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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Thou Shalt Not Criticize The Dear Leader

Thou Shalt Not Criticize The Dear Leader

by Cheryl Rofer|  December 8, 20199:16 am| 76 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Impeachment, Rofer on International Relations, Trumpery

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To celebrate NATO’s 70th birthday, the Danish Atlantic Council, a thinktank, arranged a conference to be held on December 10. The American Ambassador to Denmark was invited to be an organizer. The lineup of speakers was pretty much as one might expect.

The Ambassador insisted that one of the speakers be removed from the program: Stanley Sloan, a visiting professor at Middlebury College, fellow at the Atlantic Council and former CIA analyst. Sloan has been critical of President Donald Trump. The Danish Atlantic Council has now canceled the entire conference.

After serious consideration, we have decided not to proceed with the Conference. The progress of the process has become too problematic; and therefore, we cannot participate in the Conference, let alone ask our Speakers to participate. @AtlantDK @srs2_ https://t.co/HvogtkOJJO

— Lars Bangert Struwe (@LarsBStruwe) December 8, 2019

The paper Sloan intended to present can be found here. In it, he talks about internal and external threats to NATO. The internal threats are largely, but not entirely, Donald Trump, which is what the news has been telling us through last week’s NATO meeting. Others of his papers can be found here.

The Ambassador, Carla Sands,

is a former actress, chiropractor, and board member of major California institutions who was confirmed to her post in 2017 after making contributions to Trump’s campaign and inauguration and, according to ProPublica, being recommended by Eliott Broidy. Her official Twitter account looks much like any other ambassador’s, while her personal account is often retweets of articles from far-right outlets like Breitbart and Prager University.

David Frum (yes, I know, but he’s got this right) checked out her Twitter account, with screenshots because he figures the account will be deleted or cleaned up. There’s a lot more to the thread; this is just a sample.

https://t.co/m57p5xzjCp

— David Frum (@davidfrum) December 8, 2019

The Trump administration keeps pushing the boundaries. Earlier in that thread, Frum points out that his participation in conferences was never censored by the government. That’s been the policy until this Dear Leader and his far-right minions.

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  1. 1.

    MattF

    December 8, 2019 at 9:24 am

    They’re sensitive. Of course, Dear Leader loves everyone, but not totally equally.

  2. 2.

    PeakVT

    December 8, 2019 at 9:29 am

    The conference should have been held.  I can see why the Danish Atlantic Council wouldn’t want the hassle.  But NATO just might be an important part of European and thus Danish security, and threats to NATO might be something the Danish public should know about.  Also, too, authoritarianism in an important ally (though in general West Europeans seem to be studiously ignoring authoritarianism close to home in Poland and Hungary these days).

  3. 3.

    Baud

    December 8, 2019 at 9:30 am

    good on DAC for not caving

  4. 4.

    Cheryl Rofer

    December 8, 2019 at 9:33 am

    @PeakVT: I can go either way on that. The Danish Atlantic Council’s statement is good and worth reading. I think the determining factor likely was that the US Embassy was a participant, and their censorship was unacceptable. I am seeing approval of the cancelation from people I respect.

  5. 5.

    trnc

    December 8, 2019 at 9:34 am

    I doubt that Carla Sands has ever read Animal Farm.

    On the contrarary; it was her instruction manual.

  6. 6.

    Wag

    December 8, 2019 at 9:35 am

    David Frum and  Jennifer Rubin have been really interesting the past year or so.  Both are very intelligent, excellent writers, and both are vociferous critics of the president.  I disagree with their past stands on policy, but welcome them to the fight against Trump

  7. 7.

    Baud

    December 8, 2019 at 9:37 am

    @Cheryl Rofer: 

    I am seeing approval of the cancelation from people I respect.

    And from me.

  8. 8.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 8, 2019 at 9:37 am

    Earlier in that thread, Frum points out that his participation in conferences was never censored by the government. That’s been the policy until this Dear Leader and his far-right minions.

