Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Within six months Twitter will be fully self-driving.

Republican also-rans: four mules fighting over a turnip.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

This must be what justice looks like, not vengeful, just peaceful exuberance.

The truth is, these are not very bright guys, and things got out of hand.

The press swings at every pitch, we don’t have to.

Welcome to day five of every-bit-as-bad-as-you-thought-it-would-be.

Consistently wrong since 2002

Accused of treason; bitches about the ratings. I am in awe.

rich, arrogant assholes who equate luck with genius

My right to basic bodily autonomy is not on the table. that’s the new deal.

Their freedom requires your slavery.

Republicans are radicals, not conservatives.

Optimism opens the door to great things.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Narcissists are always shocked to discover other people have agency.

Our messy unity will be our strength.

Decision time: keep arguing about the last election, or try to win the next one?

When I was faster i was always behind.

The only way through is to slog through the muck one step at at time.

The most dangerous place for a black man in America is in a white man’s imagination.

Be a wild strawberry.

New McCarthy, same old McCarthyism.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

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Charles Blow, in the NYTimes — “The Kamala Harris Moment Has Arrived”: [gift link]

… Vice President Harris has served nearly a full term alongside President Biden, and she is moving into another moment when the political stars are aligned for her as the perfect messenger on a subject that has fixed Americans’ attention and is central in the 2024 presidential campaign: reproductive rights.

This time, her target is Donald Trump. And being in a position to go on the offensive is something of a reversal of fortune for a vice president who has endured withering — often unfair — attacks and who struggled to define herself in the role…

Criticisms of Harris have been relentless, ranging from legitimate challenges to her policy statements to ridiculous commentary about her laugh. Much of it has seemed tinged with gender bias.

And she remains a source of concern, a perceived vulnerability to Biden’s re-election. In March, the Washington Post columnist Kathleen Parker wrote that Harris should bow out for the sake of the country, absurdly comparing her to Sarah Palin in 2008.

Over and over in her failed run for this year’s Republican nomination, Nikki Haley pointed to the possibility of a future Harris presidency as a scare tactic, saying in an August interview on “Good Morning America”: “There is no way Joe Biden is going to finish his term. I think Kamala Harris is going to be the next president, and that should send a chill up every American’s spine.”

But the Supreme Court’s overturning of Roe v. Wade and Republicans’ lust to enact increasingly regressive policies to restrict reproductive rights in states across the country have made Harris’s voice an essential one in the campaign.

In December, Harris announced her nationwide Fight for Reproductive Freedoms tour.

In March, she became what is believed to be the first vice president to pay an official visit to an abortion clinic (no president has done so), when she visited a Planned Parenthood clinic in St. Paul, Minn.

No matter how sensitive and knowledgeable men try to be on the issue of reproductive rights, there are still things that we cannot fully connect to. Harris transcends that barrier not only because she’s a woman but also because of her background as a prosecutor…

Harris may never be duly recognized for her contributions to the administration on a broad range of issues, but in the end that may not be her calling.

According to her office, since Roe was overturned, the vice president has held “more than 80 convenings in 20 states.” Being a trusted voice in favor of reproductive rights and against Republicans determined to restrict or eliminate them may be the greater contribution she can make to Biden’s re-election bid and to maintaining national stability.

With this issue, she has hit her stride. With it, the talk of her as a liability has been hushed, for some, by the clear realization of what she brings to the campaign. With it, Harris has a mission, and she’s on it.

Kamala Harris hadn’t even started building up to her ending when the crowd in Las Vegas — more fired up than any poll would suggest — started chanting, “Four more years!” But she made sure everyone heard the line she’s come up with: “Trump abortion bans.”

And not one pro-Palestinian protester interrupted her that day, or, for that matter, over her four-day campaign swing West.

The vice president is clearly feeling energized these days. She is more engaged. She is looser. Aides say she was the one who pushed to explicitly call out former President Donald Trump as responsible for every rollback in abortion rights, and she is clearly feeding on the old prosecutorial rush of tearing apart the opposition’s argument…

“She has been front and center on so many of the most politically potent issues right now,” said Julie Chavez Rodriguez, who was a top aide to Harris for years before becoming the Biden reelection campaign manager, calling these “new opportunities to speak to the coalitions we know she already has a deep affinity to, but on issues that are top of mind for those voters.”

