I have loved her since she came into view during the debacle in the Tennessee house. This is how you do it:
There is a movement afoot in Tennessee. Now I'm running for US Senate because our work doesn't stop here. Join us. pic.twitter.com/6XKFLuRfkc
— Rep. Gloria Johnson (@VoteGloriaJ) September 5, 2023
Happening this afternoon: Enrique Tarrio sentencing and it looks like Ken Paxton is soon gonna find out.
Proud Boys leader Enrique Tarrio, convicted of seditious conspiracy for his role in orchestrating & organizing J6, will be sentenced this afternoon. Prosecutors are seeking 33 years claiming his influence was used to “organize & execute the conspiracy.”
pic.twitter.com/g6I7QaAEtV— Marcus Flowers (@Marcus4Georgia) September 5, 2023
The trial of Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton just got underway.
Evidence that’s come to light suggests Paxton is guilty of a number of crimes—as corrupt as they come. We’ll see whether his fellow Republicans put truth and accountability ahead of political loyalty.
— Julián Castro (@JulianCastro) September 5, 2023
This is a totally open thread
Frankensteinbeck
They always put political loyalty ahead.
However, this time it’s not Democrat vs. Republican. It’s Republican vs. Republican. They’re happy to eat their own as long as they don’t see it as giving Democrats a win.
rikyrah
I don’t really care about her ‘ chances’. She’s a good candidate, and there’s always one contest where you give because it’s a good candidate.
SpaceUnit
@Frankensteinbeck:
Yeah, that line is comedy gold.
Edmund dantes
What doesn’t make sense is how has he been able to stall the federal indictment for I think SEC stuff tied up for 6 years + now.
it’s amazing how you can make the wheels of Justice grind super slow if you have the power.
OzarkHillbilly
repeat from previous thread:
I scored a 20 out of 24.
SiubhanDuinne
I have loved and admired Gloria Johnson since I first heard of her.
I have loathed and detested Marsha Blackburn since I first heard of her.
And like rikyrah, I don’t much care about Gloria’s “chances.” If enough voters in Tennessee and enough supporters around the country are willing to stand up for her, we can easily change the arithmetic.
Shalimar
I don’t get the Paxton corruption thing. His mistress’ boss isn’t even all that wealthy. There are tens of thousands of that guy in Texas. Why run the AG’s office like a subsidiary of his company? It doesn’t make any sense. If you’re going to sell out, do it to someone huge, like Clarence Thomas did.
rikyrah
@OzarkHillbilly:
Still 23 out of 24…
LOL
SiubhanDuinne
@OzarkHillbilly:
I only got 18/20, but then I’m actually too old for a few of those things!
persistentillusion
@OzarkHillbilly: 20 out of 24 as well, fellow Old.
Shalimar
@OzarkHillbilly: 22 out of 24. Never had a MySpace or AOL account. Apparently 54 is old now.
edited: i used AOL access at family’s houses but never had an account. had internet from the old Mindspring out of Atlanta starting in 1994.
frosty
@OzarkHillbilly: 22. No AOL or MySpace. Atari is a stretch because I’m pretty sure one of those games I played in a bar was made by Atari.
frosty
@SiubhanDuinne: Too old! That’s a switch.
jackmac
Texas Republicans putting truth and accountability ahead of political loyalty?
The next time will be the first.
Gravenstone
@OzarkHillbilly: 23/24 *sigh
Shalimar
@frosty: I got an Atari for Christmas in 1978 and didn’t even get to play it the first day because we had a party and the Attorney General of Alabama was hogging it.
OzarkHillbilly
I did open a mySpace account, but afterwards I never went back. Not at all sure what motivated me to open it in the first place. I have never been on facebook.
bbleh
@OzarkHillbilly: 21. Blackjack. Or legal drinking. Or something.
OzarkHillbilly
@frosty: I never got the attraction for computer games. I only ever tried 2 of them and quickly lost interest in both.
Yarrow
Good for her for running.
Mr. Bemused Senior
21 of 24. Hey, I still write checks, though not as many these days.
jackmac
@OzarkHillbilly: 23 of 24. Never had a MySpace account. Still use a paper map (sometimes) because I like to explore when I’m on the road and GPS maps just do not cut it. Also, nuns at my Catholic elementary school made damn sure we all learned cursive. It’s a lost art these days.
zhena gogolia
@OzarkHillbilly: 22 for me.
zhena gogolia
@SiubhanDuinne: Me too, like making a mixtape or playing Atari.
zhena gogolia
@frosty: Oh, right, I played some game in a bar. so 23 out of 24
zhena gogolia
@OzarkHillbilly: Oops, I’m so old I can’t count. I got 17 out of 24, but like SD, it’s mainly because I’m too old for some of that.
OzarkHillbilly
@Mr. Bemused Senior: I wrote one just a couple weeks ago! The last check I had. Haven’t bothered ordering a new set of them. Don’t know that I ever will.
@jackmac: I will never trust a GPS. I can tell some stories*. Still have all my old topos and DeLormes** and my compasses. I’m an analog man living in a digital world.
*most of which were from it’s early years. I know the technology has improved alot over the years but I still like finding my way with map and compass.
