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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Thursday Afternoon Open Thread (Updated)

Thursday Afternoon Open Thread (Updated)

by Betty Cracker|  June 16, 20161:02 pm| 231 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, General Stupidity

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As part of my occasional series urging readers to keep Thor in Thursday, here’s an image not of the hammer-wielding god of Norse mythology himself but rather an “everyday Thor,” in this case, Taylor Motter, a utility player called up from the Durham Bulls to play for the Tampa Bay Rays last month:

motter

Open thread!

Oh, and here’s one for the chutzpah file: Valued commenter Corner Stone’s favorite MSNBC analyst Hugh Hewitt is spinning Lil’ Marco’s slo-mo renege on his promise not to run for reelection as a dutiful embrace of service:

.@marcorubio, deeply impacted by shooting, tells me he has to rethink all his plans, talk with his family, consider his service…

— Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt) June 13, 2016

When someone mildly points out that maybe the people of Florida aren’t clamoring for Rubio’s return, Hewitt polishes the Rubioid turd to an even higher gloss, invoking wartime service:

It isn't about that Jimmy. It is about service in wartime, and he recognizes it is a war https://t.co/1fmbCKfka0

— Hugh Hewitt (@hughhewitt) June 13, 2016

Jeebus Chicken-Fried Christ, the balls on these people! Isn’t Hewitt the asshole who claimed that babbling wingnut talking points into a radio mic from the Empire State Building after 9/11 constituted working in a war zone, or was that another conservative valor thief?

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231Comments

  1. 1.

    Susan K of the tech support

    June 16, 2016 at 1:05 pm

    Great video of an 8th grader giving a speech at graduation and imitating Trump, Cruz, Obama, Clinton and Sanders.

    With so much that’s bad about the election, this brings joy.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0khR11eRvfQ

  2. 2.

    piratedan

    June 16, 2016 at 1:06 pm

    so the Thor mane is the rehabilitated mullet?

  3. 3.

    schrodinger's cat

    June 16, 2016 at 1:07 pm

    Viking Kitteh approves!

  4. 4.

    Downpuppy

    June 16, 2016 at 1:08 pm

    There can be only one! Noah Seth Syndergaard IS Thor.

  5. 5.

    Mike J

    June 16, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    Keep the Devil in Devil Rays!

  6. 6.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    For those that may be interested, the SPLC issued a report on Monday about the far-right constitutional Sheriffs. (Which of course discusses the Bundy bunch and the Malheur takeover). https://www.splcenter.org/fighting-hate/intelligence-report/2016/line-sand

  7. 7.

    Miss Bianca

    June 16, 2016 at 1:10 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: I would just like to note, for the record, that I have a kitten asleep on my lap as I type. Life is good.

  8. 8.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 1:11 pm

    Why are my comments in moderation?

  9. 9.

    piratedan

    June 16, 2016 at 1:13 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I’ve always found that action almost always makes me nap as well, as if its a symbiotic reaction

  10. 10.

    Yutsano

    June 16, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    @Mike J: They should have done what Arizona State did when the Christianists wanted Sparky changed; politely told them to go to Hades and enjoy the weather while they’re at it.

    Actually, now that I think about it, the Sun Devils weren’t that polite…

  11. 11.

    MrSnrub

    June 16, 2016 at 1:14 pm

    We saw the Bulls on Sunday, beating the Iron Pigs pretty handily. Bulls even had a grand slam in the first inning. It all went downhill from there.

  12. 12.

    Joel

    June 16, 2016 at 1:15 pm

    Thor is Syndergaard, I thought?

    I wonder, does Dickey for Syndergaard and Arnaud count as the Bagwell for Anderson of this generation?

  13. 13.

    raven

    June 16, 2016 at 1:16 pm

    @Yutsano: Like when they chanted “PLO- PLO” at Steve Kerr?

  14. 14.

    Keith P.

    June 16, 2016 at 1:17 pm

    Looks more like a Jax than a Thor.

  15. 15.

    p.a.

    June 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    @Mike J: Do the Rays have a Steve Irwin patch on the shoulder? It’s never too soon for bad, very bad, bad taste.

  16. 16.

    Cacti

    June 16, 2016 at 1:18 pm

    Speaking of baseball.

    While I’ve never cared for Pete Rose, I can understand why he’s feeling a bit salty over MLB trying to ghost his all-time hits record in favor Ichiro (MLB + Nippon League).

  17. 17.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    June 16, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    @ Morning_Joe
    [email protected] Sen_JoeManchin: Due process is what’s killing us right now

    Manchin proposes a five year probationary period for persons ‘under suspicion’ to prove their ‘good behavior’.

  18. 18.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 1:20 pm

    @srv: I reject! I’m nothing but civil. Usually, most of the time…sometimes.

  19. 19.

    Susan K of the tech support

    June 16, 2016 at 1:22 pm

    @LAO: I have a comment in moderation, too. Is a link to hilarious YouTube movie. Did your comment have links?

  20. 20.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    That ain’t Thor.

    I’m cautiously optimistic about the Red Sox. Their pitching is not great, both starting and relief, but the offense can be overpowering. They play great defense and run the bases well too.

    I just don’t know if they can outlast Baltimore or Toronto. Regardless and most importantly, they’re a young, fun team and a joy to root for. Bogaerts and Betts and maybe Bradley are shaping up to be long time all stars.

  21. 21.

    Calouste

    June 16, 2016 at 1:23 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: I think the fact that every idiot can buy a gun is what is killing people, not due process to exclude a tiny percentage of those idiots.

  22. 22.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 1:24 pm

    @Cacti: Yeah, MLB can spin it like they want but Ichiro will never beat Rose’s record. No way are Japanese stats counting in the MLB.

  23. 23.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support: It did! to a SPLC report on constitutional sheriffs and the Bundy bunch. I’m sensing a pattern.

  24. 24.

    SRW1

    June 16, 2016 at 1:26 pm

    It isn’t about that Jimmy. It is about service in wartime, and he recognizes it is a war

    Oh, so Rubio is gonna enlist?

  25. 25.

    Tractarian

    June 16, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    Yeah, no. There’s room for only one Thor in baseball. And it’s this one.

  26. 26.

    Cacti

    June 16, 2016 at 1:28 pm

    @redshirt:

    Yeah, MLB can spin it like they want but Ichiro will never beat Rose’s record. No way are Japanese stats counting in the MLB.

    If the new metric is all professional hits count, shouldn’t everyone add their A through AAA stats to their tallies too?

  27. 27.

    Susan K of the tech support

    June 16, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @LAO: and mine was freed.

    That feeling when you are the first to post a comment in a popular open thread, and it gets caught in moderation. LOL

    Trying to bring the funny, peeps. But the tech just gets in the way!

  28. 28.