“As a former prosecutor, she can prosecute the case on so much,” Rodriguez said.

It means getting to talk about gun control and reaching out to younger voters like the gym full of high schoolers in Vegas who cheered even more loudly for her than they did when Marvel actress Xochitl Gomez took the stage first. (“She’s killing it!” an excited 15-year-old in a Barbie-pink denim jacket exclaimed after pushing up to take a photo with Harris as Aretha Franklin’s “Respect” played on the speakers.)…

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  5. 5.

    Math Guy

    I love Harris: she was my first choice during the 2020 primaries. I hope to see her as president after Biden finishes his second term.

  7. 7.

    Baud

    @Math Guy:

    I’m both dreading and looking forward to the 2028 primary.  There’ll be a lot of talent on display.

    I’ll feel bad crushing them all.

  11. 11.

    Anne Laurie

    @Math Guy: I hope to see her as president after Biden finishes his second term.

    Even if I didn’t think she’ll be a great President some day, I’d want her to win just to watch the people who hate her lose their collective minds.

    Kathleen Parker, for instance, will be put on suicide watch… and Nate Silver may be taken down by the Secret Service for suspicious behavior at her inauguration.

  13. 13.

    RaflW

    I appreciated the Blow column, but sweet lord do not read the column’s comment thread. There are certainly some good words, but there’s so much misogyny and racism, too.

  16. 16.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Baud:

    To be fair, Trump would melt if he got wet. 

    No, the piss-colored, cotton candy shit on his disgusting, orange, fascist head would dissolve.

    And he would want to suck Putin’s ass for comfort.

  20. 20.

    mrmoshpotato

    OT – Norm MacDonald totally savaged murderer OJ Simpson back in the 90’s.  May Norm RIP.  May OJ burn in Hell!

  22. 22.

    Percysowner

    @Baud: ​
     One thing that isn’t talked about a lot is how Biden is helping promote the next generation of Democratic leaders, many of whom ran against him in the primary. He has put Harris front and center helping cement her ability to lead. He gave Buttigieg a high profile spot in the administration allowing him to get recognition for his talent and making him more than just “Mayor Pete”. Biden knows he is old and that part of his job is to keep young, talent in the party and in the eyes of the country.

  24. 24.

    Barbara

    Kamala Harris has approximately the same professional background that many male candidates for president have had — prosecutor, state AG and then U.S. Senate.  Any notion that she is not “qualified” is due to misogyny pure and simple.

    By contrast, Nikki Haley is an accountant by training who was elected briefly to the South Carolina house and became governor for a term, and then served as U.N. ambassador.  How, exactly, does that make her more qualified than Harris?

  25. 25.

    geg6

    She was not at the top of my list during the 2020 primary, but I had nothing against her except I didn’t feel she had the chops to win yet.  And I still believe I was right about that.  But the four years as VP to a president who is knowledgeable, generous and trusts her has shown she is adaptable, smart and growing in confidence and well rounded ability.  I have no qualms about her now.  She’s definitely ready.

  26. 26.

    hells littlest angel

     “There is no way Joe Biden is going to finish his term. I think Kamala Harris is going to be the next president, and that should send a chill up every American’s spine.”

     

    Words to remember if you’re ever tempted to think that Nikki Haley is anything but a gaping asshole.

  29. 29.

    David 🏀Caitlin Clark🏀 Koch

    💵💰👑

    Caitlin Clark is on the cusp of breaking another record as the former Iowa star is set to sign a historic deal with Nike.

    On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal and The Athletic reported a pending eight-year, $28million contract, including a signature shoe. The deal would give Clark the richest sponsorship contract for a women’s basketball player.

    ***

    She’s been the main driver for the dramatic uptick in women’s basketball interest with her mix of deep 3-point shots, flashy thread-the-needle passes and overall court presence.

    **

    Clark’s marketability is enhanced by her polished performances in media settings, and her surprise appearance on Saturday Night Live two weeks ago was widely acclaimed and exposed her to an even wider audience.

  30. 30.

    Barbara

    @hells littlest angel: Nikki Haley long ago internalized the racism and associated dog whistles necessary to succeed in South Carolina politics as a Republican.  Can I say it for the hundredth time — She stood on a podium with Herschel Walker and said that Raphael Warnock should be deported.  She is revolting.

