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You are here: Home / Nature & Respite / Birdwatching / Friday Evening Open Thread

Friday Evening Open Thread

by Betty Cracker|  October 6, 20174:55 pm| 180 Comments

This post is in: Birdwatching, Open Threads

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Anyone know what kind of bird this is?

It sure is a beauty. It is even now perched on the light pole in my yard. I think it made some faint whistling noises, but I can’t be sure.

ETA: Some folks on Twitter, including our own Cheryl, ID’d it as a starling. I shall call her “Clarice.”

Open thread!

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  1. 1.

    chopper

    October 6, 2017 at 4:58 pm

    looks like a starling.

  2. 2.

    rikyrah

    October 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    Lawmakers, Facebook in standoff over lifting veil on Russian ads

    Facebook is refusing to let the public see 3,000 election-related ads the Kremlin placed on its network during the 2016 presidential race – including posts suspected to have been part of what many U.S. lawmakers and the American intelligence community now agree was a campaign to drive voters to choose Donald Trump over Hillary Clinton.

    Despite increasing pressure from Democrats, the Silicon Valley giant is holding firm to its line that company policy allows Facebook to disclose “user content” only in response to a court-ordered warrant.

    Given the unprecedented nature of the Kremlin’s interference in the U.S. election – and the still-open investigations into whether Trump’s team colluded with Moscow – Democrats’ patience is running out.

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/news/nation-world/national/article177316546.html

  3. 3.

    Japa21

    October 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    To be more precise I believe it is a European starling.

  4. 4.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2017 at 5:02 pm

    It’s a bit dark, I’d call it a dark bird.

  5. 5.

    Yutsano

    October 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    I’m in the mood for a nice Chianti and some fava beans now.

    Also: I knew my Czech bird loving friend would know.

  6. 6.

    Lapassionara

    October 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    Love the bird pix.

  7. 7.

    The Moar You Know

    October 6, 2017 at 5:03 pm

    A passerine.

  8. 8.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2017 at 5:07 pm

    @chopper:
    Seems likely, and they’re quite the vocalists.

    Hey everybody, remember making fun of Mr. Chunky Reese? He’s still at it in the NYT and had things to say about Hef’s recent passing. You can read the whole thing if curious, but I have to share this writing crime in particular.

    And his appreciation of male-female difference was rotten, too — the leering predatory sort of appreciation, the Cosby-Clinton-Trump sort, the sort that nicknames quaaludes “thigh openers” and expects the girls to laugh, the sort that prefers breast implants to female intellect and rents the charms of youth to escape the realities of age.

    Got that? President Bill Clinton is just like both Donny the Slut and Bill serial-rapist Cosby. Can somebody ask li’l Ross why, instead of Clinton he didn’t pick, say, Newt Gingrich who was busy banging his aide while married to wife #2 AND denigrating Clinton on the House floor. Any reason at all?

  9. 9.

    scott alloway

    October 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @Japa21: I agree. We have many around our place. Pretty birds. Raised one that fell out of the nest and released it on Memorial Day one year. It hung around for months.

  10. 10.

    ljdramone

    October 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    It’s a juvenile European Starling that’s molting into its adult non-breeding plumage.

  11. 11.

    Shana

    October 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    I’m pulling Shabos dinner together while waiting for younger daughter to come home for a long weekend. Sumac chicken over chickpeas and baby carrots, salad, challah, homemade brownies and a nice Benziger chardonnay. Older daughter is also coming over for dinner So looking forward to this weekend.

  12. 12.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 6, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    A young starling at that.

  13. 13.

    Elie

    October 6, 2017 at 5:10 pm

    Definitely starling — female I think….

  14. 14.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Meh, I’m fine with Facebook holding out for a warrant. Makes it easier to use the ads in court later.

  15. 15.

    mdblanche

    October 6, 2017 at 5:11 pm

    @Yutsano: Maybe you could have an old friend for dinner.

  16. 16.

    jl

    October 6, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    I think common starling is best ID. So many subspecies all over the place can’t say more than that.
    Why is there only one?

    I enjoyed watching the clouds of those birds maneuvering over the farm when I was a kid. Sometimes were fun to listen to, sometimes irritating as hell.

  17. 17.

    jeffreyw

    October 6, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    Yep, it’s a starling.

  18. 18.

    Ocotillo

    October 6, 2017 at 5:13 pm

    Looks like a bird on a wire.

  19. 19.

    patrick II

    October 6, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    @rikyrah:
    Good to know facebook.is protecting the ”user content ” of a Russian attack on the U.S. electoral process.. Privacy is important when running an electronic insurrection and Facebook has stood by such high principles.

  20. 20.

    Rihilsim

    October 6, 2017 at 5:15 pm

    The “IDing” is all well and good but what is the air-speed velocity of an unladen starling?…

  21. 21.

    Big Picture Pathologist

    October 6, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    A boobie!

    (runs away giggling)

  22. 22.

    OzarkHillbilly

    October 6, 2017 at 5:16 pm

    @jl:

    Sometimes were fun to listen to, sometimes irritating as hell.

    What’s really irritating is when they roost in a tree over/near your house. The noise is the least of it.

