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Beware of advice from anyone for whom Democrats are “they” and not “we.”

Conservatism: there are people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

Fear or fury? The choice is ours.

Every reporter and pundit should have to declare if they ever vacationed with a billionaire.

We’re watching the self-immolation of the leading world power on a level unprecedented in human history.

Celebrate the fucking wins.

🎶 Those boots were made for mockin’ 🎵

Speaker Mike Johnson is a vile traitor to the House and the Constitution.

That’s my take and I am available for criticism at this time.

Sadly, media malpractice has become standard practice.

The fundamental promise of conservatism all over the world is a return to an idealized past that never existed.

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

I’d like to think you all would remain faithful to me if i ever tried to have some of you killed.

I desperately hope that, yet again, i am wrong.

Republicans don’t lie to be believed, they lie to be repeated.

A norm that restrains only one side really is not a norm – it is a trap.

We do not need to pander to people who do not like what we stand for.

Stay strong, because they are weak.

The cruelty is the point; the law be damned.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

DeSantis transforming Florida into 1930s Germany with gators and theme parks.

Republicans do not pay their debts.

Not rolling over. fuck you, make me.

Every one of the “Roberts Six” lied to get on the court.

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Saturday Night Open Thread: Chomp Chomp Chomp!

by Anne Laurie|  February 1, 20257:43 pm| 296 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Trumpery

Leopard: I will eat your face
Bank analysts: Our baseline assumes no face-eating
Leopard: Chomp chomp chomp

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— Paul Krugman (@pkrugman.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 12:12 PM

There’s people who are going to be hurt by Trump/Musk tariffs who don’t deserve it. But, I suspect, the people most offended by any economic pain are gonna be Trump voters and Trump enablers…

Here’s a problem w Nazi comparisons (& a reason to not despair):
When the Nazis took over they had 2m SA stormtroopers. Many were WWI combat veterans. That’d be like 10 million street fighters, many unemployed, hardened by participating in 15 years of political violence, fighting for Musk & Trump/1

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:09 PM

On top of the huge force of street fighters, Hitler took charge of a civil service filled with conservative German nationalists. He purged Jews & political opponents, but that was <10%, & he didn’t eliminate huge parts of the state apparatus & services. In fact, the bureaucracy got larger…/2

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:14 PM

…under the Nazis, bc they essentially added party operatives in to the existing bureaucracy.

And for everyday life, if you weren’t Jewish or gay or a political opponent of the Nazis or a trade unionists for a few years your life probably got materially better. Govt spending (much of it military)/3

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:18 PM

…helped lift Germany out of the depression. That’s the opposite of causing a recession or worse.

Most regimes consolidate power. But they typically do it in steps, & they try to avoid inflicting pain on the mass of the population. What Musk/Trump are doing is pissing off or even hurting…/4

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:21 PM

…much of their political base.

Of course, that gets at a fundamental difference here vs most authoritarian regimes: this is an evolving oligarchy. And there aren’t many examples of that in modern history. There’s no mass movement to destroy the administrative state, none of this is in response…/5

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:25 PM

…to a cataclysmic event or rapid modernization or anything like that. There isn’t mass support for what they’re doing, & it’s going to hurt nearly everyone, even the very wealthy, bc Musk/Trump are stupid & they don’t have a largely allied bureaucracy.

They’re going to be hugely unpopular…/6

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:29 PM

…& even dictatorships are sensitive to public opinion. And these guys are too stupid to do any of this well.

They’re evil & their incompetence is dangerous. But they don’t have the political support or apparatus to impose much. Our struggle is to keep them from stealing & breaking everything /7

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:35 PM

They love trolling & being indignant. Few get off their couch.

— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) February 1, 2025 at 5:46 PM

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Zoom with Author and Journalist Elle Reeve on 2/15 and 3/1

by WaterGirl|  February 1, 20253:47 pm| 5 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Announcing two Balloon Juice zooms with Elle Reeves to talk about her book.

Black Pill: How I Witnessed the Darkest Corners of the Internet Come to Life, Poison Society, and Capture American Politics

First zoom:  Saturday, February 15 at 3:30 pm Eastern time.  Charlottesville in 2017.

Second zoom:  Saturday, March 1 at 3:30 pm Eastern time.  Insurrection on Jan 6, 2021.

We won’t just look backwards, we’ll talk about what we can learn from the those events that we can use going forward.

To attend, please RSVP by email to WaterGirl at balloon-juice.com


Who is Elle Reeve, and why would you want to read her book?

Let’s see.  For starters, Cole has known Elle Reeve for a long time, she’s written a terrific book, and we’re lucky that she is up for having a couple of book club zooms.

