Trump says he'd like to write a book about the sensitive info his VP possibilities turned over to his campaign. #itllhappen
— Stephen Hayes (@stephenfhayes) July 25, 2016
Trump says Pence came back clean but other vets turned up "many, many pages" of info on VP options https://t.co/rB01ZzSJis
— Alex Burns (@alexburnsNYT) July 25, 2016
Because not being in the media spotlight for even one day makes the Combover Caligula break out in the cold sweats, like any other junkie. Just imagine how happy Paul Ryan and Reince Preibus must be about Trump threatening to use this information to punish all his enemies! It’ll make finding a viable candidate so much easier in 2020…
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Apart from all the poo-flinging monkeys, what’s on the agenda for the evening?
It's worth taking a step back and just noting the Republican nominee for POTUS is bragging "Putin likes me" https://t.co/MI6igALIvx
— Ben Jacobs (@Bencjacobs) July 25, 2016
The new joke in town is that Russia leaked the disastrous DNC e-mails, which should never have been written (stupid), because Putin likes me
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) July 25, 2016
In case you blinked after the convention, in the last three days, Trump has: pic.twitter.com/ftynxncmcV
— Josh Greenman (@joshgreenman) July 24, 2016
Also, Trump just said both Russia and China were involved in the hack on the DNC.
— Sopan Deb (@SopanDeb) July 25, 2016
"She worked very hard to rig the system little did know that China Russia one of our many many friends hacked the hell out of us." – Trump
— Katy Tur (@KatyTurNBC) July 25, 2016
“Paul?”
“Hello Mr President”
“You know why I’m calling, right?”
“Sorry. I’ll try to get him to not mention it again”https://t.co/V6UdK5H60y— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) July 25, 2016
Once, candidates hired Americans to break into their opponents’ communications. Now those good jobs have been outsourced.
— David Frum (@davidfrum) July 25, 2016
Trump is schvitzing and not happy about it, threatening not to pay for the hotel ballroom rental because it's hot.
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT) July 25, 2016
But he'll be tough enough to handle Russia or China. Uh-huh. https://t.co/zr4MxIIxBh
— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) July 25, 2016
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Okay, Frum’s a smug, sanctimonious dick, but that’s funny
JPL
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: If I was first, I’d say the same thing.
gene108
All the House Latinos are from CA
Mike J
lamh36
Rep Marcia Fudge was having none of that…loved it.
“I will be fair, I will respect you, but you also WILL respect me”…
Baud
That was a nice video.
Major Major Major Major
I understand the Bernie folks have been boo-ing their little sore loser hearts out today.
I was also told, repeatedly, yesterday–here, by revanchist Bernie supporters–that the primary was over and it was time to stop making fun of them for being petulant children.
Oh, and you guys sure did love my cat! Almost 600 posts! Wow!
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Bernie delegates on MSNBC are… not sympathetic characters.
Baud
@Major Major Major Major: That was a cat???!!!
;-)
slag
@Mike J: Huh. I didn’t realize that dewshbag had an alternative spelling. The Bernie contingent is totally alt-douche.
raven
@lamh36: And it didn’t mean shit. They just kept up their bullshit.
lamh36
So what does this mean this reporting that Bernie Sander’s name will be Placed in Nomination at the DNC
Three-nineteen
Would someone please tell me when the delegate vote is? I want to see it made official.
Thoroughly Pizzled
If we can get Trump to delete his Twitter account after losing the election, 2016 will have been redeemed.
Major Major Major Major
@lamh36: If that’s true, it means they’re going to have a floor vote, I believe. Because
1. Be whiny assholes
2. ????
3. President Bernie!
lamh36
father pussbucket
This article on Trump’s appeal by George Lakoff seems worth a read.
Original Lee
My conservative friends on FB are completely discounting the Russian angle. “Oh, those silly Democrats. They think we’ll stop supporting DT if we say the Russians are helping him! We’re not stupid, you know. They f*cked up big time.”
Baud
@lamh36: I wish someone would leak Wikileaks.
Omnes Omnibus
“Hillary Clinton is bad ass and ready to lead.”