    Betty Cracker

    June 16, 2016 at 1:30 pm

    @SRW1: Can you imagine if a Democrat had said such a thing?

  29. 29.

    J.

    June 16, 2016 at 1:33 pm

    AHEM, Rays fan. There is only ONE THOR, and he pitches for the New York Mets .

  30. 30.

    Ella in New Mexico

    June 16, 2016 at 1:36 pm

    A little off track, but did anyone else hear the speech in which Trump told the Republican leadership to “”Be quiet. Just please be quiet. Don’t talk, please be quiet,”

    Did it give you the creeps like it did me? As in “rapey things a man says to a woman he has no respect for and just wants to fuck” creepy?

    Uggghhh.

  31. 31.

    J.

    June 16, 2016 at 1:37 pm

    Glad to know I am not the only Mets fan here. (Didn’t read all the comments before I posted mine.)

  32. 32.

    Mary G

    June 16, 2016 at 1:38 pm

    I used to love baseball – I wanted to grow up to play for the Dodgers and/or marry Sandy Koufax and was very upset with my father when he told me girls weren’t allowed to play baseball or be an acolyte in church. (I had no interest in serving, but they got to go to a Dodger game.)

    But since the godawful McCourts bought the team and let thugs beat up a Giants fan in the parking lot, and now I can’t watch games without paying, I just don’t care anymore. Sad!

    I did end up getting to go to the game when one of the boys got sick. Sandy was pitching and it was a pitcher’s duel with the score 1-0. The boys were bored to death, but I was thrilled.

  33. 33.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    @J.: You are not alone. We are legion.

  34. 34.

    Jim Kakalios

    June 16, 2016 at 1:39 pm

    It was indeed Hugh Hewitt who defended his wartime bravery by pointing out that he was broadcasting from the Empire State Building. He was arguing with a Time Baghdad reporter at the time.

    http://blogoland.blogspot.com/2006/03/hugh-hewitt-terror-warrior.html

  35. 35.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 1:40 pm

    @Cacti: Indeed. And what about summer ball, the olympics, batting cage practice, etc….

    I love Ichiro – one of my faves ever – but no way.

  36. 36.

    dr. bloor

    June 16, 2016 at 1:42 pm

    @Mary G: I assume your father didn’t even bother addressing the fact that you wanted to marry a Jewish guy.

  37. 37.

    Miss Bianca

    June 16, 2016 at 1:43 pm

    @piratedan: THere’s just no way to avoid the double entendres, evidently….that’s it, I’m sending photos to Anne Laurie. ACTUAL KITTEN photos.

  38. 38.

    Dolly Llama

    June 16, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    @raven: yo, Dawg. I don’t know about you, but Vince Dooley is dead to me now.

  39. 39.

    The Other Chuck

    June 16, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico: Perhaps Trump was merely relaying what the RNC tells him at least half a dozen times a day?

    I’m still thinking they’re going to make Kasich the sacrificial lamb at the convention. Betcha security is going to be thick as flies there.

  40. 40.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    A little off track, but did anyone else hear the speech in which Trump told the Republican leadership to “”Be quiet. Just please be quiet. Don’t talk, please be quiet,”

    The man simply can not pass up any opportunity to say something damaging. It’s awesome.
    I loved the way Paul Ryan just shrugged his shoulders and tried to laugh it off when asked about it this AM.

  41. 41.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    @shomi: It seems clear Republicans believe in magic words and if you don’t say them the spell won’t work. If you do, you’re golden.

  42. 42.

    Mary G

    June 16, 2016 at 1:44 pm

    Forgot to add:

    Jeebus Chicken-Fried Christ

    is my new phrase, replacing Jesus H. Roosevelt Christ from Outlander.

  43. 43.

    Betty Cracker

    June 16, 2016 at 1:45 pm

    @Mary G: Any minor league teams in your area? It’s a great alternative. Cheaper, closer to the action, they don’t charge $8 for a domestic beer, etc.

  44. 44.

    Miss Bianca

    June 16, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    @Mary G: Yup. Me too. In fact, “chicken-fried” is likely to become my new modifier for just about everything.

  45. 45.

    Mary G

    June 16, 2016 at 1:46 pm

    @dr. bloor: Naw, he was a Jesuit priest priest before he met my mom, so he understood passion.

  46. 46.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 1:48 pm

    @Betty Cracker: I may get booed for this, but I love all the cheesy stunts minor league teams do to entertain the fans. My local AA team – the Portland Sea Dogs – have a giant pig who runs the bases in the 7th inning in a Sea Dogs jersey. Not sure what the point is exactly, but everyone cheers for the pig.

    I also LOVE the wave. And beach balls in the bleachers.

  47. 47.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 16, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    @SRW1: Fuuuuuck no. He’s way too important sitting in his Miami apartment twittering to support the war effort.

    And you’re correct, Betty. Hewitt is the jackass who claimed posting on the ‘tubes from his office in the Empire State Building was the same as patrolling Falluja.

  48. 48.

    MomSense

    June 16, 2016 at 1:50 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support:

    Joy!!! Wonderful.

  49. 49.

    dr. bloor

    June 16, 2016 at 1:52 pm

    @Mary G: Jewish pitchers, Jewish carpenters, I suppose it’s all the same.

  50. 50.

    Villago Delenda Est

    June 16, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    @redshirt: MLB wants to stick it to Rose, who is basically unrepentant about his offenses.

  51. 51.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 1:53 pm

    @Ella in New Mexico:

    but did anyone else hear the speech in which Trump told the Republican leadership to “”Be quiet. Just please be quiet. Don’t talk, please be quiet,”

    Trump told them to talk less, smile more.

  52. 52.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    Not sure whether to order chicken-fried steak or steak-fried chicken. The waiter is approaching. I’ll just get a slice of apple pie and some coffee.

  53. 53.

    Betty Cracker

    June 16, 2016 at 1:55 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support: Man, that kid is GOOD.

  54. 54.

    Mike J

    June 16, 2016 at 1:57 pm

    @Cacti: The Ichi-roll is the best food available at a major league park.

  55. 55.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 16, 2016 at 1:58 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: That “Immigrant Song” cat video was adorbs!

    On a sad note, a Progressive UK Lawmaker was assassinated by a “Britain First” supporter. Thankfully, the UK doesn’t have our lax pro-gun laws so only one person is dead.

    http://crooksandliars.com/2016/06/progressive-uk-lawmaker-assassinated-man

  56. 56.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 16, 2016 at 1:59 pm

    My comment is waiting moderation. Thanks Betty.

  57. 57.

    Cacti

    June 16, 2016 at 2:03 pm

    @Mike J:

    I’ll have to try it at my next M’s game. Who sells it?

  58. 58.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 16, 2016 at 2:04 pm

    @germy: You mean cherry pie.