  23. 23.

    jl

    October 6, 2017 at 5:19 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly: When I was kid, for some reason they never roosted hear the buildings. Maybe more bugs for their kids in the trees far from the house. But, yes, I can imagine the mess and the noise would be a problem if they swarmed over your house.

  24. 24.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2017 at 5:22 pm

    @OzarkHillbilly:
    Never saw starlings as a kid because they had yet to cross the western mountain ranges. They made up for it and now are a major ag pest in the area and we see virtual clouds of them in fall. It’s eerie, like a Speilberg sky, to watch the cloud twist and turn on itself, changing shape like a school of fish. We wouldn’t have them at all were it not for this putz.

  25. 25.

    Roger Moore

    October 6, 2017 at 5:23 pm

    @Rihilsim:

    what is the air-speed velocity of an unladen starling?

    What do you mean, a common starling or a spotless starling?

  26. 26.

    dm

    October 6, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    Starlings are one of those bird species that was imported to North America by that person who thought we should have an instance of every bird species mentioned in Shakespeare, aren’t they?

  27. 27.

    rikyrah

    October 6, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    we are getting closer to the crazyfication factor:

    Keith Olbermann‏Verified account @KeithOlbermann

    For crying out loud. AP Poll:

    Trump Approval: 32%
    Trump Disapproval: 67%
    Trump GOP Approval: 67%

    https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/916410000347750400

  28. 28.

    Roger Moore

    October 6, 2017 at 5:25 pm

    @jl:

    Sometimes were fun to listen to, sometimes irritating as hell.

    Could be worse. We have Amazon parrots in my area, and a large flock of them can raise a real ruckus.

  29. 29.

    germy

    October 6, 2017 at 5:26 pm

    The writer Robert Benchley was not fond of birds.

    “They’re all right in profile,” he once said. “But did you ever see one of the sons of bitches head on?”

  30. 30.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2017 at 5:27 pm

    Am newly informed the collective noun for starlings is a murmuration. Here’s a pic.

  31. 31.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 6, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    Trump at 32% approval rating. I guess attacking Black NFL players for peacefully protesting police brutality isn’t a winning cause after all. Ditto acting the fool in Puerto Rico.

    How low can he go? And how low before Republicans in Congress figure out that he’s an albatross around their necks.

  32. 32.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 5:29 pm

    @Roger Moore: Try a murder of crows roosting near your house.

  33. 33.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    October 6, 2017 at 5:30 pm

    @Roger Moore: And that’s not taking into account ruckus that Ruckus makes.

  34. 34.

    Rihilism

    October 6, 2017 at 5:31 pm

    @Roger Moore: Huh? I… I don’t know that. Auuuuuuuugh!!!!!!!!

  35. 35.

    kindness

    October 6, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    That isn’t a Starling. While they have mottled stomachs they have grey/black backs.

    A young one eh? And what is with this European Starling thingy? You know Starlings aren’t native the the Americas. Our forefathers brought them over with them from England because the missed them. Asshole forefathers.

  36. 36.

    Amir Khalid

    October 6, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    @Big Picture Pathologist:
    I have a deep admiration for your sense of humour.

  37. 37.

    Roger Moore

    October 6, 2017 at 5:32 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:
    Parrots are way worse.

  38. 38.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    @Roger Moore: If that is true, then my sympathies. Crows roosting near my house get me thinking about a shotgun, and I’m a real Corvid fan.

  39. 39.

    Mustang Bobby

    October 6, 2017 at 5:36 pm

    Starlings are feral, noisy, and extremely social (not in a good way). Down here in Miami they gather in mobs at dusk and make a racket that sets off car alarms… not to mention their ability to shit in unison.

    @dm:They used to live exclusively in Europe, but legend has it that some well-meaning but misguided naturalist wanted to populate Central Park with all the birds mentioned in Shakespeare, so a small flock was imported. Nature took over; they have no natural predators and they adapted.

  40. 40.

    ThresherK

    October 6, 2017 at 5:37 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: But his base is reaching new heights in the “fewer but purer” sweepstakes, and if listening to NPR has taught me anything, it’s that the RW base are the most undercovered prize in all punditdom.

  41. 41.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2017 at 5:39 pm

    @kindness:
    As a ten-minute internet starling expert I can add that’s non-breeding adult coloration. Ones with the oil-slick backs got lucky.

    Find them amusing when they stomp across the lawn poking around for seed and bugs, all while squabbling with the others.

  42. 42.

    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 5:40 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: And that’s with good economic news.

  43. 43.

    JPL

    October 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    @Shana: I imagine that fun will be had by all. The meal sounds yummy.

  44. 44.

    Van Buren

    October 6, 2017 at 5:41 pm

    What kind of bird has a deep trilling call heard only in the fall and only in the real early AM – like 4 ish. I’m on Long Island. I hear it every year and have no idea what it is.

  45. 45.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 5:43 pm

    Starlings are the bird equivalent of locusts.

  46. 46.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 6, 2017 at 5:45 pm

    So now the FBI has identified a new terrorist threat to the U.S. which it calls “Black Identity Extremists” otherwise known as BLM and its ilk. We are drifting back into the Civil Rights era where the FBI harassed and monitored Dr. King and other Civil Rights activists while letting White Supremacists off the hook.