Mike J
Look at where they’re getting their insults from:
Emma
Are we sure, absolutely sure, Trump isn’t just performance art? Because, really, if I were Ivanka I would be tearing my carefully streaked and blow-dried hair out.
MomSense
@Major Major Major Major:
I do love your cat and his namesake.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
I’m not a violent person, but those sniveling dickheads with the tape over their mouths…. You haven’t been “silenced”, children, you’ve been outvoted.
Also, Kevin Drum points out that Bernie may not be terribly bright:
Baud
Labor leaders!
lamh36
Bernie is a fool if he doesn’t have an reaction to booing of HRC. If his speechwriters are any good they will have anticipated all the possible areas of contention…
The visual or BS being booed when he mentions the Clinton/Kaine ticket is not the last thing the HRC camp want in the minds of primetime viewers…smh
It’s also why Sanders SHOULD NOT have been allowed to anchor tonight….IMHO
A buffer of Warren, Sanders, then FLOTUS would have bee fantastic visuals…but oh well..
seaboogie
@Major Major Major Major: SOME CAT
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@lamh36: I’m sure Jane and Comic Book Guy are assuring him it’s not his problem.
ETA: Memo to Kasie Hunt, when a Bernie delegate tells you he was chanting “Lock her up”, maybe ask him why? on what grounds?
Baud
@lamh36:
My completely made up theory is that Hillary will make a cameo at the end of Bernie’s speech and stand with him as a show of unity. It would be great theater.
BR
@father pussbucket:
I know him personally, and while I respect him greatly he gets a lot wrong about Trump (he’s under the mistaken belief that Trump actually has logical positions, and ignores the fact that Trump has contradicted nearly every position he has taken), and he is overly charitable by picking the most appealing-to-progressives positions for Trump that one could pick. He suggestions about what to do are basically the standard suggestions he’s been writing about for years (which are good, but not new).
lamh36
@Baud: really…more boos…? naw…I don’t know about that.
Kropadope
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
I love the authoritarian streak around here. People have a right to non-violent protest and the elected delegates have a right to be at the convention.
Patricia Kayden
@Mike J: Yep. Bernie Bros are in the bag with the White Supremacists/MRA folks. The “cuck” term gives it away.
Baud
@lamh36: The booers are a minority of the minority. They would be drowned out by the cheers.
Probably won’t happen tho.
Patricia Kayden
@Baud: They probably know how to hide their mess so it won’t be leaked.
@Major Major Major Major: Magic gnome logic.
Gin & Tonic
@Original Lee: Can’t help wondering about the silence of the Richard Perle wing of the Republican party, the old Committee on the Present Danger crowd. Yeah, I know Jeane Kirkpatrick is dead, and a lot of the others, but many aren’t. And it’s complete radio silence.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kropadope: people certainly have a right to act like whiny spoiled children and put their delusions of martyrdom on display. And I have a right to mock them for being whiny, delusional, spoiled children. That’s not “authoritarianism’, you half-witted little clown.
MomSense
@Baud:
My fantasy is that Michelle kills her speech and there is such a delay because of all the cheering that Bernie has to start late and everyone goes home or turns off the tv.
It was kind of stupid for Sanders to make a stink so he could be the 10pm slot. Why would anyone whose last name isn’t Obama want to follow Michelle??
BR
The irony of all of this for me is that my actual policy views are to the left of Sanders (and to the left of all Sanders supporters I’ve spoken with who are confused and dismissive when I say I couldn’t support him in the primary) and yet this whole episode has made me less likely to make common cause with them about things they and I share because I wouldn’t trust them to be good faith partners. That actually sets back progress of the causes they believe in — I don’t know, but I’m not sure I’m alone in that view.
raven
@Kropadope: Fucking crybaby ass motherfucker.
Kropadope
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Silencing dissent is absolutely authoritarianism. You did read what you wrote, right?
delphinium
@Baud: The booers are a minority of the minority.
Yup, the 24-hour pouty people.
Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap
@BR:
Nope, I agree.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Nina Turner is still an apparatchik, but she actually sounds like reality-based person for the first time in months. She’s like a different person.
Kropadope
@raven: Mocking people for fascist tendencies isn’t crying. Beyond that, what exactly do you think it is I’m crying about? I support the nominee and have loved the speakers. Sorry for calling out your wannabe jackboot thug friend.
