::cue tiny violins::
The story that Alex Haley wouldn’t want you to know about:
GOP presidential candidate Gov. Rick Perry (TX) has faced severe backlash this week as the result of stories that he had opposed a campaign to remove the Confederate battle flag from statehouses across the South and that he had hosted family and friends at a West Texas hunting camp that once read âNiggerheadâ on its entrance gate. Yesterday on Mike Gallagherâs radio show, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R-SC) defended Perry. âRick Perry is not a racist,â Graham said, saying the Texas governor is the victim of an âintimidationâ campaign. âYou know if youâre a southern white guy, it is part of your life,â Graham complained. (read more)
Render unto me a break, guy.
[via Think Progress]
[cross-posted at Angry Black Lady Chronicles]
Rabble Arouser
For seriously? It’s hard out here for a white southern male? I am truly, for once in my life, lacking the words. Damn.
Uriel
@Rabble Arouser:
Don’t worry, I’m sure Corner Stone will be along shortly to explain what a soul crushing burden it is.
hhex65
it’s just a tradition, like SEC football, nothing anyone can do about it, like a Senator or Governor or whatever
cat48
Rush says the Occupy folks are Obama’s foot soldiers. Bet that’s news to him:
low-tech cyclist
I could at least understand the argument (not that I would buy it, but I’d at least understand it) if we were talking about the 1950s here. But we’re not.
I remember all those stories about the “New South” that had put racism behind it, and these were in the 1970s. So when a white male Southerner wants to tell me how tough it was to not take racist stands in the 1980s and 1990s, I’m thinking that by this point, you had a choice by any standard you care to name. If you opposed the flying of the Confederate battle flag, there were other whites taking that side; you wouldn’t be alone.
And if you were a grownup and were still using ‘nigger’ in any context by then, well, up yours. Nobody made you do that. Even if other people around you were still using it, you had the coward’s choice of letting it slide by, but not using the word yourself.
So a hearty F-U to both Rick Perry and Lindsey Graham. Worthless pieces of shit.
M. Bouffant
I’m a little tired of people of one breeding group deciding that other members of their group aren’t racist. Especially when it’s members of the historically dominant group coming to these conclusions.
M. Bouffant
Love the “George Allen has a jobs plan” advert at the top, ‘though.
Donate!
amk
@cat48: At least that fat racist pos is admitting that there is indeed the corporate greed.
JPL
@amk: Greed is good.
At least that is what Michael Douglas said in a movie.
harlana
aw, how can you compare somebody like Graham to an innocent, cute little kitty which probably has lots of major sinus issues?
JPL
FROOTS The untold story of Lindsay Graham. Now playing at a theater near you.
A Mom Anon
I swear,yesterday I saw a mini-van with a Herman Cain 2012 sticker AND a confederate flag sticker on it. Teh History,do they know it? Let’s cut some more GA school funding shall we?
There’s a family down the road from me that flies the old GA flag with the “stars and bars” constantly. Since forever. I guess when the flag was changed they bought out a supply of them because if the current one gets worn they replace it.
Oh how I wish Karma was swift.
HeartlandLiberal
I am from Alabama. White. Two brothers. Both turned totally to the dark side of the GOP and conservative fantasy land.
If I point out any of their racist drivel to them, they literally EXPLODE in anger, and accuse ME of being a racist for even suggesting such a thing. I mean, I am talking spittle flying anger.
When I blasted one of them by replying to the entire cc: list of relatives and friends when he included the classic ObamaCare image with Obama as African tribesman with a bone in his nose and grass skirt and shield, he blacklisted my email address and refused to speak to me for nearly a year. I finally called and made up, just because he is family (and my wife made me do it).
But he still does not get it.
The other brother was so incredibly vociferous back before the invasion of Iraq about all those WMDs, etc, etc, ignoring every fact I brought up and smirking at me as he explained how wrong and uninformed I was. Strangely he does not bring that topic up anymore. But he will get furious if I suggest that Blacks are disproportionately visited with prison and the death sentence. He will go into a paroxysm of anger and deny any and every fact and statistic, including all the overturned convictions of the past decade due to DNA and proof of misdeeds by prosecutors.
