Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Reality always lies in wait for … Democrats.

“Everybody’s entitled to be an idiot.”

We’ve had enough carrots to last a lifetime. break out the sticks.

Sitting here in limbo waiting for the dice to roll

Take hopelessness and turn it into resilience.

I’d hate to be the candidate who lost to this guy.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

In my day, never was longer.

They traffic in fear. it is their only currency. if we are fearful, they are winning.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

Let’s finish the job.

This blog will pay for itself.

Is it irresponsible to speculate? It is irresponsible not to.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

American History and Black History Cannot Be Separated

The poor and middle-class pay taxes, the rich pay accountants, the wealthy pay politicians.

If senate republicans had any shame, they’d die of it.

They are lying in pursuit of an agenda.

If you are still in the GOP, you are an extremist.

And now I have baud making fun of me. this day can’t get worse.

The worst democrat is better than the best republican.

In short, I come down firmly on all sides of the issue.

Tick tock motherfuckers!

Seems like a complicated subject, have you tried yelling at it?

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We are never going to be rid of this corrput clan, but at least they’ve got some idea of their standing with normal Americans:

According to a book excerpted in Le Monde, Dubya told French President Nicolas Sarkozy he “believed that Obama would win because his twins swore by him.”

Apart from eugenic disasters (holidays are for FAMILY!), what’s on the agenda this evening?

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  1. 1.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    I’ve always had a sense that the Bush twins are, considering the rotten stock they come from, better than they ought be.

    If I hadn’t given up on the Sabbath Gasbaggers years ago, this would probably do it now. As Pierce points out, FoxNews has the least religiose panel of them all. I am perversely happy to the right-wing bishops waddling into the fray. As annoying as they are, they seem determined to force Romney to keep the culture wars stoked, which I don’t think is good for him through the summer.

  2. 2.

    Southern Beale

    Predators play the Colorado Avalanche. We’re watching it on TV. Thanks to Detroit’s loss this afternoon we know we have home ice advantage for the playoffs so this game isn’t quite as crucual. But still, it’s the final game of the season.

    I’m talking hockey here, for you non-sports peeps.

  3. 3.

    Polish the Guillotines

    Apart from eugenic disasters (holidays are for FAMILY!), what’s on the agenda this evening?

    Watching the Sharks deal the Kings a brutal sad. And maybe watching the A’s deal the fans a brutal sad.

  4. 4.

    Peregrinus

    Over here, not too much planned. Bath, NyQuil, and bed – flying to NYC to meet my parents for Easter and their anniversary tomorrow.

  11. 11.

    cathyx

    Easter? What’s that? Meaningless to me except the Easter bunny visiting. My 13 year old still gets a basket. But I don’t have to hide it anymore.

  17. 17.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    Re: Kinkade – from the Sacramento Bee obit, he said: “I share something in common with Norman Rockwell and, for that matter, with Walt Disney, in that I really like to make people happy.”

    That wasn’t all he shared with Disney, or at least with Disney’s version of Pooh.

  19. 19.

    jl

    @efgoldman:

    ‘ I’m sorry for his family, but definitely no loss to the world of art. ‘

    Yeah, a tragic early death. What kind of ‘natural causes’ produces death at 54 these days? I think that is reserved for people in their 80s and 90s now.

    I’m not going to intentionally say anything mean about his art. There are many many worse things to do in this life than mass producing fantasy landscapes of geomorphically impossible and absurd bucolic scenes. They were pretty and some I have seen are amusing, almost Escher like in their impossible jumble of mutually inconsistent perspectives and frames of reference.

    This bit from the NY Times article surprised me:

    ” Mr. Kinkade grew up in Placerville in Northern California and was raised in relative poverty by a single mother. He said that he was drawn to art at a young age. As a young man, according to The Associated Press, Mr. Kinkade traversed the country by boxcar with another artist, James Gurney, to sketch the American landscapes that they encountered. ”

    Wow, Kincaid grew up a little NE of where I did. One would think some memory of real, possible, landscapes would have remained from his childhood, or travels around the country sketching.

  26. 26.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Xecky Gilchrist: Heh. I just saw that in his wiki entry. I remember Wiat Wait don’t tell me did a segment on him, and I remembered he was a weird dude, but I couldn’t remember the details.

    Easter is pretty meaningless to me. Even as a lapsed Catholic/agnostic, I still like Christmas, with all the emphasis on giving and caritas and all that shit, but this death cult stuff really turns me off. I flipped through the IFC channel and saw that I had missed a run of Bill Maher’s Religulous (those cheeky monkeys!) and I remember the Jeebus theme park in FL where people applaud during the Passion pageant, when the actor comes out carrying the cross and covered in fake blood. It’s weird and creepy and wrong. For Christ’s sake.