Truegster
As someone who gave hundreds to Bernie right until the primary math made it impossible, I am pissed that these Berners can’t grow the F up.
“Progressives” finally get a cartoonish idiot to fight and a progressive platform and they can’t take yes for an answer.
Almost every Berner I talk to acts as if I’m the naive one now. Bernie brought this on by being coy and annoying as F about the reality of losing and sold them a bill of goods he couldn’t deliver.
As a former Bernie fan, these fools now on the Convention floor don’t represent how I feel. Even in Texas, I’m voting for Hillary.
JPL
I want Michelle to begin her speech with this
and then say sorry, that was from 2008, but let me continue…………………
MomSense
@BR: @Tilda Swinton’s Bald Cap: Me three.
raven
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: And you believe her horse shit about “hurt feelings”? Nothing anyone can do is going to make one bit of difference to these pouty bourgeois fuckers.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kropadope: THey’re delegates to a political convention, they have a vote, they just don’t have as many as Clinton’s side, and they don’t like that so they’re putting on a silly show. They’re on national television. Every reporter in the room would love to give them a platform to whine and snivel on. They aren’t being “silenced” except by their own infantile histrionics. You fucking idiot.
I am genuinely gobsmacked by your stupidity.
ETA:
I was embarrassed for her when she started with that emo horseshit.
amk
@Kropadope: Were they silenced at convention? Stop imagining things based on what you read on blogs.
Omnes Omnibus
@Kropadope:
In what way is he silencing them or advocating silencing them?
Baud
Watching C-SPAN. I don’t miss MSNBC.
raven
@Kropadope: Ooooo, “mocking” boogie boogie. That “hurts their feelings too”. Fuck em, same fuckers that supported Nader.
Anya
Let the fun begin.
Is MSNBC little better than CNN? I like Dan Pfeiffer and I appreciate the gentle way he deals with that lunatic Trump supporter Kaylie, (she’s impervious to facts), but I just can’t take her lying Barbie ass.
geg6
@Patricia Kayden:
I’ve been saying this for months and months. Good to them out themselves once and for all.
eric
@BR: Yes. I accept pragmatic constraints on my liberalism because that is the world i live in. People and countries have histories that cannot be escaped with a vote or a wave of the hand. I want a world of universal health care, sane foreign policy, human rights for all people, but I accept that movement will be hard and stilted because there are others who want anything but those things. To fight and win is to make measured steps. What I, and I think many other liberal people, resent is being lectured on what it means to be liberal and care about justice. I fucking care assholes, I just realize that we are still within a lifetime of concentration camps, near nuclear war, killing fields, the deposing of an Iranian leader by my government, the right of people of color to more meaningfully participate in American society. I get injustice you self righteous twits, but we can never lose to fascism because we have seen that of which it is capable.
raven
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: She’s been on it for weeks.
Roger Moore
@BR:
You certainly are not the only one to think that way. It’s hard to make deals with people who don’t understand that deals are an essential part of the political process.
Baud
Hillary video about opioid epidemic.
Major Major Major Major
@BR: My policy preferences are all over the map (well, from ‘slightly to the right of Hillary’ to ‘nationalize the telecoms’), but generally somewhere between Bernie and Hillary. And I agree.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
Nicole Wallace just said it’s “unfortunate” that Bernie’s antics may have hurt Hillary. Interesting.
And Eugene Robinson mocks Nina Turner’s emo spiel. He’s fantastic.
Kropadope
@Omnes Omnibus: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Are you people broken? I never said they were being silenced at the convention. The Democrats have more sense than that. Jim advocated for silencing them. Not o silencing them, but using physical implements to force them into silence. Silencing dissent is a common theme around Balloon Juice. I’m sorry the Democrats won’t become the fascist party you want.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
You are a very strange little person. You do know I’m talking about the preening frauds who have taped their own mouths shut?
Seriously, put down the bottle
Kropadope
@raven: What are you on about. I was mocking Jim, that’s the mockery I was talking about. You may not have understood because you were stuck on your false framing.
Mike J
@delphinium:
A new meaning for Madchester.
