devo dude’s brothers. Total class clown. Which you can still tell, now in his 50’s.
PrairieLogic
https://liveresults.ohiosos.gov/
hells littlest angel
I’m certain that No will kick Yes’s ass. I’m hopeful that this issue wakes up enough Ohioans to turn the state blue again. Okay, purple.
Issue 1
An estimated 12.6 percent of votes have been counted.
Votes received and percentages of total vote
Response
Votes
Pct.
Yes
111,710
28.4
No
281,694
71.6
Sister Golden Bear
@RevRick: Only 10% of the votes counted and per Kay, she expected the initial results would be heavily No. (IIRC because Democrats have gotten many of their voters to vote by mail.)
So still gotta wait and see.
Scout211
@WaterGirl: I don’t know if this is better but here’s the SOS
Ohio Secretary of State live results
Kay
Here’s my bellweather w/30% in :
Wood
Candidates
Votes
Pct.
No
6,252
70.74%
Yes
2,586
29.26%
Jackie
@WaterGirl: Poetic Justice 😁
Marleedog
https://twitter.com/i/lists/706696973345107968https://twitter.com/i/lists/706696973345107968
@WaterGirl: Here is a link to the evil twitter for Josh Marshall’s “Numbers Peeps” with pretty much up to the minute reporting and analysis at a fine granular level. Here we will know when Dave Wasserman has seen enough
Kay
75% Trump county in 22:
Williams
Candidates
Votes
Pct.
No
1,089
51.25%
Yes
1,036
48.75%
RevRick
They’re projecting 3 million votes cast.
cintibud
Looking at the Dispatch results I see the 3 counties surrounding Cincinnati and the county directly to the East of Dayton are trending red, which in this case is good – NO votes leading. Those four counties are repugs strongholds so that’s a good sign.
ETA – clarity
MobiusKlein
Starting off at 70% No seems better than I expected by a lot.
Any bets on the final numbers?
Brit in Chicago
The margin is going down as votes come in, but still at 70% to 30% with 18% of the vote in. There’s something I need to write, and I don’t want to turn on MSNBC but may be forced to….
WaterGirl
@PrairieLogic: That looks good, but am I missing where it tells us what % of the vote has already been counted?
WaterGirl
@hells littlest angel: Which site is that from?
cintibud
@WaterGirl: It’s above the map and to the right. 18% at this point
WaterGirl
@Kay: Oh, interesting!
hells littlest angel
@WaterGirl: Washington Post
Jackie
@Kay: I so hope you’re right! I don’t want a “barely defeated” – I want Issue 1 crushed with NOs!🤞🏻🤞🏻
WaterGirl
@Marleedog: It hadn’t occurred to me that Dave Wasserman would be a go-to guy for Ohio!
WaterGirl
Dave is calling it now?
Baud
@WaterGirl:
Woohoo!
Kay
@WaterGirl:
It’s good.
This is a 72% Trump county in 2020, with 40% in:
Defiance
Candidates
Votes
Pct.
No
1,835
53.70%
Yes
1,582
46.30%
trollhattan
@WaterGirl: Way to go, Ohio!
You’re far smarter than the Knesset, for starters.
CaseyL
No can do Twitter, but Politico has a running tally, and also has the %age of precencts/voted counted.
Count has now slipped a bit; 30.1% for the change, 69.9% against the change.
Brit in Chicago
Does anyone know when the counting of the early ballots takes place? After all today’s in-person votes are counted? Or sooner?
Kay
@WaterGirl:
It’s a rout. They got killed. The whole northern tier of the state is NO.
Suzanne
@WaterGirl: He’s calling it already?! Awwwww dip!
Marleedog
A good portent.
Baud
@Kay:
I’m glad they wasted some money.
Scout211
@WaterGirl: On the SOS site, click the drop-down little blue button “view by” that opens up the count by county. It shows the percentage in by county.
JPL
@WaterGirl: Nice!!!