And don’t even get me started on the relatives who are fundamentalists, constantly trying to save our souls before the coming apocalypse. The ignorance and misinformation, most from Fox News, is so deep I have given up any and all hope of ever cutting through it. I just keep quiet and let them deal with their imaginary friend, denial of global warming, and belief that Obama is Hitler.
We have not driven the 500 miles to visit family in Alabama in several years, and are way over due for a visit.
I wish I could say I was excited about the prospect.
I am not.
Arclite
Cuz conservatives never fuck up, never apologize, and are always the fucking victim. Fuck them.
WereBear
Is this a “You might be a redneck” joke territory, or what?
Lurking Canadian
It’s just so unfair that people will think you’re a racist if you act like a racist. The downtrodden white man just can’t catch a break in the South these days.
4tehlulz
Was Lindsay weaing black in a Hot Topic when he said this?
arguingwithsignposts
I grew up in the south, and attended h.s. in a school that had just been integrated by the courts. I learned yes ma’am and no, sir, please and thank you and y’all, and what makes a good country fried steak and collard greens and fried okra, yada yada yada.
But, no, it wasn’t “just part of (my) life.” I knew racists – hell, I lived in the same house with some. But I never went camping at a place called N—–head, and I never wore any of that confederate battle flag bullshit, either.
It’s only “part of your life” if you choose for it to be by hanging out with dumbfuck racists.
WereBear
I went to high school in the south, too. But I never understood why so many chose to embrace the most poisonous and unattractive parts of the “antebellum myth.”
-Those big plantation houses were supposedly full of history and literature. Yet they scorned learning and education.
-Glorification of the military and soldiering. Why then embrace bullying and cowardice?
-Above all, expected to be ladies and gentlemen. Which does not include cruelty to, and degradation of, others.
What did they like? I guess… the racism.
MattMinus
Hmmmm… Seems like ABL has been posting a lot more since her griftathon started.
I guess she’s realized that no one cares about her posts when she’s not race trolling. She’s got to find a way to spin this as “white liberals are the real racists” if she wants to get the hit machine cranking.
Odie Hugh Manatee
Fix’t.
@MattNegative:
Your butthurt is noted and laughed at derisively. I’d say try again but I know you don’t need any encouragement.
Racists never do.
harlana
@A Mom Anon: that is hilarious in a tragic sort of way
harlana
@HeartlandLiberal: oh dear, you poor thing, you have my sympathies, i really really cannot be around people like that for extended periods of time, it takes a lot of strength and fortitude.
harlana
and let me tell you about “quiet racism” in the south. white people of “class” in the south are turned off by overt racism. you’re supposed to keep your racism quiet and “tasteful”. they’re sort of like the Romans in that regard. they don’t dislike it because it’s morally wrong, necessarily, it’s just “trashy behavior” – you know, like “white trash” sorta thing
harlana
To my point, Graham probably thought he was okay saying what he said because he didn’t use the n-word.
maya
Makes perfect sense if he was looking down at his crotch when he said that.
k2isnothome
Having lived half my adult life in the south (AL/GA/FL), I’ve slowly learned not to tarnish all white southern men as racist yahoos. There are lots of really decent, non-racists throughout the South so its wrong to tar them all with this brush.
But, I have to be honest, it is a challenge at times to see beyond the Richard Shelbys and Paul Brauns of the region. The fact that they are not repudiated means that the moral weight of the regions is still heaviest on their side of the scale.
That and the crossed-fuckyous draped across the rear windows of the pickup trucks.
Egypt Steve
It is hard to be a white southerner.
I saw cotton, and I saw ‘bac,
Tall white mansions and little shacks.
Southern man, when will you pay them back?
I heard screamin, and bull whips cracking,
How long?
El Cid
That’s a Wonkette-level apt choice of a photo illustration. First good laugh of the day.
Chris
They showed some of the facebook comments of people who linked to the article – gold star for this one,
gnomedad
@HeartlandLiberal:
Similar situation with my brother, though without the southern trappings. I feel for you.
Speedy
Yeah , well among some southern white guys , banging your sister or some random farm animal (allegedly) is part of their lives too,that doesn’t make it acceptable to the rest of civilized society.
El Cid
Yeah. As a Southern White Guy (TM) there’s no way as a younger person I could have imagined that being associated with a place called N*****head was somehow over the line.