  47. 47.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 6, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    @ThresherK: You should put “undercovered” in quotes. I’m sick and tired of hearing about that precious White Working Class which decided to elect an ignoramus who can do nothing for them because he doesn’t give a dang about them. I suppose he’s making White Evangelicals deliriously happy with his restrictions on reproductive rights and LGBT rights this morning but those won’t help the WWC get better jobs or higher incomes.

  48. 48.

    dmsilev

    October 6, 2017 at 5:48 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: It’s true. I live in the same area as Roger, and the parrots are (a) common and (b) very very loud.

    It could be still worse, however. One town in the area has a large flock of feral peacocks wandering around. The males have a loud cry that sounds disturbingly similar to a small child shouting “help, help”.

  49. 49.

    Miss Bianca

    October 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    @trollhattan: Oh, I caught that one, too. I had friends approvingly linking to this article on FB and I was like, “sorry, it’s Ross Douchehat we’re talking about here – the enemy of my enemy is NOT my friend. Just because he is a righteous moral scold about a male chauvinist pig doesn’t make him a feminist.”

  50. 50.

    bystander

    October 6, 2017 at 5:49 pm

    This summer I have witnessed three separate hawk-on-crow attacks. That’s three hundred percent more than in my previous 17 summers in Pa.

  51. 51.

    efgoldman

    October 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    We are drifting back into the Civil Rights era where the FBI harassed and monitored Dr. King and other Civil Rights activists while letting White Supremacists off the hook.

    You know it's damned near impossible to monitor all those lone wolfs [sic] right?

  52. 52.

    rikyrah

    October 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    Oliver Willis‏Verified account @owillis

    Watch: Sarah Huckabee Sanders callously laughs at women who will lose their birth control https://shareblue.com/watch-sarah-huckabee-sanders-callously-laughs-at-women-who-will-lose-their-birth-control/#.WdfmKykM1n8.twitter … via @shareblue

    https://twitter.com/owillis/status/916398444998041600

  53. 53.

    dmsilev

    October 6, 2017 at 5:50 pm

    @rikyrah: 67% approval among the GOP, while disturbingly high in any absolute sense, is the lowest number for in-party approval that I can remember seeing for him. It’s usually in the mid to upper 80s.

  54. 54.

    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:

    I live next to a church, and there’s a murder hanging out most Saturdays in the large, empty parking lot. I figured they were Jewish spirits holding out for a minyan. They’re huge, lumbering, noisy things.

  55. 55.

    Cermet

    October 6, 2017 at 5:52 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: Haven’t had one of those recently but did see an attempted murder of crows not too long ago … ;)

  56. 56.

    Miss Bianca

    October 6, 2017 at 5:53 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Word. “Black Identity Extremists”, Christ on a bouncy rubber crutch…

  57. 57.

    rikyrah

    October 6, 2017 at 5:54 pm

    THREAD

    THREAD

    Renato Mariotti‏Verified account @renato_mariotti

    Renato Mariotti Retweeted Michael Del Moro

    MINI-THREAD: What does news that Mueller met with the Chief Judge of the D.C. federal court and a group of attorneys mean?

    https://twitter.com/renato_mariotti/status/916396179331731456

  58. 58.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2017 at 5:56 pm

    @Miss Bianca:
    Do you suppose the reason he felt so free from using the usual NYT polite filters is figuring he’d get assent from conflicted liberals and feminists? I seldom read him but cannot ever recall his being this unhinged.

  59. 59.

    ThresherK

    October 6, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    @Mustang Bobby: That is more than legend, I think.

  60. 60.

    rikyrah

    October 6, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    LOL

    The New Yorker‏Verified account @NewYorker

    There is apparently an enmity between Rex Tillerson and Nikki Haley: http://nyer.cm/QpvCao3

    https://twitter.com/NewYorker/status/916417143511666689

  61. 61.

    MomSense

    October 6, 2017 at 6:00 pm

    @Yutsano:

    And now I’m craving ful mudammas.

  62. 62.

    ThresherK

    October 6, 2017 at 6:02 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Douthat and “Hef’s a lib” is some incredible Olympic-level twisting.

  63. 63.

    The Simp in the Suit

    October 6, 2017 at 6:03 pm

    @Rihilsim: African or European?

  64. 64.

    Mike in NC

    October 6, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    @dmsilev: Obviously tossing rolls of paper towels to moochers in Puerto Rico didn’t resonate with his Neanderthal base.

  65. 65.

    ThresherK

    October 6, 2017 at 6:05 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Oh, I do mean it that way. On my tablet punctuation is a problem, and if theres is any site that known my deadpan typing, it’s this place.

  66. 66.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 6, 2017 at 6:06 pm

    @efgoldman: Especially when the “President” is himself a lone wolf.

  67. 67.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    @dmsilev: I would not like to live in that town where peacocks run the joint. Nasty birds.

  68. 68.

    trollhattan

    October 6, 2017 at 6:08 pm

    @MomSense:
    Impossible to not read that as “full mudmammas.”

  69. 69.

    Patricia Kayden

    October 6, 2017 at 6:09 pm

    @Baud: Although the economy did lose 33,000 jobs — possibly because of all the hurricanes. First time in years that that has happened.