  28. 28.

    mdblanche

    I live in one of the states up next in the slouch towards Tampa and on my way home tonight who do I see who’s paid to put a billboard up? Yes, Ron Paul! Looks like Frothy and Sleazy aren’t the only dwarfs who don’t know when they’re no longer wanted. The curtain’s fallen, the lights have been turned up again, the band’s gone home, the liquor’s been locked back up, and the management’s calling the police to report a group of trespassers, but the last of the not-Mitts still won’t get off the stage. It’s almost as if by getting to know Willard personally they’ve come to loath him even more than the rest of us have.

  29. 29.

    Schlemizel

    I lived in FLA when Jeb ran for Gov against Lawton Chiles. It was memorable for 3 reasons:
    Jeb picked as Lt. Gov. mate a guy who had made statements against Jews & Cubans !!!
    Jeb tried to debate Lawton on TV & ended up with a deer in the headlights look again and again as Chiles took him apart.
    Pundits told us that George W. was the smart one !!!

  31. 31.

    jl

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: The Bush Twins, might just salvage the family name. I saw signs of promise when they drunkenly careened through several countries on a debauched vacation spree. One of them, (or both of them? I forget), seemed to put more than average effort into nepotism gigs, and now we find out they were early Obots.

    How about the GOP runs them for President? Better than Mitt, maybe?

    No, never mind, they might win.

  33. 33.

    PIGL

    @Jewish Steel: his paintings were frightfully twee and precious, and one senses somehow that those comically picturesque cottages and whatnots were slightly inhabited only by white people whose sources of income lay in sunnier climes IYKWIMAITYD. Kinda like a Norman Rockwellian Mansfield Park with way too many pinks and mauves.

    But peposterously awful as were his paintings, as ludic as were his subject and as questionable his aesthetic, he did not deserve his umtimely demise. At least, not for known crimes against art.

    Now, if you want to know what a real Painter Of Light would create, google “hockney ipad” and then go find an exhibit near you. It would be worth quite a journey, IMNHO.

  35. 35.

    RossInDetroit

    what’s on the agenda this evening?

    Gonna listen to more Bowie records and collect up bits for an electronics project. I have everything I need here and it’s all pretty well organized but there’s so much of it that I forget what I have and go buy more. Then I find a good place to store it and discover that three of them are already there. Will I ever use 13 fuse holders? 44 RCA audio jacks? A 52 lb filter inductor? Maybe. In the mean time that’s what basements are for.

  38. 38.

    MattR

    @efgoldman: I’ve been watching that commercial too (why couldn’t Ferris State pull the upset) but never made that connection. I was just trying to see if I could find some info on Google. Typed in the prahse “DQ commercial gary clone” and the fourth result was a description of Berkshire Hathaway from answers.com. Very weird. Could not find the actor’s name but I did find the commercial on Youtube.

  39. 39.

    r€nato

    does anybody know why The Poor Man stopped blogging in Dec. 2010??? I really miss him.

  41. 41.

    RossInDetroit

    @PIGL:

    Now, if you want to know what a real Painter Of Light would create, google “hockney ipad” and then go find an exhibit near you. It would be worth quite a journey, IMNHO

    Hockney painted his characteristic blue water-squiggles on the bottom of a few people’s pools. Or had someone paint them. I saw one in Fla and it was both funny and beautiful. That’s art.

  42. 42.

    Marcellus Shale, Public Dick

    I just talked to my siister the jesus freak, god i hate that religion.

  45. 45.

    General Stuck

    The Reds are getting pounded tonight by the fish. But we have 160 games to go, then the election of the century. Thank Earthmother for the Church of Baseball, that might be the only thing that keeps me sane through it all.

  46. 46.

    MattR

    @jl: They have to wait until 2016 when they are old enough. (I think you have to be 35 as of the inauguration and not Election Day)

  49. 49.

    feebog

    My partents, 88 and 91, are visiting. It has been a very busy week. Last Saturday night a big party with about 20 people. During the week, people popping in, or loading them in the car and driving them for a visit. Tonight, I am about to put lamb chops on the grill, my neice is joining us for dinner. afterwords, I think I will just flop, golf thim morning and then an hour of yard work when I got home, I’m pooped. Tomorrow, sleep in and watch the Masters, maybe some work in the garden.

  50. 50.