We also know she’s smart, because when I asked her to send me a blurb that I could use for this post, she enlisted a friend of hers to write it for her.  Self-promotion is hard; outsource whenever possible!

“Named one of the best books of 2024 by The Washington Post, Elle Reeve’s Black Pill is a wild ride into the dark heart of political discourse on the internet and how it has come to be a decisive factor in our current politics. Over a decade of reporting, Reeve unearths hundreds of as-yet-unseen documents and exposes some of the most notorious leaders of American far right groups in dozens of hours of exclusive interviews. This unique raft of reporting goes deeper than ever to explain just how these nefarious forces conspired to propel Donald Trump to the presidency in 2016 and drove real-world political action in Charlottesville in 2017 and at the January 6 insurrection in Washington, D.C.

With this clarity comes a more nuanced understanding of not just how it all happened, but also how those who oppose creeping fascism can fight back.

Reeve’s unique voice, sharp observations, and penchant for dark humor are propulsive. Black Pill is an essential and entertaining read for anyone interested in how we got to this moment in American political history, what might happen next, and how to affect change.

Excerpt from Vanity Fair.

Link to the Washington Post review.

NYT Book Review.   (If You Want to Understand Why Democracy Is Under Attack, Read This Book.)

Excerpt in Book Riot.

The book is available on Amazon and elsewhere.  If you need a copy of the book because money is tight right now, send me an email message and I’ll pair you up with someone who is willing to sponsor a book.

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Sowing Seeds of Doubt

by Betty Cracker|  February 1, 20252:32 pm| 122 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics

As I mentioned in a post yesterday, I think Musk and other obscenely wealthy right-wing tech sociopaths like Thiel, Andreesen, et al., are more of a threat to American democracy than Trump. The orange fart cloud is merely the dirigible they used to float to the pinnacle of American power. As described in Mistermix’s earlier post, Musk is essentially leading the junta now.

It’s all so alarming and depressing. I’ll admit sometimes I’m tempted to tune it out and focus on my immediate circle for sanity’s sake. I’m not confident we’ll get a chance to rid ourselves of these unelected rulers at the ballot box. It depends on how quickly they can entrench the right-wing kleptocracy they’re busily standing up now and how soon they’ll be able to use the levers of power to suppress opposition.

I interpreted the inept rollout of the government funding “freeze” as a positive sign that the junta is out of its depth. But there are plenty of bad signs too, like the silence or loud approval of every Republican lawmaker, even as their own power as legislators is being stripped away.

If — and it’s a big IF — we get an opportunity to begin to change course via a free and fair election in 2026, beating back the junta will require voting against Republicans, obviously. But as we’ve seen, at least some elected Democrats are susceptible to Musk’s bullshit con too.

It’s possible that the junta’s blatant power grabs will reel those Democrats back in. If it doesn’t, they should face primary opponents who understand the threat the junta poses to democracy itself.

But in the meantime, one thing we can do as individuals is use our influence to puncture the Musk myth for people we know in real life. I think it’s important to do that because most people don’t see Musk and his fellow travelers for what they are, and chances are they won’t until the junta turns off a money spigot that they personally depend on.

Maybe they buy the hype about reining in government spending. Maybe they believe the bullshit about Musk being a once-in-a-generation genius inventor who engineers products that change the world.

Case in point: earlier this week, I had lunch with a relative who isn’t in the Trump cult but probably voted for him. (We butted heads on politics for decades but generally avoid talking about it now because it always ends in hard feelings, and we value our relationship.)

But the topic of Musk came up when we spotted a wankpanzer/swastikar on the road. We agreed it was absolutely hideous, but my relative made a “you’ve got to hand it to him” comment indicating she buys the Musk mystique.

So, I tried to puncture that bubble, gently at first. I said I think Musk is a “tech genius” in the same sense that Madonna is a “musical genius,” i.e., he can spot and get ahead of trends, and he’s great at self promotion. (No insult intended to Madonna, but Mozart she ain’t.)

She asked what I meant, so I elaborated, giving a thumbnail sketch of how Musk leveraged his inherited wealth to buy an interest in promising technologies and parlayed those investments into ever greater wealth, lavishly subsidized by the U.S. government.

I said that although he takes pains to portray himself as a real-life Tony Stark, Musk wasn’t personally involved in designing electric cars or creating the cool booster rockets. He’s just a guy who was born wealthy and has a real talent for getting in front of tech trends to get richer.

My relative receives Social Security and Medicare benefits, so I inquired if she was worried at all that a man with hundreds of billions of dollars — a person who has no notion of what it’s like to have to work hard at a grinding job and struggle to pay bills — might be making decisions about the size of her monthly check and particulars of her healthcare coverage.

