I wonder if the clowns in the Log Cabin Republicans will notice this:
South Carolina Senator Jim DeMint will skip this year’s Conservative Political Action Conference, making him the most prominent conservative figure yet to express objections to what critics see as a pro-gay, libertarian tilt to the 38-year old event.
“With leading conservatives organizations not participating this year, Senator DeMint will not be attending. He hopes to attend a unified CPAC next year,” DeMint spokesman Wesley Denton said in an email.
Prominent social conservatives have dropped out of, and criticized, the event over its inclusion of the gay conservative group GOProud. Rep. Jim Jordan, who heads the House’s Republican Study Committee, has also joined the boycott.
I’m not exaggerating. They’re boycotting because they won’t be able to get their gay hate on.
dmsilev
Pfft. That’s not even the wackiest thing that the right wing has done *this week*. I give you Michelle-Obama-red-dress-gate.
dms
Jay B.
They will. But what makes them special is how they’ll rationalize it.
General Stuck
A few more titers and we could well have pure wingnuttery in it’s elemental state. A Radioactive substance, with a chorus of excitable protons in wet suits, dancing madly around a gay atomic nucleus.
dr. bloor
Lindsey Graham will be doing enough
meatmeet and greet for South Carolina, thenkyewveddymuch.scav
Nothing like hoping to return to a unified conference where people have been excluded.
Kryptik
Haven’t they done this the last….what….2, 3 years? And the Log Cabin Republicans still think economic ideology is more important than…you know, not standing with a party that wants to treat them as a sideshow to be shunned rather than actual people.
Linda Featheringill
I find this whole drama interesting. GOProud is probably a fine group of people, but why would gay people keep struggling to be accepted by the Republicans? Couldn’t they be Independents if they didn’t want to be Democratic?
Then there are the groups of Republicans who apparently don’t want to be the same room as a gay person. Good luck on that one. It’s probably too late.
Or perhaps a bunch of Republicans want to sit around and talk about how much better they are than gay people. This strikes me as a recreational activity, not a political one. Couldn’t they do that after hours?
Pass the popcorn.
Brachiator
@dmsilev:
Mrs. Obama was signalling her support of the Commies:
Apparently, wingnuts can easily discern the difference between Commie Red and the RealAmerican(tm) Red favored by Nancy Reagan.
morzer
@dr. bloor:
“We have many varieties of sausage in South Carolina…..”
morzer
@Brachiator:
Next up, removing all evil rediness from the Confederate flag….
Bokonon
When DeMint says that he “hopes to attend a unified CPAC next year”, he clearly means a thoroughly PURGED conference. By next year.
Once the purges are complete, all the remaining wingers can “unify” with each other. Without those gay people or their supporters being around any longer to muck things up.
Mike Kay
Ironically, CPAC was started by Terry Dolan, a gay republican who died of AIDS, Roger Stone, a wife swapping, hooker client, pervert, and Charlie Black, a lobbyist for terrorists like Jonas Savimbi.
Maude
And if she’s worn royal blue she would have been trying to be a queen.
LesGS
It’s actually GOProud that’s attending CPAC this year, not the Log Cabin folks. Y’know, the guys Andrew Breitbart is throwing a “big ol’ gay party” for. They also paid Ann Coulter to come and slap them around some last year.
gnomedad
@dmsilev:
The “Crocodile Dundee” right: “That’s not crazy … this is crazy.”
gwangung
Huh. Must have better eyes than us Chinese Americans, who think red is a lucky color.
Wait. I forgot. Republicans don’t think those of us with slanted eyes are real Americans.
AxelFoley
LOL, hilarious. Hope there’s more GOP infighting to come.
GOProud? WTF? Openly gay Republicans make even less sense to me than openly black Republicans.
JGabriel
In response to social conservatives who said they wanted to come to the event, but couldn’t go to it under the circumstances, a GOProud spokesperson responded, “Relax, don’t do it, when you wanna go to it. Relax, don’t do it, when you want to: come.”