    Southern Beale

    @jl:

    Somehow stumbled across an article about their 2006 trip to Argentina the other day. NotJenna apparently had her purse and cell phone stolen at a restaurant. I’d forgotten that.

    But right-wingers had a hissy fit over one of the Obama girls taking a school trip to … where was it? Brazil or something?

  51. 51.

    David Koch

    Dubya .. “believed that Obama would win because his twins swore by him.”

    Ha ha hah ahha ha haah ahahah aha hah ha aha ha

    Looks like everyone in the Bush family dumped on McCain, even the kids.

  53. 53.

    Southern Beale

    @David Koch:

    Before he was the Pander Bear McCain was very critical of Bush. No wonder no one in the Bush camp liked him. Hell, they’re the ones who made up that “illegitimate black child” story for the South Carolina primary, right?

  54. 54.

    burnspbesq

    Proof that the first two months of the baseball season are meaningless: the Mets are tied for first place in the NL East.

  55. 55.

    Gex

    @General Stuck: The political ads are going to ruin it for you. Sorry to say.

    I’m planning on buying a couple of my favorite shows on iTunes and avoiding network and cable programming as much as possible. This is mainly for the benefit of others, as I know the ad season would make me homicidal otherwise.

  56. 56.

    jl

    @MattR: Eff that ageist shit. So what?

    Scalia will say ‘what, do you expect me to read their birth certificates and add and stuff?’, and if they are still registered GOP, I figure the conservatives on the SCOTUS will OK it and Kennedy will be swayed by, I dunno, somce pics Roberts has stashed away, so 5/4 Jenna and Not Jenna are eligible due to ‘aw the heck with that egghead arithmetic, who knows if it is really true’.

    Anybody but Mitt or Rih running for president, I say.

  57. 57.

    NotMax

    So when do the nutballs start railing against Australia for its role in the so-called “war on Christians?”

    Kids in Australia will wake up Sunday to find eggs stashed around the house — but it may not be the Easter Bunny who leaves them there.
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    Some in Australia are turning down treats from the famous furball, opting instead for delivery from the Easter Bilby — a long-nosed rat-like animal that lives in the desert.
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    A campaign by the Foundation for a Rabbit Free Australia has been pushing for a new, more Australian Easter animal — the bilby.

  60. 60.

    RossInDetroit

    @NotMax:

    I think Australians are not fond of bunnies. They’re an introduced invasive species that has caused a lot of ecological problems. So preferring a native furry mammal is understandable but certainly not predictable.

  63. 63.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    @Southern Beale: McCain hired the So Carolina operative who ran that show, IIRC. I’m fairly cynical but that surprised even me, especially since I see McCain as a vindictive fuck with a long memory. Bush too, but too self-centered to be as obsessively bitter as McCain.

    I made a google, and the race-baiting fuck is Tucker Eskew.

  64. 64.

    General Stuck

    @Gex:

    I get my base-a-ball via subscription at MLB, and they don’t do commercials. But I hear ya, and have scoped out a couple of sci fi series on NF instant to get into. Here and Here

    Watched the first episode of Outcasts last night, and seemed pretty good. Gonna watch an episode of the second tonight.

  65. 65.

    RossInDetroit

    @Southern Beale:

    they wouldn’t have done that without W’s knowledge and OK.

    I’ve always assumed Bush was ignorant of everything except breakfast, lunch and dinner. Which doesn’t excuse what was done on his behalf.

  67. 67.

    PIGL

    @Jewish Steel: I saw his current exhibit at the Royal Ontario Museum over Christmas. Stunning….and he’s doing it with no more than a standard paint application, far as I can see. Thank you for the link…

    (sadly, I was not the only fan, and the tour book was sold out!)

  68. 68.

    Hill Dweller

    @Southern Beale:

    But right-wingers had a hissy fit over one of the Obama girls taking a school trip to … where was it? Brazil or something?

    The Obama daughter was actually on a service trip for her school, but wingers don’t give a shit about details.

  71. 71.

    The prophet Nostradumbass

    @Polish the Guillotines:

    Watching the Sharks deal the Kings a brutal sad. And maybe watching the A’s deal the fans a brutal sad.

    Thanks to Bartolo Colon, the A’s are doing just that. I hope to see some wailing from Wil Wheaton later.

  72. 72.

    Arundel

    Ha. There’s no way Thomas Kinkade “travelled the country by boxcar”. What malarkey. Give me a break, the Times reporting this self-mythologizing. Ugh.

  73. 73.

    jl

    @Hill Dweller:

    ” The Obama daughter was actually on a service trip for her school, but wingers don’t give a shit about details. ”

    I did not know that. I didn’t see that in any of the news stories, but then the kerfluffle was so silly, I only read one or two short pieces.

