It is interesting how social media and media discourse are again diverging from actual realities. Social and traditional media are becoming more rw, meanwhile the actual rw is losing juice https://t.co/wVkvwFL6as
— vocational politics appreciation account (@Convolutedname) February 22, 2024
2024 is not 2020 or 2016. Interest in political news is down across the board, including on the right. Trump is no longer an exciting new thing, he's dominated news for nearly a decade. His small donor fundraising is down.
Question is whether engagement surges as election nears pic.twitter.com/w1CscdRX35
— Andrew Prokop (@awprokop) February 22, 2024
There is now a solution!
You can spend all day 'triggering' the AI with prompts like 'would you say the N word to save Taylor Swift' and it'll always respond. Always always.
AI won't block you or ignore your texts or report you to HR or leave you cold and alone on Christmas.
You are finally complete.
— zeddy (@Zeddary) February 23, 2024
Give ’em a subscription to their preferred (anti)social media channel and automatic Domino’s delivery, we can reduce the local annoyance factor by at least 40%…
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
Disengagement with the news is a good thing. Glad to see the numbers going down.
[Now, if I could just disengage with Balloon Juice…]
scav
What! Have Elon & Puttie’s hordes of bots somehow failed to pump up the numbers? Don’t they know infrastructure has to be maintained?
How sad it is when your old imaginary friends fail you. Clearly yes, they have to turn to the latest ego-cuddle.
Mousebumples
Not sure if this theory for why GOP small dollar donations has dropped has been posited before, but….
Are the unvaccinated COVID deaths and disabilities making an impact?
Might be just thinking of anecdata and area Trumper I’ve recently seen obits for, so might be overstating my own recent/local experiences.
Rooting for injuries, as always.
dmsilev
Having conservatives spend all of their time arguing with ChatGPT seems like a good way of keeping them busy rather than their normal activities of cramming evil down everyone’s throats. Maybe someone should fund WokeGPT or whatever strictly to give conservatives an endless windmill to tilt at.
Matt McIrvin
This reminds me of Lem’s “The Futurological Congress” in which there’s a company called Procrustics, Inc. which will for a fee provide you with realistic android simulations of enemies you can abuse and murder to your heart’s content.
BlueGuitarist
Republican chair of the NRSC, committee to elect Rs to the Senate urges R campaigns to defend IVF but cosponsored a bill to outlaw it, lying like R SCOTUS nominees
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/senators-now-defending-ivf-cosponsored-bill-to-outlaw-it
EngineerScotty
Someone dropped a poll the other day showing Biden losing Wisconsin to Nikki Haley by twelve points or so, to which Imma calling bullshit, but given the recent and continuing trend of special election results being FAR better for Democrats than polls indicated, I’ve a question:
Is the actual electorate in many of these things, majority-female? Are women getting out and voting more in the specials, and the bros staying home, but bros showing up in November in large numbers a thing?
For a long time, it was generally accepted wisdom that special-election voters were more Republican-leaning than general-election voters, as right-wing pastors whipped their flocks, and the lower stakes of such elections often resulting in a higher turnout among the retired vs those who need to be at work on a random Tuesday. But the recent special-election electorate has been far more liberal than the polls indicated.
Might the conventional wisdom being reversed here? Or is it more likely that the polls are BS, and continuing to oversample Republican and Republican-leaning voters?
Mousebumples
JaySinWA
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: You want your ring back?
Mousebumples
@EngineerScotty: anecdata, again, but myself and my female Wisconsin friends and relatives are ready to #GOTV in November.
But I don’t answer calls from numbers I don’t know, so I don’t do polls.
BlueGuitarist
Mike Rogers, r candidate for US Senate in Michigan pretended to support IVF
Elissa Slotkin, running against him:
”Come on, Mike. In your 14 years in Congress, you co-sponsored FOUR bills — the last one with Jim Jordan in 2013 — that would have the same effect as the Alabama Supreme Court’s IVF ruling, making it impossible for millions of couples to have a family. You don’t get to run away from your own record because you’re just now understanding the consequences.“
smith
AG James is on a roll:
Another Scott
Meanwhile, … RollCall.com:
IOW, Johnson still hasn’t decided what poison pills he’s going to try to ram through.