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cleek
no he doesn’t.
Tunch
Hey, they are more broad minded than just hating gays! Give them some credit here.
Bokonon
Nancy Reagan was allowed to wear red because she was a conservative. And she was also … um … ah … not … um …
That disconnect indicates that the color of Michele Obama’s DRESS is not the issue here.
dmsilev
@Brachiator:
Real Americans wear red to pay tribute to the Red States. IslamoKenyanFascist Americans wear red to signal to their Communist overlords that the time for the invasion is at hand.
Duh.
dms
Allan
@Linda Featheringill:
No. It’s not.
PeakVT
@Linda Featheringill: GOProud is probably a fine group of people
They might be non-homophobes, but they’re still quite likely to be Galtians of the most narcissistic sort.
ETA: Allan beats me to it, and with a link.
Allan
@Brachiator: It’s funny, because most heterosexual men aren’t able to distinguish among and/or name multiple shades of red.
Litlebritdifrnt
@dmsilev:
Someone in the comments over there pointed out that they call themselves “red states” and that the Snowbilly Snooki’s favorite color is red yoo betcha!
AxelFoley
@JGabriel:
You win this thread, good sir.
trollhattan
OT. Ooh, ooh, The Atlantic grrlfight!
andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2011/01/loughner-and-the-right.html
Has Sully ever called out McMegan before? I only see him link to her. He does a reacharound later by linking to McSuderman.
AxelFoley
@Tunch:
Holy moley, I didn’t know your cat could operate a pc, John!
BGinCHI
@scav: “He hopes to attend a unified CPAC next year,” said the asshole who broke up the unity by leaving in hopes that others would leave or at least not show up next year.
Class act, that DeMint.
John Cole
@trollhattan: I actually saw that earlier and tried to read McMegan, but I got to “Ask any cognitive scientist” and I had to stop. Everything she writes is so god damned snotty, which in and of itself is annoying, but coming from someone who literally doesn’t even know the basic details about her own company it is too much to take.
The Dangerman
Nancy wore red and consulted Astrologers. Can you imagine what would happen if Miss Cleo showed up at the White House with her Tarot Cards?
Michelle missed an opportunity; she should have shown up in a dress made from duct tape, color white.
kdaug
@trollhattan: I saw that earlier. Let the bitchslapping commence.
Mark S.
@trollhattan:
McMegan:
I’m pretty sure she couldn’t. What a bitch.
MAJeff
I’m glad to see a few other people beat me to the punch on this. GOProud are anti-gay, anti-woman homosexuals.
gwangung
@John Cole: Having been a cognitive scientist, I’m guessing that McMegan asked, and wrote what she damn well pleased anyway.
Redshirt
It’s like they’re Reverse Hippies.
They should do a sit-in until their demands for a gay free CPAC are met.
HEY HEY, HO HO, All THESE GAYS HAVE GOT TO GO
HEY HEY, HO HO….
Were well beyond the looking glass here, people.
Linda Featheringill
@AxelFoley:
How would one manage to be a closeted black Republican?
morzer
@Linda Featheringill:
Very very nervously?
General Stuck
I will tell you all. The compulsive McMegan bashing will end you up in the same place as those pirates over that Dodo thingy.
kdaug
@Linda Featheringill: White paint. Next question.
BGinCHI
@Linda Featheringill: Bill Clinton?
Ash Can
Maybe he’s just pissed off because Andy Breitbart didn’t invite him to his Big Fat Gay Party.
Linda Featheringill
Okay, so the GOProuders aren’t nice people. My mistake.
shortstop
@Linda Featheringill: Check the average income of Log Cabin Republicans and GOProud members. They love their pocketbooks more than they love their civil rights, and truth be told, when you’re wealthy enough, you escape the worst of the bigotry that befalls the less well-heeled. That’s true of any discriminated-against demographic.
AxelFoley
@Linda Featheringill:
You’d have to ask Clarence Thomas that question.
shortstop
Oh, now, why did I have to be the only serious one in this thread? Now I feel like a loser.
