CNN, this time, Jake Tapper moderating. You’ve been warned. Livestream here.
Guardian liveblog here.
NEWS: @JebBush to huddle with @MarcoRubio, @TedCruz and @JohnKasich when they're in Miami for Thursday's GOP debate.
— Ed O'Keefe (@edatpost) March 9, 2016
@edatpost @JebBush @marcorubio @tedcruz @JohnKasich
Where I come from that's called a circle jerk!— Donald T. Trump (@reaDonaldTrump) March 9, 2016
The plan: Fly an experimental spaceplane, get bombarded by cosmic rays. https://t.co/dkeiuySZ9M
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) March 9, 2016
Baud
I never realized what small eyes Donald has.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Goes with his small fingers…
SiubhanDuinne
So much for the more serious, more Presidential Donald Trump.
Feebog
Another debate? I thought they had cut down on them. Seems like we have already had a couple dozen already.
Mai.naem.mobile
I watch these debates like I watch Project Runway or Top Chef. To see interesting stuff, but theres no way I would vote for any of them for president.
CaseyL
Another evening of not bothering to turn the TV on, but following the excitement via BJ comments and Twitter.
I’d watch the Canada thing, but the contrast would be too depressing.
Baud
Rubio supports free trade. He’s lost Kay’s vote.
BillinGlendaleCA
Marco really shouldn’t talk about trade with Colombia. Just saying.
Mai.naem.mobile
@Baud: I can’t figure out if Trumpster has high cholesterol eyes or if its the cut out from the mask used for tanning.
Jim, Foolish LIteralist
BillinGlendaleCA
So Failgunner Ted want’s to impose tariffs?
schrodinger's cat
Much presidential, such class. NOT.
Baud
@Mai.naem.mobile: How does he see through those things?
redshirt
Wait till potato chips are mandatory.
schrodinger's cat
What about the WTO? Won’t this start trade wars?
Baud
LOL. Like Croatia would take Kasich. They have standards
Aleta
@Mai.naem.mobile: It’s a makeup thing, intentional, supposed to sculpt the face.
schrodinger's cat
Much debate, such enlightenment.
Anne Laurie
@Mai.naem.mobile: Both, I suspect.
debbie
@Mai.naem.mobile:
Have you seen this Trump make-up tutorial (skip the ad)?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=xDgy37kPOZ4
Baud
400 hundred jobs?
schrodinger's cat
@Aleta: Make up? He looks sick, his face is always flushed.
Baud
Trump: Elect me to stop me.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
What a disappointment. No nasty fighting (yet?). ::pouts::
BillinGlendaleCA
Disney workers endorsed Trump? We need to talk to mnemo about that.
jl
Joining in late, just in time to listen to fake sensible moderate Kasich try to pass of 30 year old failed Reagan economic snake oil as new innovative economic thinking.
Bill E Pilgrim
@schrodinger’s cat:
@Mai.naem.mobile: It’s from the spray tan eye mask. He actually looks like a clown, I mean almost literally, in some photos.
Link.
Baud
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q):
Yeah, this is fairly reasonable so far. Phooey.
Aleta
The Disney workers endorsed him …
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Reminds me of the kid’s sister telling her not to smoke by wagging her cig at her.
Mai.naem.mobile
Margaret Trudeau looks pretty hawt for however old she is. Also too, Obama doesn’t talk like Trumpster. Not at all. He’s talking about leaving stuff better for our kids. Nothing about how rich he is or the size of his tool.
Anne Laurie
@BillinGlendaleCA:
That’s the advantage of local knowledge — Rubio’s pandering to the Floridians who make a nice living off Latin & South American trade and the people who engage in it, and there’s lots of them. Yeah, there will be jokes tomorrow about his druglord brother-in-law, but Trump’s already locked up the TookRJerbs! votes.
jl
Another chance for the incompetent moderators to call out GOPers on anti-factual nonsense. There are no millions of undocumented workers flooding the US.
Why is Rubio here? Is he still a candidate?