She thinks he’s genuinely interested in rooting out waste and fraud. I told her I think he’s motivated by the horrific prospect that his tax rate might climb to double digits someday. I said I think he would screw veterans and Social Security recipients in a second if it would put more money in his pockets, even though he could spend a million dollars a day for thousands of years and still never go broke.

I don’t think I convinced her; I’m a liberal and therefore suspect. But maybe I planted a seed.

Open thread.

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Taking a Break from the News

by WaterGirl|  February 1, 20251:45 pm| 42 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Respite, Serenity Pics

In case anyone wants to take a break from the news, here are all the sidebar images from January.

In no particular order.  Click on any image to see the full-size.

Just enjoy the beauty, or also chime in with thoughts about a daily image in the sidebar.

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1 Sidebar Photos – Jan 2025 1
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On The Road - TKH - Southern Sierra High Route Part 3 2
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On The Road - Albatrossity - Snow Days 5
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For the bird and animal pics, I confess to choosing ones that reflect my mood that day.
So there are a lot of birds with attitude!

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My advice to the DNC in their election today – it’s time to turn over the table (LIVE)

by WaterGirl|  February 1, 202511:10 am| 37 Comments

This post is in: Democratic Politics, Open Threads

The election for DNC chair is today.

I googled to see if I could find more details, like the meeting time and when we might know the results.  The first thing that came up was a Politico article that is so filled with bullshit that I won’t link to it.  CNN, NTY and WP all have lame articles up.

Jamie Harrison remarks:  (paragraphs 1 and 4 are a rough transcript by me)

Jamie Harrison says in his speech that there have been people threatened about their vote.  They have been intimidated about their vote.  That folks have been having donors call and say that we’re gonna pull funding because of their vote.  Folks, in this party, there will be no tolerance for that type of behavior.

He goes on to say that the candidates themselves may not be aware of those behaviors being done on their behalf.

(skipping ahead a bit)

My friends, the other side is about fear, fraud and fascism, but we don’t do that in the Democratic Party.  If you have been guilty of saying certain things, it stops right now.   I want to establish that as the floor for today’s discussions.

I recommend fast forwarding from the beginning to Jamie Harris.

It appears that Ken Martin has more than twice the number of pledged delegates as Ben Wikler.   Ben Wikler showed a lot more fire at the candidate forum on Thursday, and I will be heartened if he emerges the winner.

There’s a decent chance that Ken Martin will win on the first ballot – he is the insider in the race.   But if not, there could be multiple ballots.  My opinion: fuck the insiders; they have gotten us nowhere good.

It’s time for the DNC to turn over the table and elect someone who doesn’t want business as usual.  I feel certain that they’ll be calling me for my recommendation any minute now!

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Saturday Morning Open Thread: Another Month Begins

by Anne Laurie|  February 1, 20259:47 am| 101 Comments

This post is in: Media, Open Threads, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Venality, Trumpery

House Dems’ superPAC is going up with this ad on cable nationally.
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— Dana Houle (@danahoule.bsky.social) January 31, 2025 at 5:17 PM

The Trump WH Occupation has elaborately upgraded its Press Secretary wetware figurehead…

She says at the end of the clip that fentanyl has killed "tens of millions of Americans." That number struck me as unlikely, so I went and looked up the CDC statistics.

Total combined drug overdose deaths from 2003 to 2023 were 1,174,835. That's over 20 years. https://t.co/W4Z3hsYpm5

— Aaron Reichlin-Melnick (@ReichlinMelnick) January 31, 2025

… and I for one hope Our Major Media is very happy with the results to date:

The Pentagon has informed its resident press corps that NBC, NYT, NPR, and Politico will “rotate out of the building” to give space to New York Post, Breitbart, OANN, and HuffPost.

NBC, who has an entire booth w/ cameras etc. pic.twitter.com/OC4H3xyGdj

— Haley Britzky (@halbritz) February 1, 2025


 

For almost three years, Karine Jean-Pierre (@K_JeanPierre) spent every day working in one of the most public jobs in the world: White House press secretary. But as she did, she also silently worked a second full-time job: navigating her ailing mother’s care.

In an exclusive… pic.twitter.com/9MvDQOUwcI

— VANITY FAIR (@VanityFair) January 21, 2025


Speaking of press secretaries, and the difference between the Democratic and Republican versions… Vanity Fair, “Karine Jean-Pierre, President Biden’s Barrier-Breaking Press Secretary, Reveals Some Truths About Her Job”:

The moment will forever be seared in my memory. It was December 1, 2022, at President and Dr. Biden’s France state dinner. That evening was the first time the administration felt a dinner was safe to host since the pandemic began. Every centerpiece seemed just a little bit brighter, every conversation a hair lighter. We were nearing the holidays, and the White House was adorned in sweeping ribbons and twinkling lights, making the night glow. My mom turned to me and said, “This is the happiest day of my life.”

