I have been in a foul mood and lethargic and unmotivated, but I guess as the owner of an almost top 10,000 blog, I have to watch this fucking debate whether I want to or not, and I am here to tell you that I do not want to watch this fucking debate. I find everything about Trump to be repellent and vile, the sound of his voice gives me angina, looking at his orange malformed visage makes my stomach churn, and reading and watching the sick cultists makes me want to punch this Baron Harkonnen motherfucker in the dick and blast them all back to Giedi Prime. So here we fucking are, and because I have no fucking self control and ruined drinking for myself with my gluttonous excess, I’ll be watching sober with nothing to dull my pain.
God damnit.
I’ve been vacillating between “I can’t believe this fucking guy is going to get elected again” and doubting the accuracy of the polling for the better part of the last week, and that’s been fucking great for my mental health, let me tell you. I find the entire thing to be terrifying- he’s such a bad person and he is surrounded by other equally awful but in different ways people and cheered on by the worst people and it’s just disgusting. If he wins the Supreme Court is done for several more decades and I just don’t think people understand how bad they will make life for so many people. It’s too horrifying to contemplate.
On the other hand, I still do not feel the Trump energy the way I did in 2016. Maybe they’ve all learned to take off their hats and big signs so people don’t know they are garbage human beings. I don’t know.
The worst part about this debate is that the scripts are already written by the media, who love themselves a horse race and chaos in general, so what actually happens at the debate really doesn’t matter. Barring Trump’s pants falling down and showing his diaper or him dropping dead, I doubt any minds will change. The worse he is will probably increase his support among the base. God, they are so awful. Life today is like wearing the glasses in They Live, but it’s half the fucking country.
As you can see, I am not doing well with this election cycle. I’ll just stop here.
*** Update ***
I just re-read this and holy shit I am a cranky old fucker.
Villago Delenda Est
My personal take? The polling is bullshit. We don’t know the methodology or the sample, and yet the MSM swears by it because the horse race meme must be preserved at all cost because the MSM is made up of very lazy motherfuckers who are out the door at 1630 to get to Sally’s for tiger shrimp.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Tightened that up for you.
Baud
A large part of America tolerates Democrats only when they need something fixed.
suzanne
I am not sure how I feel about the election. I’m not sure if I truly think Biden is going to win easily, or if I really just want to believe that.
This feels more like 2020 than 2016 to me, but that’s probably just vibes.
Old Dan and Little Ann
I just saw a funny tweet that mentioned that Biden refers to drumph as a sick fuck behind closed doors. The tweeter said if Biden called trump a sick fuck on live tv tonight he’d win 40 states. Go Dark Brandon.
chrisanthemama
Hate-watching can be helpful if you feel compelled. What a fcking time to fcking be alive.
Omnes Omnibus
You have no obligation to watch. So don’t. You already know the stakes. You know what you need to do. Do those things and skip stuff like this that provides no benefit for you.
It’s like the people who think they need to watch every horrible video from Gaza or Ukraine in order to “bear witness.” No, you don’t. You don’t have to take on those psychological scars to care about the situation or be informed.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus:
Agreed.
ETA: Cole could sell the blog to private equity if he doesn’t want to feel compelled to watch
eclare
As I said before, I will not watch. I’m too scared. I am sure Joe will do fine, I just can’t have a heart attack watching.
Gawd I already have a monster case of hiccups.
eclare
@Omnes Omnibus:
As someone who was shamed on this blog for not wanting to watch some horrible video from Ukraine, thank you.
bbleh
I’m with you that I just don’t see or feel the manic support for TCFG that I felt the last time, and I sense more ambivalence and skepticism. This may just be hopium, but I am VERY far from despair.
In any case, I think his awfulness is now fully evident, where perhaps it wasn’t quite as fully so before, and none of his WWE razzle-dazzle or the various media confabulations are going to change that. In that sense, and especially compared to past elections, the voters will know well what the choices are.
I’m curious to see what Joe’s strategy is. Trump is a chaos agent, and the media love that, so I’m guessing that’s a done deal. I can’t imagine he’d decide to be “calm sober President Trump” even if he were able to pull it off; he’s much more in his element the other way. But what’s Joe gonna do? (Note to those needing reminder: Joe is actually good at politics and has not in fact lost his marbles.)
