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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Russiagate Open Thread: Forget the Sex Worker — Who Was Selling Trump’s “Access”?

Russiagate Open Thread: Forget the Sex Worker — Who Was Selling Trump’s “Access”?

by Anne Laurie|  March 25, 201811:08 pm| 99 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Excellent Links, Hail to the Hairpiece, Open Threads, Republican Venality, Russiagate

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NEW: TRUMP fundraiser @Elliott_Broidy offered or arranged meetings with @POTUS for leaders of Congo, Angola & Romania — while pursuing lucrative defense contracts with those countries. https://t.co/KDsD9i4zH5

— Kenneth P. Vogel (@kenvogel) March 26, 2018

Cash Rules EveryONE Around Him… dolla-dolla, y’all, get th’ money:

For Elliott Broidy, Donald J. Trump’s presidential campaign represented an unparalleled political and business opportunity.

An investor and defense contractor, Mr. Broidy became a top fund-raiser for Mr. Trump’s campaign when most elite Republican donors were keeping their distance, and Mr. Trump in turn overlooked the lingering whiff of scandal from Mr. Broidy’s 2009 guilty plea in a pension fund bribery case.

After Mr. Trump’s election, Mr. Broidy quickly capitalized, marketing his Trump connections to politicians and governments around the world, including some with unsavory records, according to interviews and documents obtained by The New York Times. Mr. Broidy suggested to clients and prospective customers of his Virginia-based defense contracting company, Circinus, that he could broker meetings with Mr. Trump, his administration and congressional allies.

Mr. Broidy’s ability to leverage his political connections to boost his business illuminates how Mr. Trump’s unorthodox approach to governing has spawned a new breed of access peddling in the swamp he vowed to drain.

Mr. Broidy offered tickets to V.I.P. inauguration events, including a candlelight dinner attended by Mr. Trump, to a Congolese strongman accused of funding a lavish lifestyle with public resources. He helped arrange a meeting with Republican senators and offered a trip to Mar-a-Lago, the president’s private Florida resort, for an Angolan politician. And he arranged an invitation to a party at Mr. Trump’s Washington hotel for a Romanian parliamentarian facing corruption charges, who posted a photograph with the president on Facebook…

As with so many other political conventions, Mr. Trump has upended the traditional system of access to the president, among the most prized chits in Washington. That is partly because of lax vetting that has allowed largely unfettered access to Mr. Trump and his White House by loyalists, friends and hangers-on with their own policy agendas or business interests.

But it is also because few of Washington’s established lobbyists have close connections to the president. In their place, a new class of insider has emerged, able to lobby the president directly on behalf of clients or business partners, an uncommon opportunity in prior administrations, when lobbyists focused on winning support from lawmakers or regulators…

So, expect a lot of words to be spewed tomorrow about how “our” poor, naive businessman-president allowed himself to be taken advantage of by sweet-talking Beltway lobbyists. Because this will presumably sell better to Trump’s in-every-sense-Base than the alternate understanding that Donny Dollhands has never not been for sale to the highest bidder, no minimum reserve.

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  1. 1.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    March 25, 2018 at 11:11 pm

    We have finally found the adult in the room

  2. 2.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 25, 2018 at 11:13 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Doesn’t load.

  3. 3.

    Raoul

    March 25, 2018 at 11:16 pm

    After 8 years of Obama running a remarkably clean ship, it’s almost as if a significant part of Washington forgot that venal, corrupt politics is the norm. Here. Abroad. Everywhere.

  4. 4.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    March 25, 2018 at 11:16 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: “Mattis has ignored McMaster’s requests for military options that would have allowed the U.S. to strike Eastern Gouta, in Syria, as well as requests to see plans on North Korea, and two requests for options to strike Iran[.]”

    Here’s the Politico story.

  5. 5.

    efgoldman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:18 pm

    Next weekend, granddaughter is being taken to her first cosplay convention in DC. This is the character she has chosen.

  6. 6.

    NotMax

    March 25, 2018 at 11:21 pm

    Political reacharound.