She had never met President Biden, and never in her wildest dreams had she envisioned being at a White House state dinner, but I figured now was as good a time as any. All night long, my mom beamed—especially when she met the president, who was beyond gracious and welcoming to her. That evening was the last time I recognized my mother as the woman I grew up with. The immigrant who had worked hard her entire life. The woman who took over every room she was in, who was vibrant and forceful and stubborn and loving. In a matter of weeks, everything changed.

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I was 4,000 miles from home when the text woke me up. My sister, Edwine, back in New York: “Mummy is sick. Call me.” I had flown into Poland the night before. Ukraine was months into war with Russia, and Biden had made a secret trip to Ukraine to visit Volodymyr Zelenskyy.

Despite the historic nature of the trip, a crisis at home began to consume me. My mom had been complaining of abdominal pain for a while—I still kick myself for not paying more attention. When the pain ratcheted up, my brother took her to the nearest hospital, and eventually she was taken into surgery. Although my mom would refuse to acknowledge it for another eight months, the surgery confirmed a diagnosis: She had stage II colon cancer. My mother has always been a private person. When she finally acquiesced to reality, she told me: “Don’t tell anyone. Do not tell the president I have cancer.”

In this way, I take after my mom. For almost three years, I spent every day working in one of the most public jobs in the world: White House press secretary. My job was literally to represent the president of the United States of America. From behind the lectern in the briefing room, every day, I faced the press, the American people, and the world. And every day, I kept my personal life hidden. In fact, it won’t be until reading this that the people I have worked 16-hour days with, traveled across continents with, will learn that for almost two years, I have been silently working a second full-time job, which is navigating my mother’s care. It’s not just because I’m a private person that I withheld this information.

It’s also because I’m a first. I’m the first Black press secretary. The first person of color press secretary. The first openly queer press secretary. The first Haitian American immigrant press secretary. The first press secretary to be all of the above. Being a first meant that my responsibilities were beyond those in the job description, the load heavier. I bear a certain responsibility to the communities I represent…

Looking back now at the French state dinner, the signs of my mom’s decline were there. Shaky on her feet, she needed me to stabilize her. My mom spent decades of her life as a home health care aide and as the nucleus of our family, holding so many people up. Now she needed someone else to do the holding. President Biden was one of only a few people at the White House I ever told about my mom. Biden is a man who knows grief better than anyone should. He knows that grief doesn’t only occur when someone passes, but when someone changes, irrevocably, from the person you knew.

As I grieved the mom I knew, the president showed up for me. For more than 18 months, I drove up to New York every weekend I could to see my mom, often returning to DC late at night just to get a few hours of sleep before heading to the White House early the next morning (my days began with a 7:30 a.m. team call). She was in the hospital for three months. My brother visited her each morning, and my sister came on the days she could manage off from work. I did what I could from DC. My brother put me on the phone when the hospital was giving them the runaround. I demanded the names of specific doctors, told my siblings what phone numbers to track down for me so I could make calls myself. I never used my position to pull strings, but I did use my expertise, and I never stopped advocating for my mother.

Once treatment finally began, we had to change her health insurance plan four or five times so that she could get the care the doctors recommended. By the time we’d successfully get her onto a new plan, her care team would ask us why she hadn’t already started the treatment. At one point her rehab clinic tried to charge her for the wheelchair she came in with. I worked for President Obama; I am extremely proud of the Affordable Care Act. I was equally as proud to work with President Biden to lower the costs of prescription drugs and begin to tackle this country’s medical debt crisis. But our health care system is still too expensive, too hard to navigate, and too inaccessible…

Some people, on the other hand, ‘take no responsibility whatever’...

We keep getting reminders of how deeply Trump and his team are embedded in the right-wing bubble. The post-air-disaster press conference was a particularly acute example. Gift link: wapo.st/4gj9iRP

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— Philip Bump (@pbump.com) January 31, 2025 at 2:46 PM

(If only!)
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Late Night Open Thread: Soothing

by Anne Laurie|  February 1, 20253:28 am| 203 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Popular Culture

(Some of) Trump’s Wildest Executive Orders Explained

 
I owe one of you commentors a thank-you for introducing me to Josh Johnson — his videos have been very soothing, over the past couple of turbulent news weeks. (Although he’s hardly apolitical!)

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