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Open Thread: TrumpCo’s Pentagon Chooses Its Press Corpse Corps

by Anne Laurie|  October 25, 20255:42 pm| 35 Comments

This post is in: Media, Military, Open Threads, Republican Politics, Trump Crime Cartel

Easy to overlook this particular ‘autocracy in action’ thread amidst the spate of recent outrages…

The time of the legitimate White House Press Corps would be better spent investigating real stories about the Trump Admin than hanging around asking these lying bozos questions.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) October 23, 2025 at 12:14 PM

Per the Poynter Institute, “The Pentagon’s new press corps — journalists or advocates?”:

For years, the Department of Defense — one of the most important, scrutinized and reported-on departments in our government — has been covered extensively by reporters from inside the Pentagon. This included journalists from some of the most respected and accomplished news outlets in the business, such as The New York Times, The Washington Post, NBC, CBS, ABC, and CNN, just to name a few. In fact, CBS’s Eleanor Watson noted, “During D-Day, CBS News radio correspondent Joseph F. McCaffrey reported live from the Pentagon about the strategy and General Dwight D. Eisenhower’s background.”…

But those outlets are no longer in the Pentagon after refusing to sign a new press policy that prohibits journalists from accessing or soliciting information that the Defense Department doesn’t make available to them, including even unclassified information.

It’s troubling which news outlets are no longer at the Pentagon.

Just as troubling is which outlets and so-called “journalists” are.

In a statement on Wednesday, Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell said more than 60 journalists have agreed to the new rules. He wrote that they represent “a broad spectrum of new media outlets and independent journalists.”…

According to the Post’s Harwell and Scott Nover, the outlets now supposedly doing the digging and working the halls inside the Pentagon include Tim Pool’s Timcast, the Gateway Pundit, the Post Millennial, Human Events, the National Pulse, Turning Point USA and a Substack newsletter called Washington Reporter. Then there’s ​​the very pro-Trump One America News, the Federalist and the Epoch Times. It also includes Lindell TV — as in Mike Lindell, the MyPillow guy and ardent supporter of President Donald Trump. And, the Pentagon said, there are a bunch of “independent journalists.” Although none were mentioned by name, it’s a good guess to say that the “independent journalists” are certainly big on “independent” but not so big on “journalists.”

All are clearly OK with the Pentagon’s press restrictions. That alone should make anyone question their journalistic chops. Meanwhile, most of them have proven to be strong supporters of Trump, his administration and the entire MAGA movement…

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As I wrote last week, just because places like The New York Times, The Washington Post and the networks are no longer inside the Pentagon doesn’t mean those places will stop reporting on the Department of Defense. But, undoubtedly, their jobs just got a tad bit harder in terms of having access to those they cover.

They aren’t, however, going to give up, even though Parnell claimed those who didn’t sign the new policy “self-deport(ed)” from the Pentagon.

Barbara Starr, who covered the Pentagon at CNN for two decades and served as a board member of the Pentagon Press Association, tweeted, “First we wish any legitimate journalist well on their journey to cover the news. But ‘your’ government announcement of a next gen press corps is shall we say beyond odd. The Pentagon press corps still is working every day no matter how afraid of it you all seem to be. ‘Self deport’? Naw. Too busy working!”…

Here's who @scottnover.bsky.social and I have confirmed so far.
All right-wing bloggers and influencers who
* agreed to the press restrictions refused by established reporters
* are known for soft-touch treatment of the Trump administration
* will now get special access to the "Department of War"

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— Drew Harwell (@drewharwell.com) October 22, 2025 at 2:13 PM

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An important thing about these rw grifting types is not only are they intellectually dishonest, they're really fucking lazy.
So this is gonna be something.