  7. 7.

    guachi

    March 25, 2018 at 11:24 pm

    I don’t believe there are any adults in the room.

  8. 8.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 25, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): what’s that Onion headline, something like Only Remaining Adult In Administration Named “Mad Dog”

  9. 9.

    Yutsano

    March 25, 2018 at 11:26 pm

    @efgoldman: Ooh…I love that! Will there be many pictures forthcoming?

    Speaking of conventions, my younger nephew is extremely popular at these things. True he is quite social and (mostly) well-behaved in public. But putting someone named Jean-Luc in front of a bunch of sci-fi nerds? He’s like candy.

  10. 10.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    March 25, 2018 at 11:29 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: If it keeps it more lol than sob, that’s a troop-bestowed sobriquet he apparently doesn’t care much for.

    ETA: That’s exactly the headline.

  11. 11.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    March 25, 2018 at 11:30 pm

    @efgoldman:

    My daughter, who is a bit gender-fluid, cosplays a lot (choosing male characters half the time). She has a lot of fun and is learning some useful skills.

    I think it all started with Miyazaki.

  12. 12.

    Mary G

    March 25, 2018 at 11:32 pm

    @Raoul:

    After 8 years of Obama running a remarkably clean ship, it’s almost as if a significant part of Washington Republicans forgot that venal, corrupt politics is the norm. Here. Abroad. Everywhere.

    Fixt it for ya.

  13. 13.

    NotMax

    March 25, 2018 at 11:32 pm

    @efgoldman

    CQ* of the room will be upped significantly.
     
     

    *cuteness quotient

  14. 14.

    PJ

    March 25, 2018 at 11:38 pm

    @Mary G: @Raoul: You’re kidding, right? Venality and corruption have been the name of the game for Republicans at least since Reagan started selling weapons to the Iranians, and the level of chutzpah has only increased with each administration.

  15. 15.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 25, 2018 at 11:40 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): A Politico story? Really?

  16. 16.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 25, 2018 at 11:40 pm

    @PJ: yeah I don’t really get what Raoul is trying to say

  17. 17.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): That’s actually a very good article.

  18. 18.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:41 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Here you go:

    “Mattis has ignored McMaster’s requests for military options that would have allowed the U.S. to strike Eastern Gouta, in Syria, as well as requests to see plans on North Korea, and two requests for options to strike Iran” https://t.co/PxeanYxrLJ

    — Kingston Reif (@KingstonAReif) March 25, 2018

  19. 19.

    rikyrah

    March 25, 2018 at 11:42 pm

    @efgoldman:
    Beautiful, but strong ??

  20. 20.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:44 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Actually it isn’t troop bestowed. His Marines called him the Warrior Monk. He prefers CHAOS, which stands for colonel has an optimum solution.

  21. 21.

    Bruuuuce

    March 25, 2018 at 11:45 pm

    I happened to be tangent to a great story today, and wanted the Jackals to hear it.

    An artist, TL Duryea, was so inspired by Naomi Wadler’s speech at the March for Our Lives in Washington that she painted her (link to FB post).

    My better half knows Ms Duryea, and also knew (because I’d told her) that Naomi is the niece of a friend of mine. When M saw the painting finished today, we were in the car on the Brooklyn-Queens Expressway, on our way home from a friend’s funeral. She planned to link the painting for my friend when we got home, and in a private conversation, was told that the artist wanted to offer the painting to Naomi and family.

    When we got home, she got on the laptop to do that, and voila! a heretofore-unknown OTHER connection had not only posted the painting for my friend, but obtained and passed on the offer. As of now, I don’t have any source as to whether the family has accepted the offer of the original; I hope they accept, as it’s quite the work in my not-humble opinion.

    This is a case where, if you read the FB thread, the comments are not toxic, as they ought not to be, for this awesome young lady and for the art she inspired.

  22. 22.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 25, 2018 at 11:45 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: nope, apparently we aren’t allowed to use any information gleaned from that publication.

  23. 23.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:46 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It is actually quite good.