**DeLormes are great for first trips into new areas, getting the lay of the land and all that, if I’m going to get serious tho, give me a topo
bbleh
@Shalimar: I feel the same way about TIFG. Here he is the fkin President, and all he can do is stuff like nickel-and-dime the Secret Service by charging them rack rate when he stays at his hotels. What’s that add up to, maybe a couple mil at most? At least Jared knew how to do it properly.
Alison Rose
@OzarkHillbilly: Perfect 24, baby. And at least around this place, I ain’t even that old. I kinda feel like anyone who grew up in the 80s would say “yes” to all of these. So maybe it’s not “old” so much as “of this certain generation”.
OzarkHillbilly
@zhena gogolia:
I’m getting the feeling that that is true of most of us. For instance, I remember Columbia House ads/leaflets w/etf, but for the life of me I can’t remember for certain what they sold because I never bought anything from them. I want to say music but….
Alison Rose
I got an email earlier today from Gavin Newsom asking for donations to Gloria Johnson’s campaign. I don’t have the money to spare but I was glad to see it because he probably has a bigger email list than she does and hopefully it’ll pull in a nice chunk of change for her.
frosty
@OzarkHillbilly: Asteroids and Battlezone and a pocket full of quarters in the Mount Royal Tavern. I also got hooked on an early version of Need For Speed on a PC (loved the sound of the Dodge Viper running through the gears) but never did anything on an xBox or Playstation. That was for my sons.
What four things did you miss out on?
OzarkHillbilly
@Alison Rose: As always, age is relative. Me? I remember the first dirt.
Betty Cracker
@jackmac: You’re right that in-vehicle GPS maps suck for exploration. The Google map app on the laptop is a fine exploration tool, IMO, but not the measly little screen in the car. It can get you from point A to point B if you know where you’re going (though not always via the preferred route), but it’s useless for figuring out where you want to go. Gimme a Rand McNally for that!
Mr. Bemused Senior
@OzarkHillbilly: I traveled a lot for work in the early 2000s and getting a Garmin was a huge improvement over Google maps. Not perfect, but way better.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@frosty: my arcade favorite was Lunar Lander.
OzarkHillbilly
@frosty: I never played an Atari, I never made a mixed tape or owned a Walkman, and I never ordered anything from Colombia House. Like most everybody else here, I remember them, I just never partook.
Alison Rose
@OzarkHillbilly: LOLOL!!!
SiubhanDuinne
@SiubhanDuinne:
Mistyped. I meant 18/24.
frosty
@OzarkHillbilly: Columbia sold record albums. They had a great signup deal where four or five albums were almost free. I did that and immediately cancelled.
SiubhanDuinne
@zhena gogolia:
Yep, those were two on my “never have I ever” list as well.
bjacques
22 of 24, No AOL or Columbia House. I’d like to recover my MySpace account but haven’t a clue how.
OzarkHillbilly
@Mr. Bemused Senior: My wife once got lost in downtown Chicago and her GPS (I think a Garmin) was of no help to her. She called me at home (thank dawg I was) and I navigated her out of there using mapquest if iirc. (hadn’t been to Chicago in over 20 years so my memory was useless) Sometimes, the big picture is an absolute need.
skerry
@OzarkHillbilly: I never ordered from Columbia House either, but I did work for a company doing keypunch processing of all the orders.
OzarkHillbilly
@frosty: Thanx, for some reason or other all my memories from my wildly misspent youth are a little foggy.
hueyplong
@jackmac: They act only when the accountability in question coincides with short term party loyalty
Jay
@Shalimar:
You dance with the millionaire that bought you,……….
Jackie
@Frankensteinbeck: They were fine with Paxton until he tried to make the State pay for his misdeeds. Arrogance too far.
Alison Rose
@frosty: I got CDs from them for a while, and like almost everyone else, I’m positive I never paid what I owed.
OzarkHillbilly
@skerry: Key punch??? I remember keypunch! Not that I ever had anything to do with it but it’s what my Uncle Alex did for a living. I remember going to his office and being in awe of the brave new world he lived in.
jonas
@frosty: IIRC, you had to commit to buying so many records or cd’s out of their catalog over the next three years or something in order to get the 10 free albums. It wasn’t terribly easy to just cancel after that, although many tried. The hack I discovered was to tell them I was moving out of the country — which was actually true (study abroad for college). They couldn’t ship overseas, so they had to cancel the subscription.
Karen S.
@OzarkHillbilly:
I got 22 out of 24. No MySpace account nor did I order from Columbia House.
One of the few phone numbers I know from memory these days is the landline number of my childhood home. I’m sure that’s largely because my dad still lives there and he doesn’t have a cell phone. When I was a child, we had two rotary dial phones—one on the wall in the kitchen and one (a heavy black one) in my parents’ room.
skerry
@OzarkHillbilly: Yeah, I feel like I need to give myself a point for confessing my keypunch background.
jonas
@OzarkHillbilly: 22/24 — never had a MySpace or AOL account, but the rest — oh yeah.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@OzarkHillbilly:
24/24
p.a.
20 of 24. Atari made arcade games. Never owned a home unit. The ‘no’s’ were AOL, Columbia House, MySpace, and, ummmm, I forget because I’m old.
Here’s another sign:
My folks owned cars w manual chokes, but upgraded a few years before I was old enough to drive them.
Falcon coupe and wagon, bought used. Model years ’61/’62-ish. Kept until abt 1972.