  59. 59.

    starscream

    June 16, 2016 at 2:05 pm

    How safe is Paul Ryan’s seat?

  60. 60.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: “… as American as cherry pie.”

  61. 61.

    Schlemazel Khan

    June 16, 2016 at 2:07 pm

    @Mary G:
    Look for some minor league teams near you. As part of our anniversary celebration we are going to Davenport to watch the Cedar Rapids Kernels play the Davenport River Bandits. We make a pilgrimage to a minor league park every summer now. The games are a lot more fun than MLB with no ear-splitting BS between innings and a crowd that is more interested in baseball than all that other stuff.

    @Betty Cracker: was in first and with 2 great points, cheap tickets and cheap concessions. Add to that great views, much better than at MLB parks

  62. 62.

    Mnemosyne

    June 16, 2016 at 2:09 pm

    @starscream:

    In a normal year, I would say “pretty safe.” This year? I say we go for it.

  63. 63.

    Mike J

    June 16, 2016 at 2:13 pm

    Britain First threatens to target London Mayor Sadiq Khan with ‘direct action’
    The group say they consider all Muslim elected officials ‘occupiers’

  64. 64.

    EBT

    June 16, 2016 at 2:14 pm

    @LAO: membership in that org is sure a good starting point for investigation.

  65. 65.

    catclub

    June 16, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    @Mike J: Wake Forest U Demon Deacons ( elders of the Baptist church) for a Baptist College
    is never commented on as being even stranger – except by me!

  66. 66.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 2:15 pm

    OT. A second gravitational wave has been detected! Relatively puny, compared to the first one, the energy released in the event was ‘only’ one solar mass. But it’s a big deal– with two events you can do statistics! (Joke).

  67. 67.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 2:16 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support:

    Awesome!

  68. 68.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    @Downpuppy:

    There can be only one! Noah Seth Syndergaard IS Thor.

    Damn straight.

  69. 69.

    Elizabelle

    June 16, 2016 at 2:18 pm

    @schrodinger’s cat: Love it. Great way to learn the lyrics. (And they were not what I thought they were, in several lines ..)

  70. 70.

    Elizabelle

    June 16, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    @starscream: Not very, I am hoping.

    As goes Eric Cantor …. although I have yet to see a “Paul Ryan’s Bitch Face” website. Cantor was just made for that …

  71. 71.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    @EBT: Agreed. But one interesting point in the report is that Mack’s claims as to membership can’t be relied upon. And there is no official list. So how knows how many Sheriffs are actually members and who those Sheriffs actually are.

  72. 72.

    Roger Moore

    June 16, 2016 at 2:20 pm

    @Cacti:

    While I’ve never cared for Pete Rose, I can understand why he’s feeling a bit salty over MLB trying to ghost his all-time hits record in favor Ichiro (MLB + Nippon League).

    To be completely fair, it isn’t MLB that’s talking about that. They’re actually pretty protective of major league records being MLB records. It’s media people who want something to talk about who are treating the combined MLB and Japanese total as being a record. Even Ichiro hasn’t treated it as a big deal.

  73. 73.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    @MattF: It’s a Big F’n deal. A whole new window on the Universe has been opened, and who knows what we’ll learn. There’s a fleet of new gravitational wave detectors under construction/planned. Ten years from now we’ll be able to detect far more subtle signatures, and that detection will only get better as the years go by. 30 years from now we’ll be able to see the Universe via gravity fluctuations.

  74. 74.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 2:21 pm

    keep Thor in Thursday

    Woden don’t get no respect.

    ;)

  75. 75.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:22 pm

    @Elizabelle: Speaking of lyrics, the song “Blinded by the light” really bugs me, because the chorus clearly says “Wrapped up like a douche in the middle of the night” even if the band says its “Deuce”.

    There’s also a “Swirlie whirlie” line that’s annoying.

  76. 76.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    @NotMax: But Wednesday’s child is full of woe.

  77. 77.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 2:23 pm

    @Elizabelle: Dammit! I had somehow convinced myself to forget about Cantor. Now I have to review my list of the 5 most punchable faces:
    Cruz, McConnell, Trump, Cantor, Shkreli, Cruz, and Cruz

  78. 78.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    @redshirt

    Or Michael Jackson singing “The chair is not my son.”

  79. 79.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 2:24 pm

    @SFAW: If I were Syndergaard, my ring tone would be Vin Scully’s call on his second homeroom — “He is Thor!”

  80. 80.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 2:25 pm

    @Corner Stone: And Cruz and Cruz and Cruz. He’s in a class by himself. When he looks in a mirror, the mirror wants to punch him.

  81. 81.

    Poopyman

    June 16, 2016 at 2:25 pm

    @Mike J: Awesome. Trump will of course feel compelled to use this as cover and simultaneously try to top it. My bet is we hear something within the next 12 hours.

  82. 82.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:26 pm

    @shomi: You’re good now though, since you said the magic words.

  83. 83.

    Poopyman

    June 16, 2016 at 2:27 pm

    @NotMax: A day late and a krone short.

  84. 84.

    daves09

    June 16, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    From now on the Rube is Pundit Guy. With their X-ray vision they can see things invisible to literally everyone else in the world. Like the Rube’s viability as a candidate.

  85. 85.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 16, 2016 at 2:28 pm

    @Mike J: Rightwingers are the same wherever they are, I see. They certainly love to threaten their political opponents. So much for freedom.

  86. 86.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    @germy:

    For all the great lines from that musical that are entering the language, I think my favorite Miranda line of his oeuvre so far is from In the Heights: “Mister Softee’s truck has broken down.” It comes at the absolute perfect moment, and always makes me laugh out loud when I hear it.

  87. 87.

    Ryan

    June 16, 2016 at 2:29 pm

    Maybe you’re thinking of Bill O’Reilly?

  88. 88.

    Randy Khan

    June 16, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    @LAO:

    Yes, we are.

    There was a great article in the NY Times last year about the real Thor and a visit to his ancestral family home, where nobody had heard of him.

  89. 89.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 2:30 pm

    @redshirt:

    My local AA team – the Portland Sea Dogs

    I can’t tell if that’s African-American (racist!), Affirmative Action (racist again!). or Alcoholics Anonymous (drunkist!), but I am disappoint to see this side of you.

    Paul LePage’s aura must be infusing you with something-something-mumble-something.

  90. 90.

    daves09

    June 16, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    @Elizabelle: Must be hard for Cantor-he’s not even on the wingnut welfare circuit and absolutely no one wants him to run for anything.

  91. 91.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    @gogol’s wife

    Ancient humor.

    Q: Why doesn’t the Dairy Queen have any children?

    A: She married Mr. Softee.

  92. 92.

