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Late Night Open Thread: Adam Schiff for Senator

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MAGAt twitter (the parts that I see) is deeply offended by Schiff’s success, of course, and predictions are that the other leg of the horseshoe won’t be very happy either…

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  1. 1.

    JWR

    Adam Schiff’s acceptance speech was so drowned out by a chant of “cease fire now” that he eventually thanked everyone and called it a night.

    Steve Garvey’s acceptance speech was a bucket list of loaded GOP talking points delivered in a weak voice. Sorry, Steve. You can be my first baseman any day, but my senator? No thanks.

  2. 2.

    HumboldtBlue

    No surprises.

    Garvey, I mean, Steve Garvey (snort), fuck him, here’s to hoisting a pint in November after an ass-whuppin’ that sends him running to Herschel Walker for a hug.

  4. 4.

    J. Arthur Crank

    It is hard to see a weaker opponent than Mr. Garvey.  Although weak candidates have been elected before, I am pretty confident about Team D’s chances here.

  5. 5.

    HumboldtBlue

    In other news, a dear friend was recognized for his journalism.

    The First Amendment Coalition has announced its Free Speech and Open Government Award winners for 2023, honoring the work of the Journal’s own News Editor Thadeus Greenson alongside journalists at The New York Times, Bloomberg and MuckRock. The annual award recognizes “outstanding contributions to the advancement of free expression or the people’s right to know about their government.”

  8. 8.

    SiubhanDuinne

    Agree with Rachel, Jen, and Co. If I were a Californian I would have had a tough time deciding among those three talented Dem politicians. In the event, would probably have voted for Schiff — in large part because I still have such happy memories of the great two-part Zoom call we had with him a couple of years ago that Water Girl set up and Almost Retired moderated. Schiff was quite remarkably personable, even for a politician. I’m happy he won tonight.

  11. 11.

    Mr. Bemused Senior

    @JWR: Adam Schiff’s acceptance speech was so drowned out by a chant of “cease fire now”

    Yes, it was a bit disappointing. The crowd of supporters started chanting “Adam Schiff,” but that wasn’t really an effective response.

    One of the protesters came over to me afterwards and we talked a little. I doubt either of us changed our minds but at least it wasn’t useless shouting.

    [ETA it’s going to be a long 8 months]

  14. 14.

    Tehanu

    Continuing my lifelong pattern of voting for non-winners, I (and Hubby Dearest) voted for Barbara Lee since I figure Schiff will walk all over Garvagey in the general anyway, and I wanted to acknowledge her being the only goddam member of Congress to vote against Bush the Lesser’s Iraqi Adventure, back about a thousand years ago, not to mention that I liked her policy statements on her campaign website better than either Schiff’s or Porter’s.  Sigh….

  15. 15.

    Citizen Alan

    @Mr. Bemused Senior:

    One of the protesters came over to me afterwards and we talked a little. I doubt either of us changed our minds but at least it wasn’t useless shouting.

    Well, of course they weren’t shouting anymore–the cameras weren’t on them! Honestly, I refuse to believe that assholes like that care one iota about Gaza. It’s just another cudgel to attack Democrats. If Biden used his Green Lantern Ring to end the Gaza War tomorrow, they’d just move on to something else.

  16. 16.

    Darkrose

    @Tehanu: I liked everything about Lee, and if it was 2014 I would have voted for her. It’s 2024, and after all of the nonsense with DiFi I just couldn’t vote for the 73-year-old.

  18. 18.

    Steeplejack

    @Citizen Alan:

    LOL: 2:00 a.m. is not a good time to post. FYWP does some background maintenance stuff that can make things wonky.

    ETA: Six might be a new record.

  20. 20.

    sab

    @Tehanu: I share your respect for Lee, but not true that she was the only member of Congress to vote against the Iraq war. There were well over a hundred Democrats. But she did sponsor an actual resolution

  21. 21.

    Turgidson

    @sab: Lee was the only vote against the AUMF shortly after 9/11, I believe.  Plenty of others voted against Iraq specifically.

  24. 24.