Bnut
It’s too bad. I was really looking forward to trying to play footsie with Demint’s loafers in the CPAC bathroom.
BGinCHI
@shortstop: We need all the grownups we can get around here.
shortstop
@BGinCHI: Well, I’ve had it with this bullshit adult gig. I’m headed to the Jewel at Berwyn and Broadway (not the closest Jewel to us, but the closest one to our friends’ house — long story). I shall wave in your (fake French accent) general direction.
kdaug
@shortstop: Buck up there, cowboy (although I think it’s cowgirl, no?).
Night is still young. Plenty of time to get back on your snark horse. And the serious horse will be along shortly.
shortstop
@kdaug: Say, I like the cut of your jib.
Roger Moore
@Linda Featheringill:
By being too embarrassed to tell anyone how you’re registered. If you were black, would you want to admit you were a Republican? I didn’t think so.
Turgidson
Yeah, McMegan’s “ask any cognitive scientist” thing is about as convincing as the pro-meat propaganda commercial in the Simpsons (starring Troy McClure!), that goes:
Troy: “Your crazy friend never heard of the food chain! Just ask this scientician!”
[cut to scientist] “Uh…” [cut away to Troy]
Troy: “He’ll tell you that in nature, one creature invariably eats another to survive!”
youtube.com/watch?v=bps-xbo8wnA
the sequence at 1:36 is my favorite.
Omnes Omnibus
@Allan: It is called color deficiency. It is also the reason I choose very basic, traditional color combinations and ask my wife if this color goes well with that one when dressing.
Mike in NC
Jim Bob DeMint recently called for barring any suspected homosexuals from being allowed to teach in public schools, lest they indoctrinate impressionable youngsters into their Satanic ways. What a piece of work.
The question is, will he be reelected in a landslide in 2016 or run for president instead?
srv
Man, y’all need to listen to Xtian radio more often. Farrah/WND have been on CPAC Jihad since before the DADT vote. I heard him ranting that teh gey had completely taken over the Republican Party a couple of months ago.
They’ve all but ostracized Ann Coulter for doing GOProud events.
Socialcons vs Teahadis vs rest of Party. Lots of options here.
kdaug
@shortstop: You should see my spinnaker.
Omnes Omnibus
@kdaug: One would rather not.
JPL
It’s difficult to keep up with the whackos, they are just anti so much. What are they for?
Omnes Omnibus
@JPL:As I understand it and I might be wrong, they are for being against things. Weren’t there Falangist groups in Spain whose motto was “Viva la muerte?” I see something similar here.
Ija
@trollhattan:
It’s pretty telling what McMegan uses as examples for other writings that Loughner might have read: Andrew’s writing, or gay rights literature. I mean, if you are talking about Andrew Sullivan, what else could you think about but GAY! GAY! GAY! right? By the way, has McMegan mentioned recently that Andrew Sullivan is gay? Because he is, and McMegan would like you to know that.
Mnemosyne
@Bokonon:
You do realize how dirty that sounds when combined with the rest of the thread, right?
The Other Chuck
I guess GOProud’s endgame is that they’ll be the only ones left when the rest of the party tears itself apart.
Mnemosyne
@AxelFoley:
I see Tunch as more of a Mac user. Possibly even an iPad.
Davis X. Machina
Well, it does tell us exactly how valuable a promise of a slight decrease in the top marginal rate of income tax really is — it’s worth selling your soul for, apparently.
Dee Loralei
@General Stuck: That comment was so full of win, good job, Stuck!
Evolved Deep Southerner
The resonance conservatism has with young gays is as puzzling to me as it is anyone here.
I realize anecdotes don’t equal data, but I am the staff adviser to the student media groups (student newspaper, radio station, TV station, etc.) at a very conservative public university in Jim DeMint’s home state.