    C. Isaac

    June 16, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    A British MP was assassinated today in their own district.

    http://www.bbc.com/news/uk-england-36550304

    Reportedly the assassin was screaming ‘Britain First!’ as he killed her. MP Cox was part of the ‘Remain’ campaign to keep the UK inside of the EU.

    It’s hard not to look at stuff like this and get seriously worried about the way the western world is going.

  93. 93.

    pseudonymous in nc

    June 16, 2016 at 2:32 pm

    @Poopyman: no, the killer was a middle-aged white man, history of mental illness, murky stuff but fair to say that the climate is enough to push unstable people over the edge.

    British politics right now is toxic, Trumpian, “the brown people are coming”, awful, despairingly so. Scum on Facebook threatening Remain campaigners, saying “you’re next.”

    The MP who was killed previously worked for NGOs, with a focus on refugees, and represented a diverse constituency. She was elected last year, liked and respected by colleagues from all parties, expected to go far. She leaves behind a husband and two young children. My heart is broken.

  94. 94.

    EBT

    June 16, 2016 at 2:33 pm

    @LAO: well yeah a couple phone calls could clear out 75% and the ones conspiring against the government can be documented and moved upon.

  95. 95.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    Back when I was an undergraduate, I had a professor named Thor. Funny thing was, he was a Quaker and a pacifist.

  96. 96.

    Botsplainer, Neoliberal Corporate Shill

    June 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    So I note that Bernie is still up to tricks.

    You can tell his great appeal to the youth vote by the fact that they didn’t turn out in anything close to the numbers sufficient to give him a win.

  97. 97.

    Mnemosyne

    June 16, 2016 at 2:34 pm

    @redshirt:

    According to Google, you’re *really* wrong about that lyric. It’s:

    Revved up like a deuce
    Another runner in the night

    I’m assuming it’s a car reference of some kind.

  98. 98.

    Miss Bianca

    June 16, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    @LAO: This is the next movement that needs to be stamped into the ground, as far as I’m concerned.

  99. 99.

    rikyrah

    June 16, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    Uh huh
    Uh huh

    …………………

    Chris Matthews Thinks Trump Would Be Fine If He’d Just Hide His Racism, Attack Hillary, and ‘Build!’
    by Tommy Christopher | 9:21 am, June 16th, 2016 VIDEO 32

    The media’s idiotic anticipation of a Donald Trump “pivot” away from racism and insanity and toward something more “presidential” has found its perfect exemplar in MSNBC host Chris Matthews. At the close of Wednesday night’s Hardball, Matthews used his “Let Me Finish” segment to fervently wish that Trump would turn things around from his “slump” this week, stop talking about all this “ethnic stuff” (that’s WhitePeople-ese for “racism”), start attacking Hillary Clinton, and just “build!”:

    ……………

    Matthews’ weird fetish for building aside (he seems to have taken the term “Erector Set” entirely too much to heart), Matthews’ rant is everything that’s wrong with the mainstream media’s coverage of the Trump campaign times ten. Trump is not in a “slump,” he’s been doing the exact same thing for exactly one year, and the only thing worse than expecting him to reverse it now is thinking that reversing it could undo the damage he has done to himself. The political media in general, and Matthews in particular, treat Trump’s racism, xenophobia, and misogyny like messaging problems instead of the fatal moral failings that they are, and his loony, frightening policy pronouncements like knocks in an engine that just needs some fine-tuning.

    It’s no coincidence, though, that the media is dominated by the type of person who can more easily forgive and forget racism and bigotry and misogyny if Trump would just keep them to himself. It’s easy for them to fill out a blank pardon for Trump’s bigotry, because they were never going to be directly affected by it anyway. They should take a page from Trump and “ask the blacks, the women, the Hispanics, the Muslims” if they think Trump can “pivot” anywhere but straight to Hell.

  100. 100.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Yeah, but that’s their fault. It’s clearly “Douche”.

  101. 101.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 16, 2016 at 2:36 pm

    @Mnemosyne: 1932 Ford. As in the Beach Boys’ “Little Deuce Coupe.”

  102. 102.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:37 pm

    @SFAW: It’s a cheaper AAA.

  103. 103.

    Mnemosyne

    June 16, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    @gogol’s wife:

    They are apparently doing a production of “In The Heights” in Germany right now, and LMM is amused that it’s German dialogue and Spanglish songs, with German actors waving Carribbean flags.

  104. 104.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    I just called Senators Murphy and Blumenthal to express my support for their work on gun control. At both places, the person answering the phone said they were getting many more supportive calls than calls from gun nuts.

  105. 105.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    @NotMax:

    Or Michael Jackson singing “The chair is not my son.”

    Clearly, it was not.

  106. 106.

    Susan K of the tech support

    June 16, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    @MomSense + @Betty Cracker + @gogol’s wife:

    So glad you liked it!

    Nice to know we’re raising up a new crop of mimics and comedians! And boy howdy, do we ever need it.

  107. 107.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 2:38 pm

    @Joel:

    I wonder, does Dickey for Syndergaard and Arnaud count as the Bagwell for Anderson Jim Fregosi for Nolan Ryan of this generation?

    Keep it within the Mets “family,” if you please.

    ETA: And it’s not clear that D’Arnaud will end up being successful. He has the potential to be a good hitter, but his defensive skills are not quite on a par with Mike Piazza. And when you’re injured more than healthy, it might also be a problem.

  108. 108.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    See: Boys, Beach, The – “Little Deuce Coupe.”

    ;)

  109. 109.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 2:39 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    That must be strange.

  110. 110.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support:

    It was very nicely done. He had the mannerisms, intonations, and accents down perfectly, and he managed to make it about the school, so that it wouldn’t have offended supporters of any of the people he was imitating (except maybe Cruz).

  111. 111.

    gratuitous

    June 16, 2016 at 2:41 pm

    @SRW1: Rubio isn’t going to enlist until the military gets a little more stylish with their boots.

  112. 112.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    @SFAW: I’m too young to remember that trade. But, If I really want to rile my mother, I ask her about the Seaver trade.

  113. 113.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 2:44 pm

    ?

  114. 114.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    @redshirt:

    AAA? What does racism/drunkism have to do with roadside towing?

    You Mainiacs are either so sophisticated that a rube such as I just can’t follow your highbrow commentary, or you’re just weird.

  115. 115.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 16, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    @rikyrah: Another reason I’m glad I no longer watch Matthews. Huge sigh.

    I’m glad that Trump will not hide his bigotry. The worse thing that could happen to an increasingly diverse country like the U.S. is for a candidate to hide his true feelings and then act on them after he’s elected. At least we know Trump’s positions on minorities up front. No one can say that they’re surprised by anything he does if this country is dumb enough to elect him.

