I see everything is still very normal in America. https://t.co/C4z5NNILUe
— Jean-Michel Connard ??? (@torriangray) May 21, 2024
How reassuring are we supposed to find it that the Trump staff is so immersed in Nazi-adjacent meme-work that it just kind of slipped-in unnoticed? pic.twitter.com/O8cV6CNJjn
— Matthew Yglesias (@mattyglesias) May 21, 2024
It's so funny how people go looking for and create the most absurd examples of secret symbology of evil in liberal media but when Trump puts (UNIFIED REICH) into one of his campaign promo videos it's nbd, just some edgy staffer, not indicative of anything https://t.co/BRk8UrtYBy
— Sam (ABeardedPanda) (@ABeardedPanda) May 21, 2024
The thing about the Unified Reich video is while I'd believe that Grandpa Trump had no idea what's going on, it's absolutely representative of the staffers in their 20s-30s that would fill his White House. Young Republicans are freaks.
— That Well-Adjusted Biden Guy (@What46HasDone) May 21, 2024
You see they accidentally posted a nazi thing because one of their supporters is a nazi. It's hard to avoid when so many of his supporters are nazis. Stop being so unfair!! https://t.co/U6w8p7JZ41
— Jean-Michel Connard ??? (@torriangray) May 21, 2024
The great danger of Trump admin 2.0 is that he’s gotten rid of all the normie GOP bureaucrats who’d show him positive news clipping to distract him from nuking Iran and the second presidency will be run exclusively by guys who identify politically as “heydrichpilled”
— Houthi and the Blowfish #WormGang?? (@canderaid) May 21, 2024
all of the people who will be implementing the fundamentally disinterested executive's orders will be literal nazis. this is fine though. im a leftist https://t.co/Fe7H4L36Rj
— caillou harkonnen (@revhowardarson) May 21, 2024
Another thing about this terrible tweet is that the modern American right *isn't* uniquely American. There are similar rightist parties to popping up all over Europe and in many ways the Trump GOP has more in common with right-wing Euro movements than the historical GOP https://t.co/8j9W4kiiqK
— Swann Marcus (@SwannMarcus89) May 21, 2024
I think we sort of underrated—or at least underdiscuss—the impact that more-or-less the entire GOP staffer class being straight-up Nazi freaks is going to have on American politics over the next decade or so https://t.co/sCCK5MYS7Z
— vituperativeerb (@vituperativeerb) May 21, 2024
If we lose our republic to autocracy, history will record that the media was complicit. TRUMP posted this, not his social media account. WTF is wrong with you people!?! The Trump campaign denies it was him? A staffer has access to his account? Just take his word for it. pic.twitter.com/AsCPpTYYkW
— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) May 21, 2024
Ishiyama
“Mice studying to be rats.”
Jay
Apparently, according to public statements by TIFG, only TIFG and Dan Scavino can post on his “Truth Social” account.
So, they are trying to pull an Alito’s Wife gambit.
Roberto el oso
@Jay: Man, she gets around, doesn’t she?
Yutsano
Pity our poor MSM. They’re running into news that they can’t do “both sides” on and they just don’t know what to do with themselves. But they can’t report this honestly oh no no! That could get them tarred with horrific epithet of “liberal bias” and that just won’t do. So they’re stuck in neutral.
Jay
@Roberto el oso:
are you insinuating she’s a whore?
it would be irresponsible not to speculate,……
SpaceUnit
The right is so intoxicated with their Biden is senile and unpopular memes that they can’t stop digging their own hole. Keep it up boys. Fly that swastika flag. November is coming.
Steeplejack
Re Ron Filipkowski’s Tweet: Someone pointed out on Twitter earlier that Trump is on record—maybe even in a legal filing or deposition—as saying that only he and one other person, Dan Scavino, have posting access on his Truth Social account. So the “low-level minion did an oopsie” defense looks a little shaky.
Plus it doesn’t matter. Once the thing gets out there, it spreads like wildfire among his base, and when it gets deleted and/or disavowed they all have a knowing “wink, wink, say no more” laugh about it.
ETA: What Jay said at #2.
strange visitor (from another planet)
@SpaceUnit: they’re supposed to wait ’til AFTER the election to start pulling this shit.
it’s like, they did dobbs before they got rid of a woman’s right to vote, too.
they’re REALLY not sending us their best or brightest nazis.
NotMax
@Steeplejack
No discernible reason this statement should not be treated as yet another lie.
Regardless, firmly of the belief nothing gets posted to that account without passing in front of his eyes and being given approval first.
