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Open thread

by DougJ|  August 27, 20119:55 pm| 72 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Blogospheric Navel-Gazing, Going Galt

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This one goes out to ABL, John, and all the front-pagers who have gone Galt.

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72Comments

  1. 1.

    Raven (formerly stuckinred)

    August 27, 2011 at 9:56 pm

    baby come back. . .

  2. 2.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 27, 2011 at 10:00 pm

    Violent Femmes Gone Daddy Gone

  3. 3.

    Paddy

    August 27, 2011 at 10:01 pm

    Spending all my nights
    All my money going out on the town
    Doing anything just to get you off of my mind
    But when the morning comes
    I’m right back where I started again
    Trying to forget you is just a waste of time

    Baby come back, any kind of fool could see
    There was something in everything about you
    Baby come back, you can blame it all on me
    I was wrong, and I just can’t live without you

    Jesus this reminds me of a guy and a van…. When a guy with a van was sexy, not a serial killer mind you.

    PS- I hate how the html works in these comments.

  4. 4.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 27, 2011 at 10:02 pm

    Hall & Oates She’s Gone

    I need a drink and a quick decision

  5. 5.

    jeffreyw

    August 27, 2011 at 10:03 pm

    I told Toby that Tunch has gone Galt. He didn’t take it well.

  6. 6.

    Mike E

    August 27, 2011 at 10:04 pm

    Irene has a fat ass. Just sayin’

  7. 7.

    SensesFail

    August 27, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    So here I am, browsing the Philosophy books on the Barnes and Noble website, and I come across this racist piece of shit.

    When will these assholes grow some balls and just come out and say, “OBAMA IS A NIGGER”?

  8. 8.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 27, 2011 at 10:05 pm

    The Animals We Gotta Get Out of This Place

  9. 9.

    jeffreyw

    August 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    Mmm…bacon cheddar onion jalapeno cornfuckingbread.

  10. 10.

    Roger Moore

    August 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    I don’t think John has gone Galt. Every time he says he’s going Galt, he winds up posting eleventy posts a day. Obviously his relative lack of posts on anything substantial is a sign that he’s deeply involved in the blog for a change.

  11. 11.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 27, 2011 at 10:07 pm

    The Who Going Mobile

  12. 12.

    kindness

    August 27, 2011 at 10:08 pm

    And I sure hope those Front Pagers are having a great time running loose.

    How’s the storm treating where you are?

  13. 13.

    Paddy

    August 27, 2011 at 10:09 pm

    @SensesFail: Worst part is that their basis for all this is laughable. Barack Obasma a gangster? They berate him over his goofy pants, wearing a helmet while biking, and playing too MUCH golf. They could try and make a case on the basketball and Chicago links, but even those are more suburban white boy than “gansta”. Idjits.

  14. 14.

    Roger Moore

    August 27, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    @SensesFail:

    When will these assholes grow some balls and just come out and say, “OBAMA IS A NIGGER”?

    How can you say such a thing? Obviously, you’re the real racist for claiming that their continual dogwhistle attacks on Obama are racist. After all, only a racist like you would be able to hear a racist dogwhistle.

  15. 15.

    jeffreyw

    August 27, 2011 at 10:10 pm

    You’ll be wanting something to go with that cornbread?

  16. 16.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 27, 2011 at 10:12 pm

    @Paddy:

    Don’t forget that he’s sort of a Trekkie, too.

  17. 17.

    Roger Moore

    August 27, 2011 at 10:13 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Did you scroll down the page and look at the “People… also bought…” titles?

    I thought the ratings were very interesting, too. The book got a 2 1/2 star rating, but somehow all of the “most helpful” reviews were very short ones giving it 4 or 5 stars. I guess since they can’t game the rating, the wingnuts are left to game the metaratings.

  18. 18.

    Roger Moore

    August 27, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    @kindness:

    How’s the storm treating where you are?

    It’s ignoring me in my Left Coast hideout. Unfortunately, The Heat seems to have finally remembered us and decided that a late arrival is better than none at all.

  19. 19.

    Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again)

    August 27, 2011 at 10:17 pm

    The Jim Carroll Band People Who Died

  20. 20.

    Paddy

    August 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    @Roger Moore: Speaking of wanting to set his hair on fire and run around yelling “N, N, N!!!!!!!!”, did you see Pat Buchanan’s latest?

