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Link Round-up

by John Cole|  August 3, 20054:58 pm| 16 Comments

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Some quick links of things I think you might be interested in, but I am not interested enough to discuss:

1.) Leon explores more of the Air America imbroglio.

2.) Some of you were wondering whetehr thisadministration is more likely to refuse to release documents, and Pejman has an answer.

3.) Some folks at the DKOS are calling for a Roberts filibuster.

4.) Mark Kleiman thinks everybody missed the smoking gun in the latest Plame story.

5.) Gerry Daly has some interesting polling data.

6.) Matt stinson talks about the anti-Japanese backlash pervasive in China.

7.) And for Andrei, both Cynical Nation and Jeff Goldstein have the latest on the putrid, lying George Galloway.

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  1. 1.

    Mike

    August 3, 2005 at 5:37 pm

    Galloway is a traitor.
    Period.
    Anyone that admires Galloway in ANY form is a blithering idiot.
    End of debate

  2. 2.

    Mike

    August 3, 2005 at 5:57 pm

    Okay, maybe too strong. I re-looked at the videos.
    I hate throwing that word around. It gets used far too often by the Right against the Left these days unfortunately.
    Perhaps just “awful human being” is more appropriate. ;)

  3. 3.

    Gary Farber

    August 3, 2005 at 6:15 pm

    Sob. I’d have thought you might have been interested in the Whedon interview, or the cloned dog, or any number of other things.

  4. 4.

    Stormy70

    August 3, 2005 at 7:38 pm

    George Galloway – SOS

  5. 5.

    ppGaz

    August 3, 2005 at 8:35 pm

    The McCain numbers might explain why he swallowed his pride, and his dignity as a human being, and supported Bush in 2004. He may have seen the situation as a choice between running in 2008 against an incumbent Dem, or giving himself a clean field (no incumbent). Why else would he have supported a man who treated him like crap, and who, IMO, he detests?

    If this is so, and it works, smart move. If he would stand up to the lunatic wing of his party, he might even get my vote. Maybe. Possibly. Somebody shoot me.

  6. 6.

    Bob

    August 3, 2005 at 8:48 pm

    I looked at the video and I couldn’t hear him for the Arabic voiceover. As for the transcript, it’s by the same folks. I’d feel better about casting aspersions at the man if I heard him say what he’s saying.

    (I do know that Stormy here says she wants to wall off the Palestinians from the rest of the world. Any other ethnic groups that need to be walled off, Stormy? Jews, blacks, Hispanics? I bet you’ve got a list.)

    As far as whether or not Galloway is against Israel’s policies, against Israel’s existence, or generally anti-Semitic, I’d have to see something more than a comment on Sharon’s behavior.

    Since Galloway isn’t an American, he can’t be a traitor to America. If he’s a traitor to the cause of the Iraq War, well, there are lots of folks opposed to the war, and lots who speak out against it. After the 14 Marines killed today, I expect more people to come to their senses about this war.

    The war was a lie. It always was. The Bush administration always wanted to invade Iraq. All the WMD stuff was invented. That’s why those of you clinging to your phony-assed President have to keep attacking the critics of the war. As Elvis Costello once put it, you guys are the “ashtrays for the fag-ends of the aristocracy.”

    Thank you, sir, may I have another? You fools deserve another. He’s fermenting in the governor’s mansion in Florida right now. Drink the koolaid.

  7. 7.

    Bob

    August 3, 2005 at 9:45 pm

    Went back and watched the video clip and sussed out Galloway underneath the translation. Let me see. He said George Bush worships money. He said that the Iraqi people were resisting American hegemony. What’s the problem? Where’s the lie? Or does someone actually believe we went there for WMDs or to get the bad man Saddam or to bring democracy at the business end of an M-16 or to attract and kill all terrorists there instead of here?

    Don’t worry, the people will greet us with flowers and candy, just as soon as they stop trying to blow us up.

    The two most controversial parts were: 1.) when he imitated Ariel Sharon’s accent, which would indicate to me that Arabs must know Sharon’s accent, as Galloway was speaking in front of an Arab audience. It would seem to me that people who want to wall off Palestinians from the rest of the world (like Stormy70) wouldn’t be so sensitive about that. 2.) The other part was when he described Baghdad and Jerusalem as two daughters of the Arab world being raped. Well, there is an occupying army in Baghdad, and it should be apparent to most observers that there is an opposition to its continued presence there. The use of the word “rape” when describing military invasions of countries has been in common parlance at least since the Roman times. And we’re all heard the stories of Abu Ghraib even if Bush won’t release the pictures, so I leave it to you, rape it is, figuratively or literally.