  31. 31.

    hells littlest angel

    @Baud:It’s nice to see at least some media folks giving her good press.

     

    This has long been my go-to blog for a dose of optimism.

  32. 32.

    Jackie

    @geg6: Thankfully Biden saw what others didn’t.

    She was my first choice, but Biden turned out to be the best choice! MVP has truly blossomed into her role with his full support and encouragement.

  33. 33.

    Dan B

    Thanks very much for your post on Kamala.  She and the Second Gentleman rock!  It’s great to see him let her have the spotlight.

  34. 34.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @Barbara:

    How, exactly, does that make her more qualified than Harris?

    Nikki Haley knows she’s a sidekick.  That is the most important qualification any minority* can have.

    *Republicans think women are a minority.

  35. 35.

    Josie

    Thanks for this, Anne Laurie. Kamala was my first choice and Biden second only to her. She will be an excellent president some day. I hope to live long enough to see it.

  38. 38.

    lowtechcyclist

    @Baud:

    Rocky in the media, maybe. Just like with Biden. We knew better.

    This. As veep, she’s been doing the work all along.  Good to see some media people finally noticing what we’ve been seeing for years.  She’d be a terrific President.

  39. 39.

    Martin

    I kept trying to tell you. She’s a good fit with Biden because they’re both so good at connecting with people. But she’s got a different style to what we’re used to – she’s a black woman, so of course she will – but it’s a really great style.

  40. 40.

    Jeffro

    meanwhile out in RWNJ Fantasy Land/the Empire of Hackdom/Both, our favorite “ambulatory cream-cheese sculpture”* thinks that by putting Smilin’ Glenn Youngkin or Doug (Hey…I’m Rich!) Burgum on the ticket as VP will set up a contrast with current awesome VP Harris that…

    …that…

    …I dunno, I got nothin’.  Hugh thinks that Youngkin or Burgum will outweigh trumpov’s daily televised decline?  Oh my.

    *h/t to Betty, I think?  =)

    I get the notion that HH would want to try and “shift the discourse” and/or fight on more favorable terrain.  But this ain’t it.

    A few months ago, it might have seemed likely that Trump would choose a military veteran as his vice president, with the intention of solidifying his hold on any wavering veterans from 2020, when 6 out of 10 reported voting for him.

    (note that this is 1) a bare majority and 2) people who “reported” voting for him.  but I digress…)

    But then the world spent days on the edge of an enormous regional conflict after Iran attacked Israel directly for the first time.  Serious people — including the portion of the American electorate concerned about national security — know a dangerous development when they see it. Trump may well now consider hawkish voters so securely in his camp that the former president will reach further afield for a running mate.

    That could explain why, over the past week or so, I have repeatedly heard two names mentioned as rising in both Trumpworld and establishment GOP circles: Virginia Gov Youngkin and North Dakota Gov Burgum.

    Trump and Republicans generally need a sharp contrast between these understudies so that voters will see a clear choice. Some voters — not just hardcore Republicans — must have shuddered at the thought of Vice President Harris’s participation in the White House Situation Room meeting during Iran’s assault on Israel. At least her presence was needed only by ‘secure video’ and not in person.

    FU, Hewitt.  Just absolutely FU.  Enjoy your room in hell next to Limbaugh’s joint (and hopefully soon)

    This isn’t to discount that possibility that Trump will ultimately go with a military veteran and try to move that 6 out of 10 veterans to 7 or 8 out of 10. A short list of possible contenders would include veterans such as Sens. Tom Cotton or Joni Ernst.  Mike Pompeo, a graduate of the U.S. Military Academy, former secretary of state and former CIA director; and Robert O’ Brien former national security adviser.

    The decision will come down to who seems best suited to helping Trump flip the equivalent of those 45,000 swing-state voters who went for Biden in 2020. Unlike in that election, when the candidates were four years younger and the world in a less volatile state, voters may well take a much harder look at the running mates and think: When trouble starts, which one can I confidently picture in the Situation Room?

    YESSSSSSSSS…surely that is what MAGA nation will be thinking when they go into the voting booth, Hugh!  The Veep pick.

