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Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

Peak wingnut was a lie.

Do not shrug your shoulders and accept the normalization of untruths.

No one could have predicted…

You can’t attract Republican voters. You can only out organize them.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

Battle won, war still ongoing.

Sadly, there is no cure for stupid.

They’re not red states to be hated; they are voter suppression states to be fixed.

Why did Dr. Oz lose? well, according to the exit polls, it’s because Fetterman won.

Motto for the House: Flip 5 and lose none.

Putting aside our relentless self-interest because the moral imperative is crystal clear.

You cannot shame the shameless.

Authoritarian republicans are opposed to freedom for the rest of us.

We cannot abandon the truth and remain a free nation.

Republicans seem to think life begins at the candlelight dinner the night before.

People are complicated. Love is not.

The willow is too close to the house.

They fucked up the fucking up of the fuckup!

Pessimism assures that nothing of any importance will change.

You can’t love your country only when you win.

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You are here: Home / Foreign Affairs / Tuesday Evening Open Thread: The Way We Live Now

Tuesday Evening Open Thread: The Way We Live Now

by Anne Laurie|  June 30, 20206:46 pm| 177 Comments

This post is in: Foreign Affairs, Military, Open Threads, Trump-Russia

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I’m sure Cheryl and/or Adam will have serious, information-packed post about this later, but chroist jaysus, as the old folk used to say…

RECEIPTS:

EXCLUSIVE: Data intercepts showed GRU-to-Taliban $ transfers & a key intermediary fled to Russia, bolstering earlier detainee accounts about a Russian bounty op. Trump WH omitted in its briefing to GOP lawmakers as it downplayed intel as murky/contested. https://t.co/bmMd4V7Fjt

— Charlie Savage (@charlie_savage) June 30, 2020

did they crush it up in some peanut butter like how you give a dog his worm medicine https://t.co/WaIdAEITYi

— kilgore trout, a ramp with no steps (@KT_So_It_Goes) June 30, 2020

Ok well I guess now that he's finally been briefed, it's time for him to act on it. Can't wait to see what bold steps he takes to hold Russia accountable.

— Centrism Fan Acct ? (@Wilson__Valdez) June 30, 2020

Repubs: Hide the evidence, y’all!…

Senate strips a provision from an intelligence bill requiring campaigns to report foreign election help https://t.co/92cIZOOxrc pic.twitter.com/TKmFyC2M5a

— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) June 30, 2020

The Senate will incorporate the annual intelligence policy legislation into the National Defense Authorization Act — but only after stripping language from the intelligence bill that would have required presidential campaigns to report offers of foreign election help.

Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Tuesday that Senate Republicans forced the removal of the election reporting provision as a condition to include the intelligence bill on the must-pass defense policy legislation.

Earlier this month, the Senate Intelligence Committee approved an amendment on an 8-7 vote from Warner and GOP Sen. Susan Collins of Maine, which added a provision to the Intelligence Authorization Act requiring campaigns to notify federal authorities about offers of foreign election help.

That bill, however, was unlikely to get Senate floor time on its own, which is why it’s being included in the National Defense Authorization Act. The effort to strip the foreign election help provision from the intelligence bill was not a surprise, as acting Senate Intelligence Chairman Marco Rubio, a Florida Republican, predicted earlier this month it would be removed before the bill was on the floor, because of an objection from the Senate Rules Committee…

Republicans sending anyone to Moscow for this 4th of July?

— Schooley (@Rschooley) June 29, 2020


And when they go, is there any way we can bar them from returning?

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  1. 1.

    lollipopguild

    June 30, 2020 at 6:50 pm

    You sell your soul to the Devil/Putin for power and the bill comes due.

  2. 2.

    NotMax

    June 30, 2020 at 6:51 pm

    Bounty, the quicker tripper-upper.

    //

  3. 3.

    Cheryl Rofer

    June 30, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    Quick observation on that first tweet: The intel people don’t want this to go away any time soon.

  4. 4.

    dr. bloor

    June 30, 2020 at 6:54 pm

    Being owned by the Russians and having to back the play of a dementing sociopath every damn day seems to take a toll.  Florida Ricky’s sporting that thousand-mile gaze, or perhaps wondering what the barrel of a Glock tastes like.

  5. 5.

    Punchy

    June 30, 2020 at 6:57 pm

    Glad to know the Prez is now up-to-date in almost-July about something told to him in Feb.  What can happen in (checks calendar) 5 months?

  6. 6.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 30, 2020 at 6:58 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Pretty clear somebody has a plan. And it’s not Trump.

  7. 7.

    Roger Moore

    June 30, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    And when they go, is there any way we can bar them from returning?

    My preferred approach is indictments. Russia doesn’t have an extradition treaty, so they might just decide to stay.

  8. 8.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 6:59 pm

    @Punchy:

    Glad to know the Prez is now up-to-date

    He’s not.

  9. 9.

    debbie

    June 30, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    A better version of that last tweet: “Russia sending any delegates to Jacksonville this summer?”

  10. 10.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 7:00 pm

    If I owned a radio station, I would play Lee Greenwood nonstop.

  11. 11.

    debbie

    June 30, 2020 at 7:01 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    Doesn’t that sound like a Republican was who leaked that tidbit?

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 30, 2020 at 7:02 pm

    @Baud:  I would cut you.

  13. 13.

    Chetan Murthy

    June 30, 2020 at 7:04 pm

    Finally, this is one the Dems in the House can go to the wall on!  Bang that drum!  Everybody onboard!

     

    GrOPers want to sell out our country to the Russkies!

  14. 14.

