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Horrorshow Open Thread: A Million Little Miniver Cheevys

by Anne Laurie|  September 18, 201812:24 am| 43 Comments

This post is in: domestic terrorists, Open Threads, Post-racial America, Republican Stupidity, Assholes, Bring on the Brawndo!

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Tucker Carlson was born the year of the killings by the Charles Manson cult.

The reported crime rate was 3680/100k, vs 2847 in 2016. Murder rate, 7.3/100k vs 5.3/100k.https://t.co/cCf8TWqSn9

— Jacob T. Levy (@jtlevy) September 15, 2018

Hey, look at Manson from Carlson’s point of view: A white guy with nothing but his own charisma and a big dream was able to rise to the top of an internationally known organization, get more cute white chicks than he had time for, make himself a permanent place in the history books.

Okay, maybe some of his publicity ideas were a little… in advance of their time. But you never saw Charles Manson whining about “oppression”, didja? He was a guy who saw a problem and took the initiative to solve it, without waiting around for the Nanny State to rescue him!

Of course, Carlson can’t actually remember Charles Manson’s ‘helter skelter’ — or much of anything about that period, or most of the rest of the history he’s lived through, if his words are any indication.

Why do so many white men, not all of them overprivileged halfwits like Tucker, assume they’d have been any happier in an era where they’d only have been competing against each other for the top slots?

I mean, sure, it would’ve cut the number of potential competitors down considerably, but does Tucker Carlson really assume his natural talents have been insufficiently rewarded even as it is?

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  1. 1.

    dmsilev

    September 18, 2018 at 12:32 am

    Well, back then the country had substantially less Tucker Carlson. You have to admit, that was better.

  2. 2.

    Mnemosyne

    September 18, 2018 at 12:32 am

    Tucker Carlson and I were born the same year, and yet I managed to figure out that the late 1960s and early 1970s were a pretty fucked-up time. I am just old enough to remember Patty Hearst being big news, though I was too young to understand why.

  3. 3.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 18, 2018 at 12:38 am

    Before Tucker was born we never locked our doors here in Southern California(the Manson Family being in the area may have also had something to do with that change).

    P.S. At the urging of my stepdaughter, the nurse, Madame and I got our flu shots this evening. I’m beginning to feel like crap.

  4. 4.

    FlyingToaster

    September 18, 2018 at 12:39 am

    Carlson’s got to be running a close second behind Jim Hoft.

  5. 5.

    ruemara

    September 18, 2018 at 12:45 am

    Why are these people so damned awful?

  6. 6.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 12:49 am

    @dmsilev:
    I thought it was spelled Fucker Carlson.

  7. 7.

    Jager

    September 18, 2018 at 12:50 am

    A guy I know used to run into Charlie Manson at a local café, usually at breakfast. He said Manson was “one weird son of a bitch who put a lot of syrup on his pancakes.”

  8. 8.

    Jerzy Russian

    September 18, 2018 at 12:56 am

    @Ruckus: Also, too, his nickname is “Mother”.

  9. 9.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 18, 2018 at 12:56 am

    @Ruckus: Fucker Churlson.

  10. 10.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 12:59 am

    @ruemara:
    The awful comes from them being over protected whites who think that the world is trying to kill them because their last manicure wasn’t perfect. This situation of thinking that the world is trying to kill them has caused them to force their heads up their exit orifice at a great velocity which gives them a shitty view of life. And with the exit orifice plugged they just get more and more full of shit. It’s a really bad circle of life choice that they made and we get to pay for it, listening to the struggle they have trying speak in this fashion. They talk, it sound like gas and stinks, but that’s all they know so they keep talking, shitty gas keeps coming out.

  11. 11.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 1:01 am

    @Jerzy Russian:
    @Uncle Cosmo:
    I knew there’d be someone up to correct me on the spelling of his name.

  12. 12.

    hitchhiker

    September 18, 2018 at 1:02 am

    OT fun fact: Lisa Murkowski’s dad was the senator from Alaska when Clarence Thomas was confirmed (he voted yes). She got to the senate in 2002 because by then he’d become governor and he appointed her to fill a seat that had been vacated.

    I think the Murkowski family owes us one. She should vote against Kavanaugh.

  13. 13.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 1:06 am

    @Ruckus:
    BTW there is a technical term for this disease.
    It’s called Mobius Rectus syndrome.
    The symptoms are, well they are obvious.
    Mother Fucker Carlson is the poster child.

  14. 14.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 1:12 am

    but does Tucker Carlson really assume his natural talents have been insufficiently rewarded even as it is?

    He does! Of course he’s the only one out of 6+ billion people on the planet to hold that view. And his Mobius Rectus syndrome keeps him from understanding, well pretty much everything, so figuring that out won’t happen.

  15. 15.

    ruemara

    September 18, 2018 at 1:24 am

    @Ruckus: lol, y’all are terrible. ALso, here are kittens.