    Pat Buchanan: “Our president might reflect on… the overrepresentation of white males — in the caskets coming home…”

    You know, I understand part of why they keep him around on MSNBC. When they talk straight politics, he is a font of knowledge of tactics etc, but the minute you get in the neighborhood of any kind of ethnicity, all bets are off. You would think someone with such a strong Irish Catholic connection would understand what prejudice does to a people. Hell, my mom was off the boat Irish and even in the 60’s she got pegged with the labels.

  21. 21.

    jeffreyw

    August 27, 2011 at 10:18 pm

    iiiiiiiooooooopppppplll;;;;;;;;;pppppppppppppp;;;;;;;;;;;;;

  22. 22.

    Gravenstone

    August 27, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @Paddy: Ah, one of my favorite guilty pleasures from the 70’s.

  23. 23.

    Mike E

    August 27, 2011 at 10:19 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Was it you told her, she looks fat in those jeans?

    Nah, nuthin’ but sweet talk, except I knew she was gonna break my heart anyways… One of the trees loosened here in Mayberry by Fran 15 years ago just fell over, blocked my street and cut off power until late tomorrow (or long enough to spoil my freezer).
    Bitch!

  24. 24.

    Violet

    August 27, 2011 at 10:22 pm

    @Mike E:
    Well that sucks. I hope they get your power restored quickly.

    Where is John these days? Is this even his blog?

  25. 25.

    Karen

    August 27, 2011 at 10:29 pm

    @SensesFail:

    They always do eventually so fear not. But until then, implying and dog whistling is more affective since implying makes people think harder. Saying the actual N word can be and is tuned out by people because it’s an ugly word saying something blunt and no thinking is involved with it.

    It’s kind of how a date of mine went. Blind date with a guy and everything was fine until he mentioned a bad area of town with black people unit. He didn’t use the N word but actually said that some of his best friends were black, really cliched but a lot of racists use that excuse to lie to themselves.

  26. 26.

    Svensker

    August 27, 2011 at 10:30 pm

    @Mike E:

    Sympathies!

    I was listening to Prince tonight, too, enjoying his While My Guitar Gently Weeps solo.

    Was especially enjoying it because at the same time I was watching Tom Brady get tumped frequently and viciously by the DEEEETROIT Lions. Heh. And double heh. Patsies look ruff. Snrk snrk snrk.

  27. 27.

    Corner Stone

    August 27, 2011 at 10:31 pm

    This one goes out to ABL, John, and all the front-pagers who have gone Galt.

    Why? You prefer this thread gets closed comments?

  28. 28.

    DCLaw1

    August 27, 2011 at 10:32 pm

    This being an open thread, I thought you all might want to see this very serious report from the D.C. area about the back-to-back destruction from the earthquake and now the hurricane.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zO6gpaHvcLI&feature=share

  29. 29.

    Brother Shotgun of Sweet Reason

    August 27, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    @kindness: How’s the storm? We’re so far to the west of the track that I have the windows open and I just told my wife “Usually in a hurricane, you don’t think to yourself “That’s a nice breeze.”

    We’re forecast for about 3″ of rain, which is a 2-year bankfull (stream) event here, not a real big deal. Might get gusts up to 35 mph. Not much worse than a winter nor’easter for wind and precip.

    At least I won’t have to shovel out the driveway tomorrow!

    ETA: South Pennsylvania, west of the Susquehanna.

  30. 30.

    darkmatter

    August 27, 2011 at 10:34 pm

    The Band: I Shall Be Released

  31. 31.

    Gravenstone

    August 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    @jeffreyw: Cat style typing alert?

  32. 32.

    Roger Moore

    August 27, 2011 at 10:35 pm

    @Paddy:

    did you see Pat Buchanan’s latest?

    I try to ignore Pat Buchanan. Wow. I guess he’s trying for the Republican limbo championship, though the rest of the party has upped (lowered?) its game enough that I doubt that kind of comment will be enough to make the finals.

  33. 33.

    scav

    August 27, 2011 at 10:36 pm

    Moffat! You cheeky bugger.

  34. 34.

    Mike E

    August 27, 2011 at 10:39 pm

    Well, if it ain’t hurricanes, icestorms, an occasional twister, the odd occurrence of martial law, then it just ain’t Dixie now, is it?
    Spits

  35. 35.

    Yutsano

    August 27, 2011 at 10:40 pm

    I done totally fergot the Seachickens are playing. Mariners have a home game too. No wonder I-5 was nuts heading into downtown. I studiously avoided.

  36. 36.

