Vote scheduled: Under the regular order, at 1:00pm, on Saturday, September 30th, the Senate will proceed to a roll call vote on the motion to invoke cloture on substitute amendment #1292 to Cal. #211, H.R.3935, legislative vehicle for the Continuing Resolution (November 17th).
— Senate Cloakroom (@SenateCloakroom) September 29, 2023
Politico reporter:
198-232 the House GOP CR to keep the government open fails.
Shutdown evitable.
— Daniella Diaz (@DaniellaMicaela) September 29, 2023
House Republicans fail to pass their own funding bill, putting America on the verge of a government shutdown pic.twitter.com/xHoP7jQi0K
— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) September 29, 2023
McCarthy's top allies know it'll be basically impossible to pass any stopgap funding bill in the House.
“Increasingly, members have been going to McCarthy to say we have to vote on it anyway," says Rep. Dusty Johnson.
— Annie Karni (@anniekarni) September 29, 2023
House Republicans can end the shutdown threat by putting bipartisan legislation on the floor.
Why won’t they do it?
The MAGA extremists would rather cut Social Security, slash public school funding and criminalize abortion care.
— Hakeem Jeffries (@RepJeffries) September 29, 2023
Just a reminder.
A few months ago, two-thirds of House Republicans voted for a bipartisan budget deal.
Now, they’ve gone back on their word and are marching our country toward an Extreme Republican Shutdown.
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) September 29, 2023
Here is Kevin McCarthy a few months ago praising the deal he made with President Biden to avert a government shutdown, which he is now reneging on pic.twitter.com/B4rVNzNXkZ
— Biden-Harris HQ (@BidenHQ) September 29, 2023
The Trump/Biden/Hunter Biden special counsels keep working (with pay). Sam Bankman-Fried faces a jury. New SCOTUS term kicks off. Google mega antitrust trial presses on.
What next week looks like on the legal front if there's a federal gov't shutdown:https://t.co/C1NtdoefTz
— Zoe Tillman (@ZoeTillman) September 29, 2023
Just to be clear – Speaker McCarthy will get paid during an Extreme Republican Shutdown.
Hardworking Americans will be the ones suffering. pic.twitter.com/YsrmCSzLMe
— The White House (@WhiteHouse) September 30, 2023
But let’s be clear, if staffers miss a paycheck that could be a substantial hardship if it keeps them from paying rent & monthly bills, paying loans on time, etc. Worse for the contractors, no doubt. But Repubs are also screwing over their own staffers https://t.co/ybOZWFCkzA
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) September 29, 2023
And the people responsible for him not having the votes quite literally do not care if the govt stays shut down for an entire FY, they view it as a good thing
— Mike Black (@MikeBlack114) September 29, 2023
House Republicans have chosen extremism over everyday Americans.
But it doesn't have to be this way.
It only takes a handful of Republicans saying enough is enough and joining @HouseDemocrats to avert a shutdown. pic.twitter.com/cBPWN7mCzo
— Katherine Clark (@WhipKClark) September 29, 2023
Democrats will savage Rs in swing districts, but unless and until R voters in gerrymandered districts decide to elect reps who do not delight in sabotaging functional democracy, this will not be the last episode of Republican political vandalism.https://t.co/UeEYG2wC9t
— Jennifer Truthful, Not Neutral Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) September 29, 2023
Frankensteinbeck
Put the Senate bill up for a vote, McCarthy. It will pass. It will pass easily. There, job done. You’ve already given Gaetz the middle finger when he threatened to recall you. The only thing holding you back is your own dumbass ego wanting to do things with only Republican votes. Accept you’re a fucking loser and you’ll stop being a loser and actually start getting shit done.
sdhays
I guess we should be thankful it didn’t happen this way over the debt ceiling. Shutdowns (or “shitdowns” as mistermix called it) are bad enough, but the debt ceiling would have been a catastrophe.
Frankensteinbeck
@sdhays:
The less crazy Republicans aren’t scared enough yet. The sheer cowardice of the Republicans dragging their feet and trying to procrastinate every difficult task is absurd.
Ken
That would be the Hastert Rule, named after disgraced Republican convicted Republican child molester Republican Dennis Hastert, former Republican Speaker of the House and Republican child molester.
(I’m hoping any Democrats who are asked about why the Democrats aren’t passing a bill casually drop that fact into their reply, after gently reminding the questioner with a clue-by-4 that the Speaker controls what bills may be voted on.)