Scout211
@rikyrah: Me too, still 23/24. Same as the last thread. LOL
Mr. Bemused Senior
@skerry: 9 edge, face down.
Doug R
Scott MacFarlane is at the Tarrio sentencing, should drop soon at the end of this thread:
https://twitter.com/MacFarlaneNews/status/1699117373469659345
prostratedragon
@OzarkHillbilly: If I may ask, do you remember where she was trying to go? Most of downtown is a grid, but there can be issues, upper and lower, changing names or directions, and such. And I’ve heard the kind of GPS nightmare tales that make me wonder if she was dry when she called you.
skerry
@Mr. Bemused Senior:
The Last Bug
by Lou Ellen Davis
Alison Rose
@Doug R: “My client is a misguided patriot”
Yeah, and Hannibal just had an eating disorder
ETA: OMFG his mom says he’s “had to endure very difficult moments” shut the fuck up
Jackie
@Yarrow: I agree! If the majority of Independents and “non MAGA republicans” vote for her, she may just squeak out a win! Most Tennesseans were disgusted with the State House shenanigans. And, they’re back at it by censoring Justin Jones from speaking on the Floor re gun legislation.
AM in NC
@Edmund dantes: That is my big question. How on Earth has he delayed the federal charges for 6 YEARS?
Sister Golden Bear
Proud Boys, Nazi, etc. threaten violence at Pride events, drag queen story hours, drag shows.
Small town Iowa mayor unilaterally bans Pride contingent from Labor Day parade, citing safety concerns.
Narrator voice: There were no known threats.
Expect to see more of this.
HumboldtBlue
@OzarkHillbilly:
I never ordered from Columbia, so 23.
bbleh
@skerry: @OzarkHillbilly: Ha! I did the program for my senior thesis on an IBM370 (just upgraded from the 360, ooo!) on keypunch cards.
Yarrow
I just looked and apparently Columbia House is still a thing but now they do DVDs.
japa21
@OzarkHillbilly:
I had 22 (and still have my aol account). I’m old and I’m proud.
ETA: After reading some of the comments, I realized I did order from Columbia House once. So 23 – no MySpace.
Matt McIrvin
@OzarkHillbilly: The only thing on that list I never did was order from Columbia House.
I only barely had a MySpace account and it was for professional reasons.
dm
@OzarkHillbilly: 21 out of 24, but only because I was too old for AOL and MySpace.
Steeplejack
I got 21½. No on Atari and MySpace, can’t remember about Columbia House.
Mr. Bemused Senior
@skerry: something a a bit more up-to-date
[ETA only a bit more that is]
OzarkHillbilly
All I can say is she was trying to get the fuck out of there, which made it easy for me: “Get her to a major highway.” (she has a lousy sense of direction and congested traffic, especially in a strange town, is unnerving for her) It was a long time ago, almost 20 years now. I do remember she was on surface roads.
Not sure what you mean by this but she doesn’t drink. If you are asking if it was raining, I truly have no idea.
Alison Rose
Lying sack of shit
japa21
@Alison Rose: I wonder if he really thinks anybody believes him.
frosty
@Karen S.: I remember our landline number even though the family moved out the year I left for college and no one used that number since. I don’t think it’s that unusual.
OzarkHillbilly
@japa21: Hope springs eternal.
Betty
@AM in NC: My understanding is that Main Justice recently took over the case from local federal prosecutors. A possible explanation?
Alison Rose
@japa21: I wouldn’t be able to keep a straight face if I were in the courtroom.
john b
@OzarkHillbilly: 24 of 24. I think I’m the target age for “old” in that survey
Mr. Bemused Senior
@OzarkHillbilly: he has the good sense to listen to his lawyers’ advice. Unlike another defendant I can think of.
Suzanne
Whelp, just finished my student loan application for the new SAVE program. I don’t qualify for public service loan forgiveness, but I certainly can’t complain about the new SAVE plan. Takes my payments from essentially a mortgage payment to a mediocre car payment (except it’s a car I pay off in 2046….not sure how TF that got calculated). And, in an exceptional example of government having their shit together, I was able to just put in my and Mr. Suzanne’s SSNs and it imported all the data from our tax return.
Honestly, fuck the SCOTUS…. but this plan is waaaaaay better for me than the original strategy of $10K in forgiveness. So WTG Biden, Harris, and the Warren/AOC/Bernie crowd for agitating for this and making it happen.
Roger Moore
@Alison Rose:
Fortunately this is not the court’s first time dealing with a lying scumbag defendant. The courts are used to defendants claiming remorse after fighting tooth and nail for an acquittal, and they’ll apply the appropriate 110% discount to those claims.
Steeplejack
@OzarkHillbilly:
I think the reference was to bad GPS instructions leading people into bodies of water.
rikyrah
@Suzanne:
Glad that you are being helped.
prostratedragon
@OzarkHillbilly: Oh! 😆
Yeah, the expressways that envelope downtown are a real spaghetti bowl, and one that changes surprisingly often from new construction.
The “wet” part’s a Lake Michigan/ Chicago River joke. I’ve heard tales of people being led into swamps, cliff edges, and nonexistent bridges by GPS.