    (narrator: no they won’t)

    Let’s get real: trump is going to limp the absolute fuck into the RNC this summer, broke as hell and looking for someone who can tap into vast amounts of $$$ that he can skim for his many legal follies.  That’s what Hewitt’s trying to suggest here: Youngkin and Burgum can help pull in enough money to at least avoid a blowout.  Meanwhile, trump no doubt just wants a telegenic/hot/both VP.

    I wish them well trying to square that circle.  Meanwhile, stock up on popcorn futures!

    Oh, and FU one more time, Hewitt.

  41. 41.

    FastEdD

    KH will kick ass, but do it with a smile. She is always engaging, but she thinks about what she says first. That’s why we (CA Dem delegates) endorsed her for US Senate.

  42. 42.

    Barbara

    @Jeffro: Noted foreign policy and defense experts Doug Burgum and Glenn Youngkin.  The presumption of male competence whatever the issue is just nauseating.

  43. 43.

    Jeffro

    @Barbara: I hear you but what Hewitt’s saying is even dumber: “trump’s got the national defense thing covered already!  We just need some swing voters to base their decision solely on Harris vs Youngkin/Burgum…and for that to fall in our favor”

    What he’s NOT saying is, “we need Youngkin or Burgum for the big-dollar donors they can (presumably) pull in to keep us from getting destroyed”

  44. 44.

    The Thin Black Duke

    The presumption of male competence whatever the issue is just nauseating.

    (mic drop)

  47. 47.

    Bill Arnold

    @Math Guy:

    I love Harris: she was my first choice during the 2020 primaries.

    Likewise; she was my first choice all of 2019, and Biden/Harris in early 2020.

  48. 48.

    Wapiti

    @Jeffro: 20% of US military are female, mostly 18-38 years old. There’s no chance that Trump gets 80% of the current military. (Now, former military includes a lot of draft era veterans, but they’re 70 and older. Fewer of them each year.)

  49. 49.

    smith

    @Barbara: Kamala Harris at this point in her career has more foreign policy experience than Clinton, Bush II, Obama, or Trump did when they took office. Also more experience in national politics than Clinton, Bush II or Trump. And, frankly, more executive experience than Obama, and with Trump’s executive experience highly iffy since it was all fraudulent.

  50. 50.

    MattF

    @Jeffro: But have either Youngkin or Burgum sworn absolute loyalty and prostrated themselves before The Orange One? This is the only thing that actually matters. I don’t know, but a certain someone does know.

  51. 51.

    Math Guy

    BTW, it bothers me to see reports of trump’s postings on his social media platform referred to as “truthings.” There is no connection to an actual truth. Could we call them something else? Toots, perhaps?

  59. 59.

    Soprano2

    @Jeffro: It’s amazing how Hugh assumes that because there is war in the Middle East voters will automatically want the guy who cozies up to dictators and wonders why we don’t use nukes. 🙄🙄🙄

  60. 60.

    What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?

    @Baud: My wife has a vet in the family who was a Trump supporter until January 6. That day turned him on Trump and I’m pretty sure he’s not the only vet that feels that way.

  62. 62.

    MattF

    The Senate is currently passing yet another procedural hurdle. Senators are lingering in the well, so, possibly, this business will be wound up tonight.

  64. 64.

    mrmoshpotato

    @Math Guy:

    BTW, it bothers me to see reports of trump’s postings on his social media platform referred to as “truthings.” There is no connection to an actual truth. Could we call them something else? Toots, perhaps? 

    Suckings of Kremlin asshole?

  65. 65.

    smith

    OT — various news orgs are reporting that the Secret Service is in talks with prison officials about plans for if/when TFG is given jail or prison time. Michael Popak describes this as the latest glass ceiling to be broken in the quest to bring him to justice, overcoming a series of barriers that existed because people didn’t want to believe indicting/arraigning/trying/imprisoning him was even possible. I agree — the barriers here have been no more than failures of imagination.

  66. 66.

    Matt McIrvin

    @Math Guy: “Toots” was the standard name for posts on Mastodon until the main developer learned it was an English synonym for farting.

  67. 67.

    Jeffro

    @MattF: he will indeed be looking for loyalty above all else, so Glenn or Doug could be a hard sell (although both have kissed the ring in the past couple of months)

    I still think that if it’s up to trump, he picks Noem, Stefanik, or Britt (despite the post-SOTU Britt faceplant); if Susie Wiles can influence him enough, it could well be one of the big-money guys like Youngkin or Burgum.  Even she…maybe especially she…can see what’s going to happen if things continue on their current course, financially speaking.