    Svensker

    August 27, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    @Svensker:

    And Detroit scores again. Been a long time since I enjoyed a game so much.

  37. 37.

    Mike E

    August 27, 2011 at 10:41 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Wouldn’t surprise me to find significant arboreal damage

    Pines snap at the top; oaks just fall the fuck right over if they’re not rotted from the inside

  38. 38.

    jeffreyw

    August 27, 2011 at 10:42 pm

    @Gravenstone: Huh?…..Wha…dammit, little rascal!

  39. 39.

    Johannes

    August 27, 2011 at 10:46 pm

    @scav: Cheek, indeed.

  40. 40.

    Roger Moore

    August 27, 2011 at 10:48 pm

    @Gravenstone:

    Cat style typing alert?

    I think you mean Cat-like Typing Detected. I’m very glad that Jake seems to have decided that keyboards are not for walking.

  41. 41.

    Yutsano

    August 27, 2011 at 10:49 pm

    @Svensker: It’s only pre-season, so it don’t count for boo. Still beating up the Pats always feels good huh?

  42. 42.

    Svensker

    August 27, 2011 at 11:03 pm

    @efgoldman:

    but it was a freaking exhibition that means nothing.

    Anytime Tom Brady is getting tumped and looking miserable isn’t nothing. It’s a whole lot of something.

    Hey, I’m a cheap date.

  43. 43.

    clayton

    August 27, 2011 at 11:07 pm

    @Temporarily Max McGee (soon enough to be Andy K again): vf ICK.

  44. 44.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    August 27, 2011 at 11:09 pm

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    This one goes out to the abominABLe snowlady – Compromise of core values to capitulate to conservative cavemen is only one reason to re-elect President Obama – but it fits on a balloonbagger bumpersticker.
    .
    .

  45. 45.

    Suffern ACE

    August 27, 2011 at 11:12 pm

    @kindness: I hope it gets here soon. Honestly, it’s times like these that I realize that I may have chosen the wrong partner. We are not TV compatible over long stretches of time. I’m actually hoping the power goes out here soon. I think we’re radio compatible.

  46. 46.

    Yutsano

    August 27, 2011 at 11:13 pm

    @Uncle Clarence Thomas: You per thang. What will you do if/when he’s re-elected?

  47. 47.

    darkmatter

    August 27, 2011 at 11:25 pm

    @Svensker: Getting beat down by the Lions is truly what Brady and the Pats deserve.

  48. 48.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 27, 2011 at 11:26 pm

    @efgoldman: Heh. Are you a New Englander? If so, what’s the news up there? I saw a few hours ago that beachfront buildings in Rhode Island were being rocked by the wind with the eye still more than 300 miles away.

    on ABL: Anne Laurie said earlier she’s got a paying gig at another blog. I think that’s stage one of going Galt, getting paid for what you used to do for free.

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    August 27, 2011 at 11:27 pm

    @jeffreyw: Me want recipe.

    Edit: corn bread should be cut in squares. :-)

  50. 50.

    Yutsano

    August 27, 2011 at 11:34 pm

    @WaterGirl: That can be difficult if said cornbread is made in a cast iron skillet. Having said that, it’s not impossible either.

  51. 51.

    WaterGirl

    August 27, 2011 at 11:38 pm

    @Yutsano: Right. Foolish of me to criticize while asking for a recipe. I should have had the recipe in hand first.

  52. 52.

    SensesFail

    August 27, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    @Uncle Clarence Thomas:

    This one goes out to the abominABLe snowlady – Compromise of core values to capitulate to conservative cavemen is only one reason to re-elect President Obama – but it fits on a balloonbagger bumpersticker.

    Yeah, why doesn’t President Obama just use his Ultimate Presidential Powers to bypass the Congress and pass Single Payer Healthcare, legalize Gay Marriage and create Clean Energy and Education initiatives?

    BECAUSE HE’S WORSE THAN BUSH AND A SECRET CONSERVATIVE AND HE HATES TEH LIBERALS!!!!

  53. 53.

    Paddy

    August 27, 2011 at 11:44 pm

    @efgoldman: I cannot find the vid (It’s too late and I’m +3), but I vividly remember Rachel lamenting that speech as making her feel like a pariah when she was young, and feeling as if he was targeting her personally. I’m sure alot of people felt that way, it was a nasty, cold hearted rant.
    No clue how she can work with him, I’m too short tempered, I’d have cold cocked him eons ago.