No way not to watch — all you get is media spin. Don’t gimme that cut sh!t; mainline the pure stuff.
Baud
@eclare:
I didn’t think anyone who commented on this blog could feel shame.
Jeffro
indeed!
Nickel bet he does in fact call him ‘sick’, and I’ll even go a dime on Biden saying right to trumpov’s ugly orange mug, “you clearly snapped after you lost in 2020”. ;)
Another Scott
re the polls. Remember Kansas in July-August 2022:
KansasReflector.com – Poll shows Kansans closely divided on constitutional amendment on abortion – July 20.
KansasReflector.com – Kansas voters defeat abortion amendment in unexpected landslide – August 2.
Good polling depends on good models and good sampling. Lots and lots of polls these days – especially post-Dobbs – have crap models and crap sampling.
Hang in there.
Forward!!
Cheers,
Scott.
Jeffro
I have a feeling it’s going to be a lot of ignoring trump while speaking directly to the American people (like a presidential address) and reminding them of the choice & the stakes here.
With a generous helping of mockery, of course!
Baud
@bbleh:
That’s what I don’t understand, How many people aren’t worried about 4 years of choas. Whatever you think of Biden, he’s not a chaos president.
Baud
@Jeffro:
Probably right.
Omnes Omnibus
@eclare: Whoever did that was being an asshole. There are things in this world that no one should have to see.
Jeffro
if it helps any, here’s Biden/Harris ’24’s social media take on trump getting out of his plane this afternoon…
DO IT DARK B!
Anoniminous
I don’t think Trump 2024 can keep it together for 90 minutes. At some point he’s going to go off on one of his psycho-demented harangues.
Jeffro
ANOTHER nickel bet: President Biden will note how Pence & MANY other trump cabinet officials will not endorse trump’s ’24 run
ONE MORE (please Brandon): he will likely also note Kinzinger’s and Duncan’s endorsements from yesterday/today
Old Dan and Little Ann
I’m all in for tonight’s debate. Biden’s going to drop some mad zingers on the traitorous felon and make him stroke out.
Baud
@Old Dan and Little Ann:
👍
Hungry Joe
I’m whipsawing between “This won’t be that big of a deal” and “The fate of the nation, and maybe the world, depends on whether or not this shallow, demented buffoon wanders into a shark story.”
Praying (or rather, hoping) for sharks.
Baud
@Jeffro:
Good point.
Are you on his debate prep team?
Anoniminous
@Another Scott:
Yeah, polling firms can’t reach 70%+ of the US voting population so the whole thing is Bullshit.
Baud
@Hungry Joe:
Maybe Joe will sport a shark pin.
zhena gogolia
@Old Dan and Little Ann: I hope you’re right. I will catch them as clips later. I get too nervous to watch debates. I haven’t watched one in real time since, I think, Obama’s first debate with Romney.
Leto
@Omnes Omnibus: this. John, pet the animals, read a book out on the porch, play some WoW classic (are you playing Cata Classic?)… ask Breanna to go get some Mexican followed by some ice cream.
Take a mental health break. Most of us will be there with you.
waspuppet
@bbleh: Trying to figure out what Trump is going to do is like trying to figure out (Martin O’Malley’s words as far as I know) a monkey with a machine gun. If he tries to act “presidential” Peter Baker will carry him off the stage on his shoulders (in a totally nonbiased way of course), but then again one of the few things Trump has ever been right about in his 78-year fall up the stairs of a life is that nobody cares what Peter Baker thinks.
Anyway, like I said yesterday, I can’t watch because listening to Trump sends me back to my first marriage. Her politics were much better, but a very similar way of interacting with people.
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
That was a disaster. Obama wasn’t prepared for the lying.