Tony Jay
SpaceUnit
@strange visitor (from another planet):
These types of political movements have no throttle or brakes.
SpaceUnit
@strange visitor (from another planet):
These types of political movements have no throttle or brakes.
SpaceUnit
Thanks for the fucking duplicate post, Word Press.
ETA: You have one job.
NotMax
@SpaceUnit
There’s no cure for FYWP 2 a.m.-itis.
:)
FortGeek (J. White)
Just saw John’s tweeter post about Betty; Fuck cancer! from the NW part of our common asylum, pulling for you, hoping for the best, and all those other sayings that come out when one’s at a loss.
piratedan
@Tony Jay: If the left continues to be pragmatically centrist in regards to their avowed policies and solutions, we at the NYT will be forced to move the Overton Window of our Op-Eds even further to the right to strike the appropriate balance.
mrmoshpotato
@Yutsano:
Have the fascist-humping piles of shit tried screaming about HILLARY’S EMAILS! for old times’ sake?
Origuy
@SpaceUnit: The dreaded 2AM Eastern Time bug. WordPress does some housekeeping then and posts at the wrong time get duplicated. It bit me once because I’m on Pacific Time and 11 is when I’m often on.
YY_Sima Qian
@Tony Jay: FTFNYT!!!
YY_Sima Qian
I have to go back to the U.S. for a few weeks this year, I guess I will make sure it’s well before the election.
SpaceUnit
@NotMax:
@Origuy:
Thanks. I’ll try to remember it in the future and avoid posting at the witching hour.
Tony Jay
@piratedan:
NotMax
@
British spelling a dead giveaway.
Unless you meant the North Yorkshire Tattler.
;)
Hob
@NotMax: Honestly I feel like it’s just as bad whether Trump looks at it and approves it, or he just approves by default without having to look, because it’s clear he doesn’t give a shit if his loyalists want to party with Nazis. I lean toward the latter only because he’s so lazy and doesn’t like to read. He knows what kind of people work for him, he doesn’t give a shit what they instigate as long as they kiss his ass and protect him. That’s still a deliberate and dangerous evil.
NotMax
Fumble fingers fix.
@Tony Jay
British spelling a dead giveaway.
Unless you meant the North Yorkshire Tattler.
;)
Chet Murthy
@Hob: I’m reminded of that old phrase “Working towards the Fuhrer”. His minions know what he likes/wants, and they aim to please.
Tony Jay
@NotMax:
The Tattler is a family paper with a concentration on sheep farming and figuring out who is related to who and how many times in the obituary supplement. It would never lower itself to FTFNYT level gaslighting.
Martin
Have to assume this isn’t the outcome Israel was looking for:
The speed limiter in new cars bill has made it out of the CA senate. It’s a bit different than originally proposed, mainly it’s a soft, not hard limiter:
This matches the EU law that comes into effect next year.
JWR
Wanna bet this random campaign staffer who really DID see the word is named Stephen Miller?
Or there’s Stephen Colbert’s response: “Yes, they didn’t see it. It’s a simple case of Not See.”
Tony Jay
@Martin:
Have to assume we’re going to be hearing the names Franco, Quisling, and Liam Devlin a lot over the next few months as the Smear Machine goes into overdrive to paint these countries as unrepentant Nazi revanchists.
The wrong side of history is an uncomfortable place to be, but it’s always the destination on the front of the Right’s bus.
NotMax
@Tony Jay
Favorite wrapping in the local chipper, eh wot?
:)
Geminid
I see Oregon state Rep. Janelle Bynum has won the Democratic nomination to face Rep. Lori Chavez-DeRemer this November. Bynum beat Jamie McLeod Skinner 69.5 to 30.5%. In 2022, McCleod-Skinner lost to Chavez-DeRomer by 7300 votes out of almost 350,000 votes cast, a margin of 50.9-48.8%.
In 2020, Joe Biden would have carried the 5th CD as it is currently configured, making it one of 18 districts with a Republican Representative that Biden would have carried.
Bynum and Chavez-DeRemer have faced off twice already, in 2016 and 2018. Then, they were running for state Representative in the 51st District. Bynum won both times.
The 5th Congressional District runs from the Portland suburbs west across the Cascades.
Oregon Rep. Earl Blumenaur is retiring, so there was another Democratic primary for his seat. Maxine Dexter won that one, with 51.1% of the vote. Susheela Jayapal was runner-up with 28.6%. I think the district is rated “Safe Democratic.”