    So what is the awful thing that Galloway said? He said that Arabs have a stake in Jerusalem. Gee. He didn’t say that Arabs should have all of Jerusalem, but I guess you could read that in his statement if you wanted to. Or you could read that there has been a process of evicting Palestinians from Jerusalem since 1967 and that that’s immoral.

    If America was the size of Serbia, George Bush would be in the dock in The Hague. With lots of company.

  8. 8.

    Bob

    August 3, 2005 at 9:47 pm

    Mike, a traitor would be someone who, say, leaks state secrets to potential enemies for his own gain or the gain of his comrades.

    Someone who speaks out against a government policy, like say a war based on lies, would be a dissident.

  9. 9.

    Nathan Lanier

    August 3, 2005 at 10:01 pm

    Armando is painful to read.

  10. 10.

    M. Scott Eiland

    August 3, 2005 at 10:07 pm

    Armando is actually a rather nice–if occasionally hot-headed–guy and a loyal partisan Democrat–but he might as well be on Karl Rove’s payroll if he keeps pushing this: even if he and his fellow believers get some traction, it can only lead to either the death of the judicial filibuster, or the humiliating spectacle of a few Democratic Senators repudiating the moonbat wing of their party to save the judicial filibuster by voting for cloture and ending the circus.

  11. 11.

    Mike

    August 3, 2005 at 11:00 pm

    “Bob Says:
    Mike, a traitor would be someone who, say, leaks state secrets to potential enemies for his own gain or the gain of his comrades.

    Someone who speaks out against a government policy, like say a war based on lies, would be a dissident.”

    As I indicated I mispoke. But I do not agree that the war was formulated on lies. Bad intelligence sure, but that’s as far as I’ll go at this stage.
    Mike

  12. 12.

    Mike

    August 3, 2005 at 11:07 pm

    “M. Scott Eiland Says:
    Armando is actually a rather nice—if occasionally hot-headed—guy and a loyal partisan Democrat…”

    Just one little “Armandoism”:

    “But your stupidity overlooks the basic fact that the STATES are not “limited” even under your construct, which is a lie as well.

    So, as a typical idiot Republican you fall into the obvious trap of making a collosal mistake that exposes the utter stupidity of your position.

    Here is a clue you may wanted to have conisidered –

    the case was Griswold v. CONNECTICUT, not v. the US.

    Stupid troll.

    The SCOTUS is Extraordinary.

    by Armando on Wed Aug 3rd, 2005 at 15:20:56 PDT
    [ Parent ]”

    Yes. He seems very nice…

  13. 13.

    Bob

    August 3, 2005 at 11:58 pm

    I could have told you guys that Bush was stupid. Now, five years later, it’s “bad intelligence.”

  14. 14.

    mac Buckets

    August 4, 2005 at 8:48 am

    I could have told you guys that Bush was stupid. Now, five years later, it’s “bad intelligence.”

    Looks like we have another contestant in the game that’s sweeping the Democratic Party: “Let’s Pretend the Democrats Didn’t Think Iraq Had WMD!”

    Sorry, you lose. Or must we post all the quotes from Bill, Kerry, Teddy, Hillary, etc etc etc AGAIN!

  15. 15.

    Stormy70

    August 4, 2005 at 11:14 am

    I do know that Stormy here says she wants to wall off the Palestinians from the rest of the world. Any other ethnic groups that need to be walled off, Stormy?

    No, just the death cult Palestinians, who blow up women and children, shoot people in the street without trial, kill homosexuals, dress children in suicide bomber outfits, and send “disgraced” women to be suicide bombers because they are going to kill her anyway, so if she blows up a nightclub she’ll be forgiven and get to go to heaven. I used to feel sorry for them, now I don’t. They’ve blown it all to hell.

    Galloway is anti-semitic and a serious SOS, and the hatred for him is bipartisan.

  16. 16.

    Don

    August 4, 2005 at 5:34 pm

    Looks like we have another contestant in the game that’s sweeping the Democratic Party: “Let’s Pretend the Democrats Didn’t Think Iraq Had WMD!”

    I guess I don’t get it. The folks in power who have greater access and can task the agencies to verify claims… don’t. Then they make claims and the mistake the Dems made was… believing them? Yeah, that’s equal culpability right there.

    Whenever anyone brings up this tired old saw I notice they always seem to leave off the administration’s subtle or not-so-subtle claims that not only were there WMDs but that they were an imminent threat, thus justifying the huge amount of money spent in a time of shaky economy.

    Oh wait, the Dems believe that BS too. Guess it’s their fault equally.

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