    Shalimar

    Watching the replay on MSNBC, and Rachel Maddow said that Schiff has spent time and money trying to elevate Garvey to 2nd place so he wouldn’t have to run against Porter or Lee in the general election.  I do not know how to quantify that effort, but it’s disappointing to me.  I do not want Steve Garvey anywhere near elected office.

  26. 26.

    Will

    @Citizen Alan: I’ve met a handful that I think are legitimately concerned. The worst part and the one that always makes me feel sick, is that of them, they have family in harm’s way. Coming from a land of plenty and privilege, I can’t imagine what it feels like to live day to day knowing that a loved one is trapped in a situation you are almost powerless to stop.

    The problem I have with the other protestors, at least here in Pittsburgh, is that a lot of it is just DSA or Green Party folks trying to take advantage to damage the Democratic Party. They don’t really care or even understand how complicated the world is. They order their Made in China or India keffiyeh and hop into the street to decry Genocide Joe with gusto. I listened to a lab tech for vaccine research at UPMC explain to me how it was ok for the Houthis to try and kill the mostly African, Indian, or South East Asians that crew container ships because they were trapped in “exploitation” and thus legitimate targets. It was mind boggling.

  27. 27.

    AlaskaReader

    @JWR: You’d have Garvey at first on your team?

    It’s bad enough that we are forced to put up with right wingers in the public sphere,

    …why the hell would you choose to spend more time with any of them when it could be so easily avoided.

    Choosing to spend time with awful people is a quite unfathomable concept to me.

  28. 28.

    Quaker in a Basement

    Well, heck. Either of the women would have made better senators. But still, I’d rather Schiff than many others.

  29. 29.

    JWR

    I think this was already asked and answered, and so I’ll ask it again! ;) Does Porter’s run for Senate mean she’s lost her seat in the House? Pretty sure it does. :\

  32. 32.

    NaijaGal

    @JWR: Yes it does. With 60% of the vote reported, Scott Baugh (R – 33.3%) is ahead in the race for Porter’s old seat followed by David Min (D – 25.4%), Joanna Weiss (D – 18.8%), and Max Ukropina (R – 14.9%).  We’ll know more about who advances in CA’s 47th congressional district tomorrow.

  33. 33.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    The ratfucking radio news is going on about how immigration is the main concern of voters today, with 25% of voters believing that it is a major problem. Hmmm… 25%? That’s right in the neighborhood of the Crazification Factor, I mean the percentage of TFG voters. Really, they were going on about what 25% of the country is concerned about. IOW, our national nightmare known as our media have absolutely nothing to drag Biden down about.

    Inflation had dropped below Fed concern level (<2%) last I heard, employment is up, up and up, pay is up and the markets are humming a happy tune, TFG is losing his train of thought mid-sentence and outright forgetting words, is dealing with multiple felony charges, is being sued by his partners in his abortion of a social media platform and on and on and on and all the press can do is take one shot after another at Biden.

    They don’t report the news because they are spending all of their time creating absolute shit and shoveling it to us.

    Oh, and FUCK the fucking conservative New York Times.

  34. 34.

    A woman from anywhere (formerly Mohagan)

    @Shalimar: Don’t worry, he won’t be.  I saw Steve Karnacki looking at vote totals from different counties, and even in Orange County, Garvey wasn’t very impressive.  It’ll be Sen. Schiff.

  35. 35.

    Will

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: It’s a loaded question when they ask voters to list the topics that concern them the most. I rate immigration as high on my concerns, but not because I am afraid of it or in fear of the crazy stuff some are, but because I am concerned we aren’t doing enough to allow more legal immigration. I’ve been screaming since the mid 2000s that if you come to the United States to go to college and you graduate with a 2.0 GPA or above, we should hand you a citizenship card with your diploma. I’m so worried we aren’t doing enough that I’d compromise to just a green card to start with if that would get it support.

  36. 36.

    AlaskaReader

    @Odie Hugh Manatee: A couple of national monopolies have bought up nearly all the local news television in Alaska, doesn’t matter if you tune to ABC NBC CBS etc, the ‘news’ is the exact same programming.