H.E.Wolf
I was gobsmacked to learn – via the blog of Diane Duane, author and R.N. – that there’s a 3-option cure for hiccups that is based on the science of hiccuping (hiccupology?).
https://www.dianeduane.com/outofambit/2017/04/25/the-hiccup-cure/
Luckily for me, the 1st of the 3 options works every time. Big time-saver. :)
bbleh
@Baud: Just guessing, but I think two large camps among them are (1) the nihilists, who feel abandoned and abused by pretty much the whole system (not without reason), who don’t realize who’s helping them and who’s hurting them nor how much worse off they’d be, and who don’t CARE ANYWAY YAAAAHH, and (2) various groups — dyed-in-the-wool Republicans, Trump cultists, et al — who don’t think he WOULD be an agent of chaos and think (or prefer to think) instead that, whatever else he did, he would Clean Up The Mess and shut Those People up and make the trains run on time.
zhena gogolia
I will probably follow along on BJ, although we’re having dinner late tonight so I’m not sure we’ll be done.
MazeDancer
In the primaries, Trump consistently got 10 points less in actual votes than he did in polls.
Also, today, the NYT admitted that Republicans get overpolled because they answer the phone more. And are eager to participate in polls.
The Times did not admit they like it that way. And they are in the tank for Trump.
Baud
@MazeDancer:
People always say act like we’re 10 points down. The NYT is doing us a service.
zhena gogolia
@H.E.Wolf: #1 works for me too, but for some reason my go-to remedy is one I heard in an old movie that I’ve never been able to identify: Hold your breath and drink 9 swallows of water. It works every time. But it has to be 9 swallows, not 8.
West of the Rockies
You ever try edibles, jC, or even just CBD
I also loathe Trump, his tired, repetitive gestures, his Jiminy Glick voice (and I actually enjoy THE Jiminy Glick)… I wish he’d croak on national TV.
thruppence
I will blessedly be at work. I’m DVRing the thing and I can fast forward if there’s anything worth watching.
TBone
Jeff Tiedrich brings the pertinent debate questions 😆
https://www.jefftiedrich.com/p/i-have-some-debate-questions-for
if you need some cheering up
Jeffro
DARK B: “Tonight, sadly, I have to share a stage with a convicted felon and adjudicated rapist…”
(every response)
KrackenJack
@Omnes Omnibus: This. We don’t need to inflame our lizard brains and damage our mental health.
TBone
@West of the Rockies: my experience with CBD was “sheesh, what a waste of $$$” but everyone is different.
Jeffro
In
spiritvibes, yes.bbleh
@H.E.Wolf: @zhena gogolia: there’s a mechanical One Weird trick that works for me every time. Put a spoon in a glass of water, put the handle UNDER your tongue, and drink the water. It pokes uncomfortably (obviously if it’s tearing your tongue out, try a deeper glass or a shorter spoon, but it should hurt a little), and apparently it like stretches something somewhere and … they stop!
Jeffro
Same thing with Tim Kaine debating Mike Pence in 2016. He (Kaine) just couldn’t believe it, the whole way through.
Harrison Wesley
I have no intention of watching this thing, and unless aliens teleport in during a commercial break I won’t miss squat.
JCNZ
@suzanne: it is mathematically and morally impossible for trump to win. Not a D or D-leaning person in America will not vote for Joe. Apart from Maga – a minority of a minority party – hardly any Rs will get out of bed to vote (which will have a glorious down-stream effect). This will be like the Tory win in the UK in 2019. People didn’t vote for Boris – rather, they couldn’t bring themselves to vote for Jeremy Corbyn.
Josie
John, You don’t have to watch the damn debate just because you own the blog. Do something fun instead and catch up later if you feel like it. There is absolutely no reason to make yourself sick watching this side show. I feel the same way you do about it, and I will not watch. The world will just keep turning. I think I will write some of my post cards tonight and maybe work on my book.
West of the Rockies
@TBone:
I’ve not tried it, but my spouse digs it.
ColoradoGuy
Orange Caligula promised nonstop chaos in 2016, and delivered. The Ship of State sailed on until we hit Covid, and having a malevolent gameshow host didn’t work. Unlike the Republicans, the virus wasn’t scared by him, and ripped through the country.
This time, Caligula isn’t promising chaos. He’s promising a hard-core dictatorship, assisted by his Nazi-clone true believers, which has a very different feel. How many closet Nazis and Seven Mountains theocrats do we have in the USA? Maybe 27%?
Omnes Omnibus
@KrackenJack: All that being said, I will probably watch. I just don’t think anyone else has an obligation to do it unless they are being well paid.
geg6
@Baud:
That would be hilarious.
hueyplong
If Trump drops dead on stage, I’m fairly confident that replays will be available at a site or two on the Internet.