  116. 116.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 2:45 pm

    @gogol’s wife

    Also strange (as it’s a play revolving around speaking English!).

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    trollhattan

    June 16, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    @SFAW:
    Heh. What am I to make of our AAA team? (They have the best maps, though.)

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    r€nato

    June 16, 2016 at 2:47 pm

    wait a minute… if we’re at war… aren’t all Americans supposed to shut their fucking mouths and stand behind their president?

    That’s what millions of frothing-at-the-mouth Bush cultists constantly screamed at us dirty fucking hippies in the last decade…

  119. 119.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    @NotMax:

    But she’s wearing Audrey Hepburn’s outfit from the movie, so it’s okay!

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    C. Isaac

    June 16, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Shorter Tweety —

    I tawt I taw a pudgy twat — and I liked it!

  121. 121.

    trollhattan

    June 16, 2016 at 2:48 pm

    Kiddo just promoted from middle school; woke up with an 8th grader in the house, came home with a high-schooler. Woe is us!

  122. 122.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 2:49 pm

    @SFAW: I may be just a simple country chicken.

  123. 123.

    trollhattan

    June 16, 2016 at 2:50 pm

    @r€nato:
    How inconvenient of you to remember. Also, too, they’re pretty sure 9/11 happened under Clinton, similar to Ruby Ridge. Clinton really did have about three terms. Now we’re going for five!

  124. 124.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    @LAO:

    But, If I really want to rile my mother, I ask her about the Seaver trade.

    Me too. I would not be averse to resurrecting Dick Young, just so he could be killed. And same goes for Donald Grant. Motherfuckers.

    The Nolan Ryan thing was just a fuck-up, but the Seaver thing was Don Grant being a fucking dickhead, and Dick Young (sports “writer” for either the Post or the NYDN) played his part by dragging Seaver’s family (specifically, his wife) into things. Fuck both of them with a rusty pitchfork.

    Do I sound like your mother at all? If so, she sounds like a woman of distinction and high values. (I’m not, of course, but that’s because I’m an asshole, which your mother is certainly not.)

    Oh, and did I remember to say “Fuck Donald Grant and fuck Dick Young”?

  125. 125.

    Mnemosyne

    June 16, 2016 at 2:54 pm

    @NotMax:

    Not really — it’s a play that revolves around passing for someone of a higher social class and using language as a clad marker. That seems pretty adaptable to any language, at least in concept.

  126. 126.

    jeffreyw

    June 16, 2016 at 2:55 pm

    Welcome to Homer’s World

  127. 127.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 2:57 pm

    @Mnemosyne

    “Why can’t the English teach their children how to speak?”

    ’nuff said.

  128. 128.

    JustRuss

    June 16, 2016 at 2:59 pm

    @rikyrah: Apparently Trump’s grandfather was Irish, which puts him squarely in the Matthews/Russert “Good ol’ straight talkin’ Irish boys” club. Matthews will be trying to fluff him no matter what he says, he can’t help himself.

  129. 129.

    catclub

    June 16, 2016 at 3:00 pm

    @jeffreyw: Art reference. I get it! I get it!

  130. 130.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    @SFAW: My mother is a woman of a certain age — you’ve pretty much summed it up, but with slightly more profanity. She actually renounced her mets fandom for a couple of years as a result.

  131. 131.

    Roger Moore

    June 16, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I’m assuming it’s a car reference of some kind.

    Yes. A Deuce is a 1932 (i.e. thirty deuce) Ford, which was a tremendously popular car among hot rodders.

  132. 132.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    @JustRuss:

    Matthews/Russert “Good ol’ straight talkin’ Irish boys” club

    As opposed to the “Pat Buchanan (and his brothers) gang of bullies club.” Hmm, I wonder which of those is actually more in line with Trump’s personality … thinking .. thinking

  133. 133.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:02 pm

    @efgoldman: It doesn’t really suck though. It’s slightly below average at the worst.

  134. 134.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:03 pm

    @catclub: Me too! I’ve actually been to the location of the original painting.

  135. 135.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    @LAO:
    She sounds wonderful. She still live down there? (“Down there” being the NYC area, I’m in MA.)

  136. 136.

    Iowa Old Lady

    June 16, 2016 at 3:05 pm

    @Yutsano: As an ex-Detroiter, I looked at your comment for a while trying to figure out what Sparky Anderson had to do with Arizona State.

  137. 137.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 3:06 pm

    How to Win Friends and Influence People, Bizarro world edition.

    “Either they want to get behind the presumptive nominee who will be the nominee of this party and make sure that we do everything we can to win in November or we’re just asking them if they can’t do that, then just shut the hell up,” Trump campaign co-chair Sam Clovis said Thursday on CNN’s “New Day.” “That’s what we’re asking them to do.” Source

  138. 138.

    daryljfontaine

    June 16, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    @redshirt: Obviously not. His son was the blanket.

    D

  139. 139.

    Iowa Old Lady

    June 16, 2016 at 3:08 pm

    @Mike J: Let’s see if we can get Trump to talk about how great the murdering a-holes are.

  140. 140.

    jeffreyw

    June 16, 2016 at 3:10 pm

    @catclub:
    Why yeth, yeth it was!

  141. 141.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 3:11 pm

    @SFAW: Yup (and my father is a Yankee fan, so mixed marriage). During particular important games (playoff, etc), we can often be found texting each other throughout. I hate going to games with her though, because, like most true orange and blue met fans, she can be a real nervous nelly!

    The joke in my family is that my mom got me (daughter) and my dad got my two brothers — the only team we all agree on is the NY Giants.

  142. 142.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:13 pm

    @efgoldman: You can’t race a lobster around the bases.

  143. 143.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:15 pm

    @LAO:

    the only team we all agree on is the NY Giants.

    You all hate them? Or love them?

    Assuming it’s the latter: one of the BEST THINGS EVER is their record in Super Bowls against the Pats.

  144. 144.

    raven

    June 16, 2016 at 3:17 pm

    @SFAW: Stinkin Jankees!

  145. 145.

    NotMax

    June 16, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    @redshirt

    Involves chasing it while wielding a nutcracker and carafe of drawn butter.

    Baseball of zero interest to me, however did once get lifetime passes by winning a contest to name a team.

    Not just that team, but the entire league went belly up soon after.

  146. 146.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:18 pm

    @redshirt:

    You can’t race a lobster around the bases.

    You’d be surprised: bring along a bowl of melted butter and a nutcracker, and — WATCH ‘EM GO!

    Steamers, on the other hand — well, you can’t do a thing with them (on the basepaths, that is).

  147. 147.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:20 pm

    @raven:

    Stinkin Jankees!

    Why the hate for The Bronx’s Triple-A team? Or do you mean “people north of the Mason-Dixon”?

  148. 148.