  54. 54.

    handy

    August 27, 2011 at 11:52 pm

    @SensesFail:

    uggh

    @Corner Stone:

    C’mon! Those were good times!

  55. 55.

    Fucen Pneumatic Fuck Wrench Tarmal

    August 27, 2011 at 11:53 pm

    belly

    gepetto
    “and if you bore him, your going to lose your soul to him”

  56. 56.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 27, 2011 at 11:58 pm

    @Paddy: Molly Ivins: I thought it sounded better in the original German.

    I don’t think Buchanan’s been on Rachel’s show since a few months after the debut (edited). I’ve always assumed that the MSNBC brass forced that set up for “balance”. I assume it was Rachel or someone closer to her than the top floor who came up with the “Uncle Pat” segment title, as in “your crazy, embarrassing, racist uncle”, and I suspect he didn’t like being there any more than she liked having him.

  57. 57.

    jeffreyw

    August 28, 2011 at 12:24 am

    @WaterGirl: http://whats4dinnersolutions.wordpress.com/2011/08/27/mmm-bacon-cheddar-jalapeno-cornbread/

  58. 58.

    Gozer

    August 28, 2011 at 12:53 am

    Gettin’ windy and lotsa rain at casa de Gozer. I gotta stay up in case the power goes out and Dr. Mrs. and I have to bail water out of the basement.

    Beer supplies are still good though.

  59. 59.

    Joseph Nobles

    August 28, 2011 at 1:21 am

    @jeffreyw: That kitteh is on the wrong side of the keyboard for that string of letters, so I’m not buying it. ;-)

    And as wonderful as that cornbread looks, I really am a purist when it comes to cornbread. Mama made it in a cast-iron skillet with bacon drippings, straight up, no fillings. My stepdaddy married her because of that cornbread and I couldn’t blame him. Actually, she just made more, so it was all good.

    But the beans? OM NOM NOM NOM.

    ETA: On cutting cornbread into squares from a cast-iron skillet — slice it down the middle, cut perpendicular parallel lines from then on. Not precisely square, but it doesn’t destroy the middle of the bread. And if you’ve got enough time to admire the shape of your bread, you need a better recipe.

  60. 60.

    Neil T.

    August 28, 2011 at 1:25 am

    It’s me from this thread:

    https://balloon-juice.com/2011/08/27/early-morning-open-thread-farewell-nash/

    Since a couple of you were wondering what else I could tell you about Nash, there’s this story:

    Nash was never purely an outdoor cat. For instance, when the temp dipped below 50 (the norm for about half the year here in Minnesota), he was perfectly content to stay in. Still, the duplex we shared has a wonderful garden area, and for many years no AC. So in the spring and summer, it seemed kind of cruel to keep him in.

    It helped that Nash had a healthy fear of cars, so I knew he’d never venture out to the front of the house, which faces a busy street. The other thing I tried to do was make sure he was inside by my bedtime. Usually he stayed close by, so I could go round him up if necessary, but he did wander some, leading to a handful of all-nighters.

    So in early October of ’98, when he didn’t come back one night, I was more annoyed than worried. But when he wasn’t there in the morning, I knew something was wrong.

    I looked around and posted some signs, but there was no trace of him. I knew cats sometimes go missing and eventually return. So I had hope. But as the days passed, my hopes diminished and my dread grew.

    This went on for exactly two weeks and two days. I was about at the point where I didn’t expect to see him again. Late that night I’m vegging in front of the TV (no home Internet for me back then), thinking I should have gone to bed about half an hour earlier. Then I hear this soft thud at the door.

    Most nights I’d ignore that innocuous sound. It could have been the wind or squirrels on the roof or something. But, I thought, just maybe…

    Yep. I opened the door, and there was Nash. He wasn’t injured, but he was filthy and clearly had had little or nothing to eat. Our reunion was a blur of me hugging/cleaning him off with damp paper towels as he buried his face in a mound of kitty food.

    I have no idea what happened over those two weeks and two days. My only guess is that Nash went in someone’s garage (lured there by an evil mouse), hid when people appeared and got trapped while said people went out of town.

    Over the years Nash had a couple other outdoor incidents — and numerous confrontations with neighbor cats — but nothing really serious. Then, about 4-5 years ago, he suddenly lost all interest in going out. His favorite spot became the cable modem next to my computer. If he wasn’t dozing on that heat source, he could turn right to get some sun and watch the birds and squirrels outside the window. Or he could turn left to get in my face and demand food and/or attention. So I guess I understand the attractions of my computer table for him. I’d tell people he retired to there.