Otherwise, not real interested in watching the pig bloviate.
laura
I won’t be watching it live, but I’ll be lurking all over the nitter and other interwebs for the curated stuff, the analysis, the shenanigans and the hot takes after action reports. I anticipate that President Biden will be “presidential and a bad ass mofo” and that shakes the clown will spin like a dervish of shite and really distinguish himself like no one’s ever seen. Bigly.
We should each do what’s best on an individual basis wrt the debates. We should all continue to chop wood and carry water to ensure massive turnout. I got a text from Voces de la Frontera today- I was Chuffed! I’m thrilled that the Blog Father and his Front Pagers have engaged in on the ground groups and that jackals have had the opportunity to invest in those groups. If I could offer any advice to J Cole, it would be to take a nice bath- hydrotherapy is underappreciated IMHO.
TBone
@West of the Rockies: that’s nice for her! I couldn’t feel anything at all – I tried gummies and candy and oil/distillate and all I felt was ripped off.
Kristine
@Anoniminous:
Strawberries.
TBone
@Kristine: Captain Queef!
Anoniminous
@JCNZ:
I wouldn’t go that far. The silly archaic way a US President is elected means it is mathematically possible for Trump to win. It’s mathematically impossible to predict he’s going to win. Biden won Arizona by 0.003% of the vote. That is WAY beyond the granularity of telephone polling.
Redshift
IMHO, if you’re thinking of “will any minds be changed” in terms of people switching support from one candidate to the other (or the media favorite, “undecided swing voters”), that’s the wrong way to look at it. I agree that’s unlikely, but it also doesn’t matter.
Campaigns would love to pick up new supporters, but they’re way more concerned with motivating everyone who would never support TCFG to vote, and to talk to their friends, etc. That’s something debates can affect.
Jackie
@Villago Delenda Est:
Worse; TstupidCFG uses the faulty polls as his basis for a rigged and ‘stollen’ election – and his poorly educated MAGAts believe him.
Mike in NC
Won’t watch the debate because I’ve never watched one before. Fat Bastard’s voice is so whiny and nasal that I can’t listen to him wallowing in self pity. His bloated, ugly, shiny orange face looks like a rotting jack-o-lantern topped with urine-colored cotton candy.
How did we ever get to this point? This country used to elect politicians who at least pretended to have a molecule of decency and dignity. Trump’s a worthless cretin who once danced on stage on SNL with some people dressed up like chickens.
Betty Cracker
You’ve expressed how I feel about the whole shit-show better than I could have done myself.
TBone
Me and my buddy will be watching together tonight, cheering! 🤩
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=82JLS6SQELw
CaseyL
@H.E.Wolf:
The first solution – a spoonful of sugar – has always worked for me. I could probably do it even now, as a Type II Diabetic, because it’s just one spoonful.
(And, yes, you better believe I always sang the Mary Poppins song while measuring out the spoonful.)
John, I don’t know where you got the idea that being our Blogfather means you have to watch the debate. Please be disabused of that notion. We love you! We don’t want you to suffer! (And certainly not on our behalf, an ungrateful pack of jackals that we are!)
I, for one, am totally not watching the debate, but will be following it here and on social media.
Omnes Omnibus
Sure, pick the most tasteful thing he has done in his life.
Geminid
@suzanne: Both the 2016 and 2020 elections could have gone either way.
One thing that encourages me about this year is that Joe Biden’s campaign is much better funded. In 2020, the Biden campaign did not reach parity with Trump’s until mid-August and they had to play catch-up. This time, they started putting resources into the battleground states last Fall.
That includes North Carolina. Trump is staging a rally in Cheapeake, Virginia tomorrow. He really should have picked Charlotte, North Carolina instead. But Trump can come to Virginia as much as he wants, I don’t care. He’ll just drive up Joe Biden’s vote total.
Omnes Omnibus
Important question: Wings or Mexican?
Sister Golden Bear
@Hungry Joe:
Praying (or rather, hoping) for electric sharks.
MagdaInBlack
@TBone: LOLOL @ “s’up, fuckface.”