Clowns.
But this is to be expected. The whole point of these multiple deadlines is to try to force Biden and the Senate to panic and give the bomb-throwers what they want.
There isn’t going to be any agreement until the last minute (or later), as always.
🎶 🎵 … if you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice! 🎵 🎶
Brookings has a helpful summary of what actually shuts down during a (partial) government shutdown.
Grr…,
Scott.
Jackie
Latitia James wins again!
Sister Machine Gun of Quiet Harmony
@Mousebumples:
Maybe, but I doubt it. Rage can be addicting, but its also exhausting. People are still mad about high prices, but it is improving. The economy is good. Gas prices came down and, as we are producing a record amount of oil, can’t say Biden ruined the industry. We aren’t at war. There are plenty of jobs. The trans panic that really heated up in the run up to 2016 is dying down a bit. The pandemic restrictions are all gone. The Dems actually tried to do something bipartisian about the border. Plus, the GOPers keep getting mired in ugly scandal after scandal. Rightwing media keeps trying to stoke the flames, but it seems to me the fuel’s a little damp.
smith
@Another Scott: Could it be they want to stay away as long as possible to duck any discharge petition on Ukraine?
JaySinWA
NRA, LaPierre, Phillips and Frazer are losers to New York Attorney General Letitia James.
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/nra-trial-New York Attorney General Letitia James-rcna138827
ETA And Jackie beat me to it
As did smith
Geminid
@BlueGuitarist: An interesting post today from Newsday reporter Yancey Roy:
Albany Democrats are discussing passing a U.S. House map of their own design, and it sounds like they will. A critic called the map drawn by New York’s Independent Redistricting Commission an “incumbent-mander.”
Matt McIrvin
@EngineerScotty: Essentially all elections these days are majority-female. It’s just a question of how big the majority is.
I know Dave Wasserman has speculated along the same lines as you and thinks the traditional Republican advantage in low-turnout elections has reversed, meaning Democrats can’t take so much encouragement from these wins. I guess we will see.
Another Scott
@smith: Maybe! Dunno.
IIRC, a Discharge Petition is “privileged”, but presumably the House does need to be in session.
Thanks.
Cheers,
Scott.
Baud
@Matt McIrvin:
Hard to believe that that analysis would hold of the GOP were winning these elections.
Ken
Andrew Prokop quotes: “Trump has to get his followers hooked on the “donate” button now so they keep giving closer to November 5.”
I think this ignores the strategy he used four years ago, where clicking on the “donate” button sets up a recurring donation — not that the donate page mentioned that.
Xantar
@Mousebumples: even though COVID deaths are disproportionately impacting conservatives, the total number of those deaths is still an order of magnitude smaller than the number of voters coming out in the primaries or making donations. If deaths from COVID-19 are having an impact, it wouldn’t be as big as what we are seeing.
scav
Donor fatigue: Not just for NPR anymore.
gratuitous
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: What, the photos of Cole aren’t doing it?
As to the topic at hand, I have maintained since the last election that Trump has hit his high water mark. Think about people who either voted against him in 2016 or 2020 or didn’t vote in those elections at all. How many of them are looking at Trump’s endless grieve-a-thons and saying to themselves, “Maybe I judged this guy too hastily! I really need to think about voting for him.”
Yeah, nobody, that’s who. Despite the herculean efforts of the popular media, re-inflating the Trump balloon just isn’t going to happen. Biden’s got some hurdles to overcome, but he’s a seasoned politician and campaigner, and I trust his experience and judgment to run his re-election campaign (and February is way too soon to be bringing the A game).
Ken
@Another Scott: I remain hopeful I will someday see a President invoke the Article II Section 3 power to convene both houses. “No, you can’t have your vacation until you do your job.”
Roberto el oso
— Dear AI, why won’t you respond? Are you ghosting me?
AI: ‘…. collating ….’
Jeffro
they ARE in a tizzy about it, aren’t they?
I’m excited to hear GOP pols explain how those embryos are most definitely not people and everything is hunky-dory there SHUT UP ALABAMA SUPREME COURT WE’RE TRYING TO
FOOL VOTERSWIN AN ELECTION HERE!Jackie
125 House GQP members back “Life at Conception”:
TIFG started this GQP nightmare – and it IS a nightmare for him, and he’s fully aware of it. 125 of HIS disciples are ignoring his demands to fix this.