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— Schnorkles O'Bork (@schnorkles.bsky.social) October 23, 2025 at 10:44 AM

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Extremely funny that INFOWARS has agreed not to publish anything without the explicit consent of the US government

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— Simon Little ?? (@simonplittle.ca) October 23, 2025 at 1:52 PM

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lots of little hairline cracks starting to show

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— GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) October 16, 2025 at 3:18 PM

this woman's not going to become a democrat or anything, but demoralizing the base so that, say, one in ten stay home is a landslide win

— GHOULLIKEHELLMACHINE (@golikehellmachine.com) October 16, 2025 at 3:21 PM

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Operation Voter Intimidation

by Betty Cracker|  October 25, 20252:55 pm| 71 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Venality, Assholes

A few weeks ago in an interview I saw on TV, Illinois Gov. JB Pritzker was asked why Trump is deploying federal troops in Chicago and other American cities. Pritzker said he thinks Trump wants to normalize troops in the streets, in part so he can use a show of force to intimidate voters in upcoming elections that are likely to go badly for Republicans.

The corrupt Department of Justice added another proof point for the Great Khan’s* theory in a press release that dropped yesterday:

Justice Department to Monitor Polling Sites in California, New Jersey

WASHINGTON – Today, the Department of Justice announced that it will monitor polling sites in six jurisdictions ahead of the upcoming November 4, 2025, general election to ensure transparency, ballot security, and compliance with federal law…

At this time, the Department will monitor the following jurisdictions:

Passaic County, New Jersey
Kern County, California
Riverside County, California
Fresno County, California
Orange County, California
Los Angeles County, California

At Attorney General Pamela Bondi’s direction, this effort will be overseen by the Department of Justice’s Civil Rights Division under the leadership of Assistant Attorney General Harmeet K. Dhillon. The Division will deploy Civil Rights personnel who will coordinate with U.S. Attorney’s Offices.

It’s important to note that both Bondi and Dhillon are 2020 election deniers. Neither is dumb enough to sincerely believe Trump won in 2020; they are rabid ideologues who have proved willing to subvert democracy for partisan gain.

I’m trying to figure out the significance of their using the DOJ’s Civil Rights division for this operation, if any. Is it that employees of that division have been idled since 1/20/2025 since the administration is actively hostile to the concept of civil rights, so that unit has the capacity? Or will they go all the way through the funhouse mirror and allege white votes are being suppressed?

I suspect we’ll see even more corrupt and overtly anti-democratic antics from Trump and his flunkies as the backlash to his unpopular agenda builds. Don’t know what we average citizens can do to counter voter intimidation, except maybe volunteer to transport and/or accompany voters who might be targeted for harassment to the polls, help folks sign up for vote by mail where available, etc.

Please feel free to share ideas. Otherwise, open thread.

*Did y’all hear about that time the Great Khan sacked Las Vegas? As a friend on Bluesky noted, surely he has the mandate of heaven! 

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Mark Your Calendars for the Wednesday Series on Artificial Intelligence

by WaterGirl|  October 25, 20252:00 pm| 21 Comments

This post is in: Artificial Intelligence, Open Threads, Science & Technology

Okay, so we have a plan for the series on Artificial Intelligence that was proposed in the post earlier this week.

Artificial Intelligence: A Question for Balloon Juice Peeps

This will be a 7-part series.  It’s the same material as the outline that showed 5 parts, just broken into 7 posts instead of 5 parts.

So if you’re interested, mark your calendars for Wednesdays at 7:30 pm.  (blog time)