    Oh, but Bush was still worse than Trump, don’tcha know as people like Glenn Greenwald will love to tell us

     

     I am seeing approval of the cancelation from people I respect.

    Are these people politically right-wing? What’s their reasoning for their approval?

  9. 9.

    Pigdog

    December 8, 2019 at 9:38 am

    Many of our “diplomats” are um, less than qualified…

     

    Your Ambassador to South Africa, folks!

  10. 10.

    Cheryl Rofer

    December 8, 2019 at 9:39 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Their reasoning is the same as mine in comment 4.

  11. 11.

    Cheryl Rofer

    December 8, 2019 at 9:40 am

    @Baud: You’ll note that my comment came after yours!

  12. 12.

    SFAW

    December 8, 2019 at 9:42 am

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    Oh, but Bush Obama was still worse than Trump, don’tcha know as people like Glenn Greenwald will love to tell us

     

    Fixed

  13. 13.

    Cheryl Rofer

    December 8, 2019 at 9:43 am

    @Pigdog: There has always been an issue of appointing campaign donors to ambassadorships. When it’s been done by previous presidents, the candidate usually has some related experience to bring to the position and enough sense to let the professional State Department diplomats run things. That’s gone out the window with Trump.

    It’s something that the US does more than other countries and should stop in all presidential administrations.

  14. 14.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    December 8, 2019 at 9:44 am

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Oh crap, I’m sorry! I didn’t read the comment the whole way through. Yeah, the Council probably did the right thing here by canceling as a stand against censorship being pushed by the US embassy

  15. 15.

    SFAW

    December 8, 2019 at 9:46 am

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    In her favor: she also speaks Xhosa and Afrikaans, which is a vast improvement over a preznit* who cannot speak English coherently.

     

    ETA: Prof. Irwin Corey’s stand-up routine made tons more sense than anything the Moron-in-Chief says.

  16. 16.

    debbie

    December 8, 2019 at 9:46 am

    @Baud:

    They should have just disinvited the Ambassador.

  17. 17.

    MattF

    December 8, 2019 at 9:47 am

    Linda Ronstadt does the right thing:

    twitter.com/SAMGREIS/status/1203508726004629507

  18. 18.

    Cheryl Rofer

    December 8, 2019 at 9:50 am

    I’m off to breakfast, will check back later.

  19. 19.

    debbie

    December 8, 2019 at 9:50 am

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Disinvitation would send a far stronger message to these clowns.

  20. 20.

    Pigdog

    December 8, 2019 at 9:50 am

    @Cheryl Rofer: I know (I work in an adjacent field)… it’s just gotten even more galling. Here’s the new missionary…er…ambassador to several Pacific islands. 

  21. 21.

    Immanentize

    December 8, 2019 at 10:01 am

    @Cheryl Rofer: Exceptions do prove the rule.  Ambassador Swanee Hunt was an excellent diplomat in Austria who was deeply involved in securing legal stability in neighboring post-soviet nations.

    She gave boatloads to Clinton.

  22. 22.

    droog

    December 8, 2019 at 10:03 am

    @debbie:

     

    The Ambassador was invited as an organiser, not just a guest. Disinviting her would be firing her and whilst that would give us a chuckle, I can understand how in such lofty academic/policy circles it would have been a difficult thing to do.

  23. 23.

    Betty Cracker

    December 8, 2019 at 10:07 am

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    It’s something that the US does more than other countries and should stop in all presidential administrations.

    Agreed.

  24. 24.

    japa21

    December 8, 2019 at 10:07 am

    I leave this here without further comment. The cartoon at the link speaks for itself.

    comicskingdom.com/bizarro

  25. 25.

    germy

    December 8, 2019 at 10:14 am

    Mr. Stanley Sloan’s proposed last-minute inclusion in the program by @AtlantDK did not follow the same deliberative process of joint decision-making and agreement that we followed when recruiting all other speakers.— U.S. Embassy Denmark (@usembdenmark) December 8, 2019

    Well alright then.