  70. 70.

    rikyrah

    October 6, 2017 at 6:11 pm

    Thank You, Massa Bernie: How Our Revolution’s Birmingham “Victory” Reeks of Racism and Sexism

    …………………………………………………….

    Despite the narrative clearly being false as demonstrated by Our
    Revolution’s abysmal track record, it also damages Randall Woodfin
    himself. It’s saying that Woodfin cannot win in the South without Bernie Sanders’ help. It’s saying that Woodfin cannot win without an Ohio State Senator like Nina Turner coming to stump for him. It’s saying that Woodfin would not have won had it not been for the “hundreds” of calls made by Our Revolution, an organization with a base largely made up of affluent, suburban White members. It’s saying that Woodfin cannot win on his own charisma and his own organizing in his very own backyard. It’s saying that a Black progressive like Woodfin cannot win based on his
    merits alone.

    Because his merits are not enough. It’s not enough
    to be a Black progressive in the South. It’s not enough to be an
    attorney and School Board member in the state’s largest city. It’s not
    enough to have worked 80+ hour weeks for half a year to serve as a state campaign director for Hillary Clinton. It’s not enough to have
    campaigned for over a year and assembled a dedicated and committed volunteer base on your own. No, you need help to be successful. You need Our Revolution and you need Bernie Sanders.

    Nowhere over the past two days has there been a single substantial article about Woodfin’s campaign experience. It’s as if being Hillary Clinton’s state director in no way prepared him for his mayoral bid. Nothing about identifying leaders. Nothing about finding organizers. Nothing about recruiting volunteers. Nothing about canvassing and Get Out The Vote efforts. Apparently, none of what he learned from his experience as a paid member of Hillary Clinton’s staff helped him in any way unseat a two-term incumbent Democratic Mayor who had been a staple in Birmingham politics over the past quarter-century. But Nina Turner showed up twice,
    Bernie Sanders recorded a single robo-call, and Our Revolution made a few hundred calls. Clearly, Woodfin would have lost had it not been for them.

    And that is why Our Revolution and our media cannot be
    trusted. They are looking for victories, real or imagined. Rather than
    delving into Woodfin’s experiences as a state director, the media and Our Revolution are instead proclaiming Bernie Sanders to be the White, male savior of the South.
    Let’s be clear: Sanders had as much to do with Woodfin’s victory as you or I. He is not popular in Alabama. He lost the primary by a whopping 58%. There’s a reason he stayed up north rather than campaigning with Woodfin. Hillary Clinton actually did have something to do with Woodfin’s victory, but she knows this race wasn’t about her. It was about Randall Woodfin and Randall Woodfin alone.

  71. 71.

    Miss Bianca

    October 6, 2017 at 6:13 pm

    @trollhattan: Damned if I know. I never read him at all if I can help it, so I have no gauge to judge how spittle-flecked this particular rant was in regard to his usual fare. if I had to venture a guess, I’d say that it was the chance to paint Hefner as some sort of “liberal” that was getting him hard (in a completely metaphorical, godly, righteous, non-slutty way, of course).

  72. 72.

    Miss Bianca

    October 6, 2017 at 6:17 pm

    @rikyrah: I’m really starting to like “The People’s View” – thanks for turning me on to this site!

  73. 73.

    JPL

    October 6, 2017 at 6:19 pm

    @rikyrah: I want tweet number four..

  74. 74.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 6:22 pm

    @Cermet: It used to happen near our house in Maryland. Several hundred crows would take up residency behind our house near a stream.

    Haven’t seen it here. Not nearly as many crows here.

  75. 75.

    Catherine D.

    October 6, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    @rikyrah: Amen!

  76. 76.

    Jeffro

    October 6, 2017 at 6:23 pm

    @dmsilev: that’s correct – he is losing Republicans, bit by bit.

    On a cheerier note, private show w/ O.A.R. last night totally rawked…Seeing them again in Dec at that new Anthem club…woot!

  77. 77.

    Duane

    October 6, 2017 at 6:25 pm

    Did I see trump had nominated Sam Brownback to a “Defender of Religious Freedom” position in his administration? That would be wrong in so many ways, it can’t be true. I must have been dreaming, right?

  78. 78.

    Roger Moore

    October 6, 2017 at 6:26 pm

    @dmsilev:

    One town in the area has a large flock of feral peacocks wandering around.

    They’ve spread beyond Arcadia into East Pasadena and Monrovia. We even see them occasionally in Duarte, though not in flocks. Also, too, in addition to being very loud, peacocks are a traffic hazard and their poop is something else. I still think the parrots are worse, though.

  79. 79.

    janut

    October 6, 2017 at 6:27 pm

    @Rihilsim: A European starling or an African starling?

  80. 80.

    Elizabelle

    October 6, 2017 at 6:28 pm

    Hello buds. Bearfree, so far. @ Skyline Drive, Shenandoah Natl Park. Got one of the 3 last sites. Chilling down here. Leaves rustling in the wind. We have a firepit not far from my tent. No rain expected til Sunday. Clouding in. Have seen one blase deer.

    Cheers.

  81. 81.