  16. 16.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 18, 2018 at 1:30 am

    I’m gonna walk up into some confirmation hearings one day with some dance-sass for ages and a motherfucking switchblade!

    And … and … why do you keep telling me you will remember me and then never know my phone number, huh?

    Do you even know my name?

  17. 17.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 1:34 am

    @ruemara:
    We aren’t terrible, we are telling the truth!
    Girl those are some cute kittens.
    Kittens always make a day better.

  18. 18.

    Mnemosyne

    September 18, 2018 at 1:38 am

    @ruemara:

    Our cats were pretty good nurses for the first couple of days that I was home. And then, inevitably, they started to get a little annoyed that I was mucking up their routine. ?

  19. 19.

    ruemara

    September 18, 2018 at 1:41 am

    @Mnemosyne: Well, you were and that’s not allowed.

  20. 20.

    NotoriousJRT

    September 18, 2018 at 1:50 am

    does Tucker Carlson really assume his natural talents have been insufficiently rewarded even as it is?

    In a word: Yes.

  21. 21.

    patrick II

    September 18, 2018 at 1:53 am

    Back then the minimum wage was, adjusted for inflation, much higher than it is today even though the country’s GDP has doubled. Thanks …. no, not Obama!

  22. 22.

    NotoriousJRT

    September 18, 2018 at 1:59 am

    @hitchhiker:
    My guess is they owe us more than one.

  23. 23.

    Amir Khalid

    September 18, 2018 at 2:19 am

    Charles Manson’s ‘helter skelter’

    I always thought it was the Beatles’ Helter Skelter.
    I’m not even American, but I was eight years old when Tucker Carlson was born and I bet I know more than Carlson does about America in the late 1960s. I know, for example, that it was still very much riven by the many political divisions of that decade and still traumatised by the murders of the Kennedys and Dr Martin Luther King. I know it was a time when people of colour were being discriminated against, more so than today. I’ll grant that 1969 was a better year than 2018, or at least less bad. POTUS back then was a crook too, but at least he wasn’t an incompetent crook.

  24. 24.

    Yutsano

    September 18, 2018 at 2:25 am

    @hitchhiker: The Natives in Alaska are showing her all the receipts right now. They got her that seat. They are letting her know in no uncertain terms who got her back in the Senate. And they will turn against her if she doesn’t listen to them.

  25. 25.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 2:27 am

    @Amir Khalid:
    I’m old enough to have been an adult in both those years, and living in the US. On contemplation I’d say you were correct, and that’s with the Vietnam war going on and me joining the military. The war was the big issue in 69 and was about tearing the country apart, today it’s the country itself being torn apart. Both times by corrupt presidents. Hmmmmm, I wonder if this is going to be a 50 yr repeating issue………

  26. 26.

    Yutsano

    September 18, 2018 at 2:29 am

    @Amir Khalid: That’s where Manson got it. He just turned the song/phrase to his own nefaroius ends.

  27. 27.

    GideonAB

    September 18, 2018 at 2:35 am

    Has Ted Cruz called Beto
    a coward in the current campaign?

  28. 28.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 18, 2018 at 2:41 am

    @Yutsano: Helter Skelter is a playground slide.

  29. 29.

    smike

    September 18, 2018 at 2:42 am

    @GideonAB:
    Not sure, but he sure thinks that Beto is one bbq hatin’ sumbitch. Don’t think that line of attack is going to work so well, either.

  30. 30.

    sukabi

    September 18, 2018 at 3:00 am

    @Amir Khalid: Amir you know more about America than Carlson knows period.

  31. 31.

    Aleta

    September 18, 2018 at 3:11 am

    Heather Digby Parton, Salon

    “[Brett Kavanaugh] is not just a conservative jurist. He’s not John Roberts. He’s not even Neil Gorsuch. He’s a Republican operative who is posing as a judge” — Sen. Brian Schatz, D-Hawaii,
    …
    Kavanaugh joined a notoriously dissipated and drunken fraternity at Yale and belonged to an equally licentious secret society that even today remains one of the few all-male groups on campus. None of that is evidence that Kavanaugh assaulted anyone, to be sure. But it does call into question the Boy Scout image his sponsors so assiduously created during his confirmation hearings.
    …
    When it comes to unfairness and character assassination, he’s an expert. Here is just one example to illustrate the depth of his character deficiencies. Back in the 1990s, conservative activists went to DefCon One when Bill Clinton came into office. A whole group of young conservative lawyers joined the cause, Kavanaugh among them. His first big job for the movement was as Ken Starr’s point man on the Vince Foster case.

    Indeed, it was Kavanaugh who pushed for the investigation even though Foster’s death had been amply covered by congressional committees, the local police, the FBI and the first special counsel Robert Fisk, all of whom had concluded found that the former deputy White House counsel had committed suicide. But Kavanaugh was deep in the right-wing fever swamp and argued to Starr that they could unscrupulously use the fact that there were unfounded conspiracy theories surrounding Foster’s death to reopen the case, despite the grieving family’s desperate pleas for the government to stop the “outrageous innuendo and speculation for political ends.”