Part 1:  Oct 29
Part 2:  Nov 5
Part 3:  Nov 12
Part 4:  Nov 19

skip Thanksgiving week

Part 5:  Dec 3
Part 6:  Dec 10
Part 7:  Dec 17

Revised Outline

Post 1: What is AI, And How Did We Get Here

  • Who am I, what do I do, and why do I think I have anything useful to say about AI?
  • Overview of series
  • What is AI?
    • Modern “AI” is all deep learning, which is all machine learning, which is all statistical learning. There is no reasoning, or anything else analogizable to human cognition, beyond “learning”. For the purposes of these posts, we will stick to the term “machine learning,” and avoid the obnoxious term AI (except in scare quotes) because that term only brings business/funding/marketing distractions into a discussion that I would like to keep as technically sound as I can.
    • That said, machine learning represents a very powerful set of techniques for assimilating masses of data, and structuring reasonable decisions based on that data.
  • A brief history of the deep learning revolution.
    • The state of play in applied mathematics and statistics before the revolution
    • The computer scientists see an opportunity seize the day
    • Incredible achievements, blinding speed of progress
    • Costs and benefits of progress.
      • Benefits:
        • Solutions to problems previously regarded as insoluble (image classification, natural language processing, voice processing, high-dimensional modeling, many others)
        • Solutions to hard scientific problems (protein folding, experiment design and control, literature search, climate/weather modeling, many others)
      • Costs:
        • The abandonment of scientific epistemology
        • The embrace of heuristics over algorithms
        • The analogy to financial mathematics
        • Goodbye to Model Correctness, Model Verification, Model Validation.

Post 2: “AI” State of Play

  • Different types of data, different approaches, different levels of success
  • Two outlooks on machine learning: Model-Centric (the consensus view) and “Data-Centric” (the rebel alliance :-) ). Description of the differences in these outlooks, and in some of the research agenda consequences.
  • The data-centric view informs the remainder of the discussion. So this is going to sound like a very strange story to anyone who has been following developments in “AI”, irrespective of their level of technical literacy.
  • Where are we today in “AI”?
    • The current research/investment landscape focuses on language models (tokenized data)
      • The shock of OpenAI’s GPT models, ChatGPT
      • The embarrasment of “hallucinations”
      • Hyperscaling
      • The research/business consensus: hyperscaling will remove hallucinations, reach “Artificial General Intelligence” (“AGI”)
  • Does this story make sense?
    • The Underwear Gnomes: …Profit!
    • The problem of science&technology groupthink
    • The corruption of scientific discourse by Tech company business interests. The analogies to climate science, and to the Tobacco Institute.

Post 3: There is no AGI Down This Road

  • At least, there is no scientifically credible case that computer reasoning that can even theoretically emerge from machine learning. And reasoning is a necessary condition for AGI.
  • The circular argument for LLM “reasoning”
  • The sheer implausibility of the “Learning to AGI” hypothesis
    • On inverse problems
    • The inverse problem from language to cognition
    • The absurdity of transformers as tools for solving the required inverse problem, and as mediums for embodying the solution
  • Claims for “General Intelligence” in chatbot output are pure, ascientific bullshit, as in “not even wrong.” Those claims are nonetheless taken very seriously by the “AI” research community.

Post 4: If There Were AGI, What Would It Look Like

  • What is “learning”. Bayesian updating, in words rather than with equations
  • What could reasoning actually mean in this context?
    • The discontinuity of “Aha!”
    • Machine learning is a continuous process that doesn’t do “Aha!”
  • How might one go about getting to “Artificial Aha!” (AA!)
    • Reasoning as Model Reform
    • Reasoning as Evidence Reform
  • AGI may be possible by other means, but that isn’t where we are going currently. “AI” is machine learning technology, and reasoning essentially transcends learning.

Post 5: Hallucinations

  • What are “AI Hallucinations”
    • Some fun examples. Legal briefs, homework, airline bookings…
  • Why are hallucinations a problem?
    • If reasoning really “emerges” from learning, why is it so crippled, and how could it be cured of mental illness?
  • Natural Language Processing (NLP). History of the transformer architecture, the attention mechanism.
  • Approximating the distribution of text.
  • The sampling dilemma: most probable words vs. most probable sentences vs. most probable paragraphs, etc.
  • Why is the approximation to the distribution so bad? Token embedding. Euclidean corruption of token sequences. Examples.
  • Hallucinations are never going away: they are a structural feature of all current approaches to NLP. You can’t train your way out of them with more data, and you cant bejigger the code to fix them.