RaflW
@lamh36: Assange is certainly a paragon of credibility.
BR
I don’t get why the saner Sanders delegates haven’t approached the crazy ones and had a chat. It seems like now’s the time…
amk
@Kropadope:
Once again, not true. Wish it were. Because 2×7 whine/butthurt is not dissent.
BR
Oh and a dumb question — when do they officially nominate Clinton and Kaine?
Omnes Omnibus
@Kropadope:
Where in that comment did he advocate silencing anyone?
Percysowner
Nina Turner makes me a little nuts. Certain Bernie supporters “feelings are hurt”? More people voted for Hillary than voted for Bernie. I am damn sure that if Bernie had pulled it out that they would have given one flying F about Hillary supporters feelings. And Hillary would have sucked it up and thrown her full support behind Bernie while smiling. But we’re just women, and our feelings are always hurt while the remaining Bernie hard liners are different. Their feelings matter, mostly because a lot of them are Bros and because it hurts their feelings when an old white man loses to a woman.
Kropadope
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
No, I didn’t. I misread. My mistake.
Emma
@Kropadope: No. He was mocking their little tape-over-the-mouth trick. Mocking. Making fun. Pointing out how stupid they looked.
And you know it, because you’re not stupid.
Mnemosyne
@MomSense:
Key and Peele once did a sketch about the (not real) guy who ends up having to follow MLK’s “I Have A Dream Speech.” It’s apparently a recurring nightmare of comedians to have to follow someone who just kills the room and then the audience couldn’t care less.
I hope Bernie has to live that nightmare tonight after the one-two punch of Elizabeth Warren and Michelle Obama. For Democrats, that’s like having to go on after Prince AND David Bowie both played.
(Feel free to substitute your own musical references.)
raven
@Emma: How do you know it’s not stupid?
Quinerly
@Truegster:
Great post at 45. You made me smile. Thank you.
WaterGirl
Richard Trumpka is good!
Kropadope
@Emma:
I didn’t know it, because I’m paying attention to the convention speakers rather than the protestors.
Quinerly
@Mnemosyne:
I think they have changed the schedule because he wanted more time. They have had to bump Michelle to after him. Not really the back of the bus, but kinda. ? He whined today about going before her. Schedule has been changed.
Mnemosyne
@Kropadope:
Oh, I didn’t realize they were protesting Trump. I thought they were chanting “No TPP” while Elijah Cummings talked about Black Lives Matter. My bad.
chopper
@Major Major Major Major:
I guess 600 posts is a “Samwise Unit”
Mnemosyne
@Quinerly:
Now I’m confused — is he speaking before Mrs. Obama or after her? The initial schedule was that it would be Warren, Sanders, and then Michelle Obama. Then the reports were that he demanded the final spot so it will now be Warren, Michelle Obama, and Sanders.
WaterGirl
@MomSense:
Absolutely!
Can’t you just see Barack and Michelle… you go first, no you go first.
debbie
@JPL:
“Stop me if you’ve heard this one before…”?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kropadope: a true Bernista, you don’t bother to find out what the hell you’re talking about before developing a passionate (and confrontational) attitude about it.
@Mnemosyne: MSNBC has a chyron that MO is about to speak, as if she’s on deck. I was gonna google a schedule but I gather it’s all banjaxed.
Quinerly
@Emma:
I have severed friendship with a BS supporter who is insistent that Trump is a CLINTON plant so that either way the Clintons win. He thinks the joke is on Clinton now because if Trump is elected the original deal will be broken and she won’t be able to control him. He’s voting for Stein (out of principle) but hopes Trump wins so HRC’s plot will be foiled. Grown man in his 60’s, long time Dem who worshipped Obama. I’m in shock. Is this a conspiracy theory anyone has heard?
Emma
@Kropadope: But you jumped in anyway? Ok, I apologize. There have been times when I’ve jumped in without quite having the whole picture.
Quinerly
@Mnemosyne:
New schedule as I understood it is he wanted more time in primetime and didn’t want to go after Michelle. If I could get off of BJ maybe the internet will tell me something. I had a typo in that original comment. I think it’s Warren, Sanders, Michelle. Sorry that I am confusing everyone.