Eolirin
@Ken: I think heard some less insane Republicans openly exploring a discharge petition with Democrats. I’m not sure if there’s enough of them, but McCarthy’s majority is even smaller than it was at the start of the term right now, so it wouldn’t take very many.
That’s another out.
dmsilev
While I’m sure some of Our Media Betters will try hard, it’s going to be really difficult to do a BothSidesToBlame on this when the House can’t even pass anything, never mind negotiating with the Senate or the Biden Administration.
bbleh
@Frankensteinbeck: do you think it’s really that? I still believe there are enough purple-district Republicans — it would only take like 5 or 6 — who would be willing to vote with Dems to avoid the shutdown because the risk of a successful primary challenge in their districts would be materially lower than the risk of losing to a Dem opponent in the general given a shutdown. But I think active opposition from McQarthy (including withdrawing financial support) would make them back off, at least for now, so he’d have to green light it, even if only privately, and I don’t think he’d do that, because he’d be branded a traitor. All of which is to say, I think the real roadblock here is McQarthy.
@Eolirin: that could work, but it’s a difficult thing to organize, and it would be even more difficult (I think practically impossible, at least for now) with McQarthy’s opposition. Of course, McQarthy could arrange a Grand Kabuki, in which he quietly allows it to happen (and doesn’t financially cut off the Republicans who sign it) while publicly Standing Proudly With His Caucus yada yada freedom yada, but I don’t think he’s got the stones for it (and he’d probably be ratted out by one of the Crazies anyway).
TS
Unreal that this just keeps happening because the GOP hates they are not a dictatorship.
As far as I know the Australian government had funding refused (in the Senate) once – (1975). Legislation has since insured that it will never happen again. And. of course, it was a RW opposition that shut down the funding, they didn’t like that the labor party was introducing social change & actually working for the people of Australia.
Every labor government ever since has been too damned chicken to stick to their own principles when they are in power. It is pleasing to see President Biden not being swayed by this continual attack and staying with the policies of his party.
dmsilev
@Ken: It’s not even the Hastert Rule in its original form. That one said any bill must have a majority of Republicans supporting, so in todays context, about 110 votes. McCarthy has that. What he doesn’t have is the stronger version, the Paul Ryan version, which is that bills must have enough Republicans supporting that it can pass with only Republican votes, ie 218.
HumboldtBlue
We Won! What the writer’s strike brought to the unions.
Frankensteinbeck
@Ken:
To echo @dmsilev: it’s not even the Hastert Rule. It was Boehner, not Ryan, who came up with this abominable, hyper-partisan ‘only with Republican votes’ bullshit. Hell, Hastert didn’t really use his own rule, he just came up with it.
Boehner created this dysfunction, and it boggles me that people let him skate for it.
Mind you, he was also following McConnell’s ‘total obstruction’ lead. They really, really hated having a black man elected president.
Eolirin
@Frankensteinbeck: I think it’s easy to forget how bad he was given what came after, much like it’s hard to remember just how bad it felt under W after Trump.
Frankensteinbeck
@Eolirin:
Boehner got away with it even at the time. It’s like the man had a damn super power. Even liberals, even most of the people here went “Oh, well, he’s shackled by the teabagger caucus!” No, he wasn’t. Only his insistence on that jackass hyper-Hastert rule, which was his own creation, gave them any power. He just refused to allow Democrats any place in government. Which is now the Republican default policy.
I get pretty heated about this. It was a cataclysmic governmental shift people breezed past as if it was already normal.
ArchTeryx
@Frankensteinbeck: He effectively turned the Republicans into a parliamentary party in a House that is NOT designed for that kind of party discipline. And the nutjobs, who normally would have been a fringe party in a parliamentary democracy, get to run the show in this coalition as a result.
NotMax
Ds: New Deal.
Rs: Screw Deal.
.
ArchTeryx
@Frankensteinbeck: Absolutely. He turned the House into the House of Commons without, y’know, actually changing to a parliamentary democracy. All following the lead of the Chicago City Council with Harold Washington. White people just cannot stand having a black man have power over them, and that goes double for Republicans.
Mike G
Elect Republican clowns, expect a circus.
Jeffro
It’s late but I have two quick things to note:
HumboldtBlue
@ArchTeryx:
This is why we read this blog. That is as cogent an explanation as one could wish for on a Friday night in an online conversation on a blog. I mean, a real-life, 2004-era blog.