  24. 24.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    March 25, 2018 at 11:47 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: It’s gotten much better with the departure of the Allen/VandeHei team. It still features the odd Villager toolishness, but Shafer & Lowry are really the only consistently bad columnists Politico regularly publishes.
    @Adam L Silverman: The original comment was said more in despair than disbelief. Though it makes sense – the actual adult in the room generally won’t seek out a reputation as the “adult in the room” (in point of fact I’d assumed he’d died/resigned/was on permanent vacation without telling anybody).

  25. 25.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:49 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): He’s an interesting character.

  26. 26.

    Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD)

    March 25, 2018 at 11:51 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Apparently the LA Times said his troops called him “Mad Dog” behind his back and the nickname just stuck.

    Still, though: “Only Force for Stability in Administration Named ‘CHAOS’.”

  27. 27.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 25, 2018 at 11:51 pm

    @Adam L Silverman: Are these requests that could come from a bat-shit insane White House?

  28. 28.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 25, 2018 at 11:54 pm

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): I mean it still works.

  29. 29.

    Mnemosyne

    March 25, 2018 at 11:54 pm

    @Bruuuuce:

    One of the ways I know I’ve been in Hollywood for a while is that I saw the phrase “passed on the offer” and assumed that meant that the other party had turned down (passed on) the painting on behalf of the family. Took me a couple of readings to figure it out. ?

    It is a lovely painting, though. I hope the family is able to accept it.

  30. 30.

    Mnemosyne

    March 25, 2018 at 11:56 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    The magazine is quite good and does their research. Their spot news still leans Republican.

  31. 31.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 25, 2018 at 11:57 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: I think a request for courses of action for strikes in eastern Gouta would be legitimate requests regardless of who was president right now given where we have troops in contact in Syria. The others are, in my professional estimation, not something that need to be made now. With one caveat: if the purpose is to demonstrate to the President that there are no good outcomes for any military courses of action we might take in regard to the DPRK or Iran.

  32. 32.

    Bruuuuce

    March 25, 2018 at 11:59 pm

    @Mnemosyne: When and if I hear something, I’ll pass along the news. Until then, I’m still in recovery mode from the weekend (awesome Saturday, bummer Sunday) and trying not to get all the eejits get me down.

  33. 33.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 25, 2018 at 11:59 pm

    @Mnemosyne: the important thing is to be aware of a publication or writer’s bias and read critically.

  34. 34.

    Boussinesque

    March 26, 2018 at 12:00 am

    @efgoldman: nice! Good character in the iconic White Mage outfit for the series. Hope she has a blast!

  35. 35.

    Mike J

    March 26, 2018 at 12:00 am

    @Raoul:

    venal, corrupt politics is the norm. Here. Abroad. Everywhere.

    Bullshit. I know plenty of politicians and none of them are crooked. Cynicism is a tool to suppress votes.

  36. 36.

    Major Major Major Major

    March 26, 2018 at 12:03 am

    @efgoldman: @Boussinesque: oh that was a fun game. I liked the treasure hunting.

  37. 37.

    Omnes Omnibus

    March 26, 2018 at 12:05 am

    @Mike J: Yes. Cynicism is a weapon of the powerful.

  38. 38.

    John Revolta

    March 26, 2018 at 12:07 am

    This is the way I read it too. Poker term……….. “I’ll pass”.

  39. 39.

    Brachiator

    March 26, 2018 at 12:15 am

    Because this will presumably sell better to Trump’s in-every-sense-Base than the alternate understanding that Donny Dollhands has never not been for sale to the highest bidder, no minimum reserve.

    Stormy Daniels is a p0rn star. Donald Trump is a whore.

  40. 40.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:15 am

    Lot of Executive Time scheduled for tomorrow!

    President's public schedule for Monday begins at 11:30 and ends at 12:30 pic.twitter.com/4UDKC7QPN2

    — West Wing Reports (@WestWingReport) March 26, 2018

  41. 41.