Suzanne
@rikyrah: Honestly, the fact that it could just import the info from our tax return was, like, huge. I am used to that damn application being, like, hours of (stupid) effort every year.
persistentillusion
@OzarkHillbilly: The Chicago Loop (downtown is bordered on two sides by the Chicago River and on the third by Lake Michigan. Significant chance of getting wet there in spring, summer, fall. Greater chance of freezing to death in winter. So cold!
Citizen Alan
@OzarkHillbilly: 22 out of 24. Ironically, I wasn’t cool enough for AOL. My first provider was Compuserve! And I was too much of a Luddite for MySpace and only reluctantly ever got on Facebook.
Scout211
Live reporting from BBC News on the Tarrio sentencing.
Shorter Tarrio: “Cry for me” 😭
brendancalling
When the pandemic first hit, I was still a Tennessee resident. Gloria Johnson and the TN Democratic Party helped me get my financial relief. The state GOP was pathetically useless, and I don’t mean that in a cruel way—they don’t believe in government, and the constituent assistants I spoke too had no idea what to do about anything. But the Dems and Gloria specifically came through. She’s also friends w/my pal Jason “Sparky” Sparks, who lost his brother in a road-rage shooting. He’s working w/her on gun control in that insane state.
JCJ
@OzarkHillbilly: that is a strange list. Some transactions still request a check, if planning a long drive a road atlas let’s you see more than a phone screen, and uncurling a phone cord is still done In the hospitals and clinics where I work. Insurance companies require use of a secure fax for Protected Health Information. Perhaps the writer of that list needs to get out more. But yes, I scored 18.
Princess
The most difficult thing about driving in downtown Chicago is if you end up on an underground street without planning to be there. Google isn’t great at differentiating between the above ground and below ground streets.
hueyplong
@Scout211: What a fecal load that is.
It calls to mind the Turturo character in Miller’s Crossing saying to Gabriel Byrne that he’ll just squirt a few and then be let go.
Matt McIrvin
@dm: I got on AOL because I wanted a convenient way to download the software to construct a dialup Internet connection that wasn’t AOL. (In those days, computer operating systems didn’t come with an Internet software stack!) AOL’s trial accounts gave me that.
It’s kind of like the joke about how the main purpose of Microsoft Edge (or Internet Explorer before it) is to download some other web browser.
The MySpace account was actually because I had to fix bugs in a mobile MySpace client. Yes, there was at least one mobile MySpace client.
prostratedragon
Jake and Elwood provide a tour.
Matt McIrvin
@Suzanne: Kind of amazing that the workaround for the Supreme Court’s meddling actually made it better.
Aziz, light!
They left out “Use a slide rule.”
Mine came with a big leather case that I could attach to my belt.
Scout211
Latest from the Tarrio sentencing
Scout211
Judge:
Suzanne
@Matt McIrvin: I want to be clear that this plan works better for my personal financial situation. I am sure that is not the case for everyone. My BIL graduated in 2020 and the original plan was going to be awesome for him — though I’m sure the new plan is also pretty good. We are still waiting to hear about Mr. Suzanne’s PSLF.
I am curious about the 2046 date, tho. I graduated in 2010 and started repaying in 2011, when I got a job. I was making a pittance coming out of the recession and my payments (income-based) were so small that the interest blew up quickly. But the original deal was that you paid for 20 years and then the balance was forgiven. So 2046 is…. more years than I was expecting.
Alison Rose
LOL we stan a sassy judge
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Advocates were pushing for forgiveness, so I’m not sure if it would have been well received if Biden started with this route from the get go.
OzarkHillbilly
@Steeplejack: @prostratedragon: Ah, thanx for the clarification, I wasn’t taking offense, just wasn’t sure and whenever somebody refers to a person being dry my brain takes me to drinking.
“How dry I am…”
How wet I’ll be…
I well know the phenomenon of GPS directing folks into bodies of water. One time my wife kept telling me the road we needed to turn onto was coming up on the left in the bottom of the valley. I knew better as I had been to this location 12 or 15 times before but she insisted the road would be there. It wasn’t there, just the Buffalo River. We drove to the top of the ridgeline and there was the road where I said it would be. I don’t know if the GPS was borked or if it was working off of really old data but I’d been going to that location for almost 20 yrs off and on and there had never been a road in the bottom that I’d seen.
Matt McIrvin
@Baud: And I heard some anecdotes about students blaming Biden for the Supreme Court overturning his loan forgiveness, so it’s a tricky issue to score political points on.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Nothing you can do about idiots.
Kristine
@OzarkHillbilly: 19
Amy
@Alison Rose: Yeah, that’s what I thought. Anyone who was a teenager or above in the 80’s would have done most of these things. 22 of 24 for me. No mixtapes or MySpace. But wasn’t My Space popular in the early 2000’s? You wouldn’t have to be that old to remember that. I still remember usenet and email listservs fondly though.
Alison Rose
@Amy: Yeah, it started in like 2002 I think? I was on it for years. And oh man, did I make a lot of mixtapes (and CDs) in my day.
Suzanne
@Baud: I think this plan is better for people like me (high-balance graduate loans, started repaying with a low salary but had increases mid-career), as well as people who are relatively low-earning. The analysis says that the SAVE plan seems to be less favorable for people like Mr. Suzanne, who started his career earning more than I did but hasn’t had the same kind of jumps.