    Each day the ‘news’ program starts with fear and a featured Republican, some talking heads that no one has ever heard of before with their ‘take’ on the national news, (again, with Republican highlights), then weather, then canned economic fearmongering disguised as a segment called ‘minding your wallet’, a touch of local sports.  Rinse and repeat, all the same on each every single network.

    Gray TV and Sinclair may do more subtle damage than Fox, people watching this stuff don’t even see it for what it is.

  38. 38.

    Will

    @AlaskaReader: Don’t forget the random joint fundraisers with a local car dealership, or the joint 4th of July Fireworks with a local car dealership, or the joint Christmas Tree lighting with a local car dealership, or the… hehe

  44. 44.

    AlaskaReader

    Breathless Super Tuesday press coverage Alaska

    Trump voters seemed especially enthusiastic at Grace Church in South Anchorage, one of four voting locations in the city. 

    Retiree Jim White was astounded there was any question who he voted for.

    “TRUMP! What the hell?” he said. “Do you think I’m crazy? … Because everything he accomplished was for the nation, for the citizens and for the world. OK?”

    White said he only heard of the election the day before

  46. 46.

    AlaskaReader

    Another Super Tuesday Alaskan speaks his mind:

    president Trump has done so much for this nation. He stopped the Paris Accords, He returned America”s wealth to her from hoodwinking globalists. He defunded the WHO.

    He worked without a paycheck.

  47. 47.

    Odie Hugh Manatee

    @AlaskaReader:

    We don’t think he’s crazy, we know he is. Fucking zealots hiding behind their fake religious front. I wonder how the conservatives in the Texas panhandle are enjoying everything burning down while Governor Hot Wheels keeps putting off a disaster declaration because he claims he needs totals of damage before asking for help.

    I would feel sorry for them but they have been doing a great job of feeling sorry for themselves for decades, so no sympathy from me. I heard that over 70% of them did not have insurance and now they have lost everything.

    Good thing for them that the Texas Department of Agriculture has a program to help them restore their facilities on their farms. Too bad that it’s funded with donations…lol!

  51. 51.

    Sid

    @JWR:

    I hated Garvey and I hated those Dodger teams, more than I’ve ever hated the Yankees (who I was taught to hate around the time I learned to throw a baseball)- him and Lasorda were insufferable.

  52. 52.

    Ohio Mom

    @Will: That isn’t how polls work. You are being counted in with the people who think we are being invaded by brown people.

    Your answer would be fine in something like a focus group though.

  54. 54.

    zhena gogolia

    @Citizen Alan: Co-sign. I just hope they aren’t going to lose us the presidential election. That will be great for the Palestinians. I’m sure Trump will cut off aid to Israel on day one and create an independent Palestinian state from the river to the sea.

  55. 55.

    Sid

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    In a United States with sane representation, i.e. a United States where voters in California and Wyoming had equal representation in the Senate, Schiff, Lee, and Porter would all be in the Senate.

  56. 56.

    Sid

    @Will:

    I have a lot of empathy for Arab Americans with family in harms way in Gaza. But even here in Michigan, Palestinian Americans are minority of Arab Americans and a much smaller minority of ‘uncommitted’. And while many, maybe even most, have their hearts in the right place, I’ve interacted with many (presumably leftists) who want to do the performative anti-Democrat act they do every 4 years, this time to the tune of ‘Genocide Joe’.

    Fuck them.

  58. 58.

    lowtechcyclist

    The guy who won American Samoa has more delegates (3) than DropOutDean (0).

  59. 59.

    Soprano2

    @Will: I can’t stand those people either. I call them the “say ceasefire 100 times a day” people. Like Mehdi Hassan, they seem to believe Biden has a magic wand he can magically wave to stop all of it. Hassan is disappointing, because I think he knows better.

  61. 61.

    MomSense

    @Sid:

    I really don’t understand how they think Joe Biden can stop it.  I know we provide assistance to Israel but even if that were to stop, Netanyahu would not.

  62. 62.

    Geminid

    From a Politico article titled,”Senate Majority PAC drops $2 million ad hitting Republican Eric Hovde”:

       “Multi-millionaire California banker Eric Hovde: On Wisconsin’s side? Don’t bank on it.”