    Mike J

    March 26, 2018 at 12:16 am

    Daniel Kibblesmith ☃️ @kibblesmith 1d
    Half of all guns are owned by 3% of Americans. That’s roughly 9.75 million people.

    The AMC Theaters rewards program has 10 million members.

    Your kids’ lives are subsidizing a doomsday cult smaller than the group who gets popcorn upgrades at Black Panther.

  42. 42.

    Kelly

    March 26, 2018 at 12:18 am

    @efgoldman: I explained to my 4 year old granddaughter this afternoon that her street was white with flower petals not snow. She found that even more wondrous and exciting.

  43. 43.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:20 am

    @Brachiator: Avenatti isn’t playing to the President’s base, he’s trying to bait and trap the President and Michael Cohen.
    The NY Daily News is trying to help:

    "I was like, turn around, drop 'em." https://t.co/WIb0LeANyU

    An early look at Monday's front… pic.twitter.com/fsdFHoc4KA

    — New York Daily News (@NYDailyNews) March 26, 2018

  44. 44.

    NotMax

    March 26, 2018 at 12:22 am

    @Adam L. Silverman

    Work, work, work, work.
      – Gov. William J. Le Petomane

  45. 45.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:24 am

    @NotMax: From all reports he had dinner at Mar a Lago with Cohen last night. By the time he gets back to DC from Florida he should be fully cooked.

  46. 46.

    Brachiator

    March 26, 2018 at 12:28 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Avenatti isn’t playing to the President’s base, he’s trying to bait and trap the President and Michael Cohen.

    He certainly appears to be ready to go up against Trump. And he may pack a hell of a punch. Liked this piece supposedly from a politico story.

    Avenatti: “I would prefer to litigate against high-quality lawyers as opposed to low-quality lawyers.” Asked if Michael Cohen is a low-quality lawyer, he fell silent. 10 seconds ticked by. 15. “I’m thinking,” Avenatti said. Then, finally: “No comment.”

  47. 47.

    SWMBO

    March 26, 2018 at 12:29 am

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): Fathom Events is showing Ponyo this week. They showed it today ( Sunday) at 12:55. It shows again March 26 and March 28.

  48. 48.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 26, 2018 at 12:30 am

    @NotMax: Gotta have time for “the shows”.

  49. 49.

    Amir Khalid

    March 26, 2018 at 12:31 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    The mind boggles. How does the President survive such a punishing workload?

  50. 50.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:33 am

    Looks like they still don’t have the targeting software on the Patriots dialed in correctly. You’d think after almost 20 years they could debug those things:

    BREAKING: More footage from #Saudi tonight.

    This one seems to confirm my last tweet. American Patriot air defence missile seems to fail and crash in a residential area inside Riyadh. pic.twitter.com/ERRLbP2uyF

    — Haidar Sumeri (@IraqiSecurity) March 25, 2018

  51. 51.

    SWMBO

    March 26, 2018 at 12:33 am

    @Adam L Silverman: It takes that long to diaper and dress him?! What a world….

  52. 52.

    cain

    March 26, 2018 at 12:35 am

    @Brachiator:
    What did I say about the power of silence about a couple of threads back? :D

  53. 53.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:39 am

    @Brachiator: The President is not sending his best.

  54. 54.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:39 am

    @Amir Khalid: I do not know.

  55. 55.

    Bruuuuce

    March 26, 2018 at 12:39 am

    @Adam L Silverman: It took a moment, until I scrolled far enough down, to realize those were Patriot missiles and not the football team (which I thought might have been getting pushback from the ammosexual crowd for having loaned their jet to the March for Our Lives organizers’ trip to Washington). Sad that the missiles are still unreliable

  56. 56.

    Gelfling 545

    March 26, 2018 at 12:41 am

    @Amir Khalid: He’s always claiming to be the first to do something others have done routinely & without comment. Here’s a real first for him: first president to be better rested on leaving office than on beginning it.

  57. 57.