I want to note that, with a masters’ degree, I was earning (significantly) less than Mr. Suzanne…. who is a public educator in Title 1 schools. Those professions where you make absolute garbage for a few years before you finally get to something approaching financial sanity…. that shit is tough. The student loan system penalizes that.
bbleh
@Baud: isn’t there some way we can get them to generate renewable energy? Like, I dunno, pedaling on thousands of generator bikes for hours in the name of Donald Trump or something?
hueyplong
@bbleh: Unlikely, but they might be willing to dig coal.
CaseyL
@OzarkHillbilly:
A couple of years ago, a friend and I were road tripping on the Olympic Peninsula. We were going to Port Angeles, and I normally know the way just fine if I’m going there from where I live (Seattle). But I had picked my friend up at her house on Whidbey Island, so it was a whole different route.
The Google Maps Lady either missed a turn, or I didn’t hear her, and we got lost. I had the Google Lady reroute us, and she insisted on a route that went through a naval base. Which, of course, you can’t do. She kept saying to make the turn, and I kept yelling at her, “I can’t! It’s not open to civilian traffic!” (My friend was laughing her head off.)
I finally had to backtrack to an intersection 3 miles back the way we came before Google Maps Lady came up with a route we could actually take.
Jay
@prostratedragon:
@OzarkHillbilly:
People following their GPS instructions in Chicago have quite often driven into the lake, the river or the canal.
Alison Rose
22 years for Tarrio
mrmoshpotato
@Scout211: Thanks. Hoping for a multi-year sentence.
Suzanne
@Alison Rose: Oh good, he’ll be old and boring in 22 years.
hueyplong
@Alison Rose: 22 years ought to allow him better to focus on his “regret.”
Scout211
BREAKING: Ex-Proud Boys leader sentenced to 22 years
Enrique Tarrio, the former leader of the right-wing Proud Boys, has been sentenced to 22 years prison for his role in the Capitol riot.
The judge remarked, “Seditious conspiracy is a serious offense… Mr Tarrio was the ultimate leader of that conspiracy.”
ETA: and everyone with the breaking news.
Will he appeal?
Tinare
F around and find out, Enrique.
mrmoshpotato
@Alison Rose:
How’s that for finding out?
🖕⚖️
Alison Rose
GOOD
CaseyL
22 years is much less than the Feds asked for, but a not inconsiderable amount of time. Tarrio’s 39, so he’ll be in his early 60s by the time he gets out.
(Or maybe 60 exactly, if he gets out a couple years early, as I understand is often the case with federal sentences. Provided he behaves himself, which I frankly wouldn’t bet on.)
brendancalling
@Baud: My entire debt was forgiven in the second attempt, and I will walk through fire for Biden as a result.
Baud
@brendancalling:
Good. I believe Republicans plan to make walking through fire a requirement for voting.
OzarkHillbilly
@CaseyL: He will probably get early release if he behaves himself. Don’t know enuf to say how early, just that it is likely.
Jackie
@CaseyL: ANOTHER REASON to keep the GQP out of the WH the next TWO (at least) presidential elections!!! NO pardons for insurrectionists!
Scout211
CNN
Suzanne
@brendancalling: That’s what we’re hoping for Mr. Suzanne. He had worked for three different districts and it was a huuuuuuge PITA to get all his documentation together. He got it postmarked on literally the last day. Fingers crossed.
smith
Isn’t 22 years the highest sentence yet? Its only fitting, then, that TFG and the cabal behind the insurrection should get more. Tarrio, et al., were near the top of the foot soldiers that did the actual thuggery, but they were still just foot soldiers.
Alison Rose
LOL from the NYT
“Your Honor, I’m obviously innocent of this one criminal thing because I was busy doing this other criminal thing!!”
Alison Rose
@smith: Yep. Even longer than Stewart Rhodes.
artem1s
@OzarkHillbilly:
how do you get lost in the loop? it’s the grid-iest of all midwestern cities. no circles or bendy streets. the street numbers are completely uniform. state and madison is zero – your either north, south or west of zero. go too far east and you’re in the lake. it’s literally the only place I know of that you don’t need a map to find your destination as long as you have a good street address and can find east (look for the big body of water)
Jackie
@OzarkHillbilly: Early release should be off the table for traitors to our government.
Elizabelle
22 years for Enrique Tarrio.
We are all smiling. And what a message to Trump and Roger Stone and all the other big fish that (I hope) will be eventually ensnared.
hueyplong
If Biden can get reelected we may finally have bipartisan support for prison reform.
Alison Rose
Anytime I see or read anything about this dude, I think of this TikTok. Still cracks me up.
Burnspbesq
@Edmund dantes:
The securities fraud charges are state charges. The parties have been to the state Supreme Court twice, arguing about venue. There is a trial date early next year.
There’s a federal grand jury investigation ongoing. No indictments yet.
artem1s
@p.a.: remember when the parking brake and release was down below the dash with the other brake? Highbeams too?
Jackie
@Alison Rose: Same thing happened to The Oath Keeper’s head honcho, Rhodes. He wasn’t at the Capitol either, but he got the longest sentence of that group. Being the leader has consequences – which hopefully happens when TIFG is sentenced for J6 and Fulton County.
Elizabelle
If Tarrio and the others were not incels before …
Yarrow
@Alison Rose: That’s hilarious.