Post 6: The Pathology At The Heart Of Hyperscaling

  • The hyperscaling consensus.
    • Insane investments. Compute, power, human effort.
    • Buy-in to the consensus beyond the Tech Industry (academia and govvernment)
    • The costs:
      • Academia is shut out of “AI” research, due to costs.
      • Government very nearly is as well
      • Investors, fund managers, capital, committed to an outlook wherein $300-400B/year for the next 5-10 years required to develop and train models. 60GW of additional electrical generation expected for the US alone, just to keep the GPUs running.
  • The data inefficiency of deep learning/neural network methods
    • Overparametrization has costs and benefits:
      • Easy to learn and exploit vector/image, natural science data.
      • Unaffordably hard to learn/exploit natural language data
  • What have we learned from transformers?
    • Natural language can in fact be modeled.
    • If we keep doing it this way, the cost in power, effort, and money is unaffordable.
  • Why are we not looking for alternatives?
    • Riff on groupthink
    • What might an alternative approach look like?

Post 7: AI Winter III in 5, 4, 3,…

  • The historical cycles of the previous 2 “AI Winters”.
      1. Progress, (2) excitement, (3) investment, (4) hype, (5) disillusionment, (6) disinvestment+wringing of hands
    • We appear to be at the beginnings of stage (5). See Ed Zitron’s blog.
  • The basic story that justifies the crazy investments in AI is that hyperscaling and more data will abate hallucinations and achieve AGI. AGI will cause markets to arise that amortize those investments, and reward the players that made them (and punish those that di not)
  • This argument is wrong, for technical reasons.
    • There is no AGI on this technological path
    • Hallucinations are a structural feature of all current “AI”, and cannot be trained or finessed away
    • Hyperscaling, which is driven by the pathologically inefficient use of data made by transformers, only means that it will take an infinite amount of time, compute, money, energy, and effort to get to the end ofthis rainbow and discover that there is no pot of gold labelled “AGI, Profit!” there.
  • Ultimately, however, historical evidence indicates that the dispositive argument will be financial rather than technical. Investors are going to lose confidence in an industry that cannot figure out how any player can be profitable (again, see Zitron). The reasons for their failure are ultimately technical, but the agents who close down the show will be financiers and shareholders who don’t like how their money is being spent.
    • My guess is that the reckoning, and AI Winter III, are coming in 2026. Don’t make any investment decisions based on what I write, though.
  • Then what?
    • Getting research out from under the corrupting influence of the tech industry
    • Babies and bathwater.

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Saturday Afternoon Open Thread

by WaterGirl|  October 25, 202512:57 pm| 74 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Here you go!

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How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

by WaterGirl|  October 25, 202511:50 am| 56 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Response to Trump 2.0, Open Threads, Politics

I think talking about the mental decline of FFOTUS is something we should be doing on a regular basis.  Don’t make it political.

  • I think the President is off his rocker.
  • I don’t know what happened, but he’s just not making sense anymore.
  • I’m kind of worried about the President’s mental health, seems like it’s going downhill.
  • Did you see the President rambling the other day? It seemed like he didn’t even know where he was.
  • I wonder if the strain of the office is getting to him, I heard the president say some crazy stuff yesterday.

Pick one, make up your own, but drop it everywhere you can.

It’s the new “It’s the economy, stupid!”

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No, wait.  It’s Epstein, Epstein, Epstein.

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No, it’s healthcare, and they are killing people with their evil policies.

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No, it the breathtaking lawlessness.

We don’t declare war, we just murder people.  Like, you know, dead.


How do you decide what to do when you’re experiencing a flood, a hurricane, an earthquake, a tornado, and a tsunami all at once?

One thing we can do is come up with “hit and run” statements for all of the categories listed.  Then we can have them at our fingertips to drop, whatever feels most relevant on any given day.

It can be our own little à la carte menu.

 

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We Do More Than Wring Our Hands and Rage at the Madness

by WaterGirl|  October 25, 202511:02 am| 20 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Political Action, Politics

We’re approaching the holiday season – let’s talk about gifts that keep on giving.

Who are some of the Attorneys General that are suing the Administration for abuses of power?

People that we helped elect thru direct donations and through our support of boots on the ground organizations in those states.

What is the latest state to help fight the steal of elections by Republican gerrymandering in TX and elsewhere – to rig the game in 2026?