Extraordinary.
Who wants a beer?
Ken
@Frankensteinbeck: Oh. Well, I guess the Democrats can still reply “That is because Speaker McCarthy insists the bill pass only with Republican votes, a rule that people often confuse with the Hastert rule, named after convicted” et cetera.
trollhattan
@NotMax:
Cows: Chew Deal
Teen Girls: Shoo Deal
Cat on Roof: Mew Deal
Serengeti Plain: Gnu Deal
Hollywood Execs: Reel Deal
Thank you and please enjoy the shoo.
glc
From the gossip columns
Melania Trump has a New Deal. Allegedly.
Ruckus
@Frankensteinbeck:
This. Simply this. These putzes have really no idea how well this won’t go over with the majority, and that likely includes a not insignificant number on their side of politics. These are never good for the country or politics. And done for the absolutely worst reasons. This country is actually growing the fuck up over the last 4 or 5 decades and it works better, it is better and these shitheads just don’t realize it because they see people that don’t look like them getting ahead.
RaflW
I’m tellin’ ya (and have for a few weeks now, sorry to be repetitive). Pointing out how totally the GOP are just chaos monkeys now is central to how we win in ’24. Needs to be coupled with a vision of the future that looks good (which is what things like Joe going to Michigan was for, but also lots of other “we’re the steady hand of government” messages too).
This is more of the excellent Biden social media team:
Ruckus
@TS:
Sooner or later it has to end or at least be stuffed so far into the closet that it can’t find it’s way back out. The country has gotten too big and the SFB crowd is actually too small to do other than fuck up everything and likely will not get stronger any time soon. I’d say it is possible that they will be far more marginalized for all the crap (which is all they have left) they pull trying to remain at all reasonably around. I also do not think this is a thing that President Biden can fix, I think we need to figure out how to reach the reachable, to show them that the PTB on their side are screwing them as badly as everyone else.
wjca
A touch difficult to square this with Obama winning the popular vote. Twice. In a country that isn’t (yet) majority minority.
He obviously got a fair number of votes from white people. Including mine and, AFAICT, those of most of the white people here. (But perhaps we’re WINOs — white in name only. Well, that and physiology, heredity, etc.)
kalakal
@ArchTeryx:
@ArchTeryx:
I couldn’t agree more but I can assure that the House of Commons can end up dancing to the fringes tune.
When to everyone’s amazement John Major won the 1992 election he had a wafer thin majority. A small group of proto Brexiteers, the “Euro Sceptics”, or as Major called them “the Bastards”, were able to derail his attempts at govt whenever it suited them. Of course, whenever there was a vote of no confidence they voted for the govt they were otherwise sabotaging ( their principles didn’t extend to putting their views to the approval of their constituents in an election) and the dysfunctional result staggered on for 5 years.
The situation was different to the current one here in that due to the UK parliamentary system the govt could still get some legislation passed, but they were only firing on one cylinder thanks to less than 20 nutjobs.
The good news was it so discredited the Tories they lost the next 3 elections by landslides, may that happen to the GQP.
wjca
It worked OK in the past. Bring back the smoke-filled rooms!
wjca
Rat deserting the sinking ship.
Another Scott
@RaflW: Speaking of Biden, this morning in the car I was flipping radio stations and came across a bit of the call-in on C-Span Radio (roughly):
… Tim from Arkansas is on the Independent Line.
Thanks for taking my call. From the first day in office, Joe Biden is a Self-Described Dictator and …
[ click ]
(It starts around 30:25 here).
They’re out there. We, the good and sensible people in America, we out-number them. We have to show up to out-vote them and move the country forward.
Hang in there, everyone. Eyes on the prizes.
Cheers,
Scott.
patrick II
@Frankensteinbeck:
Boehner does not get enough disrespect for this. Democrats treat him like a good ol’ boy. Most people don’t even know what he did and he should be notorious among Democrats.
Requiring a majority of your own party is usually OK., but the Boehner rule is undemocratic and harmful.
Another Scott
@patrick II: Not only that, but he (and Pence) loudly and frequently yelled that he was not going to compromise – that he rejects the word.
A legislature that cannot accept compromise is not a functional, democratic, institution.
As driftglass frequently reminds us, today’s GQP didn’t just appear out of thin air a couple of years ago. Too many of them have been like this for a very, very long time.
Grr…,
Scott.