  26. 26.

    Ascap_scab

    December 8, 2019 at 10:15 am

    @Pigdog: So she killed Princess Diana.

  27. 27.

    germy

    December 8, 2019 at 10:16 am

    Credentials

    Carla Sands was an actress in B-movies who became a chiropractor, then married a wealthy L.A. real-estate developer 20+ years her senior. He died a few years ago. She was on the Trump campaign finance committee, I believe. Good times.— Gary Legum (@GaryLegum) December 7, 2019

  28. 28.

    Tim C.

    December 8, 2019 at 10:17 am

    Carla Sands best work.

     

    en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deathstalker_and_the_Warriors_from_Hell

     

    No,  I’m not making this up.

  29. 29.

    germy

    December 8, 2019 at 10:18 am

    More on the banning of ⁦@srs2_⁩ . Hasn’t realized that Carla Sands was recommended by RNC fundraiser Elliott Broidy, who is caught up in the UAE/Saudi campaign and other scandals. What a crowd. t.co/RpNxGP0DZw— Daniel Benjamin (@Benjamin05055) December 8, 2019

  30. 30.

    Msb

    December 8, 2019 at 10:21 am

    Well, this is some stupid if consistent loyalty. Sands is the ambassador humiliated by trump’s cancelling the state visit that he had demanded because the Danes wouldn’t sell him Greenland.

  31. 31.

    Curt L.

    December 8, 2019 at 10:21 am

    FWIW, Carla Sands is sort of the Melania of the high-end Los Angeles real estate world.  She retired from acting and chiropracting to marry an old goat whose mug was on park bench advertisements all over the Westside in the early years of the century.

  32. 32.

    MattF

    December 8, 2019 at 10:22 am

    @Tim C.:  Carla plays twins. And one of them is ‘feisty’. That couldn’t have been easy.

  33. 33.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2019 at 10:23 am

    Projection, projection, projection.  The John Kass tweet:

     

    Is America still a free country, or has the hard left built an Animal Farm upon …

     

    Blindness, too.  John Kass does not understand Animal Farm.  Ted Cruz did not understand Green Eggs and Ham.

     

    It’s clinical.

  34. 34.

    debbie

    December 8, 2019 at 10:27 am

    @germy:

    Before the B movies, Wikipedia says she was in soaps, The Bold and the Beautiful specifically.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    December 8, 2019 at 10:28 am

    @MattF: I LOVE THAT.

  36. 36.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2019 at 10:29 am

    @germy:

     

    @Tim C.: I’m going to look up her IMDB page.  Damn you both. :)

     

    ETA – Four TV series and two stinkers.  Only the best people (who bribed their way into this bastard administration.)

  37. 37.

    Other MJS

    December 8, 2019 at 10:32 am

    @japa21:

    I leave this here without further comment. The cartoon at the link speaks for itself.

    This should be a permanent link:

    comicskingdom.com/bizarro/2019-12-08

  38. 38.

    MattF

    December 8, 2019 at 10:32 am

    @WaterGirl: OT. My full internet connection is back, so if I see those superposed comments again, I’ll let you know.

  39. 39.

    Citizen_X

    December 8, 2019 at 10:33 am

    @Tim C.: Thus we have the inevitable MST3K take.

  40. 40.

    Other MJS

    December 8, 2019 at 10:36 am

    John Kass, the Chicago Tribune’s page-2 right-wing concern troll. Ugh.

  41. 41.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2019 at 10:37 am

    @Elizabelle:

    Ted Cruz did not understand Green Eggs and Ham. 

    Would Ted, could Ted, on a boat?  What’s Ted, what’s Ted, doing with that goat?

  42. 42.

    Mike R

    December 8, 2019 at 10:38 am

    @Tim C.:   Yes indeed, this movie was also given the treatment it deserved by the MST3K team.