Doc Sardonic
Looks like Rep. Scott Perry might be about to go through some things. Appeals court declined to block Jack Smith from going through his phone.
cain
@Gravenstone: 22 here – I think we are all separated by AOL or non-AOL ;)
cain
@OzarkHillbilly: At one point – all the bands were there – so if you were a music lover myspace was pretty good for that.
cain
@zhena gogolia: speaking of mix tapes – I suppose maybe being old is watching High Fidelity or some other John Cusack movie :D
wjca
Obvious research project: collect scores and ages. Graph. I’d bet there is a peak (at a guess, born in the mid-70s), with scores dropping off both older and younger.
cain
@frosty: NFS was awesome – at one point, my brother and I had a head to head race between the General Lee and the Batmobile. NFS v1 continues to be my favorite racing game of all time.
Alison Rose
@Jackie: Yep. To paraphrase the philosopher Spider-Man: With great power comes great accountability, motherfucker.
brendancalling
@Suzanne: PSLF was too spotty and insane for me. I got forgiven through the IBR/forebearance/paying for 20+ years thing. I didn’t expect it all.
Jeffro
@Suzanne: great news! Congrats!
(I’m going to see if there’s a good article I can use to post/tweet/whatever and let more folks know!)
Josie
@Burnspbesq:
Evidently the state charges have also been held up by disagreements about payment for the special prosecutors.
misterpuff
23/24 No MySpace account but went there for new alternative bands, so giving myself a 23.5.
Always had a 7 digit phone number but still remember NYC ads for Murray Hill XXXXX MUX XXXX.
Ma Bell evolution: Old Timey phones with mouthpiece on the wall and wired speaker, Monopoly Phone with art deco handset 30s/40s (Those has metal dial) (still in service in grandparent’s houses when I was a child), Plastic desk phones (plastic dial), Push Button dials and Princess phones 50s/60s,
Picture PhonesAT&T broken up before 2001 ASO, Death of Landlines.Long Distance circuits.
TV with rotary channel changer, Remotes that ran mechanical rotary changer, finally digital remote controls.
Kitchen without a microwave.
Transistor radios.
I can go on and on. Progress can be a beautiful thing.
Elizabelle
@Suzanne: That is wonderful news.
2046, hmmm? We’ll see what a few more Democratic administrations do to that part of the debt.
moops
@OzarkHillbilly:
24 out of 24
Although a perfect score did require me to have been kind of a nerd at an early age.
Jackie
I assume Marc Elias is involved…
Article is linked to the AJC – which requires a paid subscription.
CarolPW
@misterpuff: SHerwood 4-2911. Two long, one short rings on a party line. When out of state calling home, had to specify the number was on the Courtland Exchange.
trollhattan
Then what type of zealot are you? Don’t make us guess.
Elizabelle
@misterpuff: I love looking through old Life and Look magazines.
The wonders of their age. Be connected to your long distance call — while you are on the phone! That was new.
And: remember billing for long distance, and weekend calling and long distance calling cards.
Of course, the misogyny and misogynoir (or just plain no representation at all) is startling, too.
Everyone with a cigarette
ETA: People traveling with airline-branded tote bags. Diana Ross and the Supremes stepping onto the tarmac with luggage that looked like it was designed to carry wigs.
Jackie
@Doc Sardonic: Do you have a link, please? I read reports saying the opposite – but I hope your report is correct!
Ruckus
@OzarkHillbilly:
18
And I believe that I’m still older than you…….
Ken B
Tarrio just got sentenced to 22 years.
Roger Moore
@OzarkHillbilly:
The Feds have fairly limited options for getting out early. There’s no parole, and time off for good behavior is only about 15% of the sentence. 22 years is likely to be at least close to 22 years.
wjca
If Paxton gets removed, he goes from being a big political power to being nothing. Which opens opportunities for other politicians (e.g. those Texas Senators) to increase their own.
moops
…or some future GOP President pardons all of them.
persistentillusion
@Scout211: Tarrio was the leader, not Mango Mussolini? Scoff.
Mike in NC
@Ken B: Maybe Tarrio will get an invite to Mar-A-Lago before he reports to prison. They’ll serve him cold hamberders and fries and stick him with the bill. Same as it always is with Fat Bastard.
Scout211
Yeah, and Roger Stone, too. Scoff. Double scoff.
zhena gogolia
@Alison Rose: That is funny.
moops
If Tarrio is perhaps now willing to flip on certain key actors, like Roger Stone, I’d consider it fair to reduce his sentence.
JPL
@Jackie: Same. The court sent it back to lower court stating that they couldn’t look at all the texts, etc. They apparently will be able to see some, and I hope that’s enough.
hueyplong
@moops: He might have should have considered that plan of action a while back.
Scout211
Update on Spanish Soccer Federation and the Women’s World Cup team: Vilda fired!
Dorothy A. Winsor
19 for me on that old folks quiz. I’m younger than I thought.
satby
@prostratedragon: 😂😂😂
They filmed that (the downtown and Daley Center scenes) starting at 5 am on a Sunday. My ex-husband was working upstairs in the building directly across the street that morning. And you had to really admire the stunt drivers who avoided all the El support pillars while crashing the police cars (carefully staged as it was).
Elizabelle
@Alison Rose: Excellent.
Sure Lurkalot
@Shalimar: @frosty:
I had the exact same results as you but in the interest of comity, I will not divulge that I am 90 years old.