    Seems like neither of the Obama kids will be old enough to pull off a drunken party hardy road trip while their dad is still in office. If only they were a few years older, that would be a BS scandal for the ages.

    The rebellious side of me likes to see children of Very Serious People go rogue, off script, and create mass PR deviltry, regardless of party affiliation. And, dang, I think that last sentence is almost verbatim from my comment on Bush twins romp through Argentina.

    Edit: Except, what would the Romney boy’s cook up for a wild time? That might be either hilariously corny and boring, or… I don’t want to think about it, and hope no dogs would be inadvisedly transportated.

  74. 74.

    Lojasmo

    Finished up my dog fence (between the garage and the deck) by making a gate. Making (and hanging) a 60″ gate is a pain in the ass.

    40 minute trail run this morning, two 30 minute dawg walks.

    +4

  75. 75.

    Evolving Deep Southerner

    @Jewish Steel: Didn’t he get drunk and make a public ass of himself a little while back? Sort of the Breitbart of the kitch-Christian set? Too lazy to Google it.

  76. 76.

    Raven

    My bride had two of her garden friends over, I made dinner and we watched the Cohen’s Ladykillers. Pretty funny.

  77. 77.

    Kyle

    @PIGL:

    I know people who knew Kinkade.
    He was a heavy drinker. He was going through divorce proceedings in the last couple of years (not sure if it was completed), which wouldn’t have helped.
    In the last few years he wasn’t even producing paintings — he had computer-scanned images of cottages, trees, ocean waves, etc. from his old paintings, and would assemble them on Photoshop to make new pictures.

  78. 78.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    what’s on the agenda this evening?

    Making a big batch of pizza dough so there may later be a big batch of pizza!

    Well, maybe not that big a batch. Three pizzas’ worth is all I like to do by hand and this evening feels like a good evening for kneading.

  79. 79.

    jl

    @Kyle:

    ” In the last few years he wasn’t even producing paintings—he had computer-scanned images of cottages, trees, ocean waves, etc. from his old paintings, and would assemble them on Photoshop to make new pictures. ”

    That explains a lot. A sad end.

  80. 80.

    MikeJ

    I baked some bread today, following a recipe I’ve never used (mom saw it somewhere and wanted it, and I’m a nice son). Worse than Jesus! It rose three times. Urgh. I started at about 1pm and it finally came out of the oven at about 6:30.

  84. 84.

    Southern Beale

    One of our players just fell on our backup goalie’s head and he’s off to the locker room now. Damn, guys. Try not to hurt each other out there. You’ve got the playoffs coming.

  85. 85.

    Evolving Deep Southerner

    @Jewish Steel: Found it. It’s Wikipedia, so know that up front:

    The Los Angeles Times has reported that some of Kinkade’s former colleagues, employees, and even collectors of his work say that he has a long history of cursing and heckling other artists and performers. The Times further reported that he openly groped a woman’s breasts at a South Bend, Indiana sales event, and mentioned his proclivity for ritual territory marking through urination, once relieving himself on a Winnie the Pooh figure at the Disneyland Hotel in Anaheim while saying “This one’s for you, Walt.”[28][29] In a letter to licensed gallery owners acknowledging he may have behaved badly during a stressful time when he overindulged in food and drink, Kinkade said accounts of the alcohol-related incidents included “exaggerated, and in some cases outright fabricated personal accusations.” The letter did not address any incident specifically. [29]
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    In 2006 John Dandois, Media Arts Group executive, recounted a story that on one occasion (“about six years ago”) Kinkade became drunk at a Siegfried & Roy magic show in Las Vegas and began shouting “Codpiece! Codpiece!” at the performers. Eventually he was calmed by his mother.[28] Dandois also said of Kinkade, “Thom would be fine, he would be drinking, and then all of a sudden, you couldn’t tell where the boundary was, and then he became very incoherent, and he would start cursing and doing a lot of weird stuff like touching himself.”[28] On 11 June 2010, Kinkade was arrested in Carmel, California on suspicion of driving while under the influence of alcohol.[30]

  93. 93.

    Xecky Gilchrist

    @gnomedad: For Canadian Juicers: finally, a superhero of your own.

    I can think of one earlier than him!

    (ETA: and now that I look closer, the site that’s on has gobs of ’em! Including Reid Fleming, who I knew about but I wouldn’t exactly classify as a hero.)

  97. 97.