    Raoul

    March 26, 2018 at 12:48 am

    @PJ: I’m not kidding about the absurdly short memories, no.
    Dubya has been resuscitated to an alarming degree, despite his many scandals and tons of incompetence.

  58. 58.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    March 26, 2018 at 12:49 am

    @Gelfling 545: No, that was Reagan.

  59. 59.

    sukabi

    March 26, 2018 at 12:49 am

    @Adam L Silverman: he got back to the WH a bit ago…had a sullen ‘walk of shame’

    Video at link

  60. 60.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:50 am

    @Bruuuuce: 1 dead, 2 injured. In Iraq they’d lock on to our fighter jets because their targeting software couldn’t discriminate between the profiles on the radar returns. They supposedly fixed that in 2005 or 2006. But no matter what anyone says with these things, the physics are still about trying to hit a bullet with a bullet. My understanding is that Israel’s Iron Dome and Jericho batteries only really work when they can fix on the target from the side, not head on.

  61. 61.

    Bruuuuce

    March 26, 2018 at 12:56 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    trying to hit a bullet with a bullet

    I’m only an educated layman, but ISTM that it’s easier to make their bullet hit our cloud of shrapnel or other such. Has that approach been tried and found wanting (too little contact, too hard to sustain the cloud or time its creation, too hard to place well, too much damage when it inevitably falls)?

  62. 62.

    Mnemosyne

    March 26, 2018 at 12:57 am

    @Brachiator:

    IANAL, but it does seem like Avanetti is trying to get Cohen to make a stupid move of some kind. Watching him on “60 Minutes,” he seemed kind of pissed that Cohen and Trump are trying to ruin Daniels over a $130,000 payout.

    Also, as a layperson, I was unaware that having an NDA could compel someone to actively lie about what they knew rather than just refusing to comment, but that seems to be part of Daniels’ claim about the advice she got from her previous lawyers.

  63. 63.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 12:59 am

    @Bruuuuce: You’re asking the wrong guy. I know very little about the actual technical details of how this stuff should work. I just pay attention to the reports about the failures. I pay attention to that because I think far too much stock is placed into these systems as they currently work, and will work for the foreseeable future. This creates a false sense of security, which can lead to bad decision making under the false assumption that we have tech that works and will protect us from a missile attack.

    If Cheryl’s about you may want to ask her. She’s likely to know much more about this than I do.

  64. 64.

    Bruuuuce

    March 26, 2018 at 1:04 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Thanks. If I get a chance (after doing some actual research), I may.

    Re the false sense of security and bad decision making, GIGO. Except for the yutz at the top, who apparently thinks we have Wonder Woman tech for our “invisible” fighters.

  65. 65.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 1:06 am

    @Mnemosyne: We now know that her previous lawyers had a previous connection to Cohen. Specifically the one who came to her with the pitch to take the money not to talk is the same guy that brought the National Enquirer pitch to talk to MacDougal. Basically they were running a scam where the lawyer supposedly working for Daniels and MacDougal was really working with Cohen.
    https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/stormymat-or-why-did-stormy-and-2nd-trump-girlfriend-have-ndas-negotiated-by-the-same-lawyer

    3. Note that Daniels’ then lawyer apparently had much more lucrative offers to tell her story but directed her toward the deal with Michael Cohen. Give that Karen McDougal and Daniels both ended up with the same lawyer, there’s now lots of evidence suggesting that the lawyer was actually in cahoots with Cohen. That’s a big no no in terms of holding on to your license to practice law.

  66. 66.

    Sister Golden Bear

    March 26, 2018 at 1:11 am

    @Adam L Silverman: Counting down to the early morning rage tweet storm….

    I suspect Daniels’ statement that she wasn’t attracted to him at all, ever, will be something that his ego won’t be able to ignore.

  67. 67.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 1:13 am

    @Sister Golden Bear: Most likely.

  68. 68.

    Mnemosyne

    March 26, 2018 at 1:22 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    That might go quite a ways in explaining why Avenetti seems to be so pissed about this whole thing. Lawyers really hate it when other lawyers betray their own clients.