  43. 43.

    germy

    December 8, 2019 at 10:39 am

    @debbie:   B-movies can be fun.   In my opinion, the acting career was  more honorable than chiropracting, real estate grifting, or trump supporting.

  44. 44.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2019 at 10:42 am

    @mrmoshpotato:   Well done.

  45. 45.

    Tim C.

    December 8, 2019 at 10:43 am

    @germy:

    Solid point actually

  46. 46.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2019 at 10:45 am

    @germy: B-movies can be fun.  A B-movie of a bastard administration taking away food stamps on the other hand…

  47. 47.

    dmsilev

    December 8, 2019 at 10:46 am

    TPM headline: “Trump Tells Mostly Jewish Crowd They’ll Vote For Him Because They Want To Protect Their Wealth”

     

    Nothing at all problematic about that. Nothing at all.

  48. 48.

    ThresherK

    December 8, 2019 at 10:49 am

    Mel Brooks was interviewed on CBS Sunday Morning.

     

    It’s always amazing to remember that he and Anne Bancroft were happily married life partners for over 40 years. He’s Mel Brooks, the guy who wrote the bean-eating campfire farting scene, and she was Mrs. Robinson in The Graduate, among other career-making roles.

     

    However, Brooks really didn’t seem to have a handle on the whole “Is comedy too restrictive today?” question. He talked about PC-ness and swear words while not demonstrating that he recognized straight white Christian guys longing for an age when you could punch down on women, people of color, LGBTQs, etc, and call it “comedy” without repercussion.

     

    People who whine “we couldn’t make Blazing Saddles today” can never have made Blazing Saddles.

  49. 49.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2019 at 10:50 am

    @dmsilev: The POS did something similar back in 2015/16.

  50. 50.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 8, 2019 at 10:51 am

    @germy: that’d be a great respite thread: What’s a “B movie” these days, and what are the best B movies.

     

    @dmsilev: he says shit like that almost every time he talks to a Jewish audience– dual loyalty, you’re all so good with money, you all love your money, Bibi is your president of your country– but Ilhan Omar gets death threats for pointing out that the  American-Israeli Political Action Committee engages in politics

  51. 51.

    Kay

    December 8, 2019 at 10:54 am

    The reason it scares me is because I don’t agree with political media- I think there’s probably political upside for some Senators to break with Trump on something, but they don’t.

    I think it’s rank, coward-excusing bullshit that some of these senators would face this huge pro-Trump backlash in their states. Not true.  think they go along with him because they’re afraid OF HIM. Not voters. Trump himself. That’s scary because it’s real authoritarian rather than political calculation.

  52. 52.

    debbie

    December 8, 2019 at 10:55 am

    @dmsilev:

    More problematic for me was this:

    “Because you have people that are Jewish people, that are great people…they don’t love Israel enough.”

  53. 53.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 8, 2019 at 10:56 am

    @ThresherK:

    He talked about PC-ness and swear words while not demonstrating that he recognized straight white Christian guys longing for an age when you could punch down on women, people of color, LGBTQs, etc, and call it “comedy” without repercussion.

    I’m not surprised, really. He’s pushing 90 and he’s the youngest member of his social circle (Carl Reiner, Dick Van Dyke, Norman Lear).
    John Cleese is another beloved legend who can disappoint his fans: “Are you really telling me my funny Indian accent is racist! How dare you!”

  54. 54.

    germy

    December 8, 2019 at 10:57 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Since we’re too cheap for cable TV, our consumption is limited to whatever comes over the antenna.

    For about a year we saw every movie on the “Comet” channel.  Some truly hideous films.

  55. 55.

    Miss Bianca

    December 8, 2019 at 10:59 am

    @ThresherK: I love “Blazing Saddles”, but recognize it as a period piece.