    Elie

    June 16, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    @NotMax:

    This is the last stage before they go into complete melt down, deer in the headlights no response,shock mode. Clearly (at least to me), they are completely overwhelmed emotionally, tactically and strategically to even remotely say something like this. I am sure that at some point in the not too distant future, folks will be heading for the exits, leaving Trump ranting at the walls. The thing is such a mess it will be hard to clean up before the convention and may not be fixable after either…

  149. 149.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:21 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Thanx a bunch, science Obama.

    Fixed

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    Litlebritdifrnt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    @redshirt:

    That is “Curlie Wurlie” it is a chocolate covered caramel bar in England.

  151. 151.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    @SFAW: Just trolling now.

  152. 152.

    burnspbesq

    June 16, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    @Joel:

    does Dickey for Syndergaard and Arnaud count as the Bagwell for Anderson of this generation?

    If d’Arnaud is ever healthy enough to play a full season, maybe.

  153. 153.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    @Litlebritdifrnt: It’s all madness!

  154. 154.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:22 pm

    @NotMax:

    I gotta learn to type faster.

  155. 155.

    Yutsano

    June 16, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    @Iowa Old Lady: That…amused me more than it should have. Of course MikeJ and I will discuss Pac-12 stuff without losing each other and then I forget ESPN loses the plot somewhere around the Mississippi river.

    @efgoldman: They should. Ryan has a Teatard challenger who has made some noise and has the added benefit of being a total moron. But Janesville isn’t exactly progressive paradise either.

  156. 156.

    Paul in KY

    June 16, 2016 at 3:24 pm

    @Cacti: Cheating Pete used a corked bat, so he can STFU.

  157. 157.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    @NotMax: Heh. You and SFAW had the same comment at the same time.

    I had the stereotypical “befriend a lobster as a child then watch in horror as it’s boiled alive” moment which turned me off lobster entirely, and I assume led me down the road to vegetarianism.

  158. 158.

    Roger Moore

    June 16, 2016 at 3:25 pm

    @efgoldman:

    The legendary Dick Stuart (Dr Strangeglove) hit 70+ homers one year in AAA when he was a Pirates farmhand

    Actually, it was 66 HR, not 70+, and it was in A ball, not AAA. Specifically, it was for Lincoln, Nebraska in the Western League in 1956. Stuart said it has surprisingly little effect on how the team treated him. It was so far out of the realm of their experience that they just didn’t know how to treat it, so they more or less ignored it, and he started the next season in A ball again.

  159. 159.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:26 pm

    @redshirt:

    Just trolling now.

    You say that as if it’s a bad thing.

    Trolling Pats fans helps make America great.

    ETA: Again.

  160. 160.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    @SFAW: Angry growl….

  161. 161.

    hovercraft

    June 16, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    @rikyrah:
    Tweety has the immigration bug up his ass. He makes comments about the lack of enforcement of the Reagan amnesty provisions. They got amnesty but there was no border enforcement. He says democrats want amnesty but they don’t want enforcement, and they don’t really want immigration reform because they want it as an election issue. According to him Obama never really pushed for immigration and hasn’t done enough on the enforcement side. I guess his republican friends and family are his sources on this. For a couple of years after 2012 he kept harping on Obama never having pushed for jobs or infrastructure. When the American Jobs Act was pointed out to him, his response was that there was not much discussion of this in the media. Head desk. He harbors the illusion that America is a center right country and if Donald just sticks to building, he will be able to get minorities to vote for him because jobs. Apparently just as he missed all the coverage about Obama and jobs/immigration, he has missed all the coverage about Trumps business practices and his lack of any plans.
    I guess if they are not discussing it in the DC cocktail circuit, it never happened.
    Clinton has deep troubles, because I said so.

  162. 162.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    @redshirt:

    I had the stereotypical “befriend a lobster as a child then watch in horror as it’s boiled alive” moment which turned me off lobster entirely,

    My sincere condolences

    I, on the other hand, have been going to Bayley’s for 50-plus years, and would consider buying a home near there (If Pine Point weren’t so freaking expensive.)

  163. 163.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 3:30 pm

    Did anyone else see the comments from McCain that PBO was “directly responsible” for the Orlando attacks?

  164. 164.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    @redshirt:

    Angry growl….

    My work here is done.

  165. 165.

    Brachiator

    June 16, 2016 at 3:31 pm

    At the close of Wednesday night’s Hardball, Matthews used his “Let Me Finish” segment to fervently wish that Trump would turn things around from his “slump” this week, stop talking about all this “ethnic stuff” (that’s WhitePeople-ese for “racism”), start attacking Hillary Clinton, and just “build!”

    Build what? A wall?

  166. 166.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    @hovercraft: I saw that Tweety jag in real time and I was immediately aghast and all like “WTF Tweety?!”

  167. 167.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 3:33 pm

    @SFAW: Lovely area.

    I’ve been out lobstering though. Brutal work. So many guys missing fingers. And the freaking seagulls! Holy heck!

  168. 168.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 3:34 pm

    @SFAW:

    one of the BEST THINGS EVER is their record in Super Bowls against the Pats.

    ABSOLUTELY! One of my brother is a federal LEO and in 2008, he was located in Boston — he’s co-workers gave him endless shit in the weeks leading up to the superbowl, He was so aggravated with them, he wouldn’t watch the game with any of his friends or co-workers. The next day after the Giants won, he told me, the entire city of Boston was so stunned and butthurt — he couldn’t even make fun of them. (And he can be a real asshole, so they must have been super pathetic).

    Do you root for all NY teams — that can’t be easy in MA.

  169. 169.

    LAO

    June 16, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yes, he remains an angry bitter loser.

  170. 170.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 3:36 pm

    @Corner Stone: Yeah. Just to remind everyone that he’s a Republican.

  171. 171.

    Brachiator

    June 16, 2016 at 3:40 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Did anyone else see the comments from McCain that PBO was “directly responsible” for the Orlando attacks?

    The pushback on this foolishness was swift and to-the-point.

    McCain is seeking a sixth term in the Senate from Arizona and is locked in a tight race.

    Democrats quickly pounced on McCain’s criticism.

    Adam Jentleson, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said McCain’s “unhinged comments are just the latest proof that Senate Republicans are puppets of Donald Trump.“

  172. 172.

    SciNY

    June 16, 2016 at 3:41 pm

    @Corner Stone: Just did. Sigh. The ersatz Maverick and straight shooter has debased himself thoroughly, no less than Christie and all the other spineless wonders in the GOP. Trump says he’s not a hero, but because McCain needs Trump’s mouth breathers to vote for him (to offset the yuuge Hispanic turnout against him), McCain can’t disavow a single crazy thing Hair Fuhrer says. In other words, this is excellent news for John McCain!

  173. 173.