Baud
We’re pretty much on “Why do all these homosexuals keep sucking my dick” territory when it comes to Trump and Nazis.
Baud
@Geminid: Fanni Willis won her primary.
Danielx
@Baud:
Haven’t you heard? Ein Fuhrer, Ein Volk, Ein Reich.
Baud
Geminid
@Geminid: I left an “e” out of Earl Blumenauer’s last name.
Wikipedia tells me that Rep. Blumenauer has served in Congress since 1996. He’s one of the last Clinton-era Democrats left in the House. I can think of Kaptur, DeLauro, Hoyer, Pelosi and Clyburn; I guess there are others.
Baud
@Martin:
I hope they resurrect Clippy from the old Microsoft Word. OG AI.
Geminid
@Baud: Yes, and Judge MacAfee won a four year term. He was apointed to the bench by Gov. Kemp last year.
I read about DA Willis’s victory celebration in Buckhead last night. She came out swinging at her Republican opponent. A very determined woman.
Baud
@Geminid:
Good. Hadn’t heard about the judge.
Tony Jay
@NotMax:
The days of being able to read yesterday’s news in reverse on the skin of your chips are long gone, I’m afraid. Hopefully getting ink-poisoning back on the menu will be one of these Brexit Benefits we hear so little about these days.
JWR
What gets me are statements like this, largely echoed earlier today by Blinken. From CNN:
First of all, I listened to the ICC’s lead prosecutor on Amanpour & Co last night, and unless I missed it, he said nothing about attempting to show “equivalence” between the two, and second, the ICC deliberately avoided using the word Genocide in their warrants for good reason. Also, the venom I hear coming from both Biden, and even moreso from Blinken, whenever they say such things really turns me off to their message. It’s as if Bibi’s War Cabinet is writing their copy, the only difference being that the U.S. version doesn’t include nonsense about the IDF being The Most Moral Army In The World™ the way Bibi’s does, reminding me that if you have to say it, Bibi, it probably isn’t true.
Baud
@JWR:
You’re comment made me curious. Apparently, it’s currently only an application for a warrant. The ICC has not issued a warrant yet. And here are the crimes charged against Bibi and other Israelis.
p.a.
To paraphrase The Onion, “NTY Editorial Board sees Repub/Nazi desire to burn down the New York Times as an understandable response to liberal overreach on the upcoming EPA renewal bill”.
Princess
He did this all the time in 2016 – posted some Nazi shit, then said “whoopsie”, then all his apologists in the media and on the far left (bonus: Hannah Gais is both!) make excuses for him and he gets to signal to his base that he’s still on board with the whole hating Jews and Black people thing.
Warblewarble
Blinken has secured a position on the board of AIPAC, and the gratitude of the billionaires.
brantl
@Baud: Sure looks legitimate to me.
Manyakitty
@YY_Sima Qian: probably a good idea. Where are you going?
Baud
@Baud:
Ugh. You’re = Your.
Tony Jay
@JWR:
It’s like Alito seething about how everyone must agree that he’s the epitome of unimpeachable respectability.
No one does, because he’s not, at all. And that’s not going to change no matter how much he hisses from the expensive seats.
How dare anyone judge these people for their actions. The cheek of it. Don’t we know who their friends are? /s
Ohio Mom
@FortGeek (J. White): Betty Cracker wrote a post about her approach to her cancer two days ago, you can scroll back and read it if you’d like.
Ramalama
@Danielx:
Same crowd not freaking out over the use of …NOT ENGLISH
If those miscreants really wanted to embrace Germany, they’d embrace Germany’s laws which…oh … don’t allow Nazi paraphernalia / propaganda to be on display.
TBone
@Baud: 👍
I’m so old I remember their response to antifa back in 2018: sell campaign merch using Nazi symbolism!
https://www.mediamatters.org/facebook/facebook-let-trump-campaign-run-ads-inverted-red-triangle-infamous-nazi-symbol
Wasn’t there, just this past week, testimony under oath that only two people are authorized to post on his social media? And one of those people is Rump?
ETA I see Steeplejack addressed this already.
Ramalama
@Martin: I’m surprised South Africa is not on that list.
TBone
@Princess: 👍
Kay
@Ramalama:
South Africa was already on the list.
FortGeek (J. White)
@Ohio Mom: I saw, it, thank you :) There were so many comments over there that I picked a shorter thread to comment in.