    Smedley Darlington Prunebanks (Formerly Mumphrey, et al.)

    October 6, 2017 at 6:29 pm

    Yes, it’s one that’s perching on a wire.

    You’re welcome.

  82. 82.

    Elizabelle

    October 6, 2017 at 6:30 pm

    Ps. In Virginia. Am sure Helen is in Eire. Was just riffing off it was drinks o clock where she is.

    What are you all up to this weekend?

  83. 83.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 6:31 pm

    @Elizabelle: Are the leaves turning yet there?

  84. 84.

    Duane

    October 6, 2017 at 6:36 pm

    @mdblanche: We’ve got a starling. Anyone got a curtain rod?

  85. 85.

    A Ghost to Most

    October 6, 2017 at 6:38 pm

    According to The New Yorker, the bad blood between the head of the State Department and his top overseas emissary has to do with the latter’s success in Asian diplomacy.

    In spite of Tillerson infamous inability to fully staff the State Department and Trump’s tense relationship with China amid his threats to North Korea, Haley is “seen as the most effective diplomat in the crisis,” the New Yorker reported.

    “The most significant achievement of Trump’s foreign policy—the tightening of economic sanctions against North Korea—was accomplished largely by Haley,” the report continued.

    “Nikki’s getting it done,” a senior Trump administration official told the magazine of Haley’s United Nations wins.

    Tillerson, on the other hand, was angered by his subordinate’s propensity for “bringing home the bacon.”

    “Rex hates her,” the same official said. “He f*cking hates her.”

    Latest Hunger Games update.

  86. 86.

    Elizabelle

    October 6, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: a lil bit, but they’re dry. Dust around here. Concerned we will have a muted fall. Usually 3 weeks from peak now.

  87. 87.

    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2017 at 6:40 pm

    @Jeffro: Hey, Jeffro Mensch. It’s another Friday night. Whattaya got for us?

  88. 88.

    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 6:43 pm

    @A Ghost to Most:

    White dude who’s skated by on his riches hates a woman of color who’s actually doing her job?

    This is my shocked face.

  89. 89.

    Elizabelle

    October 6, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    Re starlings. Same screenwriter who won Oscar wrote Red Dragon (prequel that followed) too. I really like Dragon. Great cast. Never saw Manhunter or whatever.

    Screenwriter passed on the Hannibal novel, as did Demme. Too dark. I thought Hannibal ventured into p or no of a sort. Too ugly and gratuitous. Dont know if TV series tracks the novel or not.

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    hedgehog mobile

    October 6, 2017 at 6:44 pm

    Mr. h snd I are seeing Blade Runner 2049 at our local Alamo tonight.

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    Rihilism

    October 6, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @The Simp in the Suit: @janut: Regardless, the starling may fly south with the sun or the house martin or the plover may seek warmer climes in winter, yet these are not strangers to our land…

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    Fair Economist

    October 6, 2017 at 6:47 pm

    @Roger Moore: We have lots of wild parrots around here (Orange County). They can be loud, but I don’t find them particularly annoying. Living next door to pet peacocks was worse, and that’s without dealing with peacock poop.

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    Davebo

    October 6, 2017 at 6:53 pm

    Anyone see this?

    Will Liberals Give Weinstein the O’Reilly Treatment?

    I have no idea what they were asking but this at the end referencing Camille Paglia was just amazing.

    In her interview, Ms. Paglia noted that, the case of Mr. Clinton, “Hypocrisy by partisan feminist leaders really destroyed feminism for a long time.” She might have added that it also helped Donald Trump get elected

    An editor with the FYNYT’s and a female at that had the balls to write that??

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 6:55 pm

    @Davebo: The NYT is garbage.

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    Yutsano

    October 6, 2017 at 6:57 pm

    @Davebo: Just what, pray tell, are they supposed to do with Weinstein? It’s my understanding he does his own fundraising/bundling himself. Are they supposed to give back his money? I haven’t heard what is supposed to be happening here.

    Also noted: no one mentioned in that column is defending Weinstein.

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    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 6:58 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    I got a weird feeling from Hannibal that novelist Thomas Harris got pissed off at Hollywood for making Anthony Hopkins’ Lecter too sympathetic, so he wrote the sequel as a dare for them to make it into a movie.

    I have absolutely no backup for this, it’s just a feeling I have.

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 6:59 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Several people are returning his donations.

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    @Duane: @Duane:

    He will be the Ambassador of Religious Freedom. Should set Christianity back a millennium or two.

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    Jeffro

    October 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    @Corner Stone: lol… indictments-wise? I can’t do nuttin’ for ya, man.

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    Betty Cracker

    October 6, 2017 at 7:00 pm

    @Elizabelle: I’ve camped in that area many times — it’s one of my favorite spots. Hope y’all have a lovely time!

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    efgoldman

    October 6, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Are they supposed to give back his money?

    Liz Warren and one other senator are sending all the campaign contributions they received from Weinstein to women’s non-profits.

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    Hungry Joe

    October 6, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    Until 10-20 years ago we rarely, if ever, saw crows in San Diego — you had to go inland and up, to the Cuyamacas or Palomar. Then there must’ve been a puff piece in “Crow Traveler” magazine saying that the eats were good in the city, because murder after murder got visas and moved in. I like crows, but the ones outside our window at daybreak make me contemplate buying a BB gun. (A BB would just bounce off a crow, but probably piss him off.)