  69. 69.

    Jeffro

    @Soprano2: right??  As opposed to the guy (and his team) who so adeptly have kept an all-out Israel-Iran war from breaking out (and have kept US troops out of things to date)?

    trump would have told Israel “go for broke and we’ll have your back”…real tough-guy shit.  Where would we be if THAT had happened?  (don’t think about it too much – I try not to)

  70. 70.

    frosty

    @Math Guy: ​There is no connection to an actual truth. Could we call them something else? Toots, perhaps?

    Given recent developments, might I suggest we call them “Poots”?​

  74. 74.

    Ruckus

    @Wapiti:

    I considered Harris to be presidential material long ago. She’s rather smart, she works hard and is a very good democrat. It is way past time that female genitalia stops being considered debilitating as a condition of presidential office holding. Because she would be better at the job than a number of the men that have been president in my very nearly 3/4 of a century and serving during that war you mentioned.

    I’ll vote for her if she is the candidate and I hope she is while I’m still here to vote.

  75. 75.

    HumboldtBlue

    Whoever recommended Blue Eye Samurai (I think it was Leto), thanks, it’s fantastic.

  76. 76.

    Ruckus

    @Math Guy:

    That’s because he posts on Not Much Truth Social. It is a full blast lie that allows him to say he’s truthing. Also where does it say that truthing is actually telling the truth? SFB is involved and the truth isn’t within a lot of miles of him. It always runs away screaming when he shows up. It may be genetically impossible for him to say, write or understand any truth whatsoever.

  79. 79.

    Ruckus

    @Scout211:

    I’m going to have to be a bit crude here.

    I vote for shits. And apparently they stink a lot. They stink a shit ton as it were.

  81. 81.

    Kay

    danielnichania

    RESULT: Summer Lee, the 1st Squad member to face a contested primary this year, has prevailed in PA12. AP just called it as Lee leads easily, with margin likely to continue growing. She faced Bhavini Patel, who took issue with Lee’s left-wing politics and criticism of Israel, and had support from conservative mega donor Jeffrey Yass.

  84. 84.

    Torrey

    Many thanks for the MVP thread. I loved the video with the “My VP looks like me” t-shirt.
    Charles Blow: “Republicans’ lust to enact increasingly regressive policies to restrict reproductive rights. . .” Among the many reasons to read Charles Blow: the man is a consummate wordsmith. The way he just dropped the word “lust” into that sentence [chef’s kiss].

    Re TFG’s VP pick, it’s worth remembering that he chose Pence because he looked the part and wouldn’t outshine Trump himself. It’s at times like these I kind of wish I was a conservative pundit with TFG’s ear. One could play holy havoc with Trump’s choices by saying things like, “Wise choice: Youngkin gives off youthful vibes, which will be important as he’s standing next to the older president.” or “The great thing about Burgum is that he’s not the sort of man to stand around doing nothing. He’ll be energizing the base and preparing to move into the presidency in 2028–or sooner, if it comes to that–from day one.” or “President Trump is wise to not to allow some of [X’s] off-the-cuff critical remarks about him to stand in the way of selecting this outstanding candidate as his vice-presidential pick.”

  85. 85.

    Another Scott

    Looks like it’s done.

    79:18

    I ass-u-me that Biden will sign it tonight.

    They’re racing through stuff for judges now.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  86. 86.

    Ken

    @Jeffro: Hewitt: “That could explain why, over the past week or so, I have repeatedly heard two names mentioned as rising in both Trumpworld and establishment GOP circles”

    Wow, in both his bubbles? I can hardly think of a better metric for the mood of the nation, except perhaps lawn signs in Westchester gated communities.

  87. 87.

    Baud

    @Kay:

    establishment-backed groups

    Huh?

    ETA: Don’t know about Jefferies, but Pelosi would never support a primary challenge to an incumbent.

  88. 88.

    Eyeroller

    @kalakal: My dad (born 1920) taught me “beans, beans, the musical fruit, the more you eat the more you toot. The more you toot the happier you feel, so eat your beans with every meal.”

  89. 89.

    Ken

    @smith:  the Secret Service is in talks with prison officials about plans for if/when TFG is given jail or prison time.