    This hasn’t been a good day. Every corner I turn in this house I know I won’t see my cat, but I keep feeling like he should be here. Again though, I feel a bit better for sharing this, and I’m eternally grateful for all your supportive comments.

  61. 61.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    August 28, 2011 at 1:33 am

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    @Yutsano:

    You per thang. What will you do if/when he’s re-elected?

    I will continue to hold President Obama’s feet to the fire, rhetorically, as well as anyone else who acts against the interests of the vast majority of American and planet Earth citizens by enabling right-wing fascist/corporate assholes of any stripe. I invite you to join me if you have an interest in that sort of thing. Also too, cult of personality cultists should concentrate on footwear, fusion cuisine, and such.
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  62. 62.

    Comrade Mary

    August 28, 2011 at 1:41 am

    @jeffreyw: WANT!!

  63. 63.

    Yutsano

    August 28, 2011 at 1:45 am

    @Uncle Clarence Thomas: LOL. Sure. Whatever.

  64. 64.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    August 28, 2011 at 1:49 am

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    @SensesFail:

    Yeah, why doesn’t President Obama just use his Ultimate Presidential Powers to bypass the Congress and

    Go to war with Libya? Assassinate American citizens without any legal authority? Spy on every American citizen’s every internet action? Maintain CIA “black sites” outside of Congressional review?

    BECAUSE HE’S WORSE THAN BUSH AND A SECRET CONSERVATIVE AND HE HATES TEH LIBERALS!

    In some ways, he is worse than Bush. He is also way too conservative and neoliberal to be considered a traditional Democrat. (So are the majority of sitting Democrats.) Finally, it is no secret that he does not like or respect liberals and progressives. However, please note that I myself have always maintained that he is a better president than George W. Bush, overall – one percent better. It’s my own copyrighted “One Percent Doctrine” theory/homage, so don’t wear it out.
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  65. 65.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    August 28, 2011 at 1:50 am

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    @Yutsano:

    LOL. Sure. Whatever.

    LOL. Sure. Whatever. (Did that sound lame and stupid for me to say?)
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  66. 66.

    Yutsano

    August 28, 2011 at 1:55 am

    @Uncle Clarence Thomas: Your opinion is unimportant. As is your smug and condescending attitude to all those who just can’t see the pure light of righteousness that you can. You’re just RIGHT, and no fact will deter you from that. Certitude.

    (to everyone else: yes I’m bored why do you ask?)

  67. 67.

    Lysana

    August 28, 2011 at 2:32 am

    Oh, yay, reminders as to why ABL went Galt allllll over the thread. Righteous.

    +2

  68. 68.

    LoudounLib

    August 28, 2011 at 2:44 am

    @Neil T.: Glad that you shared. Take care of yourself, honor your feelings. Watch, and listen – Nash will make himself known to you again.

  69. 69.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    August 28, 2011 at 3:41 am

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    @Yutsano:

    Your opinion is unimportant. As is your smug and condescending attitude to all those who just can’t see the pure light of righteousness that you can. You’re just RIGHT, and no fact will deter you from that. Certitude.

    Yutsano, your opinion is unimportant. As is your smug and condescending attitude to all those who just can’t see the pure light of righteousness that you can. You’re just RIGHT, and no fact will deter you from that. Certitude.

    (Oh, did that sound lame and stupid for me to say?)
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  70. 70.

    Uncle Clarence Thomas

    August 28, 2011 at 3:45 am

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    Last balloonbagger drubbing for the evening…

    On Tuesday, as Washington rebuilt itself after a less-than-apocalyptic earthquake, a joke started to circulate on Twitter and Facebook. The popular version went like this – There was just a 5.8 earthquake in Washington. President Obama wanted it to be 3.4, but the Republicans wanted 5.8, so he compromised.
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  71. 71.

    Chet

    August 28, 2011 at 5:35 am

    Brian Wilson/Beach Boys fans: Amazon has artwork and track listing for the forthcoming, monumental Smile Sessions box set up here.

    I’m drooling over this. Some of that stuff hasn’t been bootlegged or even confirmed to exist before.

  72. 72.

    WaterGirl

    August 28, 2011 at 11:21 am

    @Neil T.: You are a braver man than me. I had one harrowing outdoor-lost-for-2-nights ordeal, and then it was indoor-cat-time or me.

    These once in a lifetime kitties break our hearts when they leave, but we are so lucky to have had them.

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