Lyrebird
@Another Scott:
Eyes on the prize, yes. Not going to listen to the link, but I will wonder out loud if Mark Meadows aniticipated a sshutdown & hoped to drag things out further by moving his case.
Reason number 4,327 to bless DA Fani Willis and her very skilled team.
Heck, even most Rs in power in GA seem pretty fed up with the wannabe dictator and his coterie. I personally consider Kemp’s voter access reduction to be highly racist, but thank goodness he does not seem to be fine with ginning up death threats against his state’s election workers just to support Hair Furor’s plans.
I know the Fulton County stuff is not the main topic, but it’s what I am thinking of so I can get some sleep, instead of focusing on the bad stuff that I can’t change. I could be wrong, but I don’t think Fulton County GA legal cases will be put on hold during a federal shutdown.
NaijaGal
I serve on an NIH committee, which gives me “special government employee” status and so I got a nice email about an hour ago letting me know that I am being furloughed. Thankfully, I am employed full-time at a university, and don’t have to rely on the approximately $200-$400 I earn from the NIH to make ends meet, but it just brings home the fact that there are federal employees who literally won’t be able to pay their bills if there is a shutdown. Good people doing a great job, held hostage by nutjobs. That makes me very angry.
wjca
About the only way they could is by trying to convince the presiding judge to wait while they filed some kind of Federal action. Action on which would have to wait for the Federal government to open again. I’m guessing that the judge would not be amused.
Another Scott
@Lyrebird: Yes, the Fulton County prosecution in Georgia should not be directly affected by the lack of federal funds come October 1. (I suppose there could be pathological effects if the shutdown lasts long enough.)
There have been all kinds of exceptions and exemptions passed over the years, so much (but not all) of the federal government will keep running even without funding. But, of course, millions will still be hurt even if it’s not every federal employee.
GovExec.com has a graph of furlough rates at federal agencies doing furloughs (scroll down).
Grr…,
Scott.
NotMax
Glossed over since Wednesday in favor of repetition of cutesy (or attempted cutesy) soundbites, these abhorrent remarks from the debate chill to the bone.
wjca
Nutjobs who, it must be pointed out, will still be getting their paychecks during the shutdown. On time and in full. Even while refusing to do their jobs — and not just at the moment.
Jackie
@glc: I read a bit about this. What caught my attention was TIFG properties guaranteed to Melanoma. If the NY state civil suit shuts down and sells all or most of his Trump Org properties, she’s screwed, too. No matter what the updated prenup guarantees. So sad.
Alison Rose
I hate these people. Why the hell do we have to share a country with a bunch of maniacs who are gleefully burning it to the ground.
NotMax
Inadvertently omitted two key lede paragraphs in #37’s snippet.
RaflW
@Jackie: I’m 100% in favor of letting MTG’s district secede. As long as there’s a way to get everyone out who doesn’t want to live in her sh*thole little Handmaids Bunker after the ‘national divorce’. Surrounded by barbed wire, with passport controls and good damn luck getting imported foods and such.
Matt McIrvin
@wjca: Obama definitely did not win a majority of the white vote. No Democratic Presidential candidate ever does, these days.
Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
Hey NotMax!
In the last thread, Sister Golden Bear is coming to Maui next week! I was wondering if you were interested in a meetup? contact me at nwithers84 at a gmail address.
(Sorry about flaking the last time there was thought for a meetup, I was having a hard time moving back to the island that time).
Shalimar
@wjca: As a white person who voted for Obama twice and a recent new resident of Alabama, I realize that ArchTeryx was not including me in the majority of white people who are racist as fuck. It doesn’t have to be all of us to be crippling to the country. And there was an undeniable backlash against Obama by the white people who vote for Republicans.
tobie
@NaijaGal: We just got an email at work that while we can expect NIH funding to continue for a time if the shutdown goes on for weeks, funding will slow and in some cases cease. Judging from yoru experience, the message I got may be too positive. Researchers paid with grant money could be in real trouble and this is doubly true for those on a visa who can’t rack up debt.
A slowdown in NIH and NSF funding will wreak havoc on research–which is essential for an advanced economy. Republicans are keen to turn us into a poor nation.
TriassicSands
Yeah, but with a twist. They’ll burn down the tent and poison the Cracker Jacks and other refreshments. None of the clowns will be remotely funny and all the animals will be mistreated, if not killed. Fun day at the circus.
wjca
I didn’t mean to imply that he had. Just to take issue with the “all white people” generalization.