Edit: Actually evidence does not support Rubio’s contention on low sill jobs. If anything, higher skilled workers are crowding into lower skill labor market because the labor market has been so weak overall.
Edit2: though, thank God and FSM, the labor market seems to be improving for critical months before election when voters start making up their minds about which party to support.
redshirt
With just a couple of meetings we could take over this blog.
Mary G
Marco wouldn’t give his own parents a green card.
redshirt
@Anne Laurie: In South Florida I wonder if he’s locked up the yacht owning set in Palm Beach.
Warren Terra
The problem with parodying Trump, as with the @readonaldtrump account you quote, is that it just confuses the issue of how genuinely awful the real thing is.
schrodinger's cat
@Mai.naem.mobile:
Left handed compliment is left handed. Piece of advice, don’t ever say that to a woman to her face, your hawt for your age.
msdc
“Donald T. Trump” has got to be a fake account, right? Trump’s middle initial is J, and that twitter handle is one letter off from the real Trump’s.
Also, he’s far more humble and presidential than the real Donald Trump.
Aleta
@debbie: ha, that’s great.
Anne Laurie
Trump just spoiled the ‘secret’ of Carson’s planned endorsement. Any chance this tees Carson off enough to revoke instead?
jl
@debbie: Thanks. I’m taking a break from the debate to watch the Trump make up tutorial. Looks funny. I see cheetos are involved.
Bill Murray
I think calling a jerk circle rather than a circle jerk would be more Presidential. To be really cool (for 1983) he should have gone with Parade of the Horribles which was a Circle Jerks song
schrodinger's cat
@Bill E Pilgrim: He is the Joker.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Anne Laurie: Carson would have to wake up first.
Bill E Pilgrim
@jl:
We have to dispel with (sic) this fiction that Rubio knows that he’s losing.
Mai.naem.mobile
@debbie: that is hilarious
Aleta
I heard Trump charged his own sons interest on the loans they took out to attend Trump University.
Warren Terra
@Aleta:
on the other hand, Trump University falsely advertised that high-rolling customers would get to meet the Donald, so by your theory his sons were buying a chance not to meet him. Cheap at the price!
Baud
These questions are probably the most reasonable I’ve seen from moderators so far.
BillinGlendaleCA
OMG! Debt Crisis! Social Security going broke!
Mandalay
Marco’s gifts to the nation when he becomes president:
– tax cuts for billionaires
– increasing the retirement age to 70 for under 55s.
He’s crunched the numbers and decided that America has more billionaires than under 55s.
Rommie
Is RubioBot immune to the Third Rail?
Mai.naem.mobile
@schrodinger’s cat: I was trying to make the comment short but I wanted to add that Justin is 45 so I’m guessing Margarets got to be in her 70s and she looks like shes in her 50s.
jl
@debbie: Thanks. Tips for Trumping make-over is hilarious.
@BillinGlendaleCA: Who was that? Or was that the moderators? Sounds like it was the moderators.
PsiFighter37
I just finished exercising and I see no shouting or yelling. Is this what acceptance by the Establishment looks like?
redshirt
Have they asked a question about the lizard people from space who have taken over 65% of liberals?
Baud
Uh oh. Rubio admitted that foreign aid is only a small part of the budget.
dmsilev
@redshirt: I think Kodos underperformed in the debate last night.
jl
Who is putting on this debate? Moderators are assuming that social security and Medicare are going bankrupt? Ignorant and lazy, or corrupt, or both, journinalism?
Edit: OK, CNN debate.
Aleta
@Warren Terra: ha, they are clever boys aren’t they. Always a step ahead of him.
rikyrah
I really thought that they had cut the number of debates.
Anne Laurie
Trump just complained to Dana Bash, in Florida, that ‘the Democrats want to keep Social Security as it is — they want to expand it.’ Because all those retired seniors can’t wait to vote against Social Security! Are we sure he’s not a Democratic mole, after all?
BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: Marco and the moderators. The moderators asked about Social Security and Marco talked about Debt Crisis!.
Anne Laurie
@rikyrah: The RNC did cut the number of debates, from 20+ last cyle to 12. Unfortunately for RNC PR BS, twelve is at least nine too many this year!