    Southern Beale

    This Thomas Kinkade story is weird to me. He died “of natural causes” and they didn’t say what of and now his family if off to Australia? WTF? He lived and died in CA.

  98. 98.

    suzanne

    Per the grilling discussion last night, I bought this grill for my husband for his birthday. Anyone have experience/thoughts? It was the same price as one of the Weber models, but had stainless grates instead of ceramic, which I hear is better.

    Still happy that Thomas Kinkade is dead.

  102. 102.

    jl

    @suzanne:

    ” Per the grilling discussion last night, I bought this grill for my husband for his birthday. Anyone have experience/thoughts? ”

    How do you make gravy on a grill?

    No gravy, I’m out. Period.

  106. 106.

    piratedan

    @suzanne: looks nifty….. hope you got the tongs and spatula to match, natch…. Because there ain’t nothin better than a fine lookin woman holdin a spatula, and you’re all kinds of fine (to borrow shamelessly from Frankie Figs)…

    geez, been on the road three days and I’m channeling bad lines from The Whole Nine Yards

  108. 108.

    suzanne

    @piratedan: Yes, I got tools and a scrub brush and a cedar plank and a grill basket and a mitt and a cover. However, I have never grilled anything, So I would look distinctly out of my element.

    If you wanna see hilarious, awesome art, look up Komar and Melamid.

  111. 111.

    Jennifer

    @Kyle: Whenever a door in the world of terrible art closes, a window opens….

    I did a rant about Kinkade a few years ago at my joint – title was “Thomas Kinkade: Painter of Shite.”

  112. 112.

    Splitting Image

    @PeakVT:

    Muppets make everything better. I saw that a couple of years ago when I picked up the DVD set they stuck it on. It’s funnier than any three minutes of just about any show they actually put on the air.

    Jim Henson was a genius.

  114. 114.

    trollhattan

    Echoes of Iraq and Afghanistan will rattle around the nation for decades to come. On this Easter’s eve I’m thinking of Michael, his parents, and the tens of thousands of wounded and damaged vets across the country who still need our support. Before he became a Marine, Michael was a skinny, lanky, happy little kid his father occasionally brought to the office. After he was blown nearly to smithereens in Iraq I had the opportunity to shake his hand and wish him a complete recovery and a long life. Regrettably, that was not to be.

    http://www.sacbee.com/2012/04/07/4397187/iraq-veteran-survived-bomb-but.html

  116. 116.

    PIGL

    @Raven: well…someone said “heavy drinker” which would be me, perhaps. Kincaid’s story is one of raging out-of-control alcoholism. Not the same thing at all.

    And yes, alcohol is probably more dangerous than any drugs you could name except the big three (cocaine, meth, and heroin) and it is much the hardest to kick.

  118. 118.

    El Cid

    I know I’m not saying anything innovative, but I just wanted to say how much I really, really hate these Bush fuckers.

  119. 119.

    Little Boots

    and I’m not saying anything fresh eiher,

    but I really, really like El Cid.

    dammit, it needed saying.

  120. 120.

    some guy

    suzanne

    looks good. I do NOT understand what the fuck all the manufacturers are doing pushing the ‘porcelain coated grills”as they really suck.

    stainless steeel.

    anyway, get a decent BBQ book, and grille away. the way to be a good griller is to grille. start w burgers and franks, move on to more complicated stuff, like leg of lamb or shrimp skewers. before you know it you’ll be doing clams tapas and the real hard stuff.

  123. 123.

    suzanne

    @some guy: Heh, well, I’m a vegetarian. My husband is the carnivore. I want to get good at making him steaks, but this is really his toy. Glad I got the stainless, then. The Weber looked kind of shitty.

  124. 124.

    Little Boots

    I miss john.

    I know it’s not reciprocated, but I just miss john. he’s fun. prickly fun, but he’s fun.

  128. 128.

    Elias

    After Barbara’s remark, they really missed out on not having Dubya point out that he won without the most votes. Santorum 2012!

  129. 129.

    Yutsano

    @suzanne: Eggplant is divine grilled. So is asparagus. Quite a few veggies lend themselves well to the application of open flame. No reason you can’t make your tongue happy here as well.

  130. 130.

    Jewish Steel

    @Evolving Deep Southerner:

    The Times further reported that he openly groped a woman’s breasts at a South Bend, Indiana sales event…

    Well, in his defense, who among us has not heard the siren call of a South Bend lady’s breasts?

  132. 132.

    El Cid

    @Little Boots:

    el cid, where the hell are you?

    Sorry LB, there were many beers and smoked pork chops involved. Pero gracias otra vez, para servirle.

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