  69. 69.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 1:24 am

    @Mnemosyne: It’s beyond that. Her original lawyer, who was, apparently, also MacDougal’s original lawyer, really wasn’t either one’s lawyer. Rather he was working for and with Cohen.

  70. 70.

    efgoldman

    March 26, 2018 at 1:37 am

    @Adam L Silverman:

    Rather he was working for and with Cohen.

    Has he been disbarred and jailed yet?

  71. 71.

    jl

    March 26, 2018 at 1:45 am

    @efgoldman: Shouldn’t ‘he’ be ‘they’?

    It’s in cases like this that I am that IANAL. I don’t understand why this supposed NDA agreement is taken seriously by anybody. How can it stand up a second in court? Daniels had already talked about the affair in an interview back in 2010 or 2011, right? So, after talking, she’s supposed to deny it? Or ust stand mute? The thing was corrupt plot by two corrupt lawyers who were working together behind her back. And the dope Cohen violated it himself, for no apparent reason I can see, other than that he is a stupid thug who does things like that for no reason.

    Why did the idiot Trump want to do the damned thing in the first place? He’d already survived the tape that had him bragging about sexual assault, didn’t he? Maybe not, I don’t have time to go look it up.

    but just going on those three issues I mentioned, why is Daniel’s lawyer even going through the motions of taking it seriously as a legitimate legal document?

  72. 72.

    Adam L Silverman

    March 26, 2018 at 1:47 am

    @efgoldman: @jl: Not yet. Avenatti is making it clear that he expects sanctions against these guys. Both from their state bar associations and criminal as well.

  73. 73.

    SiubhanDuinne

    March 26, 2018 at 2:07 am

    @Bruuuuce:

    TL Duryea does beautiful portraiture. Thanks for the link. Was pleased to see, when I clicked on her page, that I also have a mutual friend with her. Say what you will about Facebook, these kinds of connections are what it does best.

  74. 74.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 2:28 am

    @sukabi:
    Could just be the light, but He’s looking really ragged and grey. Good.

  75. 75.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 2:30 am

    @Adam L Silverman:
    Holy shit! That looked terrifying. I hope no one was killed.

  76. 76.

    NotMax

    March 26, 2018 at 2:35 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    “Vunce zey go up who cares vhere zey come down? Zat’s not my department, says Werner von Braun.”

  77. 77.

    sukabi

    March 26, 2018 at 2:45 am

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: yep. He’ll be up all night fuming…don’t think he’ll make it passed 6am before he tweets his impotent rage.

    Bet he fires someone via tweet before Wednesday.

  78. 78.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 2:46 am

    @NotMax:
    Heh. I would think Herr Hitler would care, Von Braun.

  79. 79.

    NotMax

    March 26, 2018 at 2:55 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    Just in case you’re not familiar with the song (a classic from way before your time).

  80. 80.

    Bennett

    March 26, 2018 at 2:57 am

    Why does the New York Times say trump is “unconventional” when the correct descriptor is “corrupt”?

  81. 81.

    NotMax

    March 26, 2018 at 3:00 am

    @Bennett

    They neglected to switch off autokowtow?

  82. 82.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 3:03 am

    @Bennett:
    Because the NYT is staffed with idiots, fellow travelers, and clueless Villagers. That’s why.

  83. 83.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 3:05 am

    @NotMax:
    I heard of Lehrer before. Vatican Rag is one I’ve listened too.

  84. 84.

    Yutsano

    March 26, 2018 at 3:06 am

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: I keep saying over and over he’s looking worse. I think if not for his genetic tendencies he would have stroked out by now.

  85. 85.

    NotMax

    March 26, 2018 at 3:15 am

    @Yutsano

    Maybe a flunky will ‘accidentally’ turn the tanning bed up to 11.

  86. 86.

    Amir Khalid

    March 26, 2018 at 3:23 am

    @Yutsano:
    There’s still time for Trump to have that stroke. He can get doctors like Bornstein and Jackson to give him a bullshit clean bill of health, but he can’t get Mother Nature to spare him the consequences of a lifetime of bad habits.