TBone
This town in Germany used a stroke of genius to deter Nazis.
https://archive.thinkprogress.org/german-town-pranked-neo-nazis/
They abhor being mocked. It works to sharpen and enlarge that teeny, tiny sense of shame that they’ve hidden away. That’s why we should mock them at all times in every possible way.
https://www.denofgeek.com/movies/the-cast-of-jojo-rabbit-on-why-making-fun-of-nazis-is-ok/
I can’t wait to see the new movie ‘The Apprentice’ about Roy Cohn and Rump.
Baud
@TBone:
I don’t disagree. But you have to decide how you’re going to react when they lash out and hurt innocent people.
TBone
@Baud: then they must be punished to the full extent of the law. I was talking about how to deter them before they’ve hurt people. We still have a chance, right now, to deter them before they hurt people AGAIN. Stephen Miller, especially, needs to be punished. But that seems unlikely to happen right now. They’re not sneaking up on us unawares this time!
Baud
@TBone:
They already control several states. Abbott is pardoning murderers. Completely legal. I don’t think you can cleanly separate before and after. It’s all mixed together.
YY_Sima Qian
@Manyakitty: Mostly Upstate NY, which is basically GOP country outside of the cities. Between NYC, Buffalo, Rochester & Syracuse (& a few isolated college towns), it might as well be Alabama culturally, but perhaps not quite so nativist, crazy & corrupt.
Ds actually won the local House District in the waves of ’06 & ’08, but lost it narrowly in ’10, ’12 & ’14, & by ever more lopsided margins ever since.
It’s been 5 years since I have been back, so not sure what it’s like now. My Chinese colleagues who have visited in the past year or so came away less than impressed, nor were they by NYC.
TBone
My mother, in the middle of raging dementia, saw a chyron with the word ‘President’ in front of Rump’s name on TV shortly after he was “elected.” She started shouting “THAT’S IMPOSSIBLE!!!” over and over. It took me twenty minutes to calm her, reassuring her that it was indeed real but that we’d keep a good eye on him. Can you imagine being in the middle of dementia and having reality be so fucking surreal? She died 1/2/18 and part of me is relieved that she doesn’t have to see things now, even more surreal to the point of (my words now fail me).
Anyway
@Baud:
Yes, Abbott is pardoning convicted murderers. Convicted by a jury his peers.
TBone
@Baud: I was drawing a faulty distinction around Rump and his campaign. Your point is duly taken and now I’m really fucking pissed off. Again 😆
Baud
@TBone:
Sorry. The point I wanted to make is that if we’re going to mock them, we have to learn how to do it not just when the do stupid things but when they do evil things. And that’s harder to do because it can look like we’re having fun at other people’s tragedies.
ETA: As someone who uses humor as a weapon, I often worry about the practice becoming self-entertainment.
rikyrah
@Yutsano:
Tell that truth 😠
TBone
@Baud: have you seen JoJo Rabbit? Abbott, et al. need their very own mockumentary. Daily articles vis a vis The Onion published in Texas TV and print news. A girl can dream…
The nullification push needs to be smashed with more than mockery but WWIII is an undesirable possible outcome. If it arrives, I will lock and load. Not afraid because I’m chronically ill and might as well volunteer as suffer slowly.
Scout211
Wrong thread
Manyakitty
@YY_Sima Qian: might be a fun place for a meetup, if you’re interested in such things. I’d make the drive from Ohio.
TBone
@Scout211: a glimmer of hope that all is not lost for this particular case. Getting it going before the election might be gone now, but my Spidey senses tell me that the prosecution will not rest while such imperative national security matters are at stake. Our very lives depend upon it.
Lyrebird
@YY_Sima Qian: Well the capital region has all the state leg craziness but also lots going on as far as Chinese American culure!
Jim Appleton
@Tony Jay: One is a stalwart beacon in service of truth, the other plies sheep shit.
YY_Sima Qian
@Manyakitty: That would be lovely, but I can drive elsewhere, too!
I might be staying a couple of nights in NYC during the trip. That also could be a good place, as well, though much farther from Ohio.
YY_Sima Qian
@Lyrebird: You mean Albany? I have never been there, despite having spent a decade & half total in NY State.
JustRuss
Pardon my pedantry, but the Cascades are east of the Portland burbs.
Manyakitty
@YY_Sima Qian: hahahaha, yes, upstate is a much easier drive than NYC from the Akron area. In all seriousness, when you start to firm up your plans, please let a front-pager know. Would love to meet you in person!
Geminid
@JustRuss: Yes, I mixed up “east” and “west.” Oregon’s 5th CD runs east from Portland.