MobiusKlein
What is up with Putnam County, OH. It is at 75% Yes, highest I could find.
cain
@WaterGirl: That is good news. The GOP should realize that they aren’t going to get everything – even in a trending red state. You come for women, you’re gonna get your ass kicked.
CaseyL
@Marleedog:
Really? Seriously?? Fantastic news – the Politico site says only 20% of the count is in. Does that mean Wasserman doesn’t think there are enough votes left to overtake the No vote?
dkinPa
Well, that was fast! Woo Hoo! Congrats to Ohio!
tobie
I’m just tuning in and Wasserman has already called it. Yippee!
WaterGirl
@cain: Our newest rotating tag.
dmsilev
@WaterGirl: That was fast. Or maybe he just has a dinner reservation he needs to get to.
Bupalos
Don’t give up Ohio!!
I think we’ll win this with some notable margin. A lot of folks here I think don’t understand Ohio’s political culture. Which isn’t great overall, granted. But I think this one is going to find our sweet spot. This is literally “permanently turn over your power to someone else, some politicians, who promise to wield it for Gillead.” That might sell in some states, but I think that’s emphatically not Ohio.
Might help that I’ve been in Cleveland a bunch lately, and it really seems like the tide there has turned, and it’s growing again.
I have hopes that the R’s saw their high water mark in 2020 at +8.
Alison Rose
@WaterGirl: I have come to trust his “I’ve seen enough” tweets, even if I don’t know how he can say so this early. Huzzah!
cain
It’s been nothing but good news so far this week. Between the Trump indictments, Ohio votes, and the Alabama Riverboat Uprising and a possible Georgia indictment – things are looking good for the Republic.
May our right wing enemies step knee deep in pudding and get squishy shoes.
WaterGirl
@Baud: I hope they wasted a whole lot of money. I wouldn’t trust any entity that got behind Issue 1 – ever again. I hope this costs the people who supported it.
Percysowner
@MobiusKlein:Putnum went 82% for Trump.
Eolirin
@CaseyL: Wasserman looks at how the vote is breaking relative to historical patterns based on precinct level data. The No vote is outperforming in areas where Yes would have had the most support by enough that there’s no way for the numbers to work.
WaterGirl
@dmsilev: That would have to be some damn good food to blow your reputation for a meal!
Kay
@Baud:
I’m glad the anti woke, anti trans, anti womens autonomy campaign was a giant, expensive flop. Again.
It still amazes me they looked at the 2022 results and STILL they all convinced themselves that normies find these insane panics they gin up compelling. They doubled down, Baud! Based on advice from Christopher Rufo, Elon Musk and Andrew Sullivan! These are the people whohave their fingers on the pulse of the country? ! In what fucking universe?
cain
@WaterGirl:
The more money they spend on these things – the less money they have for votes. They’ll have to ask their money donors even more money – soon all this shit is going to cost the 1% a lot of money with nothing to show for it.
WaterGirl
@MobiusKlein: I read that as highest NO. Yikes. I wouldn’t want to live in that county.
cain
@WaterGirl: wooot! My first rotating tag!! :D
Kay
@Bupalos:
I agree about Cleveland growing again. I always liked Cleveland and I’m so happy for them. I like how humble and self deprecating they are, how they laugh at themselves.
cain
@WaterGirl: It’s probably minority women – they probably don’t get laid much. The self hate must be just awful.
CaseyL
@Eolirin:
Ah: I was looking at the county-by-county breakdowns, and there were places where Yes was ahead. Just not by enough to overcome the No votes in other precincts.
Maybe I can start breathing now.
Eolirin
@cain: I’m beginning to wonder how much of politicial spending is actually a money laundering scheme.
Most of that money is being spent on consultants and ad buys and who knows what relationships the people who get that money have with the people giving it.
TS
There is a little democracy left in the USA – great work by the NO team.
Perhaps the antics of TIFG is opening some eyes – plus the continual reminders of the attack of January 6.