Jim, Foolish LIteralist
@Anne Laurie: I hope this is one of their big ratings nights
Baud
Isn’t a 401(k) already like a 401(k)?
BillinGlendaleCA
Failgunner is arguing for private accounts? Did he miss 2008?
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Baud: WTF is the matter with them? I came to see a fight. And to drink a hot toddy in time to the fight. Assuming that it’s a scannable meter, of course.
Baud
“I know who they are.”
Old Dan and Little Anne
Where are the visuals!
Aleta
Cruz–“Here’s my theory: The less government, the less work I have to do.”
Baud
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Yeah, I might give up soon if someone doesn’t punch someone else in the nuts.
jl
Cruz, in between lies, mouths more 30 year old Reagan era slogans and tries to present it as new innovative thinking.
And CNN goes for an asinine gotcha. Cruz compares Trump to HRC!!!???? Yep, CNN vapid idiocy.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Maybe he should name them, heh.
Bill E Pilgrim
This is the weirdest Republican primary, one or the other of them take turns actually blowing the whistle on the standard Republican talking points, for example Rubio saying no, foreign aid is 1%, so harping on it like it’s bankrupting us is insane, or Trump saying invading Iraq was based on lies and a yuge mistake — but they each only have one, and they all contradict each other’s, plus of course their proposals about what to do about these things are completely insane.
Baud
@jl:
Yeah, that was weak.
Anne Laurie
@Mandalay:
Rubio’s looking forward to his rapidly approaching post-candidacy career: The billionaires will reward him, the common voters havent.
BillinGlendaleCA
Baud, you’re right, Trump does have small eyes.
jl
Cruz is such an oblivious smarmy dishonest self-satisfied ass, he would be good to run against.
Aleta
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): Every time you say hot toddy, I want one even more than the last time.
Felonius Monk
@Baud:
Assumes facts not in evidence.
MomSense
@debbie:
So good.
BillinGlendaleCA
Kasich sounds like he was talking about a “lockbox”.
PsiFighter37
I really despise the generic ‘fraud and abuse’ throwaway lines. Fucking itemize what it is! Otherwise it’s an empty applause line that means jack.shit, especially when it comes to using it to pay for something else.
oldgold
There Kasich goes again claiming he was President in 1999, rather than 1/435th of the House.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Aleta: Sorry about that; I’ll stop. It’s folk medicinal, since we’re both coming off colds.
jl
@PsiFighter37:
” empty applause line that means jack.shit, ”
Everything I’ve heard so far is an empty applause line that means jack shit, But I admit that I tuned in a little late.
Mai.naem.mobile
Jeezus, did Reince put some mild tranquilizers in these idiots’ water? This is boring. I thought we were going to have duels at the very least.
Mandalay
Comrade Kasich tells Marco we don’t need to raise the retirement age – we can means test Social Security payments instead.
Not much wild applause for that one.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Mai.naem.mobile: I think he did, that bastard. I am disappoint. ::continues to pout::
phantomist
I cut my own hair. It looks exactly like the Governor of Ohio’s.
Baud
Smoot Hawley!!!
Anne Laurie
@BillinGlendaleCA: Trump, it will be proclaimed tomorrow, is ‘pivoting towards the general’ by speaking semi-sensibly about voters outside the Repub base. Cruz is going big for the Spite Voters at the heart of that base.
Meanwhile, Rubio is soliciting for his next job as a lobbyist. And Kasich is saying nasty things to all those not-good-centrist people who made fun of his recycled Reaganisms when they weren’t ignoring him, during what will almost certainly be his last hurrah.
jl
@Mai.naem.mobile: Trump announced he would tone it down for this debate. He has said he realized he can’t act like a mean drunk circus clown for the general, and I suppose he views himself as the presumptive nominee and therefore it is time to move towards presidential civility and gravitas.
BillinGlendaleCA
How would Failgunner’s tariff not result in reciprocal tariffs against us?