I mean, hey, c’mon, it’s hard to adjust — Brown V. Board of Education only happened in 2004, it’s not like there’s been time to adjust.
If white moderates are allowed to slowly advance race relations on a locally acceptable timescale, unlike desired by all the outside agitators and liberal Jews, we can make sure that both sides are equal, while properly remaining separate as our culture deems apt.
someofparts
Few years back my friends were tsk tsking me because I wouldn’t hook up with this nice guy, made a good living yada yada. Sported that ole confederate flag on his BMW. Yep. Easy to see why no one has any patience with me.
Mattminus
@Odie Hugh Manatee:
You can yelp all you want and make the clever claim that anyone who disagrees with you is a racist, but the comment numbers prove me right.
One trick pony has one trick.
Stefan
âYou know if youâre a southern white guy, it is part of your life,â Graham complained.
Sure, just look at Bill Clinton and Al Gore.
arguingwithsignposts
@Mattminus:
Do you ever contribute substantively to any threads? Because the only time I see you here is when you’re shitting all over ABL’s posts.
There’s a really simple solution: stop reading them.
fn. I know, DNFTT
arguingwithsignposts
@Stefan: And Jimmy Carter. I hear he had some important position or other.
Chris
@Stefan:
Only goes to show that there’s a bias towards liberals because conservative white Southerners get shit for being racist but those two don’t.
WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!! also, too.
SRW1
What’s this brouhaha all about?
Is going into the embryo position no longer the accepted default reaction of the bully when challenged?
Paul in KY
@MattMinus: None of us give a shit what you think. You’re just wasting some of your life by making your pointless hissy-fit posts.
Svensker
Ugh. That’s all I’ve got to say. Ugh.
xjmueller
Perhaps they need a reparations movement.
rikryah
clutch the pearls, Ms. Lindsey.
clutch those pearls
Tone in DC
I would say that I can’t believe that Graham said that, but after the last eleven years, I so easily CAN.
We are so far down the rabbit hole, we’re about to come out of it in Shanghai. In this bizarro place we inhabit, those cops that beat Robert Davis in 2005 are gonna have him charged with maliciously damaging their night sticks with his head.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Davis_%28New_Orleans%29
Stefan
@Chris:
….and David Sedaris, and Zach Galifiniakis, also both white men from the South. This is obviously part of their life too.
Mattminus
@Paul in KY:
You do. You care deeply, or you wouldn’t respond.
Anyway, I’m trying to help. I’m giving free consulting on how to drive traffic.
If she had just thrown in a couple lines linking Power Bottom Graham to, say, Hamsher or Greenwald, this bad boy would be at 500 comments, and people like you would be donating to the griftathon to (try to) piss people like me off.
Mnemosyne
@Mattminus:
It’s funny how you keep using the word “grift” when you clearly have no idea what it actually means. You probably shouldn’t imitate UCT and Corner Stone quite so closely.
Odie Hugh Manatee
@Mattminus, Whiny Racist:
You incessantly post in threads, even ones not by ABL, taking shots at ABL about race. You are a butthurt little racist wanker who is angry because someone of color dares to point out the truth of what surrounds us all. Something that you want to pretend doesn’t exist, racism on the left and right. Your endless whining about race and ABL, especially when neither are the topic at hand, is proof enough for me.
Go whine at RedState, they’ll welcome you with open arms there.
Paul in KY
@Mattminus: Believe me, I don’t. It took me 20 secs to type out the first one & 15 secs on this one.
grandpajohn
Lindseys actions for the last year or so are easily explained. The SC tea party here has already made it very clear that he will be primaried next time he is up for re-election ./ at least one candidate is already announced. So for him the only thing to do is cast his supposed moderate label in the trash and try to become a hard right tea sipper.
ABL
@El Cid: 60% of the time it cracks me up every time.
Shade Tail
[eyeroll]
Folks, in case you haven’t figured it out yet, mattminus is a troll. Ignore the waste of DNA.
Alternately, counter-troll him by pretending you have him blocked by Cleek’s pie filter. The lot of them are such blithering dimwits that they actually fall for it. I did that to Corner Stone not too long ago, and he just *shrieked* like a stuck pig when I laughed at him for taking the bait.