One of those publications, as it happens, is a “conservative political journal.” It gets no university funding like the other groups; they are funded instead by a rather mysterious group called the Collegiate Network. One of the recent emeritus editors did an internship at Reason Magazine.
Anyway, this avowedly hyper-conservative “journal” has been pretty well commandeered over the past three or so years by gays. Last year’s editor was also the president of the university’s Gay-Straight Alliance. The key staff members and contributors have been openly and overwhelmingly gay for a while now.
The publication never prints a damn word about gay issues one way or the other; if they were to come out (pun intended) against the party line, I suspect this Collegiate Network would yank their funding.
With all the cognitive dissonance it invokes, the staff has become predominantly gay over the past three years or so, and that trend will likely continue moving forward. And these guys are true believers who seem to choose to studiously ignore the anti-gay vibe in the Confederate Party.
Like I said, I’ve never understood it. But I sure do like working with them a hell of a lot more now than when the editorial torch was passed from one angry racist white kid to the next.
General Stuck
@Dee Loralei:
Blush
thanks
Nutella
DeMint wants to be sure his party has a very very very small tent.
Belafon (formerly anonevent)
@trollhattan: I think McMegan hit a sore spot. And I’m glad he jumped on her.
MikeMc
I thought conservatives were all about the Bill of Rights? Apparently, not the “Right to Remain Fabulous”! That’s in the document! Google it, fuckers!
Tattoosydney
@Evolved Deep Southerner:
It’s because being gay doesn’t stop you from being venal, unpleasant, young and/or stupid.
As I have said before, there will always be gay men and women (and other men and women) who will support the forces of hate because otherwise they might have to pay more taxes so sick people can get medical treatment and their trash can be collected, or because they’ve already got theirs and don’t give a shit what it’s like to be an Afghanistani boat person or a single unemployed mother, or because the last current affairs show they watched featured 15 minutes about Britney Spears’ latest tummy tuck and they voted for Rand Paul because Obama is so two years ago, or they didn’t get everything they wanted right now and they want to send a message by voting for people who want to fuck every gay person over repeatedly and would strip away every single right we have if they had their way, or just because they are nasty and fucked up inside.
Dickheads.
Midnight Marauder
@srv:
Nope.
Wile E. Quixote
@Nutella:
Will it be big enough for Larry Craig’s wide stance?
ppcli
@Allan: Very untrue. There’s Alabama Crimson Tide red, Detroit Red Wings red, Montréal Canadiens red, Arizona Cardinals Red, Manchester United Red,…
Gardenvarietygator
I don’t know a thing about GOProud BUT if I was treated the way gays are by the republican crazy fools who have changed the party to ONLY “christian” I think I might get really stubborn about going away. Sort of like the gay pride parades that flaunt uncomfortable to look at sex themes……..Its clear they aren’t actually accomplishing any increase in understanding. I think its turned into sheer pigheadedness “no we WON’T go away”. I think they should VOTE democratic, but if their skin is thick enough, I can understand not giving in to the fool bullies.
Its a shame the real fiscal conservatives have allowed themselves to be driven away. You know, the ones that could tell the difference between tax cuts good when the marginal rates are 70% and now, notice the deficit and had a clue about foreign policy, not to mention science. Now I never liked those guys, they overlooked too much racial meanness and hated the enviorment but geeze, they weren’t INSANE.
I don’t have thick skin and I don’t understand how they stick around though, or even how they became Republican in the first place.
Evolved Deep Southerner
@Tattoosydney: I don’t know, Syd. These kids may be, and probably are, from privileged backgrounds – so they may be getting it from their ‘rents – but they’re not old enough to have personally felt the bite of the Taxman. And, honestly, they really don’t seem like those kinds of kids. That publication has HAD those kinds of kids, the precociously dickish Young Fascists, at the helm, so I know what they look like, and these kids aren’t those kids.
I’m still trying to figure it out, as I said.
Tax Analyst
@Kryptik:
I think the Party considers them more of a “Soddy House” than a Log Cabin. It certainly reflects the amount of respect they get from it.