Jim, Foolish LIteralist
You can all catch this video of Elizabeth Warren eviscerating/destroying/disemboweling Mitch McConnell and his Supreme Asshole Caucus later. It’ll be on Rachel Maddow website, I’m sure.
has anyone asked Drumpft about his rallies?
jl
@Mandalay: The Establishment GOPers can talk about cutting and gutting Social Security and Medicare all they want. Make for some good attack ads for the general, if any of them get the nomination.
raven
I think Trump is a bit wary after this shit in Fayettenam. He was ok with the sucker punch but when the dude is on film saying “next time we may have to kill him” Mr Badass may have to chill for a while.
Baud
@Jim, Foolish LIteralist:
Yes. I caught pieces of it. It was great. Can’t wait for her convention speech.
redshirt
So has Trumpen gravitas come through?
Aleta
@a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q): I can handle it ! Just longing; cold rainy snow here.
Baud
There are two Donald Trumps.
jl
There are some shreds of truth to what Trump says on trade. I can see why he will be a dangerous candidate if he is allowed to emphasize trade and jobs.
Cruz may be a brilliant debater, but he seems to know nothing about the real world, and his habit of coughing up nothing but standard reactionary GOP bromides rivals Rubio’s act.
Renie
wow this debate is actually boring. someone must have given trump a couple of downers
Bill E Pilgrim
@Anne Laurie: Exactly. The danger being of course that the base voters who have gotten Trump to this point want precisely the opposite, so the energy might drain out.
It’s like Rubio thinking that everyone wanted him to get down in the gutter with Trump, and then when he did he realized that the only thing anyone at all liked about him was the boyish boy scout oh he’s just like my grandson thing, and now even that was gone.
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Yup. Like saying “You’re pretty smart for a girl” or “For a black person, you speak very well.” Pompous and patronizing.
Aleta
@jl: He’s reminding me of a boa constrictor who’s too stuffed on steaks to bother springing onto the beady rodent to his left.
gene108
Fixed the futon frame in my living room. One of the arms was falling apart. Had to hammer part of it together, but foolishly forgot to put a towel or something over the surface, so if you look closely you can see where I was banging away.
But damn…feel good to not need new furniture…
EDIT: Oh yeah..the debate.. the Republicans are scary, vile nativists, who want to destroy whatever hope the working stiff has at a decent retirement…
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: That’s a depressing thought, one is too many.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: Add “did you kill anybody” to a vet.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: I was channeling Ben Carson.
Mary G
This is dull. I wondered when they would figure out that giving any other candidate mentioned in your answer 30 seconds to respond just meant giving the other guy more time to talk, so it’s better not to mention them. Ben Carson asking for attack in the last debate might have clued them in. But the me, me, me is deadly boring.
BillinGlendaleCA
Why does Amir hate us?
PsiFighter37
Trump just goes and insults all of Trump and gets laugh and applause. Jesus.
Felonius Monk
@Baud:
OMG, No. The planet is not big enough.
jl
Oh boy, we’ll find out whether BC’s post was really satire or not.
Baud
@raven:
Or to Jim Webb.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: You’re asleep?
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: And performing brain surgery.
PsiFighter37
Rubio definitely jammed the hall with his supporters. Hope he enjoys his last stand.
Baud
There is tremendous hate.
schrodinger's cat
@Mai.naem.mobile: No worries. I guess I was just being a bit cranky.
Jim, Foolish LIteralist
@Baud: or Barbara Mikulski
Mandalay
@jl:
Right. But Trump surely has it in the bag now, and he has promised that he wouldn’t touch retirement benefits.
For all his alleged charisma and marketing skills, the real reason Trump is strolling to victory is that he is not bound to all the absurd GOP tenets that his rivals must blindly follow.
BillinGlendaleCA
@PsiFighter37: It’s from Fla, he brought his family. They might vote for him.
jl
Rubio can get off good responses when he wants too.
Problem is that Rubio’s move towards sanity is wasted on a lot of this audience.
raven
A reaproachmont!
Aleta
@Baud: Eventually one will knock the other out for the count.