    Shell

    June 16, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    “befriend a lobster as a child then watch in horror as it’s boiled alive” moment

    I must have been pretty hard-hearted as a kid…I loved going crabbing on our vacations down at the Jersey Shore. (We had traps, but I prefered the
    bait on the end of a piece of a string method Pull it up slowly and scoop him up with a net right when he got to the surface. Seemed more sporting that way.)
    And I had no problem dumping them into the boiling water. After our feast, we threw all the left-over shells and other bits into the Bay, to the delight of the gulls and other crabs, who are quite the cannibals.

  174. 174.

    Miss Bianca

    June 16, 2016 at 3:43 pm

    @redshirt: I’m sort of wondering how one befriends a lobster.

    But then, I had lobster for the first time after my first Detroit Tigers game when I was a nipperkin (how’s that for tying two threads together?), and have never allowed a twinge of guilt or regret to restrain me since.

  175. 175.

    Leto

    June 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    Powerful Hollywood conservative group whose secret members include Clint Eastwood and Jon Voight forced to disband due to constant infighting over Donald Trump
    It’s the Daily Mail, so you know… but still, this is pretty damn hilarious. I mean, when they’ve lost such luminaries as Clint “Old man yells at chair” Eastwood…

  176. 176.

    RaflW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    After the giant turd Gramps McCain just dropped, I needed a laugh.

    This did it:

    @HeerJeet
    Anyone know a good book on Stockholm Syndrome? I’m looking for a gift for Reince Priebus

    ETA: Leto’s tidbit about Empty-Chair Clint provides a nice chaser.

  177. 177.

    GregB

    June 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Give ’em hell Harry. The GOP is manfacturing the rope to lash the whole party to SS Trump by the mile.

  178. 178.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 3:44 pm

    @Corner Stone: Why do they call him tweety? I never understand the origin of that name.

  179. 179.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 3:45 pm

    @germy: Think yellow hair.

  180. 180.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    @MattF: Ahhh… makes sense.

  181. 181.

    Leto

    June 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    @Brachiator: McCain has taken $7.4M from the NRA. There are not enough rusty instruments with which he can go f#ck himself.

  182. 182.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 3:47 pm

    what the heck is this and why?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs

  183. 183.

    randy khan

    June 16, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    @SFAW:

    but his defensive skills are not quite on a par with Mike Piazza.

    Speaking as a Mets fan, that’s a lovely little burn.

  184. 184.

    RaflW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:49 pm

    @Leto: Volsky just updated, turns out it’s $7.7 million.

    $300K here or there, pretty soon you’re talking about real death and destruction…

  185. 185.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 3:50 pm

    McCain trying to walk back his bullshit.

  186. 186.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    Onion headline from ’08:
    McCain’s Economic Plan For Nation: ‘Everyone Marry A Beer Heiress’

  187. 187.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:51 pm

    @redshirt:

    Lovely area.

    Yeah. Spent a fair amount of time there when I was younger. Except for the expectation that it’ll be an island in 20 years — although at that point, I’d be too old to care anyway (if I live that long) — I’d try to buy something there (as I mentioned up-thread). I also remember when the Clambake was about the size of a small Dairy Queen. (Now I’m starting to sound like erfgoldman.)

    I’ve been out lobstering though. Brutal work.

    I’ve never been, but I know that you’re speaking truth. I imagine it’s part of the reason for the (possibly apocryphal) stories of lobstermen shooting anyone they catch poaching their traps.

  188. 188.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    i seem to be in moderation again.
    mighty pretty country ’round here.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZbM6WbUw7Bs

  189. 189.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:52 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Why not, if they race sausages (and they do)

    I would have thought “links” would be associated with golf, not baseball.

  190. 190.

    Leto

    June 16, 2016 at 3:53 pm

    @RaflW: What’s $300K amongst merchants of death… errr… friends?

  191. 191.

    Fair Economist

    June 16, 2016 at 3:54 pm

    @efgoldman:

    How safe is Paul Ryan’s seat?

    Are the Dems even putting up a credible candidate?

    Ryan’s seat is distinctly not safe in the current climate. It’s something like R+4. The Democrats didn’t get any professional politicians to run, though. One of them is a party activist, so that’s something.

  192. 192.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 3:56 pm

    @germy: Because of his oversized yooge melon and the used to be more yellow color of his hair.

  193. 193.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 3:57 pm

    @randy khan:

    Glad someone picked up on it.

    I’m REALLY hoping D’Arnaud becomes a top-notch catcher, but he’ll never be a great hitter with Kevin Long instructing him. My brother noted that when D’Arnaud spent some time in Vegas with Wally Backman, his hitting improved measurably. Maybe Alderson can trade Long for Backman? No idea whether Wally is a good hitting coach or what, but even Charley Lau is better than Long.

  194. 194.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    The words “directly responsible” do not allow a whole lot of leeway to back off of.

  195. 195.

    MattF

    June 16, 2016 at 3:58 pm

    @Corner Stone: Der Trump has really spoiled the game. You can’t insinuate anything any more.

  196. 196.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 4:00 pm

    @SFAW: “Lobster wars” are real and happen semi-frequently, probably based on a cycle of cost per pound and how good the year turned out. They usually involve someone “new” to the area (New here could still mean 20 years) trapping on the turf of some old timer, though of course there are no official areas where one lobsterman gets exclusive rights – it’s unwritten rules.

    Traps getting cut/stolen is usually the worst of it, but there has been violence too.

  197. 197.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 4:01 pm

    @efgoldman: Good point, for costumes. But the Sea Dogs have an actual, live pig who runs.

  198. 198.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 4:02 pm

    @efgoldman: I LOVE the nickname “Dr. Strangeglove”.

  199. 199.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    @GregB:

    “SS Trump”

    I saw what you did there.

  200. 200.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 4:04 pm

    @redshirt:

    Apologies if I’m prying, but where are you? Coastal? Inland Cumberland County? York County? Portland? Doesn’t sound like you’re in Fort Kent or Presque Isle.

  201. 201.

    gogol's wife

    June 16, 2016 at 4:06 pm

    @germy:

    You just broke my brain.

  202. 202.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 4:08 pm

    @gogol’s wife: My apologies. I admit I had to turn the sound off halfway through, but I watched to the bitter end.

  203. 203.

    The Golux

    June 16, 2016 at 4:09 pm

    @SFAW:

    Keep it within the Mets “family,” if you please.

    And at least the Red Sox were the beneficiaries of a lopsided trade, getting Derek Lowe and Jason Varitek (the battery in the clinching game in 2004) for Heathcliff Slocumb, who only pitched three more seasons. Thanks Mariners!

  204. 204.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 4:10 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Because of his oversized yooge melon

    Thump test indicates hollowness…

  205. 205.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 4:13 pm

    @germy: They seem to get more than a little annoyed when I thump their melons.

