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by Tim F|  March 11, 20106:22 pm| 27 Comments

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Live in the Massachussetts 8th? Mike Capuano wants to hear from you.

Seriously. All of you who live in or near Mike Capuano’s district need to get on the phone first thing tomorrow and tell him how you can’t wait to fund a primary challenger if he kills this thing.

(202) 225-5111

(617) 621-6208

***Update***

Forgot the link. Fixed now.

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They Hate Us For Our… Freedom?

by John Cole|  March 11, 201011:13 am| 281 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, War on Terror aka GSAVE®, Assholes, Republican Crime Syndicate - aka the Bush Admin.

Great piece by Conor Friedersdorf about the kind of legal work the McCarthyites at Keep America Safe are labeling treason:

Orin Kerr, a law professor who blogs at The Volokh Conspiracy, has published a devastating take-down of Mr. McCarthy’s argument. It is worth reading in full. I’ll excerpt just one sentence: “McCarthy strangely overlooks the basic fact that much of the litigation for the Guantanamo detainees concerns whether they are in fact the enemy.” Even as an abstract argument, Professor Kerr’s point is persuasive, as are all parts of his rebuttal. But the wrongheadedness of the Cheney/Kristol/Thiessen/McCarthy view can be fully appreciated only by looking at how it played out in a particular case.

Thus Mr. al-Rabiah. It isn’t just that he was an innocent man thrown into Gitmo, or that he was held even after a CIA analyst concluded that he was innocent, or that National Security Council Staffers were aware of his innocence and actively trying to bring about a review of his detention — Mr. al-Rabiah’s case is apt because after the CIA’s 2002 determination of his innocence, he spent another seven years wrongly imprisoned, regaining his freedom and seeing his children only after retaining the help of American attorneys.

Ms. Cheney, Mr. Kristol, Mr. Thiessen and Mr. McCarthy assert that American lawyers who represent Guantanamo Bay detainees are helping the enemy in a time of war. Here is a case, however, where the Guantanamo Bay detainee was innocent, languished for years in custody without a lawyer despite official knowledge of his innocence, and ultimately achieved his freedom with legal help. Ms. Cheney, Mr. Kristol, Mr. Thiessen and Mr. McCarthy have no answer for people like Mr. al Rabiah and his attorneys — their poorly reasoned McCarthyite rhetoric is bankrupt because they are unable or unwilling to acknowledge the distinction between being accused of being an enemy of America in war time, and actually being an enemy of America.

It is because of people like Ms. Cheney, Mr. Kristol, Mr. Thiessen and Mr. McCarthy — and very particularly because of David Addington and Dick Cheney — that innocent Mr. al-Rabiah lost eight years of freedom when he should have been released much sooner. It would be one thing if these folks were regretful about the imprisonment of innocents, apologetically explaining them away as an inevitable consequence of the fog of war. But they never express regret, even about particular past cases that we’re better able to judge now that the fog has cleared. Nor is the absence of regret a sign that they are ambivalent about releasing wrongly imprisoned innocents. In maligning Gitmo lawyers, they actively attack all the attorneys who successfully proved that detainees were wrongly held!

The simple answer is that Cheney, Kristol, Thiessen, McCarthy, and the Malkinite fringe are equal parts afraid and evil.

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  March 11, 20109:45 am| 103 Comments

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Blizzard of posts this morning, so here is an open thread for random babble.

I can just feel that spring is here. Woke up to the sun beaming through my window at 6 or so, had a good cup of coffee and a good walk (trying to walk some of the fat I’ve stored the last 5 months), did some stretching band exercises on my shoulder (which is feeling better every day), and I’m just feeling energetic and there is a spring in my step. Thank goodness. Seemed like a really long, brutal, and lethargic winter for me this year. I’m glad it looks like it is over.

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40 Senate Votes For The Public Option

by Tim F|  March 11, 20109:39 am| 23 Comments

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HuffPo notes that Florida’s Nelson has signed on. What does your Senator think? Phone and ask.

If your Senators already support the public option, phone them anyway. Unlike liberals, who rarely phone their Reps and Senators, angry stupid teabaggers phone all day. They will really appreciate a friendly voice.

Switchboard: (202) 224-3121

Guide for first-timers here.

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Early Morning Open Thread

by Anne Laurie|  March 11, 20105:40 am| 37 Comments

This post is in: Excellent Links, Open Threads

I miss the Olympics. Not the “sports” part, because I don’t know from sports, but all the political news recently has been of the Giant Sucking Hell-Vortex variety, so I miss the novelty-pictures aspect of the Olympics. Stuff like this, as “borrowed” from Go Fug Yourself:

I might need him to tone it down a notch or three. Do I wish I had his hair? Yes. Did I need to see down to his sternum? Not really. Am I concerned he thinks he’s a cross between Uncle Sam, and Steven Tyler? Extremely. Although I guess those guys get more than their fair share of booty — I mean, come on, Uncle Sam’s whole shtick is “I Want YOU” — so I guess Shaun has chosen his nookie idols wisely. Still, at the very least, I think wrapping one’s junk in these pants could count as desecrating the flag.

(Go Fug Yourself is always a nice little pick-me-up when one needs confirmation that even people with unlimited money and access to the finest professional stylists can’t always avoid the Hot Mess arena.)

And this clip is not from the Olympics per se, but… their loss:


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Finally, a question for those who do know from sports: Nomar Garciaparra, sweet sentimentalist or stupid posturing narcissist? The reaction in the Boston area seems to be evenly split, so far.

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  March 10, 20108:24 pm| 201 Comments

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The only real surprising thing about Massa so far is that given his Navy experience, we have yet to hear any wetsuit anecdotes. Although I will admit that snorkeling is a new one.

Even though I want to feel sorry for this guy (but he won’t let me, because he won’t shut up and go away), I think I am now going to name all open threads “Massa Massages.”

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Open Thread

by John Cole|  March 10, 20109:58 am| 116 Comments

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Another beautiful day today- I’m off to rehab the shoulder, then will be out of the loop until later this afternoon. Behave yourselves.

BTW- got a message from commenter Genine that she is out of the hospital, and several of you announced new jobs yesterday, so maybe things are starting to look up around here.

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