CaseyL
@Eolirin:
It’s absolutely a grift – alas, also on the Democratic side, for way too many election cycles (Mark Penn, anyone?), but I think more Democratic campaigns are getting away from campaigns built on consultants’ opinions. I think we’ve seen enough candidates who didn’t use the same old, same old consultant companies win without them.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
LANDSLIDE
cain
@Eolirin: In the old days, it was all about govt money going into private interest hands – now it is about russian money and voter money going into private interest hands.
cain
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
Flawless victory – Fatality!
Bupalos
Is there any evidence that Ohio is still trending red, and not the reverse? I don’t want to oversell this particular result, but people REALLY need to remember that history doesn’t move in a single direction forever, that things change, circumstances change, people change. The past isn’t the present and the present isn’t the future.
WaterGirl
@Bupalos: I would love to find out that the pendulum is swinging back in the right direction.
zhena gogolia
Great news!
Brit in Chicago
@Bupalos: Oh I so hope you’re right, but my guess is that it isn’t a general trend away from the Republicans but is a sign—yet another sign, especially for the slow learners—of the importance of the abortion issue. I’m so glad the Repubs put themselves so firmly on the wrong side of that one.
Eolirin
@Bupalos: Cleveland starting to grow again is a positive sign at least. I think we’ll need a few more election cycles to really know what’s going on more broadly.
Bupalos
For the apples to apples I can do at this point, it looks like this is running 15-20 points behind Trump 2020. I’m hoping for a 60-40 shitstomping.
RevRick
In 2020, Biden won only 7 of the 88 counties in Ohio.
Bill Arnold
@Bupalos:
Yep. An attempt to grab power from Ohio’s voters, by a gerrymandered legislature, funded by out of state money.
Jackie
@TS: I don’t think this has much to do with TIFG. Issue 1 is about keeping a simple majority vote for all state issues, referendums, etc., rather than requiring a super majority of 60+ to win.
Dan B
@WaterGirl: Three Catholic Dioceses gave half a million to Yes on 1. Good job wasting that money!
Bupalos
@Eolirin: For sure. All I’m saying is don’t be so sure the trend is still in place or that it’s somehow carved in stone. We only know these things in the rearview mirror.
Also the “I’m not really a Democrat, let’s just be friends!” senate campaign everyone was falling all over themselves to compliment because “well, that’s Ohio…” might have been a total fucking mistake and actually completely wrong for Ohio.
Jackie
@Bupalos: When Gym Jordan gets trounced out of office I’ll believe Ohio is shifting Blue.
Mike S
I think more people live on my block than live in a lot of these counties.
different-church-lady
@Scout211: I don’t know how that’s possible when so many people who don’t want us to think that have told us it’s not true.
Geminid
@Dan B: I wonder how many of their parishoners voted “No.”
And whether they’ll tell the priests at confession.
Argiope
@Jackie: His district is gerrymandered to a fare-the-well. That’s why this vote is so important to us: our maps are insurmountable so if we can’t do some ballot initiatives we are well and truly fucked, here.
RevRick
The rural counties are voting yes, but the suburbs around Cincinnati, Dayton, Columbus, Akron, Cleveland and Toledo are still voting no. That’s the difference.
Freemark
About 57-43 right now (9:30 pm) but it looks like the vast majority of rural vote has been counted but less than half of urban/suburban vote. Hope it goes back above 60%. Those fuckers need smacked down hard!
Jackie
@Freemark: I agree! They wanted to change it to a Super Majority – it’s only fitting they get their Super Majority – as LOSERS!!! 😂
Ruckus
I lived/worked in OH for 11 yrs. In Franklin County. It wasn’t the most liberal state ever, it wasn’t as bad as it could be. The bigger cities could pull it out. Could. I never once held my breath for really good in OH. It wasn’t near as restricted in the big cities but I do remember the last election I voted in the rethuglican governor race Bob Taft – rethuglican, won and was governor when I skedaddled. Not a bad place, not a great place, I’d give it a neutral, at least in the big cities. OH has had a lot of dem governors over the years but I wouldn’t call them extremely liberal, more like left of center at best and then only in the cities.