Bill E Pilgrim
Oh boy. Don’t bring the French if you can’t handle it.
Of course he also just lost any remaining Republican votes by even trying.
Baud
I don’t like it when Rubio is the reasonable won.
jl
Everything is simple with Trump. Laws don’t let you commit war crimes ‘Expand the laws’! Simple.
Baud
Thanks, Rubio. That was close.
BillinGlendaleCA
Gitmo now, Gitmo forever!
jl
@Baud:
” I don’t like it when Rubio is the reasonable won. ”
‘Won’ in same sentence with ‘Rubio’, I smell a typo.
And you need to put yourself in the place of the typical GOP primary voter, and from that viewpoint, Rubio is not reasonable at all.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Baud: I don’t like it when any of those motherfuckers is the reasonable one. It’s not entertaining. ::Continues to pout. And to drink::
Peale
@Baud: the reasonable won? Are they talking forex trades?
Baud
Some of my best friends are Jewish.
Eric S.
@Baud: It would have to be a very accurately placed blow.
jl
Cruz is such a contemptible ass, I’d like listening to his inconsistent incoherent smarmy pitches except he’ll probably lose the nomination, and all his total and miserable fail won’t be available for the general election.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I hear they’re very tough people.
Keith P.
I want to see a Jewish moderator ask Donald Trump when was the last time he has loathed himself.
Peale
@jl: hey. He’s the thinking man’s candidate. Or so he thought he was saying.
Bill E Pilgrim
I can’t take anymore, I think I’ll re-approach sleep…
Mandalay
Deluded Cruz is bragging he would “rip up the deal with Iran” as though it mattered.
The train is leaving. President Cruz could stay on or jump off, but he couldn’t derail the train.
Felonius Monk
I’m going to put on my hip boots. These guys are spreading so much bullshit that I feel I’m being suffocated.
Please, God/FSM, lightning bolts now.
Dream On
Trump speaks the language of annihilation, both he and Cruz. Honestly makes me want to cry hearing this. I promise you that the most unbalanced in our society are hearing this loud and clear… bad year ahead.
quick sample:
1. CLASSIFICATION: All cultures have categories to distinguish people into “us and them” by ethnicity, race, religion, or nationality: German and Jew, Hutu and Tutsi. Bipolar societies that lack mixed categories, such as Rwanda and Burundi, are the most likely to have genocide. […]
3. DEHUMANIZATION: One group denies the humanity of the other group. Members of it are equated with animals, vermin, insects or diseases. Dehumanization overcomes the normal human revulsion against murder. At this stage, hate propaganda in print and on hate radios is used to vilify the victim group.
Baud
Cruz’s overacting is hilarious.
jl
Is the self-appointed enforcer of reactionary thug loon life Hewitt moderating this sick dog of a debate again?
Baud
Kasich is cray-cray on foreign policy.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@Baud: That’s about the only thing that is. Please fix.
Baud2016!
Barbara
@Mai.naem.mobile: Actually, she was very young when she got married, and started having kids immediately. I think Justin is the oldest, so she is probably more like 65. If you are over 50, you might just barely remember how shocked people were when it was learned that Pierre Trudeau got married more or less secretly and the bride was only just out of her teens.
Betty Cracker
Christ. Kasich cites service w/ Rummy at the Pentagon after 9/11 as a foreign policy credential.
Keith P.
Is it just me, or does Jake Tapper have Megan Kelly’s hairdo tonight?
Baud
I hate praising Tapper, but he’s asking decent questions.
Aleta
In their debates, have the R’s been asked about mandatory sentences, prisons ?
Baud
@Aleta:
Not tonight.
BillinGlendaleCA
Slow pitch to Marco and Ted. Cuba.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Dana Bash, on the other hand.
dr. bloor
@Baud: That’s probably the most aggravating aspect of Tapper. When he feels like making the effort, he’s actually quite competent.
PsiFighter37
The Cuba stuff is so passe. Only the old-timer Cubans in Miami will think this is a good stand. Everyone else will think it’s a joke.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: Yep. She is awful.