Thank you, I needed that ❤️
Omnes Omnibus
@Sister Golden Bear: Excuse me, but those are eels.
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus: You’re making me hungry. My husband is listening to a Zoom lecture live from Milwaukee. The pronunciation of “dah-cument” is making me nostalgic. And hungry (we can’t eat until it’s over).
ETA: Ooh, and “Wis – CAHN -sin”
TBone
@MagdaInBlack: hugs! 🤗
TBone
@Omnes Omnibus: def wings
Omnes Omnibus
@zhena gogolia: That didn’t really answer my question.
bbleh
@laura: We should each do what’s best on an individual basis wrt the debates. We should all continue to chop wood and carry water to ensure massive turnout.
THIS!! This this this! Thank you.
eclare
@H.E.Wolf:
Thanks! They are gone, thankfully.
zhena gogolia
@Omnes Omnibus: I’d go with Mexican.
Jackie
@Baud:
I would love that! I’d probably spew🍷all over – just like the 💦 I just now spewed at your comment. Damn you!
Redshift
@Geminid:
It also includes Florida. I’m not sure if they really think they have an outside shot there, or if it’s an investment in party building and maybe picking up some congressional seats, it if it’s trolling, but I’ll take it.
bbleh
@TBone: @MagdaInBlack: “Jesus Don, what is UP with that suit? I can give you the name of a decent tailor soon as we’re done here…”
catclub
Now I wonder what the live camera rules are, I already know about the silenced mics.
pluky
Trump is much more Glossu Rabban than Vladimir Harkonnen.
Leto
@Omnes Omnibus: yes.
bbleh
@catclub: read somewhere that it’ll be permanent split-screen. So always opportunity for mugging.
Dangerman
If TCFG’s pants drop and shows his diaper, Magats will call it fashion and copy him. Heaven help us if he has filled it already. Magats will up their fiber intake.
I hope the fucker strokes and is relegated to the garbage dump of history with McCarthy.
laura
@Omnes Omnibus: Mexican. Always Mexican.
Omnes Omnibus
@Leto: Smartass NCOs….
Leto
@pluky: true, but more people are familiar with the Baron than the Beast.
Sister Golden Bear
@Omnes Omnibus: Nope. Electric Shark (2020).
“The city of Anapa is again attacked by a shark, and this time it shoots with electricity.”
And let us not forget the Irradiated Bio-Electric Great White.
It’s on the internet, so it must be true.
Omnes Omnibus
Okay then, Mexican it is.
Hungry Joe
@Baud: Joe’s sporting a shark lapel pin would be WAY beyond epic. Trump would conniption-fit out. Is it too late to get word to his team? Is it even possible to find a shark pin in Atlanta? Why isn’t anybody ALL OVER THIS???
Another Scott
And another thing…
I expect Biden to mention “loser”, “lost”, etc., several times tonight.
People don’t vote for losers. That’s why just about everyone in modern times who has lost the presidency never gets another chance (Grover was the notorious exception). Even losing challengers in the general election rarely get another chance. Nixon lost in ’60 (barely), won in ’68. Anyone else since WWII??
I like Biden’s and the Democrats chances. A lot. But we’ve got to do the work.
Cheers,
Scott.
Omnes Omnibus
Who could argue with that?
Jackie
I saw a Debate bingo card, but it was flawed; sniffling wasn’t a choice.
ira
@Old Dan and Little Ann: I agree completely. If Biden went over and bitch-slapped Trump a few times, the election would be over. Biden would win in a landslide. Trump is such an obvious coward, hiding behind the persona of a tough guy, all you have to do is unmask him. Game over. Trump has literally *nothing* going for him except the fake image of himself that he has created. Tear it down quickly and swiftly, and it’s all over.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@Redshift:
A quote from earlier today about a debate’s real purpose:
The point of a presidential debate is not to score debate points but to bolster a narrative and message.
Geminid
@Geminid: That would be Chesapeake, Virginia. It’s on the inland side of Virginia Beach. The rally will be staged at Historic Greenbrier Farm, a pick-your-own farm farm with market that doubles as a wedding venue. Traffic could be a problem, because the farm is right off the main route to Nags Head and the rest of the Outer Banks, and that road stays busy on a summer Friday.
wenchacha
@Old Dan and Little Ann: I wonder if they are going to use a 3 second delay?