Alison Rose
@Scout211: Hopefully more to come. I want that Rubiales putz gone too.
persistentillusion
@Scout211: We can establish a Scoff Circle. Fun! Right after we re-elect Pres Biden and MVP Harris.
brendancalling
@OzarkHillbilly: 22 out of 24. Back in 2017-2019, I was dating a woman who was a lot younger than me, and she used to call me her Old Man, emphasis on the “old.”
Soprano2
@OzarkHillbilly: I scored 23 of 24!
satby
Ok, I got 23/24. No Myspace acct, though I used to watch/ listen to my nephew’s band there.
lowtechcyclist
@OzarkHillbilly:
This you? ;-)
Alison Rose
@satby: I’ll admit, I wish I could still access mine, because I had a bunch of photos there I’d like to have again. At some point, they changed MySpace from being early FB-ish to just being a music/band site. I remember being able to log in to my account like 5 or so years ago, but there was barely anything left on it, almost all of my photos and posts were gone. Boooooo Tom!
sab
@Dorothy A. Winsor: I am 18 ( at 69). Husband at 72 is 22. Being a luddite brought my score way down.
moops
@hueyplong: That is not his optimal play here. The best strategy is to wait out the 2024 election and see if Trump can get back in power. Then see if he actually gets a pardon. That is a one year served. If the GOP fails to take the White House, then Tarrio suddenly remembers where he hid the burner phone he used to communicate with Roger Stone.
The GOP win is a long shot, but high pay out. The safer bet is a modest reduction in sentence. Less than if he had coughed it up now, but he managed to get 11 years less than the prosecutors asked for already. I doubt he was going to beat that spread by much anyways.
prostratedragon
@satby: I’ll bet that was interesting to watch. As you know, the shoot for that movie was a big deal around town, clear out to the south suburbs.
persistentillusion
@prostratedragon: A friend of mine (grew up outsie Chicago) was one of the extras on the police boat on the River.
whatsleft
@OzarkHillbilly: 21/24 for me! Thank doG I look far younger than I actually am!
Quinerly
OT
This popped up in my feed. Jimmy Buffett’s sister. Warning….a tear jerker.
https://www.keysnews.com/opinion/columns/many-wonder-the-same-whats-a-world-without-jimmy/article_66e58902-4b38-11ee-95a4-cb327197e9bb.html?fbclid=IwAR1iR9e8cF_MFQvcKvd4iczvc46Uw2R4CO5ZjvwLL9Ru_FAYYQsM5fRTnfs
Jackie
I see My Pillow Guy is crying that he’s so broke due to trying to save the election for TIFG.
Everyone who put their neck on the line for TIFG is broke, or going broke fast. EXCEPT for TIFG. You’d think these idiots would get a clue that they are all going under the bus while TIFG keeps grifting away…
Kay
Good for the donors for giving to her but may I suggest we think about the actual sums she raises and what it might cost to campaign in Tennessee?
It’s not “as much as small donor Democrats can throw at her” or “an unlimited amount of money because each dollar has X return in votes, to infinity”. If she rakes it in stop donating. Look for a point of diminshing returns.
stacib
@OzarkHillbilly: Without reading further comments, I’m guessing @prostratedragon meant did GPS end her up in the Chicago River or Lake Michigan. :-)
satby
@prostratedragon: I do know. I lived in Chicago during several movie shoots besides BB: The Package was in our neighborhood, Batman Returns downtown, the Untouchables (my late uncle was an extra) and a few others. Lots of fun to watch the filming.
Scout211
Special counsel accuses Trump of daily statements that could prejudice jury pool in election subversion case
Uh, ya think!?
satby
Waiting for the pickup on my boy porch kitty. The female is being such a vicious psycho I can’t get her captured, in a bedroom.
We knew she was a low probability of being adoptable, and since she’s been inside for 5 years she’s not barn cat material either. I’m thinking I need to humane trap her, but her future is looking pretty bleak right now.
TriassicSands
@OzarkHillbilly:
21 out of 24. No MySpace account, never ordered from Columbia House, and never had an AOL account. I still do some of them. I have an extensive classical music library on CDs; I still own a Walkman, though I haven’t used it a long time; I still write in cursive; I prefer paper maps to the crap online; I used a phone book the other day; I own several dictionaries (English and other languages); I just wrote two checks (my first and second in more than seven years) the other day; and I uncurled a phone cord yesterday. None of those things make me feel old. Age does that.
Scout211
And in New York, New York AG asks judge to sanction Trump for rehashing failed legal arguments
RSA
Tarrio’s lawyer, from CNN:
Jauregui doesn’t seem to realize that there’s a class of people who (a) are American citizens, (b) think they’re saving the country, and (c) are terrorists.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@RSA: Violent uprising is our right, as given to us by god through the 2nd amendment, blessed be its name.
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
Crawled out of the primordial ooze with Biden, did you?