Baud
Donald supports Cuban tort reform.
Keith P.
Haha, Bash asks Trump, “Just to clarify, would you continue relations with Cuba or not?” Trump: “I would want a good deal.” Crowd: “-laughter-“
Aleta
Cruz could care less about foreign policy. He can’t think past gutting the US.
Mnemosyne
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Sorry, no clue what that’s about. With this many employees, though, there are always a few idiots.
redshirt
@Baud: Mmm, Cuban torts.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: Or The Donald is talking out of his ass.
Baud
@redshirt: Thanks, Obama.
gene108
How can people live with this level of paranoia that Cruz has that he thinks Iranians want to murder us all…
That kind of paranoia should be considered a mental illness.
Gin & Tonic
@SiubhanDuinne: Like saying “You’re pretty smart for a girl”
I say that to my wife from time to time. It never gets the laugh I think it should.
BillinGlendaleCA
Three years is one of the longest negotiations Trump has ever seen, guess he didn’t know about the negotiations over the Ambassador Hotel between the LA school board and Trump.
wenchacha
Kasich, omg.
jl
I get angry with HRC when she occasionally resorts to cheesy debating tricks. But she only does that only occasionally these days, and if it doesn’t work she can come back with a respectable response.
But cheesy debating tricks are Cruz’ whole world. I think Cruz is just a walking collection of dishonest cheesy debating tricks. Trump just stomped all over Cruz on his cheesy tricks, and I’m not sure Cruz even understood it.
Keith P.
@BillinGlendaleCA: It took him 7 years to close the deal with his current wife.
Baud
If you asked me which candidate would be most likely to start WWIII, I would not have chosen Kasich.
I would have been wrong.
Baud
@jl: This exactly.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Keith P.: He didn’t close the deal with LAUSD.
Baud
Rubio with the climate denialism!
Mandalay
Grandpa Kasich claims that “our friends around the world” are baffled by our warming relationship with Cuba.
Possibly the biggest lie in this debate, which has been full of lies.
Baud
“I’d like my central Florida home to be beach front property.”
SiubhanDuinne
Oh, just fuck Rubio. I hope he drowns in the next Miami flood. Jeesus.
debbie
@Mandalay:
Are you sure it’s a train and not the bus Kasich says will run you over if you’re not on board with his agenda?
Baud
Ohio reduces emissions when Kasich leaves to campaign for president. Hmmm.
Keith P.
@Mandalay: He’s definitely been working with a drama coach in attempts to enhance his likeability. He inserts these weird moments where he goes from regular serious-Kasich to jovial-Kasich-next-door that is somewhat jarring, like a valley of uncanniness.
SiubhanDuinne
@Gin & Tonic:
Clearly your wife has no sense of humor.
Just like a woman.
Baud
Haha. A Jimmy Carter reference. An oldie but goodie. But five points from Cruz for not saying “History’s Greatest Monster.”
Aleta
I think I’ll feel better if I take the dog out in the pouring rain now.
redshirt
That Trump is not an electoral joke is a joke of epic proportions.
Gin & Tonic
@SiubhanDuinne: I know, right?
Aleta
OK I would love us to build that statue.
Baud
I’d build a wall between the U.S. and China and make China pay for it.
jl
Trump is smarter than the other GOPers and probably the moderators. And a bit quicker on is feet. That is not saying much, it is saying very little, but it is enough, along with fact that Trump is not bound by idiotic CW political conventions, for Trump to dominate these debates. Edit: meaning he was good at stomping all over Tapper’s lame attempt to manufacture a win-the-morning gotcha question on Trumps favorable comments on Russian and Chinese authoritarianism.
Too bad he chickened out of the debate with Sanders. It will be interesting to see how he does against one the Dems in front of a sane audience.
Mandalay
Tapper weirdly claimed that Trump was approving of Putin by calling him a strong leader.
So Trump used Tapper to mop the floor.
Omnes Omnibus
@Gin & Tonic: Does she break just like a little girl?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Would it be a Great Wall?