     

    I also laughed at “Thank You for Smoking”, but had to turn off the special features featuring the white guys who made it talking about “political correctness”. Yes, boys, we get it that you feel constricted by modern standards of decency.Your movie did the talking for you, and it made your erstwhile “points” in a much more oblique and therefore less obnoxious way. Move along.

  56. 56.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2019 at 11:00 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Can I interest you in most of Roger Corman’s catalog?

  57. 57.

    rikyrah

    December 8, 2019 at 11:03 am

    ???

     

    Ana Navarro-Cárdenas (@ananavarro) Tweeted:
    I can’t erase from my mind the images of Carlos Hernandez Vasquez twitching and dying. In America, kids are sleeping on cement slabs, covered in foil blankets, denied medical care and compassion. To all those bible-quoting, Trump-defending “Christians” out there…God is watching twitter.com/ananavarro/status/1203108052666376193?s=20

  58. 58.

    Warblewarble

    December 8, 2019 at 11:05 am

    Lo siento mi vida, If there is a god she is called lInda

  59. 59.

    rikyrah

    December 8, 2019 at 11:05 am

    @Baud:

     

     

    ????

  60. 60.

    ThresherK

    December 8, 2019 at 11:06 am

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: It’s different with Brooks than Cleese, for me.

     

    The Producers was about how to address Nazism in an era when it really wasn’t done. And the entire hook of Blazing Saddles was the token black sheriff appointed by the governor, and the expected racism that the townsfolk never showed.

     

    Sure, his style was making movies with a Borscht Belt / variety show style of “some of everything”, but there was always the structure of a real story there. The crudeness was often in service of picking on the proper targets. I don’t know how someone ages out of that realization.

     

    John Cleese’s remarks about an Indian accent I haven’t heard, but when I think of his targets, all I can think of are The French, and “Making the case against the government, a small puddle of brown liquid”. (Writer unknown, just Monty Python stuff.)

  61. 61.

    MattF

    December 8, 2019 at 11:07 am

    @dmsilev: And note this. One could say, well, Hallmark movies are bullshit by definition. But there should have been someone in the loop who recognized that it was offensive. Or, maybe there was someone and they were ignored.

  62. 62.

    Miss Bianca

    December 8, 2019 at 11:08 am

    @mrmoshpotato: Hey, you can interest *me* in the Roger Corman catalogue – the theater I work for was founded by Anne Kimball, who was in a lot of his movies! Her daughter is my boss! Which one should I start with, or doesn’t it matter? ; )

  63. 63.

    ThresherK

    December 8, 2019 at 11:09 am

    @Miss Bianca: Eh, “Thank you for Smoking” lost me when it was the lawyer “debating” his son about “choice” of ice cream flavors.

     

    Hard pass. If I want South Park’s “don’t bother” nihilism, I’ll watch South Park.

  64. 64.

    Miss Bianca

    December 8, 2019 at 11:13 am

    @ThresherK: I think for me the “yeah, this is bad, but I can’t stop watching” is that the lead actor bore an uncanny resemblance to an old bf. That, and Kim Dickens, whose talent was totally wasted on the role of the douchebro’s ex-wife.

  65. 65.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 8, 2019 at 11:16 am

    (OT: I love Joy Reid, but why is she giving twenty minutes to Jack Kingston to say things like “the Squad is impeaching President trump”?)

  66. 66.

    rikyrah

    December 8, 2019 at 11:17 am

    Five Myths About Black Voters

     

    washingtonpost.com/outlook/five-myths/five-myths-about-black-voters/2019/12/06/89195a7c-1788-11ea-84…

  67. 67.

    germy

    December 8, 2019 at 11:21 am

    @Tim C.:

    Thank you.

    I sort of wish she’d stuck to acting.

  68. 68.

    Warblewarble

    December 8, 2019 at 11:29 am

    Across the borderline by Linda & Emmylou the anthem of hope for a better America. Hold on hold fast make it happen. there is an America the Beautiful so much of the world has looked to. Let it not be further betrayed by trumpthuglicans.