    Kavanaugh was apparently particularly interested in Rush Limbaugh’s odious suggestion to his legions of listeners that Foster had been murdered in an apartment secretly owned by Hillary Clinton. He spent three years and $2 million attempting to dig up dirt on the dead man, at one point demanding that Foster’s teenage daughter give the authorities specimens of her hair — an apparent attempt to prove or imply that a hair found on Foster’s jacket had belonged to Hillary Clinton.

    Kavanaugh asked everyone involved about this nonexistent affair between Clinton and Foster — even, eventually, Clinton herself. It later became clear that Kavanaugh knew all along that Foster had committed suicide, and that he had used the power and resources of the independent counsel’s office to lend credibility to vulgar sexual rumors about the first lady, in the process needlessly torturing the family of a dead man.

    Let’s just say there is more than one way to assault someone. In this case, which is proven, he assaulted two women: Hillary Clinton and Vince Foster’s widow, Elizabeth.
    …
    As Sen. Brian Schatz said in the quote above, Brett Kavanaugh is not just another conservative jurist. He is a professional political operative with a past full of dirty tricks and character assassination. If there is any decency left in the Republican Party this latest revelation will be the straw that breaks the camel’s back.

  32. 32.

    sdhays

    September 18, 2018 at 3:39 am

    It always amazes me how these guys (Tucker, Bill O) look like they’ve been constipated for the last week and take pride in the inability of their digestive tract to function properly, and that doesn’t seem to disqualify them from television. How are they appealing? How can anyone stand looking at their combination of smugness and constipation for an entire hour?

  33. 33.

    NotMax

    September 18, 2018 at 3:42 am

    Who took over Carlson’s slot on MSNBC when they canned his butt?

    Rachel Maddow.

    The one thing we have to thank him for.

  34. 34.

    Aleta

    September 18, 2018 at 3:52 am

    Charles M. Blow @CharlesMBlow

    Stop infantalizing white men and pathologizing black ones.

    Kavanaugh, accused of attempted rape, was 17: Trump defending his “very special” guy.

    All of the Central Park Five, accused of rape, we’re YOUNGER than 17: Trump said he hated them and called for their execution.

  35. 35.

    sm*t cl*de

    September 18, 2018 at 4:24 am

    @Ruckus:

    It’s called Mobius Rectus syndrome.

    There is an actual Mobius Syndrome (congenital cranial nerve dysfunction). I hope you feel guilty now.

  36. 36.

    Karen S.

    September 18, 2018 at 8:02 am

    I think not having to compete with anyone else except other white men for jobs is a huge reason that mediocre white men like Tucker Carlson imagine that they’d be so much happier back in the day than in the present. They could more easily convince themselves that they’d got their jobs through their own merits instead of acknowledging the truth—that they’d gotten their jobs because they were someone’s son, grandson, nephew, family friend. Plus, they could lord it over their wives and children because that’s what men do. They could drink and drive without some nanny state telling them they had to buckle their seatbelts, if their cars had seatbelts at all. They could sexually harass/assault women pretty much at will. They could go about their business without seeing many if any black people, for instance, except the ones who worked as janitors, cooks and in other low-paying jobs. If you’re a mediocre white man like Tucker Carlson, those would have been halcyon days, indeed.

  37. 37.

    Frank McCormick

    September 18, 2018 at 8:17 am

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I’ve heard the “we never used to lock our doors” statement most of my adult life. Most people could probably leave their doors unlocked at night today as well and be just as safe. What has changed the is perception and NOT the reality.

  38. 38.

    Omnes Omnibus

    September 18, 2018 at 8:28 am

    @Amir Khalid: “This is a song Charles Manson stole from the The Beatles. We’re stealing it back.”

  39. 39.

    Matt McIrvin

    September 18, 2018 at 8:42 am

    Guys my age trying to pretend they were born in 1915 are always a revolting sight.

  40. 40.

    Uncle Cosmo

    September 18, 2018 at 9:04 am

    @Karen S.:

    He is the elder son of Richard Warner Carlson, a former Los Angeles news anchor and U.S. ambassador to the Seychelles who was also president of the Corporation for Public Broadcasting and director of Voice of America. Carlson’s mother is Lisa McNear Lombardi, who left the family when Carlson was 6 years old. His stepmother is Patricia Caroline Swanson, an heiress to the Swanson frozen-food fortune;

    Poor widduw underpwiviledged white boy. No advantages at all growing up…

  41. 41.

    Karen S.

    September 18, 2018 at 9:27 am

    @Uncle Cosmo:
    Nope. No advantages at all. He pulled himself up by his own gilded bootstraps.

  42. 42.

    WaterGirl

    September 18, 2018 at 9:31 am

    @ruemara: What sweet babies!

  43. 43.

    Ruckus

    September 18, 2018 at 10:04 am

    @sm*t cl*de:
    Not in the least.

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