Virginia!

The Virginia Senate majority leader is leading the charge in Virginia to offset the recent gerrymandering in TX and elsewhere.  Why is he able to do that?  

Because Democrats gained the (slim) majority in the Virginia Senate and the Virginia House in 2023.  We directly supported candidates in two key races for the VA House, and we supported boots on the ground organizations in VA.

We need to keep stepping up, and we can’t let the frustration and discouragement and anger at all the destruction that is occurring day after day after day keep us from making a positive difference.

Not suggesting that we all have to agree on everything, but I would love to see us leave the infighting behind – it saps our energy and creates rifts that we can’t afford if we are going to win this fight.  I would love to see us get back to making a difference.

Let’s save the rocks in our pockets for the Republicans.

Let’s turn anger into action.

More details about Virginia from the Status Kuo – click to read the whole thing.

Virginia to the Rescue

That’s why I let out a little cheer when a news alert popped up on my screen yesterday: Virginia was moving to act.

Blue seats, from out of the blue

In a surprise move yesterday, the Virginia Senate majority leader, Scott Surovell, announced that his state would seek to redraw its congressional map in time for the 2026 midterms. “We are coming back to address actions by the Trump administration,” Surovell declared, referring to a special legislative session that Democrats would convene.

My first thought was “Yay!” But my second thought was, “How on earth?”

Virginia was not on anyone’s list of “most likely to Avengers Assemble” in this moment of dire need. That’s because the governor, Glenn Youngkin, who is a Republican, wasn’t about to call a special session to push redistricting. And earlier this summer, the Democratic candidate for governor, Abigail Spanberger, had thrown cold water on the idea of a mid-decade redistricting, indicating that she had “no plans” to push such an effort.

And time was running out. Under Virginia’s state constitution, to get an amendment on the ballot, the authorizing legislation has to pass twice—once before both houses of the General Assembly (the House of Delegates and the state Senate) and then again after the election of the next General Assembly.

I figured such a hurry up offense was pretty much impossible with just 11 days to go before the election. Virginia, it seemed, would have to wait, just like New York which has also has a cumbersome dual-session process to amend its state constitution.

What I didn’t consider—and what I hope some brilliant legislative staffer figured out (if so, please give them a raise!)—was the possibility of a special legislative session that the Democrats could call on their own.

Let’s play some inside legislative baseball to explain what happened. It’s all really quite amazing, and the GOP is fuming mad which makes it even more delightful.

 

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Saturday Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  October 25, 20255:15 am| 234 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Show Us on the Doll Where the Invisible Hand Touched You, Our Failed Media Experiment

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— Hillary Rodham Clinton (@hillaryclinton.bsky.social) October 24, 2025 at 9:14 AM

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BREAKING: Social Security recipients will get a 2.8% cost-of-living boost in 2026, reflecting an average increase of $56 per month.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) October 24, 2025 at 9:07 AM

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Inflation under Biden: "Should the President be fired out of a cannon or merely tarred and feathered?"
Inflation under Trump: "Well, pobody's nerfect!"

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— ArgellaStone but Spooky (@argellastone.bsky.social) October 24, 2025 at 2:49 PM

The American public, having decided they hated inflation combined with their paychecks going up, are now going to be getting inflation and also losing their jobs.
Let's see if they enjoy that more.

— ArgellaStone but Spooky (@argellastone.bsky.social) October 24, 2025 at 2:50 PM

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The University of Michigan's Consumer Sentiment index fell -1.5 points in October to 53.6, its lowest level since May. That's down -24.0% from a year ago.

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— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec.bsky.social) October 24, 2025 at 12:17 PM

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Trump's favorability has fallen among Hispanics, an AP-NORC poll finds, after the key group helped his return to the White House.

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— The Associated Press (@apnews.com) October 24, 2025 at 7:48 AM

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But Trump gets a ballroom and Argentina gets a $40 billion bailout

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— Senator Ron Wyden (@wyden.senate.gov) October 24, 2025 at 8:41 PM

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