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 7:02 pm

    @debbie: That’s exactly where they want Christianity to go.

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    Davebo

    October 6, 2017 at 7:04 pm

    @Baud: Or donating them to charity as I’ve read.

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    @Baud:

    Have at it, I say, just don’t drag me back there with them.

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 7:05 pm

    @Davebo: That’s probably what I read too. I got it wrong, I think.

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    SatanicPanic

    October 6, 2017 at 7:06 pm

    @trollhattan: I dunno, I lean towards Bill Clinton probably being some sort of rapist. The one good thing about Hillary losing is that I no longer feel compelled to talk around that. Dude had too many women accuse him of questionable behavior to think that he was on the up and up.

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @efgoldman:

    Harvey has long been known as a pig. A friend worked for him before he was famous, and he hasn’t changed one bit, from the stories I’m hearing.

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    SatanicPanic

    October 6, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @Davebo: Why Paglia is relevant to anything is beyond me. She’s such an idiot.

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    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 7:07 pm

    @Yutsano:

    Weinstein and his brother used to own Miramax, but they sold it to Disney and went out on their own over a decade ago. The Weinstein Company has struggled, except for the horror movie Dimension Pictures brand.

    In light of the recent news, I wonder if Weinstein was sent to internal exile in Hollywood because of his actions, and the news is only now becoming widely known. John Landis was similarly blackballed after his negligence killed three people on the set of Twilight Zone: the Movie in the 1980s.

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    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 7:10 pm

    @Hungry Joe:

    Don’t do it. If you hurt a crow, the rest of the flock will follow you around for months and harass you. They are scarily smart birds.

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    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 7:12 pm

    @Baud:

    I don’t blame them at all. I suspect it was one of those open Hollywood “secrets” that people outside the industry didn’t know about, but women inside the industry were probably warned away from working with him and he ended up blackballed for his behavior.

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 7:13 pm

    @SatanicPanic: The same reason they are all relevant: to talk shit about Democrats.

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    Roger Moore

    October 6, 2017 at 7:14 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    If you hurt a crow, the rest of the flock will follow you around for months and harass you.

    This. Ornithologists say if you want to study nesting crows, you need to learn to disguise yourself, because they will recognize and harass anyone they see messing with their nests.

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    Miss Bianca

    October 6, 2017 at 7:17 pm

    @Elizabelle: I have no idea why I tried reading “Hannibal” one time…it was there? I was bored? I’d heard so many people rave about this author? I still have a bad taste in my brain.

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 7:24 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    I’ve read all three — the first two were far better than the third book. I can’t remember if it was Red Dragon or Silence of the Lambs, but at one point, I thought the author was really going too far and could be giving disturbed people ideas.

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    dmsilev

    October 6, 2017 at 7:30 pm

    @Mnemosyne: One of the stories I read (in the LA Times, I think) said that women working for him tended to set up a buddy system so that as much as possible they wouldn’t be alone with him. So, certainly people within his company knew, or at least suspected enough to take precautions.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 7:33 pm

    @Miss Bianca:

    it was there? I was bored?

    I once read a Stephen King short story collection (Night Shift) because the only works of fiction where I was staying were the King book and the The Irish RM. Once I finished the horsy stories, I had no choice.

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    Lyrebird

    October 6, 2017 at 7:34 pm

    @Fair Economist: Peacock calls sound like someone small in pain. Not sure I could get accustomed to it.

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    Roger Moore

    October 6, 2017 at 7:38 pm

    @Lyrebird:

    Peacock calls sound like someone small in pain.

    I think they sound more like a cross between a cat and a goose.

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    chris

    October 6, 2017 at 7:41 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Smells like Stephen Miller and friends.

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    Citizen Alan

    October 6, 2017 at 7:52 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    I can top that. One time I was stuck at my parents house for a week with no internet, and eventually out of sheer boredom, I hate-read the first four Left Behind novels.

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    Spanky

    October 6, 2017 at 7:53 pm

    @Elizabelle: Well, you can’t be at Big Meadows, because you’d need to go up to the lodge to get the repeater down in Stanley. But there are plenty of other campgrounds.

    I has a jealous (though I’d rather be at Dolly Sods). Have fun!

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 7:54 pm

    @Citizen Alan: You poor bastard.

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    Corner Stone

    October 6, 2017 at 7:57 pm

    @Citizen Alan: They didn’t have any canned goods with labels on them you could have read instead?

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    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 8:00 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Night Shift has some good stories in it.

    And then “Survivor Type” sends you in search of brain bleach, or a handy lobotomy.

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    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:02 pm

    @Citizen Alan: I read the first one.

    Very bad. Wasn’t a hate read to begin with, was just curious.

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    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:03 pm

    @Mnemosyne: yeah I was gonna say, some of King’s short fiction (like some of his long fiction) is quite good.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 8:04 pm

    @Mnemosyne: @Major Major Major Major: I remember it as well-written but not to my taste at all.