Geminid
@Redshift: There’s a Senate seat to pick up in Florida so I don’t mind the Biden campaign making a play there. It’s an expensive state for advertising and they’ll have to be judicious, but it merits resources.
Anoniminous
Trump Question
Do you agree with 41% of your supporters that the US should bomb Agrabah?
Avalune
I can’t stand him either. His face. His movements. His dumb face. His horrid voice. The dumb way he talks. The word salad. His face. The way he stands. His grandstanding. His lies. His face. The way he puckers his stupid lips. That weird muppet look where he stretches out his neck and looks down his nose. Did I mention his face? But I was going to try to watch it for as long as I can stand to (which I don’t expect to be long). May join Betty in playing in Procreate. I’m trying to learn Procreate Dreams so I can play with some 2d animation. Or this book here could become terribly interesting…his dumb dumb stupid face…
Jackie
I ♥️ Jaime Harrison!
catclub
No love for Pat Paulsen.
Spanky
My fantasy finale is that Trump gets so irate that he charges at Joe and the Secret Service shoots him in the face. The End.
But maybe that’s a little too much to ask for.
Avalune
@Spanky: I’ve never wanted those hamburders to choke someone so badly in my life. Not my proudest moment but sure would like him to go away and just about don’t care how it is accomplished.
Anoniminous
Don’t have to watch. WNYC will be broadcasting the debate.
ETA: now +1 of a very fine 2020 Rabbit and Spaghetti Australian Barossa Valley Shiraz, going to +2.
Ohio Mom
Skipping to the end of the comments thread to say I am planning to just watch whatever highlights Aaron Rupar posts on his Twitter.
Because I don’t think I could bear to watch the debate either. Too restimulating. I ruefully remember laughing when Trump stalked Hillary. It was so ludricrous, I was sure there was no way this man could be elected.
I also do not have the heart to witness Biden’s inevitable misstep or two. I don’t think his missteps mean anything but other people will latch on to them.
Princess
The Dems should make a blue wave/shark pin for campaign swag.
Geminid
@Jackie: I like the idea of using billboards. People see so much video ads they start tuning them out or turning the channel, it seems to me. Same with internet ads. But commuters will look at a billboard because they’re bored, and they’ll look at it the next day because they’re bored
Ed. I hope Democrats can rent those billboards for the duration, and rotate new messaging every couple weeks.
Scout211
Here’s some non-debate news.
UncleEbeneezer
@Omnes Omnibus: Wings or Mexican is a true Sophie’s choice dilemma for me. I love them both so much. We do Mexican much more often because there’s a zillion great Mexican options here in SoCal but only a couple good wing spots. We have a rotation of about half a dozen Mexican places and they each have different specialties from different regions of Mexico. Plus we love good old-fashioned, American-bastardized hard tacos, which we are having tonight. But when we make wings at home we make them with Korean BBQ sauce and they are ridiculously delicious. And now you’re making me want wings, lol.
catclub
@Anoniminous: well, the evil grand vizier as well as Aladdin lived there. So sure. Eggs, omelets, whatever.
Trivia Man
Im at a theatre in Madison watching it on a movie screen with about 200 apparent liberals and a couple hosts up front.
My wife declined to come with but gave me instructions: if orange head drops dead, text me at once
Noskilz
Obviously, take nothing for granted and work hard until the very end, but I don’t think this election is going to be as close as some fear. Could be I’m just insane or tripping balls on copium, but I’m feeling pretty good about the election season.
Ars Technica recently had an interesting article on the state of the polling industry these days:
The job of pollsters has become much harder. Here’s how they’re responding
Burnspbesq
Nothing that happens tonight will change my mind, and there aren’t enough CBD gummies in the entire known universe to get me through it with my sanity intact, so fuck it. I’m going to bed early.
bbleh
@UncleEbeneezer: wellll, I dunno about this Woke Cooking thing, but at least now it’s illegal in Florida, Texas, Tennessee, Utah, Alabama, Iowa and both Dakotas!
Burnspbesq
In other news, the Supreme Court sucks.
Trivia Man
Im in an old timey theatre in madison watching on a movie screen. About 200 apparent liberals.