  87. 87.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 3:23 am

    @Yutsano:
    I was worried he wasn’t going to age like the presidency normally causes someone to since he spends so much time screwing around. Between his golf trips to Mar-a-go-fuck-yourself and “Executive Time” when he is at the White House (which he called a dump by the way) as well as his obsession with his self-image, I thought he would stay “fresher” than he looks now.

  88. 88.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 3:29 am

    @Amir Khalid:
    Are you saying a Member of the Armed Forces might have lied about the President’s health?

  89. 89.

    NotMax

    March 26, 2018 at 3:32 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    In some cases it comes on suddenly. As Charles Coburn said to his playboy-about-town son David Niven in the movie Bachelor Mother, “I was like that at your age. Then one day I woke up and looked like this.”

    :)

  90. 90.

    Amir Khalid

    March 26, 2018 at 4:04 am

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?:
    I’m not saying Rear Admiral Jackson’s report was a lie. I’m saying it was bullshit.

  91. 91.

    ? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?

    March 26, 2018 at 4:17 am

    @Amir Khalid:
    I was being facetious. I know the guy was appointed by Bush, but why would he attempt to mislead the public? The best (as in the most charitable) interpretation would be to protect the President and project a strong image to the rest of the world. IOW, the medical report of the POTUS as presented to the press, has always been kabuki theatre bs.

  92. 92.

    Gvg

    March 26, 2018 at 6:11 am

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: my opinion is Trump has so much executive time because he doesn’t keep his word. There is no point in making a deal with him. Even being the last man to talk to him doesn’t really work because he also doesn’t actually know how things work nor does his staff and he can’t do what he promised. He is missing a lot of power through ignorance.
    In addition our system is meant to and does only work with some cooperation. We aren’t a dictatorship and other people have power too although they have to cooperate more, Congress, the military, the courts etc. he isn’t getting anywhere on his wall because even the republicans don’t want it. I think that other countries have found even the flattery of him doesn’t get results so they are going to Congress instead. trump is being ignored. He is lazy and old but normally every one would be finding ways to see the President because they wanted to so bad. It was that way at first with Trump, but now they have stopped because the results are useless.

  93. 93.

    cosima

    March 26, 2018 at 6:19 am

    @efgoldman: That looks like an excellent character. Wish it were a book series — sounds right up Little C’s road.

  94. 94.

    CarolDuhart2

    March 26, 2018 at 6:28 am

    @? ?? Goku (aka Amerikan Baka) ? ?: Guy’s in his fifties, needs to make it to retirement age. Being fired for unauthorized disclosure means he falls short, and ends up working at Inner City General for the last years of his working career with no pension.

    Besides, there can be two files: the first one the physician works off of, and the second report for public disclosure. Maybe it’s always been that way-JFK and LBJ weren’t the picture of health either. It’s just that Obama was so open and honest and frankly-healthy-so there was no reason not to disclose.

  95. 95.

    JR

    March 26, 2018 at 6:40 am

    @Mary G: How would they forget? That’s *their way of doing things*.

  96. 96.

    Woodrowfan

    March 26, 2018 at 7:10 am

    @Mnemosyne: and avoid the comments section….

  97. 97.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 26, 2018 at 7:26 am

    @Butthurt Jordan Trombone (fka XTPD): Oh, that guy is gonna love John Bolton.

  98. 98.

    Matt McIrvin

    March 26, 2018 at 7:28 am

    …I think when Mattis gets fired or quits–and I think that is coming soon–that’s when we really start to slide into mass catastrophe. He’s gonna get replaced by some Bush administration type like Paul Wolfowitz or Doug Feith. Or by, say, Sean Hannity.

  99. 99.

    J R in WV

    March 26, 2018 at 2:31 pm

    @Bennett:

    Because ownership and editorial control of the NYT content is evidently compelled to support right-wing politics no matter how stupid the RWNJ in question is.

    Hence we get collusion instead of criminal conspiracy, etc, etc.

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