Kropadope
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: I made a mistake because I misread what you wrote and I owned up to it immediately upon realizing it. I didn’t dig in like you tend to.
@Emma: You’ve never misunderstood something you were reading? If I had correctly interpreted the statement, I probably would have kept scrolling. If I came up with some other reason to take an interest, though, I would’ve looked into it more
Chyron HR
@Kropadope:
Can you just go back to screaming that you want to live in “Trump’s America”? At least that was honest.
Emma
@Quinerly: I’ve heard said as a joke. Hell, I’ve said it myself as a joke. But I didn’t realize some people were taking it seriously. I guess DSM-VI will have to address Clinton Derangement Syndrome.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kropadope: well, I guess that’s as much as an apology as an emotionally stunted eom-bunny like you can manage. I accept.
Now try black coffee. Decaf.
Baud
@Emma: That will constitute the entire second volume.
WaterGirl
@Mnemosyne: It’s Warren, Michelle Obama, and then Sanders.
Miss Bianca
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: you know, for a shameless political hack, Frum’s not a bad writer.
Cacti
The most striking thing about the BernieBro tantrum, IMO, is their level of complete vitriol toward Clinton vs. how utterly respectful she has been to Sanders throughout the entire campaign.
Miss Bianca
@BR:
Pretty much sums up my situation and position.
Kropadope
@Jim, Foolish Literalist: Oh, no, you don’t get an apology. Those are for when I fuck up talking to someone I respect.
Major Major Major Major
@chopper: Ooh, I like!
Baud
@Cacti: She’s been great. I’ve been very impressed.
Emma
@Kropadope: Hey, I apologized! For god’s sake, learn to take yes for an answer!
Karmus
@Kropadope:
Good for you. We need a lot more of that from a lot of quarters before November.
ETA: Or not? I’m confused now. Off I go to do something mindless. Also, more wine.
Quinerly
OK, I have a legitimate question. Once we get her officially nominated with the roll call tomorrow and if some of these Bernie delegates are still booing and being disruptive, can their credentials be taken away? That way they are denied admission on Wed and Thurs for the main speeches. Does anyone know the protocol on this and what could be done? I’m hoping they are getting it out of their system but clearly both the Clinton and Sanders’ campaign have been caught off guard with this.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@Kropadope: too late, no takesy-backsies. You apologized to me. I accept. I forgive you.
Quinerly
@Cacti:
You comment at #97 is on target. It has amazed me how Bernie has been coddled and handled with kid gloves. I blame him for this. He created this. At one time I thought he had ulterior motives. Now I think he’s not too bright.
Quinerly
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
The BS delegate with the tape over her mouth was ridiculous. I hope she turns blue….physically blue.
David Byron Hopson
@BR: You’re *not* alone in that view.
Anne Laurie
@BR:
Bing-bing-bing! You, sir or madam, have discerned the hidden clue!
Hell, some of us Hillbots have been saying the same damned thing since Bernie became Flavor-of-the-Progressive-Week. We remember these jagoffs, and their parents/grandparents, pulling the same crap back in the 1970s.
Never trust anyone who treats politics as a fashion statement.
Anne Laurie
@Kropadope:
That people have grown tired of your “Bold Contrarian” cosplay.
Even SRV is a better troll than you are; at least *it* finds new shiny wrappers to disguise its constant turd-dropping.
Mnemosyne
@Jim, Foolish Literalist:
Why must you make me laugh out loud at work? Why!
PurpleGirl
@Major Major Major Major:
Oh and you guys sure did love my cat! Almost 600 posts! Wow!
Well, it’s really nice to start the morning with a critter picture and her/his position was adorable. You know this crew, we love critters and want to let the hoomin know that we appreciate seeing the picture.
And your kitteh made us smile and laugh.
Kropadope
@Emma: Oh, I’m sorry, that might’ve sounded a little harsher than I meant it.
@Anne Laurie: What do you mean cosplay? Is it so hard to believe that I have opinions that don’t break cleanly into one of two parties with a pretty arbitrary division of positions?
Feebog
@Kropadope:
Rule no. 1. When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging.
Rule no. 2. Have the common sense to climb out of the hole.