Mrs declined to come but asked me to “text immediately if he drops dead”
Kristine
@TBone: Tbh, what I noticed most about that scene was the wooden acting of everyone except Bogie.
Starfish
So yesterday, I was walking in the neighborhood, and one of the neighbors asked if we were going to watch the circus about this debate, and he told me exactly which neighbor is having a debate watch party at his house.
JML
@Omnes Omnibus: I’m going wings. 1/2 price boneless at BW3 today, and I believe in discounts. Gonna have a beer and ignore the debate.
raven
Panama’s some cheapshot motherfuckers. . .
UncleEbeneezer
@bbleh: We even “ruin” good-ole American hamburgers by marinating in fish sauce! And our steaks in soy sauce and garlic. Goddamn America indee…(eating sounds)
cain
@Anoniminous:
The first time his mic gets cut off? He’s going to lose his shit – and there will be like “death threats per minute” on twitter against the moderators, and then CNN etc.
Avalune
@raven: indeed! Dirty dirty.
Jackie
@Scout211: YAY!
prostratedragon
Rupar (at most) for me too.
“Tango” from score for The Phantom Carriage, Matti Bye
lowtechcyclist
My wife and I just came down with Covid, and even with a boost from Paxlovid I don’t think I can handle this shit. Besides, my bedtime falls right in the middle of the debate, and I’m not going to watch something that gets me riled up right before trying to sleep.
I think Biden’s winning strategy is: needle Trump. Not constantly, but often enough so that Trump gets pissed and blows up. Some of the needling should be obvious, and some of it should be veiled enough that Trump doesn’t know what he’s being needled about, and isn’t 100% sure that he is. The more Trump knows he’s being made fun of but doesn’t even know how, the more likely it is that he’ll lose it.
Anyhow, I’ll read all about it in the morning.
UncleEbeneezer
@JML: Wings were crazy expensive for awhile but are back to a fairly reasonable price. Thanks Biden!
Burnspbesq
@raven:
And Weah, who should know better, fell for it.
PSV fans have seen this movie before: Pepi gets into a great position and has a chance to do something special, but he can’t get his body organized.
cain
@West of the Rockies:
He’s in west virginia – it will be a cold day in hell before cannabis shows up there. :D
He’ll have to wait till he is back with his hunny in New Mexico.
VFX Lurker
@lowtechcyclist: COVID’s no joke. Hope you and your wife feel better soon.
UncleEbeneezer
@lowtechcyclist: Oh shit. Good luck to you. The Paxlovid definitely helped tamp down our symptoms, but I ended up getting a rebound case (which it makes slightly more likely).
Added: that sounds like the approach that would fit Biden’s personality. And a good tactic, imo.
Starfish
@Omnes Omnibus: We are having fajitas!
RedDirtGirl
@Scout211: Long overdue!
Dorothy A. Winsor
@Burnspbesq: A man of sense
Jackie
@lowtechcyclist: Blame TCFG!
Seriously, hope you and your wife recover quickly!🤞🏻
Auntie Beak
John we love you (even us mostly lurkers) because you are a cranky old fucker. It’s a feature not a bug.
raven
@Burnspbesq: ugh
O. Felix Culpa
Link to DNC debate watch party, if you’re interested (just started): https://live.joebiden.com/debate
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Avalune
@lowtechcyclist: sorry to hear it. I had it for second time recently. Still have the damned cough :( It was a weird strep throat flavored variety – very different from first one. I hope you guys feel better soon.
Burnspbesq
I’m hoping Biden makes maximum use of the phrase, “the convicted felon.” And wonders out loud about how you run the country from a prison cell.
WaterGirl
@eclare: I have no idea who shamed you for that, so I’ll just say fuck that.
Omnes Omnibus
@Starfish: So am I.
Avalune
@WaterGirl: spicy (but correct)
SW
The last thing in the world that I would do tonight is watch this fucking “debate”
Mallard Filmore
@Ohio Mom:
Hillary missed her chance … “Donald, the rest room is down the hall there, and to the left. One of these gentlemen will guide you.”
Princess
It must kill Trump that Biden’s wife is so much hotter than his wife.