I’d suggest that the evidence that a majority of white people are racist is a bit slim. Yes, there are some who otherwise vote D who refused to vote for him. And yes, there are lots of Republucans who are true to their racist Dixiecrat roots. But I submit that the two do not constitue a majority. Do you have evidence to the contrary?
Shalimar
@RaflW: Not objecting to NW Georgia seceding, but that I-75 corridor between Chattanooga and Atlanta is where the majority of America’s flooring (carpets, tile) is produced or imported. There are also longer alternative routes around it but it is a major trucking route. It wouldn’t be so easy to just surround it with barbed wire.
Chetan Murthy
@Matt McIrvin: my memory is the same as yours, and googling says that the last time a democratic presidential candidate won a majority of the white vote was 1964.
wjca
Since I-75, like all Interstates, was built with Federal money, they wouldn’t want it anyway. And nobody lives on a highway. So just fence them off it as well. (They can, perhaps, use over/under passes the same way wildlife has crossings in some places.)
Dopey-o
The endgame plan for the Freedom Caucus is a shutdown. They don’t want a solution, they will accomplish their goals by sitting on their hands.
There is a name for this in game theory, which I don’t recall. In poker, it’s called ‘standing pat.’
Thurber called it ‘sitting in the catbird seat.’
As long as no progress is made, McCarthy retains his Speaker’s Gavel. The minute he moves toward a resolution, he’s out. McCarthy will stand pat.
Many of us may suffer, but that’s a sacrifice he’s willing to make.
MisterDancer
Didn’t we, as a country, just have a huge discussion about this very topic when the Black Lives Matter movement went big?
Racism isn’t about just cross burning. It’s about the discomfort of your child dating a Black person. It’s the subtle bias that leans you into hiring the White person, even when the Black person has better credentials. It’s the desire to not see Black causes as on the same level as ones raised by White voices. Or, yeah, the desire to say the N word.
There are so many small biases that I see all the damn time as a Black person. And yeah, those little acts are racist, too. Just because they don’t involve me being lynched doesn’t make them impactful and real.
Look,it’s late for me. Can you just go and do some reading on this before deciding to debate racism in the Year Of Our Lord 2023, please?
Thanks.
HumboldtBlue
I am watching the Aussie rules football halftime show, not sure how I got here, but, wow, it’s umm… it’s a show.
Melody needs to make a come back is all I’m sayin’.
NotMax
@Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
Amenable.
ArchTeryx
Yeah, I shouldn’t have made quite such a blanket statement about white people not standing a black man over them. It’s disproven by the fact that I am a white man but have voted D, every time, since college. And I hate the racists with a passion. But I grew up in Chicago, and let me tell you, that statement is pretty damn accurate for that particular city. I saw a preview of the Obama years when a black man, Harold Washington, was elected mayor of the city, and the very Democratic City Council shut the whole city down rather than let him govern. The stress was so great he died of a heart attack shortly after being re-elected.
And yes, I also made a mistake in thinking parliamentary democracies can’t be held hostage by a fringe party if they are required to form a governing coalition. They can even call for a vote of no confidence to dissolve the government (triggering new elections) but that doesn’t mean they’re going to win it. The counterargument is parliamentary democracies have more flexible outs besides “wait for the next election in 2/4/6 years” to deal with a rogue party. The problems start when, just like with us, the nuts take over a major governing party. Like the Tories.
wjca
@MisterDancer: Not disputing any of that. Just noting that I also see people out there who are entirely relaxed about their children’s mixed race marriages. Who hire the best qualified candidate, without reference to race, gender, etc., etc. (And without caring what the EEOC might think.)
Anyone on the receiving end of racism is going to remember it in quite stark terms. (I certainly remember the times my mixed race marriage got a negative reaction.) It is harder to remember all the times it didn’t happen.
But those times it didn’t happen are how we see that progress has been made. Not enough, and not as fast as it should have. But not zero either. I remember stuff that was pervasive and unremarked on in my childhood, but which doesn’t happen any more, across much of the country, without immediate pushback. And not just from those acted upon.
Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
@NotMax: email me when you can, I’ll see if there is a place/time that works for the three of us. any preferences in location/time?
If can, can.
wjca
@ArchTeryx: Thank you for this. I admit I’m twitchy about sweeping generalizations. I feel like they get in the way of winning over persuadable people. People who look around and decide, however unfairly, that if you can’t detect that things aren’t that simple, your ideas on the subject aren’t worth considering.