  69. 69.

    numfar

    December 8, 2019 at 11:34 am

    @Elizabelle: Kass is a sorry substitute for Mike Royko.

  70. 70.

    johnnybuck

    December 8, 2019 at 11:47 am

    @Kay: I think Brian Kemp, the Governor of Ga, might actually end up proving your point. His refusal to appoint Rep Collins to the senate, Trump’s guy, doesn’t seem to be causing him any backlash.

  71. 71.

    Warblewarble

    December 8, 2019 at 11:52 am

    Nikki haley shit,Tom Cotton shit ,Rubio shit, Cruz shit shit, all along the line fill in trumpthuglian names, so who is Biden going to work across the aisles with “Moscow Mitch” good luck with that says Harry Reid who should know what a nest of vipers looks like.

  72. 72.

    Another Scott

    December 8, 2019 at 12:05 pm

    Donnie is carrying out Breitbart’s mission of breaking international institutions.  Film at 11.

     

    Look for these efforts to continue as long as he and his minions have power.

     

    Good for Denmark for refusing to be part of it.

     

    Cheers,

    Scott.

  73. 73.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 8, 2019 at 1:49 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Cool.  Let’s see…

     

    The Masque of the Red Death and Tales of Terror are both quite good, and both star Vincent Price.  Death Race 2000(1975).

     

    He’s produced too many ridiculous creature features to list.

     

    Take a stroll through his IMDB filmography.

  74. 74.

    smintheus

    December 8, 2019 at 2:09 pm

    @germy:  “actress in B movies” is being generous. She was in 2 movies, the best of which (Deathstalker and the Warriors from Hell), has a 2.7 rating on IMDB.

     

    Her qualification was that she gave a quarter million to Trump’s campaign, held high-dollar fundraisers for him, and gave $100K to his inaugural slush fund. Also, as a chiropractor she knows how to do back massages.

  75. 75.

    Elizabelle

    December 8, 2019 at 2:23 pm

    This is probably a dead thread, but for any late-arriving readers, wanted to point out the language in the Danish American Council’s press release (which, sadly, does not seem to allow cut and paste).  They were very clear about precisely what caused the cancellation of the conference; they did not couch it in Mr. Bangert’s  more diplomatic “the process has become too problematic” (which means — what?)   The press release:

    … Amongst the invited Speakers invited by the [DAC] was Mr. Stanley Sloan from Atlantic Council United States.

    Regrettably, the American Ambassador did not want Mr. Sloan’s participation.  As the Embassy is co-organizer and sponsor, the [DAC] had no other option than to cancel Mr. Sloan’s participation in the Conference.

    We have all the time known that Mr. Sloan has a critical approach towards President Donald Trump.  That is no secret — especially, when following his Twitter and Facebook profile.  We have, however, never doubted that Mr. Sloan at our Conference would deliver an unpolitical and objective lecture.  Mr. Sloan had made us that promise.  Therefore, we decided to keep Mr. Sloan as Speaker, until the American Ambassador demanded that Mr. Sloan’s participation got cancelled ….

    … [Mr. Sloan ultimately decided to publish the speech he would have made] a decision we respect.  … Mr. Sloan wanted to commend Ambassador Carla Sands [for her support of shared values] …over-all, I do not see any direct or concealed attacks on President Donald Trump.

    I applaud the DAC’s courage in explicitly spelling out what caused the cancellation.  That is how you fight fascism and intolerance of free speech:  explicitly call it out.

    Let’s see if any major US newspapers follow up on this topic.  Good on Cheryl for informing us.

    The more I thought about this situation, it is chilling.  Terribly chilling.

  76. 76.

    Ruckus

    December 8, 2019 at 4:06 pm

    @debbie:

    The strength of message means nothing to them.

    They are incapable of learning to become normal humans, no matter the actual lesson or the degree of it. They are racists and money grubbers, taking pennies for their hate because they can’t earn it any other way. And they don’t even understand they are being used.

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