  63. 63.

    Ken

    @NotMax: That was my reaction too, though I had to google to recall the name “Martha Coakley”.

    Also I’m not really seeing how this could have been a Democrat vs. Democrat general election. The three top Dems took 58.5% of the vote, so if that had been split among two, they’d both have been just behind Garvey. Though there’s that stray 12% that didn’t go to any of the four of them.

  65. 65.

    Geminid

    @Geminid: This morning’s Politico Playbook focused some on Texas Republican primaries, where a fight between factions led by Attorney General Paxton and establishment-types played out. Beaumont Representative and House Speaker Dan Phelan will face a runoff with a Paxton ally.

    Congressman Anthony Gonzalez did not break 50% and will face Brandon Herrera in a Rio Grande Valley runoff. Mr. Herrera is a “firearms salesman and YouTube personality.”

  66. 66.

    Brachiator

    @dmsilev:

    Looks like Haley is done.

    She has to play nice to remain a Republican, but I think her political career may be over even if she indicates that she fully embraces Trump. Right now, Trumpism is unforgiving, and she dared defy the GOP Dear Leader.

  69. 69.

    Ken

    @dmsilev: For a while I thought Haley being in meant that Trump would have to make more public appearances, which can only be good for Democrats now that his condition is getting more obvious. But then I remembered, toxic narcissism; so I expect he won’t cut back on the roar of the greasepaint and the smell of the crowd.

  70. 70.

    Brachiator

    @dmsilev:

    Her only real hope of a political future is if Trump crashes and burns.

    She doesn’t have a political future even if the Republican Party crashes and burns.

    It may be a long time before the GOP detaches itself from Trumpism.

  71. 71.

    Geminid

    @pluky: Yes, I was talking about the Texas Gonzales, the one representing Texas’s 23rd CD

    The Ohio Rep. Gonzalez was one of the 10 House Republican Impeachers. He retired, and now Max Miller represents the Cleveland area district.

  74. 74.

    comrade scotts agenda of rage

    @Sid:
     

    I hated Garvey and I hated those Dodger teams, more than I’ve ever hated the Yankees (who I was taught to hate around the time I learned to throw a baseball)- him and Lasorda were insufferable.

    In the words of the late, great Steve Gilliard:
    Fuck the Fucking Yankees.
    But I’ve always called the Dodgers the Fucking Yankees of the West Coast for obvious reasons.

  75. 75.

    Geminid

    Laura Rozen reposted this from Aaron Fritchsner:

    Virginia 538 average: Trump +49

    Virginia results, 89% in): Trump +28

    Trump has underperformed polling in several states so far, I think. I don’t know how bad this is for Trump, but it may say something about the polling, and/or the 538 site’s selectivity.

  76. 76.

    SFAW

    @pluky:

    The Tony Gonzalez Republican is from Ohio, and not running this cycle.

    I heard he’s been working out, so that the KC Chiefs will re-hire him. He and Kelce as tight ends on the same team? With Mahomes? Outstanding!

  77. 77.

    Glory b

    @Shalimar: No, this strategy has been a winner every time it was used. The party would burn through lots of cash having 2 Dems run against each other in a state the size of CA. Now it can be used in other races.

    Maddow is smart but not infallible.

  79. 79.

    Shalimar

    @zhena gogolia: Trump will deport the Palestinians to living on barges no country will allow to dock, while Kushner turns Gaza into a large tract of luxury condo developments.  But sure, protest Biden for not doing enough.

  80. 80.

    evodevo

    @Will: Yeah…and whatever happened to serving in the US military and getting on the track to citizenship?  Is it still a thing, or did Trumpy do away with that, too? I mean, even the Romans had that policy.

  81. 81.

    JaneE

    I would have been happy with any of the top Democrats, but Schiff seems more focused on getting the garbage out.  Porter needs to be in a position where she can enforce and influence regulation of white collar type corruption and crime, IMO.  IRS fraud squad maybe?

  84. 84.

    Paul in KY

    @Sid: Boy did I hate Lasorda.  Garvey too! Had no problem with Davey Lopes and coveted their pitching staff.

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