Spanky
@lowtechcyclist: Well shit. Any idea where you got it? I may have a vested interest.
cmorenc
I can vividly recall the ecstatic joy of just 16 years ago the night Obama won the 2008 election by a very comfortable margin, and his GOP opponent John McCain was a decent, gracious man, and we all thought the country had at last evolved past a crucial corner to a brighter future. We never imagined, even with Mitch McConnell’s pledge soon-after to attempt to obstruct Obama at every turn, that the GOP would devolve into a tight cult of allegiance to a maliciious, malignant pustule from Hell like Trump, who openly admires the most evil, ambitious psychopath since Hitler, Vladimir Putin.
What the Hell went wrong with you people, GOPers?
WaterGirl
@H.E.Wolf: I’m sure I have shared this here before because I was traumatized by the experience, but when I was 7 I got the hiccups in church and the priest stopped his sermon and glared at me.
As if I could control the hiccups! Asshole.
Same priest also stopped and glared at me one other time – this time my awesome new Easter purse played music and I had accidentally bumped it and when it hit the wooden pew, it turned on.
And then when my mom died, may decades later, the stupid fucking priest (who hadn’t known my mom) preached about “the wages of sin is death” and how Blossom (my mom’s name) died because she was a sinner.
Fuck that guy. Not all priests should go to hell, but that one sure should.
end rant.
Ruckus
John
I am a cranky old fucker as well.
Possibly / probably not as cranky as yourownself but still.
ShitForBrains does seem to be bringing out the best in us. Which means that we will continue to despise his dumb, broken ass as much as possible because he is about as bad a human as it is capable of finding. He wants things and stuff that everyone else has to actually earn or that no one person should have, because he thinks his shit doesn’t stink. I live on the other side of the country and I can honestly, easily still tell that he smells like a 20 ton dump truck full of that which we normally flush. And he has gotten a hell of a lot smellier than he was – and that was far, far, far smellier than any normal pile of shit. He is an extreme POS, maybe not as bad as some of history for sure but far worse and shittier than anyone/everyone in this nation or at this time in history deserves.
cain
@Omnes Omnibus:
Porque no los dos?
LeftCoastYankee
I am watching for Trump having a full on stroke on live TV. Of this, I am not proud.
But pride requires other’s to notice, glee is all my own.
zhena gogolia
@cmorenc: Good summary.
NotMax
No need to subject yourself to the aggravation o fwatching when you can listen on radio.
NotMax
@Omnes Omnibus
Wings dipped in salsa?
HumboldtBlue
@Dangerman:
They are way ahead of you.
Craig
@bbleh: my trick is simple frogger. Run across the street in traffic. It focuses your mind, fear works, and your hiccups are gone.
UncleEbeneezer
@cmorenc: That was such a wonderful night. People were literally dancing in the streets of Venice, CA. I’ve only unabashedly danced in the streets two times:
1.) Election night 2008
2.) The day that AZ called it for Biden in 2020
Geminid
@NotMax: WTOP is broadcasting the debate. That’s DC’s all-news station. I can catch it through their Fredericksburg transmitter, 107.7 FM..
Ruckus
@WaterGirl:
My mom sent me to a Catholic all boys HS freshman year. We were then and still have never been Catholic. I had my fill of the higher mucky mucks of all religions well before I was sent to this school and it didn’t improve from there. It was a swell experience, that school year. Also I have a wonderful car to sell you…. You might notice that this was a rather long time ago, 62 years in fact. I still haven’t forgotten a day there. As I was rather short at the time I did consider giving Father Schaffer, the vice principal, a straight right hand punch in the place no male wants to be punched. I felt that it was appropriate to punch him in the area that he used as the basis of his personality. Just a side note, of all the humans that I’ve met in my life Father Schaffer was absolutely number 1 on my HIT parade, and really no one else has ever made the list.
Geminid
@Kristine: Jose Ferrer was also good in The Caine Mutiny, especially in the scene after the trial when he tells off his clients.
Craig
@cain: they aren’t going to push the button unless he gets like Linda Blair in the Exorcist
NotMax
@Craig
“Push the button, Max!”
– The Great Race
brantl
Be proud of it, you’ve earned it.
Timill
Not watching (though Marcia is).
Back from U TN Vet Hosp with cat but minus $3800