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    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:07 pm

    So I have the week between Christmas and New Years off because my workplace is excellent. I decided to take advantage of it this year and today my husband and I snagged a cheap flight to London, leaves on Christmas and returns January 8. So two weeks in Europe for a cost of 4 vacation days and a few hundred in airfare. Yay! Super excited.

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 8:09 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: That’s great. Lots to do there.

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 8:10 pm

    @chris:

    How cosmopolitan of you. ??

  133. 133.

    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 8:11 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Are you still moving to NYC?

  134. 134.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:12 pm

    @debbie: figure I’ll schedule some interviews in London while I’m there, but NYC next fall is the plan!

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 8:14 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Wow, nice choices!

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    debbie

    October 6, 2017 at 8:15 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Check out Roz Chast’s “Going into Town.” It’s making me miss NYC.

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    Mr Wu's Pigs

    October 6, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @Mnemosyne: I read that story, “Survivor Type” decades ago…I’m still creeped out…shudder!

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    eclare

    October 6, 2017 at 8:16 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Wonderful! I’ve been in London for New Year’s, enjoy!

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    chris

    October 6, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @debbie: Haha. There have been a couple of recent articles about Miller, what a nasty small man. The term “black identity extremist” sounds like something he would say while denying his own “white identity extremism.”

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    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @eclare: any tips?

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    Mnemosyne

    October 6, 2017 at 8:18 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Nice! G and I are contemplating taking our first international trip to London. We are not good travelers, so neither of us has been any further away than Hawaii.

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    eclare

    October 6, 2017 at 8:20 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Oh gosh…that was back in 1996, ended up living there for six months. If you go out, just plan on staying out til way past midnight, it was hard to get back. The streets were lovely, still lit up for Christmas. I remember eating at an amazing Lebanese place, I’ll look around on google and see if I can remember the name.

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    Hungry Joe

    October 6, 2017 at 8:24 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Oh, I wouldn’t actually ping a crow with a BB gun — I just said I was contemplating it. I do about 1/80th of the stuff I contemplate.

    I read somewhere (Konrad Lorenz?) that once crows peg you as dangerous they not only pass the info along to other crows by going batshit (crowshit?) whenever they see you, but their offspring pick up on it, and their offspring, forever. You have to absent yourself from the area long enough for a whole generation of crows to die off before you can come back and not be tagged as a bad guy. That’s probably an over-the-top story (Konrad Lorenz, after all), but I like it A LOT.

  144. 144.

    eclare

    October 6, 2017 at 8:26 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Go while you are young, foreign countries don’t have the ADA. I don’t understand how older people live in London. You can see the US when you are older.

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    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:29 pm

    @eclare: yeah, I remember they had good middle eastern food last time I was there…

    And real easy to get lost!

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    eclare

    October 6, 2017 at 8:32 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: You’ll appreciate this, because Samwise, I lived in a Mews when I was there! #3C Chilworth Mews.

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    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 8:35 pm

    @eclare: ha!

    Oh crap, I should start looking for a cat-sitter.

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    Betty Cracker

    October 6, 2017 at 8:41 pm

    @Hungry Joe: Sounds like crows are the Irish of the ornithological world!

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    delk

    October 6, 2017 at 8:42 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: My husband and I have done Christmas and New years in London twice. Should be odd this year with no Big Ben* to ring in the year.

    *It is being restored.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 8:43 pm

    @eclare: We were nearly neighbors. I lived at 16 Westbourne St.

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    eclare

    October 6, 2017 at 8:46 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Wow, just googled. I’m sure I walked by that place on the way to Hyde Park many times. Such a tiny world!

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    Amir Khalid

    October 6, 2017 at 8:49 pm

    @Citizen Alan:
    Don’t tell me their titles, let me guess: Left Behind, Right Behind, Kiss My Behind, and In From Behind.

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    Baud

    October 6, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    @Amir Khalid: I think at least one of those is a porn movie.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 8:50 pm

    @eclare: It was a great location. Less than a block to a stop on the Central Line and not too far to Paddington for the rest. Right by the park and several good pubs in the area.

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    efgoldman

    October 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    For pure entertainment value, there’s something to be said for a game between couple of mediocre unranked teams.

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    Steeplejack (phone)

    October 6, 2017 at 8:51 pm

    @debbie:

    There is a Law and Order: Criminal Intent episode from 2008, “Contract,” which might as well have been called “The Harvey Weinstein Story.” Jeff Garlin in a spot-on bit of casting.

  157. 157.

    Pluky

    October 6, 2017 at 9:07 pm

    @Betty Cracker: Have you heard of The Morrigan?

  158. 158.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 9:09 pm

    @Pluky: corvids are cool.

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    eclare

    October 6, 2017 at 9:13 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Chose my place specifically to be close to Paddington.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 9:27 pm

    @eclare: I chose mine because my university had leased it as our London Centre.

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    J R in WV

    October 6, 2017 at 9:28 pm

    @Fair Economist:

    When we visited my cousin in Kona, Hawaii some time back, there were giant trucks running around the island advertising that they could get rid of the coqui frogs, which are the size of a dime coin (1.1 cm long) and make a tiny chirp. They are a national symbol of Puerto Rico, and treasured there.