    Normally I’m against solitary confinement, but I have to admit having such cells provides an elegant solution to this problem.

  90. 90.

    Scout211

    @smith: That makes sense with his constant violations of the gag order.  A night in jail could be right around the corner. Even one night in jail for gag order violations would be a huge undertaking for the jail and for his secret service protection.

    ETA: And prison confinement would be even more huge an undertaking.

  91. 91.

    kalakal

    @Ken:

    Normally I’m against solitary confinement,

    Can you imagine being the poor sod sharing a cell with him? Cruel and unusual doesn’t even begin to describe it…

  92. 92.

    smith

    @kalakal: I’m sure it’s the Secret Service agents who will get that cruel and unusual punishment, but it’s the same punishment they endure daily, albeit in nicer surroundings.

  93. 93.

    Jeffro

    @Ken:

    @kalakal:

    call me crazy, but if trumpov gets sent to a cell for contempt of court, it’s not completely unreasonable to think that one of his Secret Service agents goes, “fuck this…I’m out of here”

    (not out of fear; out of principle)

    well…that’s what happens in the movie version, anyway…

  95. 95.

    Scout211

    ABC is reporting that the talks with Secret Service are specifically about short-term jail time for gag order violations and they are not yet talking about prison if there is a conviction.

    The U.S. Secret Service held meetings and started planning for what to do if former President Donald Trump were to be held in contempt in his criminal hush money trial and Judge Juan Merchan opted to send him to short-term confinement, officials familiar with the situation told ABC News.

    Merchan on Tuesday reserved decision on the matter after a contentious hearing. Prosecutors said at this point they are seeking a fine.

    “We are not yet seeking an incarceratory penalty,” assistant district attorney Chris Conroy said, “But the defendant seems to be angling for that.”

    Officials do not necessarily believe Merchan would put Trump in a holding cell in the courthouse but they are planning for contingencies, the officials said.

    There have not been discussions yet about what to do if Trump is convicted and sentenced to prison.

  96. 96.

    Geminid

    @Ken: Hew Hewitt is what I would call a Wall Street Journal Republican. While I don’t know that much about Burghum, I’ve watched Youngkin and he’s right up Hewitt’s alley. And Hewitt wants the Republicans to win this fall and that means he needs Trump to win. A politically attractive running mate could help, and in a close election make the difference.

    Hewitt is also a salesman and he’s obviously slinging a lot of bullshit here, trying to make the sale. But Youngkin at least would be a good pick, I think. Trump campaign managers Wiles and LaCivita might think so too, and so might a normal presidential candidate.

    Fortunately, Trump is not a normal candidate. He doesn’t want to believe he needs a strong running mate, and while Youngkin has strengths that I think complement Trump’s, that’s the last thing Trump would want to hear.

    Youngkin’s an asshole, but he’s also a very slick and plausible politician. I think Trump can see that, and will find somene else that he knows can’t outshine him.

  98. 98.

    SFAW

    But she made sure everyone heard the line she’s come up with: “Trump abortion bans.”

    But-but-but according to alleged jackal “TrollisPossible,” Obama and Biden banned abortion before TFG did. In fact, there’s NO difference between the positions of the two sides. Except that TFG didn’t really want to ban abortion. Or something.
    Or so I would assume, based on his/her ranting in the “Righteousness” thread.

    Yeah, yeah, I know … “STFU SFAW!!! Do you want him/her to pollute this thread, too??? STFU!!!”

  99. 99.

    wjca

    @Matt McIrvin: “Toots” was the standard name for posts on Mastodon until the main developer learned it was an English synonym for farting.

    So, for “Truth” Social, the appropriate label would appear to be twats.  (That it so nearly resembles “tweets” is just a happy coincidence.)

  100. 100.

    Msb

    Gee, has Kathleen Parker ever been right about anything?

    @ wjca

    Can we avoid using slang for female genitalia as a pejorative?

  103. 103.

    Matt McIrvin

    @smith: It sounds to me as if Trump is actually more likely to be jailed for contempt than to be convicted in this case. Teri Kanefield says the prosecution is screwing it up, using a theory of Trump’s crime that is unlikely to result in a felony conviction (she cites a NYT article by Jed Shugerman as support), and also seems frustrated that there *is* a theory that would work that they’re not using:

    mastodon.social/@Teri_Kanefield/112323727567932250

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