FlipYrWhig
@Mandalay: “Our friends around the world” usually means “the Likudniks.” Not sure if that applies in this case though.
schrodinger's cat
@SiubhanDuinne: I have another one, You don’t speak like Appu. Gee thanks!
Anne Laurie
@Keith P.: So, Kasich’s resigned to hoping to be the Spiro Agnew to Trump/Cruz’s Dick Nixon?
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: I was thinking more of a Huge Wall.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I’m sure it would be very CLASSY!
Baud
Where has Suzanne been? The architect ad reminded me of her.
BillinGlendaleCA
Good question about violence at Trump rallies from Tapper.
SiubhanDuinne
WOW! They’re finally confronting Trump about the violence at his rallies.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: I thought of her too when I saw that ad.
Omnes Omnibus
@Baud: I think she has some real life issues to deal with.
jl
@FlipYrWhig:
“Our friends around the world” according to GOP are countries who say ‘How high’ when the US commands ‘jump’. Too bad it is an imaginary world.
So much sickening raving lunacy in the last segment of the debate.
Baud
@Omnes Omnibus: Thanks. Hope she is OK.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
She and her family have been travelling in France, Italy, and Greece. Not sure when they get back.
schrodinger's cat
@Baud: Italy, she is on vacation. Flights to Europe and Asia are really cheap right now because of the strong dollar.
jl
Gravitas test coming up for Trump.
Edit: I guess Trump thinks lying about his rallies being invaded by violent liberal thugs will help with the gravitas and civility thing.
James E Powell
@Anne Laurie:
Isn’t he the current – and likely the last – corporate press/media anti-Trump darling? He’s planning on a big win in Ohio that will stun everyone and cause massive shifts in support
schrodinger's cat
@Omnes Omnibus: Some of Bob Dylan’s stuff is just mean.
Baud
@SiubhanDuinne:
@schrodinger’s cat:
Oh, excellent. But they have in Internet in Europe. I’m going to give her a stern talking to when she gets back.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
AFAIK she’s fine. She’s been posting some wonderful photos from Paris, Rome, and Athens on FB. Seems to be taking in every iconic architectural structure.
TheBuhJaysus
Cruz just compared Obama to an emperor.
Fuck off!!!
BillinGlendaleCA
@schrodinger’s cat: Trump will take care of that.
schrodinger's cat
@Baud: She has better things to do than check back with the lumpen proletariat here.
jl
I like it when the GOP debates get so stupid, I cannot imagine general election voters not laughing.out loud. We are in one of those episodes now.
Baud
“I’m so much better than Hitler. A disgrace. “
Baud
@schrodinger’s cat: She’s either with us or against us.
SiubhanDuinne
@Baud:
I think she’s actually posted a few comments since she’s been in Europe. But it’s like 4:30 in the morning where she is. I’d cut her a little time-zone slack.
BillinGlendaleCA
OT: Got email that my camera has been converted to full spectrum and should be back in a few days, I’m jazzed!
jl
@Baud: Hitler was not terrific, not a top person, not a great person at all. Trump explained that a while ago.
debbie
@Baud:
Be careful. I think she could snap you like a twig.
BillinGlendaleCA
Ronald Reagan, DRINK!
jl
My grandma was born just as them flying planes were getting off the ground, and I sat with her one evening as we watched a clip of the moon landing, and my grandma said “What a bunch of damn foolishness. Why do those fools want to go up to that dump anyway? What’s the point of it? I can’t figure it out. World going to damn fool hell is what.” That’s what my grandma said.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Yeah, unless it’s Jim Webb. He’ll volunteer the information.
jl
The 51 percentile of total votes in a majority vote electoral system is a random number?
Baud
@jl: All numbers are random in the Republican world.
Mai.naem.mobile
@Barbara: I looked her up on wikipedia.and,yeah, you’re right – shes 67. I’m too young for the early Trudeau stuff. For some reason I thought Justin was the middle kid. Justin’s own family looks like a frickin’ Ralph Lauren ad.
Baud
“My wife told me a story.”
Does any fool believe that?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: No, you’re wrong; they’re irrational.