    In Hawaii they are declared an invasive terroristic assault because of the horrendous noise they make. As if the nearly extinct native wildlife wouldn’t make any noise, if they weren’t nearly extinct!!! They are loud, especially when you consider how tiny they are. But still, exterminators for frogs, it just turns my stomach to think of it.

  162. 162.

    NotMax

    October 6, 2017 at 9:29 pm

    @Major Major Major Major

    Cuervos! Cuervos! Ree-yahh!

    /Netflix series Club de Cuervos reference

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    Gin & Tonic

    October 6, 2017 at 9:36 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Bring your wallet. London is expensive.

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    NotMax

    October 6, 2017 at 9:38 pm

    @J R in WV

    Invasive species are of real concern in Hawaii. Not only for noise but for eating native species and/or destroying or commandeering native species habitat or even attacking crops. Snakes and almost any insect are especially unwelcome. The coqui frogs also breed like kudzu grows.

    We did learn a lesson from the purposeful and boneheaded importation of the mongoose.

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    raven

    October 6, 2017 at 9:40 pm

    @NotMax: And the fucking eucalyptus.

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    NotMax

    October 6, 2017 at 9:42 pm

    @Major Major Major Major

    Bring lots of winter wear to put on or remove in layers. It’s cold then, and the Brits aren’t exactly known for indoor amenities such as central heating.

  167. 167.

    J R in WV

    October 6, 2017 at 9:50 pm

    @SatanicPanic:

    Bill Clinton is obviously a rapist, he’s been indicted, arrested, convicted so so many times. And Hillary is still hanging around with him, too. She must be a rapist as well.

    Do you have any clue how stupid you sound? The Republicans spent $40,000,000 on investigating the Clintons, and came up with exactly one consensual blowjob. The cost/benefit ratio there is wonderful!

    The Clintons are the cleanest couple in politics, to have been accused of so many high crimes and still, no trials, no convictions, walking around free and loved by so many liberals. Anyone who accuses Bill or Hillary of criminal actions should be put on trial for slander or libel, depending on how they propagate their slurs. There is no there there!

    So fuq you, Satanic Panic, for lying about things you have no way of knowing any facts regarding them. You’re on my pie filter now.

  168. 168.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 9:51 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: damn good exchange rate lately.

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    Omnes Omnibus

    October 6, 2017 at 9:52 pm

    @J R in WV: To be fair, I believe the record indicates multiple blowies.

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    Gin & Tonic

    October 6, 2017 at 9:53 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Even still.

  171. 171.

    NotMax

    October 6, 2017 at 9:55 pm

    @Major Major Major Major

    Used to be one got a marginally better exchange rate changing money here before leaving. Dunno if that still holds true.

    Flying into Heathrow or Gatwick?

    Oh, also might consider bringing a burner phone you can dump in the U.K. and leaving your regular one in SF.

  172. 172.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 10:00 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: just saying, I’m not gonna sneeze at their self-inflicted 15% discount.

  173. 173.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    @NotMax: I usually travel with an unlocked phone that I buy a SIM card for and can always wipe it on my way in.

    I usually just use credit cards and my bank pays all international ATM fees.

    Lastly, Heathrow.

  174. 174.

    J R in WV

    October 6, 2017 at 10:02 pm

    So far we’ve visited Spain, France and Italy. Not long in any of those places, but enjoyed all of them, except Florence in May was SO Crowded with tourists (like us!) you couldn’t stir them with a car. People walking in the middle of the street, with cars wanting to pass through.

    Rural Spain and France in October were wonderful. Paris was beautiful, but we were only there one day, my bad for not reserving a longer stay.

    I’m seeing the internet being really slow today, I don’t even get a chance to edit a post because it’s longer than 5 minutes for it to come back around. Seems like all the sites are a little slow, but B-J is worse than the others. Or maybe just my impatience?

  175. 175.

    Mohagan

    October 6, 2017 at 10:05 pm

    On the first Audubon bird walk I ever took, the leader pointed out a starling and added “stars on a starling”. I’ve never forgotten, and could ID a starling from Day 1 of my official birding :-)

  176. 176.

    NotMax

    October 6, 2017 at 10:06 pm

    @J R in WV

    A lot of the hamsters that power the internet scooted out early to get an extended holiday weekend.

    :)

  177. 177.

    Major Major Major Major

    October 6, 2017 at 10:13 pm

    @NotMax: speaking as one of the hamsters, guilty!

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    Arclite

    October 6, 2017 at 10:18 pm

    @Japa21:

    To be more precise I believe it is a European starling

    Do you know the airspeed velocity?

  179. 179.

    LaNonna

    October 7, 2017 at 12:36 am

    @MAJOR X4
    Yes, London is expensive, we ran around on the Oyster card for a week, including Underground from Heathrow into central city much cheaper than the Heathrow Express, an hour’s ride, but so what. Plan to spend at least a morning or afternoon at the Victoria & Albert museum, a treasure trove. Good prix-fixe restaurants near the Tate Modern. We traipsed from museum to museum, it was wonderful.

  180. 180.

    WhyKnot241

    October 7, 2017 at 12:43 pm

    Like a bird on a wire
    Like some drunk in a midnight choir
    I have tried
    In my way
    To be free

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