Alison Rose
If anyone’s looking for a book recommendation, I just finished Happiness Falls by Angie Kim after plowing through it in about 24 hours and it was terrific. It’s quite sad but super fascinating and well-told. Synopsis from Goodreads:
smith
Looks like Kraken Lady may have some more Finding Out on her horizon. There’s some indication that Jack Smith is looking into voting machine tampering in four states funded and directed by her “non-profit,” an outfit that apparently existed for the political aim of casting doubt on the 2020 election. In MI and GA, several people have been indicted for this tampering, and there are state investigations in AZ and PA as well. Now those arrogant Goobers may have to face federal charges as well. It’s long overdue — I always thought that getting away with messing with voting machines was at least as dangerous as fielding fake electors.
jackmac
@Betty Cracker: I’ve found that many states produce maps of high quality and detail and are often available at highway rest stops. My home state (Illinois) actually produced two versions — including one with larger type for folks who might need to squint to find details.
Ruckus
@prostratedragon:
I think that was my favorite part of that movie. And that’s saying a lot because I liked all of it….
Doc Sardonic
@Jackie: It was on my newsfeed from CNN, so I can’t link it, seems the appeals court may have narrowed some areas but they did not block Smith’s group completely which is what Perry wanted. Nobody, outside the involved parties knows for sure what is in the ruling because it is under seal.
Ruckus
@hueyplong:
Somehow I seem to feel that him focusing on regret has a rather small likely hood of occurrence because his regret is likely to only be on the failure part, not the I shouldn’t have done that part.
kalakal
@OzarkHillbilly:
21 out of 24 on the wrinkly test.
No Aol, no myspace, never heard of Columbia House ( not a UK thing?)
First programming was in punch cards , and I was a CIXen for years ( UK usenet) which dates me.
Favourite arcade game was Defender
brantl
@Elizabelle: I’m not smiling, that SOB should have gotten life, as should Stewart Rhodes.
smith
@brantl: DOJ is appealing Rhodes’ sentence, but I have no idea how likely it is that he’ll end up with a higher sentence. I wouldn’t be surprised if they appealed the sentences for all the ringleaders.
Ruckus
@Jackie:
He’s sort of tied to the front of the bus face first with the driver actively looking for a solid concrete wall to run into. As long as the driver doesn’t find the right wall, he’s marginally OK. (I see him standing on the bumper, arms fully outstretched and tied to the bus mirrors, so he’s uncomfortable and has a really good view of the entire process of finding just the right wall. Oh and BTW he had to pay for the bus against his protests. I believe that the bus driver only agreed to do this if they ball gagged him so no one had to hear him screaming in his whiny voice.
Jackie
@Ruckus: 😂 Thanks for the vivid description, Ruckus! No pillows for protection, either!
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@smith: Never thought the Kraken would eat her face.
@kalakal: Didn’t take the wrinkly test but from what I’ve seen going around; I had AOL and MySpace, favorite arcade game was XMen or Simpsons, was the right age for Walkman but never owned one, but had many CDs.
Timill
@kalakal: 18 (Made a Mixed [sic] Tape, Rented a Movie From Blockbuster, Played an Atari, Had a MySpace Account, Ordered From Columbia House, Had an AOL Address)
Still moderate cix4yorkshiremen (only topic kidsthesedays) and have been explaining chicken-fried chicken in cix:gourmet today.
Demon account is long since retired (158.152.9.156)
Ruckus
@TriassicSands:
None of those things make me feel old. Age does that.
As someone who has a fair amount of that age stuff behind me, as in without a doubt I don’t likely have half of what time I’ve lived to go. I mean I’ll take it if offered, no question on that, but I’ve aged far beyond what any type of even close to affordable alcohol ever has been. Age does that. We sometimes help that aging along, mostly by doing stupid shit, sometimes it’s no fault of our own.
Ruckus
@Jackie:
Well it could be both of them, I should have specified that I meant ShitForBrains. The rest of them can spend 10-20 in Federal Max contemplating their navels.
Oh and BTW they get to sell all of his properties and bulldoze them flat, then sell the land for whatever price they can get from his rabid fans, to help pay for all the court costs. And they can build nothing on them or erect any signage whatsoever.
TriassicSands
@Ruckus:
In my case, it is bad genes and one serious health issue after another, none of them related to lifestyle or bad habits — some curable, some not. Auto-immune conditions come with the added benefit that the medications are often extraordinarily expensive, have generally unimpressive success rates, and offer the potential for very bad side effects, including death.* Seven major medications have all failed and my condition worsens month after month. I recently stopped taking one of the cheaper meds — $480/tablet, about $150,000.00/year. I got worse on it, rather than better. The most expensive, which just made Medicare’s first negotiation list, cost about $528,000.00/year (at the dose and frequency I had to take it), and it did nothing to help. But they make the pharmaceutical companies a ton of money.
* Death isn’t even necessarily the worst possible side effect. Some of the meds are implicated in PML — progressive multifocal leukoencephalopathy. The lucky people die within three to six months. Fortunately, it is rare.
Ramona
@OzarkHillbilly: 18/24, never made a mixed tape, nor played Atari, no Walkman (at least I think not), no MySpace, no AOL, can’t remember the sixth and last because I am indeed old ;}
Ramona
@SiubhanDuinne: Me too!
Ramona
@OzarkHillbilly: Ahahaha!
Chris T.
@skerry: “Face down, nine-edge forward” is a very specifically targeted joke….
Ramona
@hueyplong: right after blackmailing him for sparing his life saying, come his deadline if his wishes are not met, “… I start eating in restaurants.” Well, we’ve looked into our hearts, wait a minute, what heart?
Mel
@OzarkHillbilly: Uhh… yes to all of them, for me.
I’m as old as dirt, apparently!