Baud
@BillinGlendaleCA: I wish they were imaginary.
jl
I’m out, this GOP debate has entered the terminal unbearably stupid phase.
I better get out before the humorous fun folksy personality questions start, since they make me gag.
Oh, but nice that Trump won’t promise to self-fund for the general.
cmorenc
@Baud:
China already *did* build a wall between the U.S. and China to prevent us from entering China from the North and West…not only that, but they had the brilliant foresight to know we were going to be a great threat in the future and build it centuries before the US even existed, rather than waiting until waaay too late like Trump’s proposed wall with Mexico. China is even getting us to pay for it via the huge trade imbalance in their favor with the US (or so the Donald might say).
Ken
@Mandalay:
No, that’s true, just not in the way he meant it. They’re wondering what took us so long. Also why we bothered with the embargo, since no one else followed along.
Now that I think about it, about the same questions raised when the Republicans talk about tearing up the Iran deal. OK, but all it means is that U.S. firms won’t be selling to Iran – the Europeans, Russians, and Chinese will.
gene108
@Omnes Omnibus:
Thought she had plans to go on vacation, so she might be traveling.
Mandalay
Accepting that he is an pompous asshole who is full of shit, Kasich has achieved ten times more in politics that the other three candidates combined. Rubio’s resume is paper thin, Cruz’s achievements amount to a brown stain on a Kleenex, and Trump has never even been a politician.
gene108
I have a great question for the Republican debates: Other than Ronald Reagan, name another Republican President, since the end of WW2, who you admire and why.
Anne Laurie
@James E Powell:
He’s been ‘uncharacteristically’ cranky tonight (of course Kay would tell us he’s always cranky but he’s been better at hiding it during the on-camera national debates). I think he’s given up on winning the nom, but figures he can still be The Adult VP — Biden to the Trump/Cruz… president. (Some comparisons I just cannot bear to put in pixels.)
Of course I don’t see either Trump or Cruz paying Kasich any attention, tonight or any other time, but we all need our fantasies to get through the day.
Baud
The canned nature of Cruz’s rhetoric takes a while to get a handle on, but it’s definitely not natural.
Mandalay
Cruz: “…Stand with our firefighters!”
WTF?
oldgold
Trump crushed that debate. Huuge win.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mai.naem.mobile:
My FB feed is full of fanfic shippers who are all “Trubama.” Personally, I prefer “Odeau.”
SiubhanDuinne
@oldgold:
Wait, you’re naming yourself after a cigarette now?
SiubhanDuinne
@schrodinger’s cat:
Forgive me, but that is a reference I don’t recognize. Can you explain “Appu” please?
(Google tells me it’s a movie, but I still don’t get it.)
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
I think she means Apu from “The Simpsons.”
Also, I have to make you sad again — it will not work out for the hero of my book to be Canadian. He’s going to have to be American after all. I didn’t realize that the British blocked all refugees from the French Revolution from entering Canada.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
I didn’t either. Although I should have, given the ill feeling between the two countries.
Appu is an Indian film, which leads me to think the kitteh was referring to it. But I may be one of the few people on the planet who has never watched The Simpsons, so whichever it is I’m equally ignorant.
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
Great Britain took in a huge number of refugees, but apparently the authorities in Canada were nervous about the ongoing border tensions with the United States combining with revolutionary fervor from France. They allowed some priests in, but no families, so my characters are probably going to Philadelphia instead.
pseudonymous in nc
@Mandalay:
No, they’re worried that the cost of having a holiday there will go up once the Americans show up, and that Floridian car dealers will buy up all the ’57 Cadillacs and Chevys on the cheap.
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
Also, too, after reading about the tragic life of Charlotte Stuart, Duchess of Albany, I understand the anti-clericalism of the French Revolution a lot better. Apparently a nun having a long-term affair with a bishop and having three children with him was just one of those things that people expected bishops to do.
ETA: Not just a bishop — an archbishop, one step below a cardinal.
ETA2: Sorry, she was not a nun, she just grew up living in convents since there weren’t many other options for women in those days.