Mark
@Tattoosydney: You did forget a couple of explanations – gay people vote Republican because they believe in, for example, gay supremacy – gay people are smarter or more accomplished than heterosexuals; or gay libertarianism, which is basically the notion that coming from a wealthy white family had no impact on their lives and that they did it all themselves. Either way, everybody else is looking for a handout, and so they vote Republican.
Evolved Deep Southerner
@Mark: Mark, you may have hit a little closer to the mark with my lambs there. But, bless their hearts, if you could see and meet them, just … bless their hearts. That’s all I can say. Just as socially awkward as they can be, both the gay and straight contributors to this publication alike, even on the most conservative campus in the most conservative state. They’re not bad kids, they’re really not. But if pity makes you a bad person, well, I’m a bad person, because they’re clearly creating an ultra-specialized “in group” for themselves where no other group like that existed previously. That this group ended up centered around a conservative publication funded by some deep-shade group that funds student-run “conservative journals” … go figure.
Silver
Wait, the GOP doesn’t like gays?
Someone ask Andrew Sullivan how MUCH OF A FUCKING IGNORANT RETARDED TROGLODYTE IDIOT you have to be to figure that out…
He’s in a great spot to give you an answer, if you can catch him between jerking off to Levi Johnston and Paul Ryan.
Tattoosydney
@Evolved Deep Southerner:
In that case, my guess is “young” and “idealistic” (still living their parents’ beliefs) and perhaps silly enough to think that being gay isn’t relevant to their political beliefs.
Then again, remembering university, it could just be because they think it will get them laid, the poor dears.
Tattoosydney
@Mark:
Absolutely, there are any number of reasons along the same lines – I once knew a jewish, upper class, South African, christian gay man who voted for our conservative party because he thought “they will be better for real estate prices” – most of which boil down to either dickheads being dickheads, or too young and/or stupid to know better.
Tattoosydney
@Evolved Deep Southerner:
Yep – It’s about getting laid.
Caz
People normally boycott organizations which have values that are contrary to their own. Big deal. Are you that hard up for current events that you put this on your site, lol?
Barb (formerly Gex)
@Gardenvarietygator: They didn’t “overlook” anything. They allied themselves with it to win elections. All of that, moderation on taxes, foreign policy, religion… ALL that was traded for votes and wins.
They made a deal with the Devil and they lost themselves.
Barb (formerly Gex)
@Barb (formerly Gex): For instance, the “reasonable” ones probably do agree that after a point, lowering taxes isn’t helpful. But they can’t be truthful about it anymore, because they sold the “base” an inviolate principle – tax cuts for the wealthy are good for all of us. Creates jobs – which people believe even though there are no fucking jobs.
Look at how they feel about George H.W. Bush’s tax cuts.
Hob
@Bokonon: Michelle Obama could wear exactly the same dress, shoes, hair, and face as Nancy Reagan – hell, she could be Nancy Reagan, but we’d all know she was doing it for different reasons. Communist reasons.
It’s pretty much like the Borges story where the guy is writing his own version of Don Quixote, and he’s keeping every word exactly the same, but he knows the subtext of it will be entirely different this time because it’s him writing it.
Evolved Deep Southerner
@Tattoosydney: LOL. If you’re correct, I just want to turn my brain off now. And not just because I’m straight. Bless their hearts doubly and trebly, and the best of luck to each and every one of them.
Mike
I always thought the gay Republican thing was basically S/M for real.
Why settle for a riding crop when you can have the whole system beat on you?
Yikes
GOProud is the battered wife of politics. Getting race-baiting, ACORN-maligning Breitbart onto their board after having Hateful Head Helen, oops I mean vicious anger-stick Ann Coulter headline their fall par-tay, I’m starting to wonder if there actually are any gay people in GOProud, or if it’s a trojan horse org meant to drive out the last few remaining homos with a shred of decency left in them?
Yutsano
@Caz: To quote one of the greatest characters in anime evah: