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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Open Thread: “No Labels? No Results? No Problem”

Open Thread: “No Labels? No Results? No Problem”

by Anne Laurie|  July 28, 20148:11 pm| 76 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Grifters Gonna Grift, Open Threads, Assholes, Decline and Fall, Ever Get The Feeling You've Been Cheated?

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Remember the “political and media A-listers” of lobbyist self-promotion group No Labels?:

Republicans and ex-Clintonistas, spanning the political gamut from far-right to center-right! Hey, no point bothering with ‘unserious’, non-Right points of view, if your whole purpose is to encourage that all-American chimera known as “Centrism”. McKinnon & Mark Penn, together again — and if either one takes you by the hand, be sure to count your fingers afterwards…

Meredith Shiner at Yahoo News reports that McKinnon & Penn have just about given up on that figleaf of “bipartisanship”, to better tap the deep pockets of GOP diehards:

… Like many other outside political groups, No Labels spends a disproportionate part of its budget maintaining and promoting its own organization, trying to keep its profile high while ensuring a steady flow of fundraising dollars, whose donors they keep secret, in a cluttered non-profit environment. As part of its efforts to gain legitimacy and grow its membership No Labels has also occasionally waded into congressional contests that in ways that have raised suspicions among Democrats about the group’s own commitment to bipartisanship.

And though No Labels has positioned itself as a warrior against gridlock, an internal document obtained by Yahoo News suggests the group is banking on more political dysfunction in an attempt to find “opportunity” and relevance for itself.

The confidential document, distributed at No Labels’ May executive board meeting, outlines a “break through strategy” for the group, which despite raising millions and a buzzy-for-cable-news-talk launch, has struggled to find a foothold on the campaign trail or in the halls of Congress. The first point in that strategy is a “balance of power shift in the U.S. Senate,” an awkward position to outline, if not advocate, given No Labels’ aim of bipartisanship and that one of the group’s co-chairs, Democratic Senator Joe Manchin of West Virginia, currently sits in the majority caucus.

“Should the balance of power in the U.S. Senate flip following the 2014 midterm elections and Republicans gain control, No Labels sees an opportunity to bridge the gap between Congress and the White House,” the document reads in its “Break Through Strategy” section. “With Republicans holding control of both chambers in Congress and a Democrat in the White House, the likelihood of gridlock will be higher than ever before.

“We have already begun back door conversations with Senate leaders to discuss this increasingly likely scenario,” the document continues.

This privately stated position exacerbates an already publicly spoiled relationship with Senate Democrats, who are still fuming from an April incident in which the group supported conservative Republican Cory Gardner in Colorado over Manchin’s colleague, incumbent Democrat Mark Udall. The endorsement, which No Labels later tried to clarify by saying that any candidate could be backed by the group if they just agreed to be a member, was touted by Gardner in press releases & caused the few Senate Democrats involved with the group to threaten to pull their membership, according to Democratic sources….

Much of the group’s expenses go toward sustaining or promoting itself. According to No Labels’ confidential document, the group employed 22 paid staffers and eight consultants as of May. Of its projected $4.5 million budget for 2014, only four percent — or $180,000 — of spending was slotted for “Congressional Relations.” By contrast, administrative and operational expenses got $1.035 million over the same time period. Another five percent was set for travel. A further 30 percent ($1.35 million) was earmarked for digital growth and press, and 14 percent for fundraising…

No Labels’ critics question the seriousness of a group that includes a number of Republicans whose conservative bent and heated rhetoric have more of an outsize influence on their party than does the liberal wing on the Democratic Party. The No Labels website talks about “unprecedented, even dangerous” tactics from the right in trying to defeat health care, but the group also includes some of the most outspoken members on this issue. Democratic critics ask what it says about the group that its so-called “Problem solvers” could vote to shut down the government or against raising the debt ceiling but maintain their “problem solver” status by attending No Labels meetings…

Back during the Reagan Administration, critic Calvin Trillin first suggested that members of Congress should be required — like NASCAR drivers — to wear uniforms prominently emblazoned with the logos of all their monetary supporters. It’s still a good idea, frankly. But in the case of serial offenders like McKinnon and his fellow grifters, I’d go a step further (for the historians!) and require lobbyists to get a logo tattoo for every supporter above a certain level. I’d even be willing to calibrate the size of the mandatory tattoo with the size of the donation — the bigger the “love gift”, the more extensive the flair.

(C’mon, you don’t think the Koch brothers wouldn’t be secretly delighted to see their Big Swinging Donations suitably publicized?)

(More history on Mark McKinnon from Mr. Pierce and BJ’s own Dennis Greenia, among others, here.)

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  1. 1.

    Cervantes

    July 28, 2014 at 8:15 pm

    Calvin Trillin is great!

    He did write one all-too-sad-and-serious book.

  2. 2.

    WereBear

    July 28, 2014 at 8:17 pm

    I always felt “No Labels” was just a way of pretending not to be Republicans.

  3. 3.

    Ben Cisco (onboard the Defiant)

    July 28, 2014 at 8:21 pm

    Anybody who actually believed in this drek was either a sap, a sycophant, or in on the con. Their motives were clear from the start.

  4. 4.

    Baud

    July 28, 2014 at 8:22 pm

    By contrast, administrative and operational expenses got $1.035 million over the same time period.

    What do MBAs call hookers and blow, Alex?

  5. 5.

    Roger Moore

    July 28, 2014 at 8:24 pm

    @WereBear:

    I always felt “No Labels” was just a way of pretending not to be Republicans.

    It’s a command, rather than a description. They’re saying “Don’t label me!”, because it’s the only way they have a hope of not being seen as the bunch of relabeled Republicans they are.

  6. 6.

    BruceFromOhio

    July 28, 2014 at 8:27 pm

    @Baud: I had to wait all day to laugh that hard.

    A piece of that grifters pork pie would be sweet paycheck heaven, if it wasn’t for Mark Penn leaving a trail of slime in the break room and everywhere else he slithers.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    July 28, 2014 at 8:30 pm

    I actually regard this as a positive development. All of the money being sucked out of rich donors that goes to line the pockets of grifters like these is money which isn’t being spent on attack ads and the like. See also: Palin, Sarah.

  8. 8.

    Karen in GA

    July 28, 2014 at 8:31 pm

    Were these the same as the Unity ’08 people? Every four years we get similar groups of Very Serious People with the same M.O.

  9. 9.

    Eric U.

    July 28, 2014 at 8:32 pm

    I always figured the “no labels” people were attempting to peel off nominally democratic voters. I think that anyone that would fall for their schtick wasn’t going to vote for a mouth-breathing republican. Although I have been surprised on that score.

  10. 10.

    dmsilev

    July 28, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    @efgoldman: I take it you’re not planning on subscribing to her new video feed thingy then?

  11. 11.

    Anoniminous

    July 28, 2014 at 8:35 pm

    Republicans have a brand problem. No Labels is an effort to get around public perception.

  12. 12.

    CTVoter

    July 28, 2014 at 8:36 pm

    Wow. 180,000 dollars for “relations”. Grifters gonna grift, as I’m certain many others have pointed out.

    Why aren’t people pointing and laughing at this crowd?

  13. 13.

    Roger Moore

    July 28, 2014 at 8:38 pm

    @CTVoter:

    Wow. 180,000 dollars for “relations”.

    That’s the polite name for nepotism.

  14. 14.

    CTVoter

    July 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    @efgoldman: And mid-70s. Ahem. “Don’t want sand kicked in your face? Order this program now!”

  15. 15.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 8:39 pm

    Much of the group’s expenses go toward sustaining or promoting itself. According to No Labels’ confidential document, the group employed 22 paid staffers and eight consultants as of May. Of its projected $4.5 million budget for 2014, only four percent — or $180,000 — of spending was slotted for “Congressional Relations.” By contrast, administrative and operational expenses got $1.035 million over the same time period. Another five percent was set for travel. A further 30 percent ($1.35 million) was earmarked for digital growth and press, and 14 percent for fundraising…

    It should surprise no one to learn that No Labels is a 501(c)4 organization.

  16. 16.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 28, 2014 at 8:40 pm

    @efgoldman: Medical expense – aversion therapy?

  17. 17.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 8:41 pm

    @CTVoter:

    Charles Atlas FTW!!

  18. 18.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Back during the Reagan Administration, critic Calvin Trillin first suggested that members of Congress should be required — like NASCAR drivers — to wear uniforms prominently emblazoned with the logos of all their monetary supporters. It’s still a good idea, franklly.

    I never knew the idea originated with Calvin Trillin, nor did I remember that it was first proposed that long ago. But it’s a natural conceit for political cartoonists — I haven’t bothered to dig, but I’m quite sure Mike Lukovich has had at least a few panels depicting Congress with an array of sponsor patches.

  19. 19.

    Anoniminous

    July 28, 2014 at 8:46 pm

    Vast methane plumes escaping from the seafloor” discovered in Siberian Arctic Sea

    Just a week into the sampling program and SWERUS-C3 scientists have discovered vast methane plumes escaping from the seafloor of the Laptev continental slope. These early glimpses of what may be in store for a warming Arctic Ocean could help scientists project the future releases of the strong greenhouse gas methane from the Arctic Ocean.

    ”This was somewhat of a surprise,” writes chief scientist Örjan Gustafsson, Stockholm University, in his latest blog entry. He speculates that the leaking methane from the seafloor of the continental slope may have its origins in collapsing “methane hydrates,” clusters of methane trapped in frozen water due to high pressure and low temperature.

    This is not good.

  20. 20.

    Mnemosyne

    July 28, 2014 at 8:47 pm

    @WereBear:

    Since this is an open thread, I got my new bamboo sleep mask and the SleepShield screen protector for my iPad Mini in the mail today. If I notice a difference with the SleepShield, I’ll let everyone know.

  21. 21.

    Cacti

    July 28, 2014 at 8:48 pm

    @WereBear:

    I always felt “No Labels” was just a way of pretending not to be Republicans.

    I’d rather they work on making their label one that they don’t have to feel ashamed of.

  22. 22.

    lamh36

    July 28, 2014 at 8:49 pm

    Ted Cruz, Kirsten Gillibrand team up on Hamas

    Gillibrand and Cruz criticize Hamas for using “innocent civilians as human shields.”

    Sens. Ted Cruz and Kirsten Gillibrand united on Monday to push a resolution condemning Hamas in its war against Israel, building on their burgeoning bipartisan alliance.

    The resolution from the Texas Republican and New York Democrat strongly criticizes Hamas for using “innocent civilians as human shields,” tags Hamas and other terrorist groups with the blame for thousands of rocket attacks on Israel launched from Gaza and demands that Palestine Liberation Organization chairman Mahmoud Abbas condemn Hamas’s tactics.

  23. 23.

    WereBear

    July 28, 2014 at 8:50 pm

    @Mnemosyne: So hope it helps!

    I tried three different kinds of eye masks before I found those, which I love.

    I’m pleased they are doing blue light blockers now… they didn’t have one for my iPod touch, but I invested in some amber tinted sun readers which let me read myself to sleep as usual.

  24. 24.

    The Pale Scot

    July 28, 2014 at 9:01 pm

    logo tattoo

    Hey! that’s my idea!

    But I was thinking more along the lines of horrible disfiguring branding and scars, something that, you know, makes a statement.

    Oil lobbyist – permanent tar and feathers of sea birds

    MIC lobbyist – random amputation and head injuries etc

  25. 25.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    Yikes, I’ll say it’s not good. More and more, I’m beginning to feel there are advantages to being old.

    Well, oldER.

  26. 26.

    BGinCHI

    July 28, 2014 at 9:05 pm

    I wouldn’t piss on Mark Penn if his heart was on fire.

    And McKinnon gives off such a clear sociopath vibe I can’t believe anyone is taken in by him.

  27. 27.

    WereBear

    July 28, 2014 at 9:09 pm

    @BGinCHI: I feel similarly about Ted Cruz, for instance.

    I don’t understand how anyone is not instantly repelled by that face.

  28. 28.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:10 pm

    @The Pale Scot:

    When I was a child, I was utterly fascinated by a National Geographic article, with many photos, of a tribe in … somewhere, can’t remember, might have been Africa, or South America, or Australia. Anyhow, their form of body art was to slice open the skin with shells or stones in various elaborate patterns, pack the incision with mud, and wait until the scar tissue grew over. So they ended up with these incredible, intricate, 3-D designs all over their arms and torsos and faces.

    You should do that to the lobbyists. Except not as pretty.

  29. 29.

    BGinCHI

    July 28, 2014 at 9:17 pm

    @WereBear: Cruz reminds me of a man dressed up as an old woman in a comedy act about how senior citizens complain about everything.

    Like a creepy and pathetic Flip Wilson.

    Or maybe, better yet, like Madame from Waylon & Madame, but with no class.

  30. 30.

    Anoniminous

    July 28, 2014 at 9:20 pm

    @efgoldman:

    The consensus was methane hydrates (or clathrates) were not expected to be a significant factor in GW in this century. It was expected (good paper, BTW):

    Contemporary and future gas hydrate degradation will occur primarily on the circum-Arctic Ocean continental shelves (Sector 2; Macdonald 1990, Lachenbruch et al. 1994, Maslin 2010), where subsea permafrost thawing and methane hydrate dissociation have been triggered by warming and inundation since Late Pleistocene time, and at the feather edge of the GHSZ on upper continental slopes (Sector 3), where the zone’s full thickness can dissociate rapidly due to modest warming of intermediate waters.

    The usual figure trotted out is methane has a 21 times greater contribution to global warming over 100 years than the equivalent amount of CO2. So finding arctic water methane plumes, they’ve already been found in the tundra, is a Big Deal.

  31. 31.

    The Pale Scot

    July 28, 2014 at 9:22 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: Exactly, long time ago when I was paying attention to the culture war Fundies vs reality, I had the thought that if you wanted to run your life according to a Bronze age book you should be excluded from medicine and electricity and be required to wear a grass skirt (vegan), a crucifix thru the nose and a big chrome plated hat with 1 foot crucifix on top.

    Oh, and you’d have to always be carrying a banjo when you go out of the house. no exclusions, banjos spread the good news

  32. 32.

    Jay C

    July 28, 2014 at 9:23 pm

    @efgoldman:

    The longer she goes, the more she becomes the 21st century intartoobz version of the ads that used to appear on the inside back cover of comic books in the 50s and 60s.

    You mean, like “X-Ray specs”, “ventriloquism whistles” and “whoopie cushions”??

    Yep, that’s Our Sarah: nailed it!

  33. 33.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:24 pm

    @WereBear:

    His expression is always booth snooty and snotty.

    Snootty, I guess.

  34. 34.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:26 pm

    @Jay C:

    And Sea Monkeys! Don’t forget the Sea Monkeys!

  35. 35.

    Betty Cracker

    July 28, 2014 at 9:28 pm

    @lamh36: I like Gillibrand and consider her a worthy bearer of the egg-carrier presidential standard if HRC washes out. So I hate to see her joining forces with Cruz for any purpose other than stuffing him into a cannon to be shot into a toxic waste dump. WTF? I get the compulsory requirement to kiss Israel’s ass for political reasons. But co-signing Cruz? She is officially stricken from my Christmas card list.

  36. 36.

    WereBear

    July 28, 2014 at 9:30 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I always wanted sea monkeys. But then I got something better!

    Village of Elves

  37. 37.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:33 pm

    @The Pale Scot:

    Oh, and you’d have to always be carrying a banjo when you go out of the house. no exclusions, banjos spread the good news

    Paging KarenInGA. KarenInGA, please pick up the nearest Pale Courtesy Phone.

  38. 38.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    @WereBear:

    Hahaha. I thought I had read all of your archives at some point or another, but I missed that one.

    I’ve never told you about when we had ten cats, have I (nine of them the offspring, in litters of two, three, four, of one fetching female)?

    (This was when I was a youngster and nobody much bothered — OBVS — with spaying and neutering.)

  39. 39.

    Mike J

    July 28, 2014 at 9:39 pm

    @WereBear: Reminds me of a favorite song.

  40. 40.

    joel hanes

    July 28, 2014 at 9:41 pm

    require lobbyists to get a logo tattoo for every supporter above a certain level.

    ob. book : In The Penal Colony by Franz Kafka

  41. 41.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 28, 2014 at 9:45 pm

    It is a sad testimony that these grifting parasites are taken seriously. But then again, those who take them seriously are, themselves, grifting parasites.

    Wipe them out. All of them.

  42. 42.

    Roger Moore

    July 28, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @BGinCHI:

    I wouldn’t piss on Mark Penn if his heart was on fire.

    You’d need a microscope to know.

  43. 43.

    some guy

    July 28, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    @lamh36:

    it’s ALWAYS projection with the Zionists. the only ones using human shields in that war is the Israel Occupation Forces. protecting and promoting the interests of the Israeli Occupation Forces, and the apartheid regime they serve, is the sole bipartisan project (almost) everyone in the US House and US Senate agree on.

  44. 44.

    mtiffany

    July 28, 2014 at 9:47 pm

    “No Labels?”

    Isn’t that how we wound up with rat feces in our sausage; and arsenic, lead, radium, and copper sulfate in makeup and medicines?

  45. 45.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 28, 2014 at 9:48 pm

    @efgoldman: My doctor once handed me a cartoon just prior to a prostate exam.

    The cartoon shows a doctor talking to a male patient whose pants are around his ankles.

    “This is going to feel like I’m sticking my finger up your ass”

  46. 46.

    Roger Moore

    July 28, 2014 at 9:49 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    You should do that to the lobbyists. Except not as pretty.

    Let’s just make sure the dirt you pack into the wounds has plenty of Clostridium perfringens spores.

  47. 47.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 9:56 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    I had to Google that, but I like what I found:

    The action of C. perfringens on dead bodies is known to mortuary workers as tissue gas and can be halted only by embalming.

  48. 48.

    kc

    July 28, 2014 at 9:57 pm

    “Should the balance of power in the U.S. Senate flip following the 2014 midterm elections and Republicans gain control, No Labels sees an opportunity to bridge the gap between Congress and the White House,”

    Well, maybe they can get that aloof Obama to invite some Republican Congressmen to the WH for cocktails.

  49. 49.

    Snarki, child of Loki

    July 28, 2014 at 10:03 pm

    If GOP politicians get the logo tattoos that they have so diligently earned, then they’ll have to completely cover up in public.

    AKA: Darth Vader costumes.

  50. 50.

    ruemara

    July 28, 2014 at 10:07 pm

    @lamh36: And there’s no proof of that claim from media outlets that aren’t about toeing the AIPAC line. Jesus, you’d think a US official would have enough stones to stand up for the truth even once. But no.

  51. 51.

    Ruckus

    July 28, 2014 at 10:10 pm

    @WereBear:
    Maybe they don’t remember Joe McCarthy. Cause Teddie looks like his evil son.

  52. 52.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 10:11 pm

    @kc:

    You know, I almost get sick to my stomach every time I think about how the Republican “leadership” (scare quotes very intentional) has dissed President Obama’s invitations to state dinners, film screenings (Lincoln, for the gods’ sake, with Steven Spielberg in the room), and other events. The level of rudeness is just beyond my comprehension.

    Anybody else whose repeated invitations got one “regret” after another would strike those names from their invitation list. But if Obama did that, I guaranfuckingtee he would be called out for throwing a party and not inviting the Speaker or whoever.

  53. 53.

    lamh36

    July 28, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    Very interesting article on James Brown and the Rolling Stones when they were performing together at the music concert in 1964. James Brown and his band brung it so hard, Mick Jagger and the Stones were like, “we don’t want to follow that”!

    The Rock’s Backpages Flashback: The Legendary 1964 T.A.M.I. Show

    ..Jack Nitzsche: The Stones wanted to close the show, but they’d never seen James Brown before. It was the only time I’ve ever seen Jagger crack. We all stood at the side of the stage, watching James Brown do his act [during rehearsal] and after it was over, Mick said, “We’ll go on first! Any place on the show–we can’t follow that!”

    …Bobby Byrd: We talked to them afterwards and they said, “We ain’t never had our butt kicked like that. Y’all kicked it to death.” After the show, James and Ben [Bart] tried to find out whether we could do anything with them, a tour or a couple of shows or something. It would have been good exposure for us. ‘Cause after that show, James had stardom. I’m talking about true stardom in his eyes. He wanted to do anything with anybody that had anything going. He figured he could beat ’em all. But the Stones’ fella told Ben, and we were all standing there so I heard him, that it would be bad business for his boys. He said he had to pull them together to get their confidence back, cause we had wrecked quite a bit of their thing.

    Giorgio Gomelsky [Yardbirds manager]: That was when the Mick Jagger we know began. After that second trip to America. When Mick got off the plane back in London, he was doing the James Brown slide…

  54. 54.

    MattF

    July 28, 2014 at 10:17 pm

    @Villago Delenda Est: Very funny. Also, if a urologist ever says to you “Now, take a deep breath,” something really unusual will happen next.

  55. 55.

    Ruckus

    July 28, 2014 at 10:18 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I think uppity is the word they would use for the lack of invite. Or maybe, “Doesn’t know his place.”

  56. 56.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 10:21 pm

    @Ruckus:

    I imagine “uppity” would be the kindest of their epithets.

  57. 57.

    SiubhanDuinne

    July 28, 2014 at 10:23 pm

    @lamh36:

    Awesome.

  58. 58.

    lamh36

    July 28, 2014 at 10:25 pm

    Someone posted this on my FB page a week ago. It reminds me of that PSA for Fatherhood with the dad practicing the cheer with his daughter.

    This dad did a whole choerographed routine. It’s too cute.

    Watch: Daddy-daughter dance off goes viral

  59. 59.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    July 28, 2014 at 10:27 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: McConnell and Boehner refused Obama’s calls on election night, 2012. IIRC it was in that same year that Fournier, Woodward, Brokaw et all put their blessed puddin’ heads together and decided the cause of gridlock was Obama’s lack of back-slappery.

    And Obama did host some actual White House cocktail parties early in the first term. Republicans whined because he actually watched the football game during a Superbowl Party.

  60. 60.

    KS in MA

    July 28, 2014 at 10:28 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    You took the words right out of my mouth.

  61. 61.

    Ruckus

    July 28, 2014 at 10:42 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:
    I meant the for public consumption sayings. They’ve mostly been very careful to not say everything when they are with outsiders or someone with a microphone.

  62. 62.

    lamh36

    July 28, 2014 at 10:49 pm

    OMG! So Sarah Palin announced her new “network” venture, but wait,totally forgot, Tina Fey’s portrayal of Sarah Palin on SNL included a skit on a “Sarah Palin Network”…lol!

    @TheLastWord 3m
    Here’s the full video of Tina Fey starting the Sarah Palin Network in that hilarious @nbcsnl skit! http://yhoo.it/X7bB3g

  63. 63.

    JoyfulA

    July 28, 2014 at 11:01 pm

    @lamh36: I saw James Brown in a small venue in early 1965 (or maybe late 1964), and he was an amazing performer. That man worked so hard—-

  64. 64.

    Suffern ACE

    July 28, 2014 at 11:26 pm

    I suppose it’s better than being called to a rally to see a candidate’s bus. But I’m not sure I’m ready for holographic candidate.

    That said, I am intrigued by the possibility of holographic constituents. Maybe instead of debates, senate candidates would have to show their aptitude for constituent services by running through a gamut of simulated 3D voters.

  65. 65.

    Roger Moore

    July 28, 2014 at 11:47 pm

    @Suffern ACE:

    I suppose it’s better than being called to a rally to see a candidate’s bus.

    But if you can’t see the candidate’s bus, how can you ever hope to be slapped under it?

  66. 66.

    James E. Powell

    July 29, 2014 at 12:07 am

    Open question in an open thread. Is this stuff going to end Michelle Nunn’s chances in Georgia?

  67. 67.

    ruemara

    July 29, 2014 at 12:20 am

    @James E. Powell: Why? By stating the obvious? Jesus.

  68. 68.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 29, 2014 at 12:23 am

    @Betty Cracker: She’s sucking up to the Israel forever, right or wrong even if they set up Vernichtungslagern for Palestinians vote.

  69. 69.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 29, 2014 at 12:24 am

    @ruemara: Exactly. To me, it seems like the strategy a Dem would have to follow to have a chance in GA.

  70. 70.

    Villago Delenda Est

    July 29, 2014 at 12:24 am

    @James E. Powell: I don’t see how, unless you’re some Villager dipshit trying to serve a nothingburger to other Villager dipshits. Like on the Gregory wankfest, for example.

  71. 71.

    James E. Powell

    July 29, 2014 at 12:39 am

    @Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name):

    I feel like people have gotten in trouble for stating the obvious before. What was it Obama said about guns?

    It’s a strategy for Georgia, but it isn’t exactly Blue Dog strategy. I just wondered how it would play down there.

  72. 72.

    Omnes Omnibus (the first of his name)

    July 29, 2014 at 12:41 am

    @James E. Powell: But this isn’t a statement she made. This is a draft of an internal document.

  73. 73.

    Suffern ACE

    July 29, 2014 at 12:44 am

    @Villago Delenda Est: I could see voters being confused by a swot analysis, and there are plenty of people who hate reading about things politicians do to manipulate them (even though they are being manipulated constantly). That said, the most important groups for her are the Democratic Party core voters. And I don’t see much in there to piss them off. If the document says something like “take money from the black churches, but never be caught on camera with their ministers” or “the Jews have money, but good luck getting any from those tight wads” I could see it being a huge problem.

  74. 74.

    Citizen_X

    July 29, 2014 at 12:45 am

    @WereBear: I sense a pattern here:
    “Tea Party” = Republicans.
    “Libertarians” = Republicans.
    And yes, “No Labels” = Republicans.

  75. 75.

    Ian

    July 29, 2014 at 12:50 am

    @some guy:
    I would certainly agree that here in the U.S. the only bipartisan goal is serving Israel, but you have to be pretty blindedly one sided not to think Hamas firing rockets out of schools and shelters doesn’t count as using human shields.

    It may be the only option the Palestinians have left, but lets not ignore the crimes against humanity of either participant in this war.

  76. 76.

    Joey Maloney

    July 29, 2014 at 6:40 am

    @Jay C: I actually sent away for a pair of X-Ray Specs. 9-year-old me was a little disappointed that I couldn’t actually see through the girls’ dresses at recess, but it got me interested in diffraction grating, optics and general, and the sciences. Diffraction grating is cool.

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