  206. 206.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 4:19 pm

    @SFAW: Western Maine mountains, near Bethel.

  207. 207.

    rikyrah

    June 16, 2016 at 4:21 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Did anyone else see the comments from McCain that PBO was “directly responsible” for the Orlando attacks?

    Did he really say that?

  208. 208.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 4:22 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    Because of his oversized yooge melon

    We’ll need a stronger pike.

  209. 209.

    Gravenstone

    June 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    @Mnemosyne: It’s originally a Springsteen song. Yes it’s a car reference. And Springsteen jokes about how Manfred Mann’s version mangles the chorus.

  210. 210.

    gene108

    June 16, 2016 at 4:23 pm

    @Brachiator:

    McCain is seeking a sixth term in the Senate from Arizona

    The Senate must be one-helluva a drug.

    Already put in 24 years, pushing 80 years old, and married into enough money to never need work a day in his life and yet he still wants to keep his job.

  211. 211.

    Corner Stone

    June 16, 2016 at 4:24 pm

    @rikyrah: See Cole’s follow up post –> for linked context.

  212. 212.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 4:26 pm

    @redshirt:
    Nice area, kind of a haul to Portland, however.

  213. 213.

    germy

    June 16, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    @gene108: Can you imagine him around the house with nothing to do? His wife would move to one of their other houses.

  214. 214.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 4:28 pm

    @SFAW: It’s a haul to anywhere. You get used to it, I guess. An hour round trip to get groceries.

    But then I have complete and total isolation and nothing but woods around me. So….

  215. 215.

    WaterGirl

    June 16, 2016 at 4:29 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support: That was totally awesome!

  216. 216.

    J R in WV

    June 16, 2016 at 4:35 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    I’m thinkin’ the “deuce” is two 4-barrel carbs on a V-8 hot-rod.

    Which would have been gnarly back in the hot-rod days!

  217. 217.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 16, 2016 at 4:37 pm

    @redshirt: Season pass at Sunday River?

  218. 218.

    hovercraft

    June 16, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    @Corner Stone:
    msnbc election coverage new hires:
    Hugh Hewitt– satans spawn, smarmy, liar
    Nicole Wallace– Palin handmaiden , who in the end could not vote for her, sane
    Ben Ginsberg– typical republican talking points, reality based
    Rick Tyler– former Cruz spokesman, need I say more
    Sarah Isgur Flores– former Carly Fiorina staffer, a lying liar like her boss
    Charlie Sykes– right wing talker anti-Trump
    And Tweety has decided to resurrect Anne Coulters career.
    They still have their other mainstays, Steele, Schmidt, and the Romney one.

  219. 219.

    WaterGirl

    June 16, 2016 at 4:45 pm

    @Susan K of the tech support: About 2 minutes into the video, I found myself feeling sorry for everyone who had to come after this kid. I decided that if I were the next kid to speak, I would just go up to the mic and say “happy graduation, everybody!, can we have a round of applause for the kid who went before me” and go sit down.

  220. 220.

    J R in WV

    June 16, 2016 at 4:47 pm

    @Corner Stone:

    I lost all respect for Crashin’ McCain when I read his autobiography, in which he admits to being a terrible officer in the USN. Both his father and his grandfather were Admirals, which gave him great opportunity, which he never took advantage of.

    Near the bottom of his class at Annapolis, not a top student at flight school, crashed more planes than usually allowed, helped make the fire on the Forrestal much worse than it had to be, fled the flight deck rather than attempt to lead a damage-control team, shot down while not following the flight-plan for his mission.

    Should have been cashiered long before he became a POW. So not a hero.

    No surprise he’s accusing a brave President of treason. McCain is scum.

  221. 221.

    Betty Cracker

    June 16, 2016 at 4:50 pm

    @hovercraft: I can’t explain it, but I don’t mind Schmidt, Wallace and Steele. They’ve done evil things, but they don’t seem like evil people — particularly Steele. The rest should be cast into the Fox pyre.

  222. 222.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 16, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Like someone else here, every time I see Nicole Wallace I think of the recurring character by the same name on Law & Order: Criminal Intent. She was more interesting, though.

  223. 223.

    WaterGirl

    June 16, 2016 at 4:53 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Adam Jentleson, a spokesman for Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nev., said McCain’s “unhinged comments are just the latest proof that Senate Republicans are puppets of Donald Trump.“

    Dear Harry Reid,

    I love you. Please don’t retire.

    WaterGirl

  224. 224.

    hovercraft

    June 16, 2016 at 4:58 pm

    @Betty Cracker:
    Me too, the old ones are your regular shills, the new one sociopaths.

  225. 225.

    Roger Moore

    June 16, 2016 at 5:17 pm

    @SFAW:

    his defensive skills are not quite on a par with Mike Piazza.

    For all the shit he got, Piazza was actually a fair defensive catcher. He had a terrible arm, which got most of the attention, but he was good at just about everything else. He was good to excellent at blocking balls in the dirt. Though we don’t have the PitchFX stuff for when he was playing, the evidence suggests he was good at framing pitches; at the very least, his team’s pitchers always threw more strikes when he was catching than when the other catchers were. And he seems to have been generally good at working with pitchers. He certainly had a fine record of working with young pitchers, which is where you expect it to show up the most.

  226. 226.

    1,000 Flouncing Lurkers (was fidelioscabinet)

    June 16, 2016 at 6:22 pm

    @SFAW: Or, as Dodgers fans of an earlier age were known to say “I’d shoot O’Malley twice.”

  227. 227.

    redshirt

    June 16, 2016 at 6:58 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Heh. I don’t ski.

  228. 228.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 7:06 pm

    @Roger Moore:

    Fair points, but a lot of what you mentioned were (to my feeble mind) not really defensive skills, but game/pitcher management. Managing pitchers — especially young ones — is an extremely important part of the game, of course, but it’s not a defensive skill as such.

    I have/had no problem with Piazza, generally, but I view him similar to how I viewed Armando Benitez: excellent 95 to 99 percent of the time, but tended to choke in far too many high-pressure situations. Everybody chokes from time to time, but Piazza seemed to do it more than would be expected for a hitter of his caliber. (At least, when he was a Met, don’t know about his Dodger years).

  229. 229.

    SFAW

    June 16, 2016 at 7:07 pm

    @1,000 Flouncing Lurkers (was fidelioscabinet):

    Or, as Dodgers fans of an earlier age were known to say “I’d shoot O’Malley twice.”

    Understandable.

  230. 230.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 16, 2016 at 7:59 pm

    @redshirt: You should.

  231. 231.

    Paul in KY

    June 17, 2016 at 8:20 am

    @J R in WV: Hear hear!!!

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