ArchTeryx
@wjca: Hey, if I screw up, I try to make it right. And I’m hardly a paragon of perfection.
NotMax
@Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]
If you’re present in this thread, Sister Golden Bear, park and crater will be closed to visitation in the event of a shutdown.
wjca
Alas! Another illusion shattered. ;-)
Sister Golden Bear
@NotMax: Yeah, that’s what I was expecting.
Ksmiami
@Alison Rose: that’s why they need to be absolutely destroyed in terms of holding political power. They are fucking vandals who don’t deserve to live in the USA. Fuck the GOP- it’s a domestic terrorist organization
Ksmiami
@tobie: a poor, ignorant, violent nation – that is the GOP vision for America
Shalimar
@ArchTeryx: It’s pretty accurate for Alabama too. There are maybe 20% of us that aren’t politically motivated primarily by racism, but it’s pretty depressing that most people defined as “white” here vote Republican now for that reason more than any other. They don’t talk about it openly that often, but it is very obvious.
hells littlest angel
“Shutdown evitable.”
Oh, good!
Barry
@dmsilev: “While I’m sure some of Our Media Betters will try hard, it’s going to be really difficult to do a BothSidesToBlame on this when the House can’t even pass anything, never mind negotiating with the Senate or the Biden Administration.”
Challenge accepted!
JMG
It isn’t even the media so much as the belief by a huge number of Americans that the President is not a chief executive with constitutionally defined powers, but a kind of wizard who is responsible for everything on earth. Shutdown bad. Why doesn’t Biden do something about it?
Another Scott
@Dopey-o:
Mostly agreed, but with some caveats.
The fascists and RWNJs love a crisis because it lets them buy assets at pennies on the dollar (as TIFG once said). It makes voters scared and makes them want to pick a “strong leader” who will make everything as it was in the good old days. It’s the reason why the RWNJs around the world imposed austerity after the housing crash – gotta make things worse to make voters vote for us!!
So, the GQP is hoping against hope that oil and gas prices will spike before the election; hoping against hope that there will be a recession; hoping against hope that there will be some crisis that will make people scared.
That’s why they’re screaming about being “invaded”, screaming about hordes of people running across the “open border”, while using statistics of border encounters with CBP, etc., as if all of those people were just waved in with open arms (rather than mostly being turned away).
It’s a very old story.
We, as a species, need to be smarter about how we respond to ginned-up fearmongering.
With all that said, the interests of elected GQPers also depend on the interests of their donors and voters. A couple of weeks and a few billion dollars that causes some aggravation but doesn’t mess up the paychecks, that they can spin as a great victory, is one thing. A shutdown that throws people out of work, sucks money out of the economy, and sets money on fire with nothing to show for it, is something else.
October 11 is the deadline for preventing real pain for the federal workforce.
We’ll see how it goes.
Hang in there, everyone.
Cheers,
Scott.
Dopey-o
You are so correct! Thanks for the complete explanation. I lack your writing skills.
It was late Friday night and my major goal was to quote Thurber. His “Catbird Seat” story references insanity and manipulation. And delusion.
I am beginning to detect the presence from all 3.
Brit in Chicago
@Ken: The original version of the Hastert Rule was that more than half of the majority caucus must approve of the bill.* That’s a much more lenient test than the one McCarthy’, which seems to be that there must be 218 Republicans who would support it. (Is that his rule? Or is he just making stuff up as he goes along? I looked for a definite statement about this but couldn’t find one.)
*That’s my recollection, and also the Wikepedia version: “The Hastert Rule says that the Speaker will not schedule a floor vote on any bill that does not have majority support within their party—even if the majority of the members of the House would vote to pass it.
dmsilev got there first. If McCarthy really won’t bring anything to the floor unless it has 218 R votes, then with only 221 R’s in total we’re in a lot of trouble. Pelosi might have managed under those circs, and maybe Jeffries could too, but McCarthy? Let’s hope he bends* the rule before too much damage is done.
*By “bends” I mean “breaks”.
Brit in Chicago
@ArchTeryx: In the actual House of Commons (unless something has changed relatively recently), His Majesty’s Loyal Opposition (i.e.. the minority party) has the right to bring a certain number of bills to the floor to be voted on. Having that kind of rule, or not, makes an enormous difference, that is not so obviously connected with its being a parliamentary system.