His three SCOTUS picks started all of this. The genie is out of the bottle and is not going back in.
BlueGuitarist
@Geminid:
“incumbent-mander” because the independent commission map helps R incumbent Marc Molinaro and D incumbent Pat Ryan and not a lot of change beyond that.
iirc the map needs a 2/3 vote in the state assembly and state senate and vote will be soon.
NotMax
Dear Abby, dear Abby
You won’t believe this
My AI insults me
On each of my clicks
.
Geminid
@BlueGuitarist: Westchester County Democrat Tom Watson (@tomwatson) follows this story and other state political news. He reposted Roy’s post with the comment:
It sounds like Zeldin and the others spiked the ball before they got to the end zone.
EngineerScotty
@Ken: Can that be defeated with a pro-forma session? i.e. Speaker Johnson, or his delegate, shows up in the well of the House, gavels the House into session (with nobody else there), and then immediately moves to adjourn?
Don’t think that either POTUS, or the Senate (which needs to give permission for the House to adjourn for more than three days IIRC) actually can compel the other house to have a quorom for business, let alone conduct any.
EngineerScotty
@Geminid:
As an Oregon State alum, this video always breaks my heart.
Utah vs. Oregon Touchdown Fail, 99 Yard Fumble Return – YouTube
Chief Oshkosh
FWIW, ABC News presents completely watered-down report on the IVF outcome.
And, so far half way into the half-hour “news” program, and nothing on THE story since at least 2010: The Russian takeover of the GOP. Nothing.
Geminid
@EngineerScotty: Oh man, I felt bad for that player.
Jackie
@Chief Oshkosh: NBC has a good write up – including one woman interviewed stating she won’t vote for anyone who supports AL’s ruling. I trust she speaks for millions of voters. 🤞🏻
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/alabamas-ivf-ruling-embryos-republican-political-bind-rcna140070
MagdaInBlack
@NotMax: Nice 🤗
Hob
@TBone: don’t know if you’ll see this, but I wanted to follow up on Ivan X’s reply to you earlier – not to pile on, but in hopes of clarifying why so many people responded the way they did. Besides the “all her stuff” remark, I think you probably made things a bit worse by going so quickly to this kind of thing:
“I don’t learn much by censoring my intake, but opposing and varied views enlarge my thinking”
I mean… literally no one disagrees with that. I think it’s a safe bet that there’s not one single person here who only reads stuff they agree with. Conversely, we all “censor our intake” in that we don’t feel compelled to read literally every damn opinion that is out there— I have some standards, and so do you— and I’m sure there is some stuff that you feel is pernicious and doesn’t deserve to be recommended. So if you use the “Well, I have an open mind” type of comeback when someone was just saying they think this particular writer is full of shit and not worthy of a recommendation… that comes off as a dodge, and kind of an insulting one.
I’m sure you’ve run across the kind of guy online who tells you to read some bizarre wingnut material and then, if you say no thanks, goes off about how liberals are all in a bubble and don’t ever want to see any opposing views, whereas he is an independent thinker. We’ve all run into that guy a million times. So remarks that follow that pattern can be a sore spot.
BruceFromOhio
Give ‘em what they want.
JustRuss
I knew I liked you. I think you’ll enjoy this:
Hitler reacts to Clay’s fumble
Matt McIrvin
@Ken: Tbf the Biden campaign has been hitting me up *extra* hard since I already gave them a taste. But they didn’t do the “surprise recurring donation!” thing
prostratedragon
@EngineerScotty: Thanks for the deep, cleansing guffaw!😆😆
moonbat
These numbers re: falling engagement by the rage-addicted presages even worse for Musk’s ill-advised investment in the Twitter machine. The whole “business plan” as far as there was one was to let all the racist, hateful crazies back in so they could endlessly rage at and abuse the “lie-bruls” they so despised. Now the shine is off that too.
Whomp-whomp, as they say.
Chris T.
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon:
BJ always sucks you back in, because BJ sucks?
(Well, a BJ … never mind)