    James E Powell

    June 30, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    Sen. Mark Warner of Virginia, the top Democrat on the Senate Intelligence Committee, said Tuesday that Senate Republicans forced the removal of the election reporting provision as a condition to include the intelligence bill on the must-pass defense policy legislation.

    Can Democrats just say “no”?

  15. 15.

    JPL

    June 30, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    @debbie: Maybe a patriot. I hated when Pres. Bush identified who he thought were true patriots, because he politicized the word. Now I think it’s true. It’s not just one person.

  16. 16.

    dmsilev

    June 30, 2020 at 7:05 pm

    @debbie: Relocating the large-crowd part of the RNC to Jacksonville seems to have been an excellent decision with no possible downside.

  17. 17.

    burnspbesq

    June 30, 2020 at 7:06 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: 

    I would cut you

    Take a number.

  18. 18.

    frosty

    June 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    @NotMax:

    Bounty, the quicker tripper-upper.

    Only the second comment and you win the thread. /doffs hat/

  19. 19.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    Trump is not known to fully or regularly read the PDB, something that is well-known within the White House. He is instead orally briefed two or three times a week by his intelligence officials.

    Without confirming whether the information was included in the written document — something she claimed she would never “sit here and confirm or deny” — press secretary Kayleigh McEnany insisted Trump does read.

    “The President does read and he also consumes intelligence verbally,” she said when questioned why Trump isn’t reading the PDB.

  20. 20.

    Just Chuck

    June 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    Heavens to Betsy, Susan Collins’ brow must be so furrowed now.

  21. 21.

    Omnes Omnibus

    June 30, 2020 at 7:09 pm

    @burnspbesq: During the Persian Gulf war, Armed Forces Radio seemed to alternate between that song and Wind Beneath My Wings.  You are behind me.

  22. 22.

    Just Chuck

    June 30, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    @debbie: Does Trump count?

  23. 23.

    James E Powell

    June 30, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    @JPL:

    The word patriot has been politicized for a very long time.

  24. 24.

    LuciaMia

    June 30, 2020 at 7:10 pm

    Maybe they didnt have to crush it up in peanut butter but maybe they said “If you sit still and listen to this whole brief you then can go and play golf for the rest of the day.”

  25. 25.

    ThresherK

    June 30, 2020 at 7:12 pm

    Jeopardy! is in reruns, and the blurb for today’s episode, from late winter a year ago, says “Top player (name here’s) best win”.

    What’s the point of that?

  26. 26.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 7:12 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Hopefully that will change now that Tom Brady is gone.

  27. 27.

    Gin & Tonic

    June 30, 2020 at 7:13 pm

    @Baud:

    he also consumes intelligence verbally

    She means “orally,” of course. Or “aurally” if we’re being precise.

  28. 28.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 7:18 pm

    Rep. Liz Cheney has suddenly become one of the most outspoken GOP critics of Donald Trump.

    I’ll always hate Trump most for making bad people look better in comparison.

  29. 29.

    boatboy_srq

    June 30, 2020 at 7:20 pm

    Party of Fiscal Responsibility

    Party of Personal Responsibility

    Party for Foreign Policy

    we’re running out of accolades for the GOTea.

  30. 30.

    Miss Bianca

    June 30, 2020 at 7:22 pm

    So, Republicans are just admitting – no, not just admitting, insisting – that they plan to keep on accepting campaign aid from foreign governments? Do I have that right? WTAF?

  31. 31.

    sanjeevs

    June 30, 2020 at 7:23 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: I hope they start leaking on a few Senators. Seems thats the only thing that will move them.

  32. 32.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    June 30, 2020 at 7:24 pm

    @frosty: Don’t encourage him.

  33. 33.

    Calouste

    June 30, 2020 at 7:25 pm

    @boatboy_srq: The GOP are still the Party of Foreign Policy. Russian Foreign Policy, but hey, minor detail.

  34. 34.

    boatboy_srq

    June 30, 2020 at 7:28 pm

    I would not be the least surprised if we were to learn that this was Lord Dampnut’s inner circle:

     

    https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.pjstar.com%2Farticle%2F20150208%2Fbusiness%2F302089981&psig=AOvVaw078uUt-Oz3LTXLHzSfR6LQ&ust=1593645759801000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CAIQjRxqFwoTCOD1o5_XquoCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAd

  35. 35.

    Just Chuck

    June 30, 2020 at 7:30 pm

    We now must assume every single Republican is a foreign agent until proven otherwise.

  36. 36.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 7:31 pm

    @Baud: “two or three times a week”???

    We should be glad we’re *only* in a pandemic.  Ye gods…

  37. 37.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 7:35 pm

    acting Senate Intelligence Chairman Marco Rubio,

    Man, Trump ‘s habit of not putting permanent people in job roles is catching on in the Republican Senate.  Also, the only time I would expect to see “intelligence” and “Marco Rubio” in the same sentence.

    @James E Powell: Can Democrats just say “no”?

    Not if they want that bill passed

    @Baud:“The President does read and he also consumes intelligence verbally,” she said when questioned why Trump isn’t reading the PDB.

    Consumes? Or is it an “in one ear out the other, non-stop, don’t pass go, don’t collect $200” situation?

  38. 38.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: this is all sending me through the Wayback Machine, to the soothing sounds of Allan Sherman…

    …”every time you take vac-cine…take it ora-lee…as you know the other way…is more painfullyyyyyyy…”

    (They fuck you up, your mum and dad – Larkin)

    (Had no idea that old record was still stashed in my memory – Jeffro)

  39. 39.

    LuciaMia

    June 30, 2020 at 7:36 pm

    @boatboy_srq: You forgot ‘Party of Family Values’

  40. 40.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 7:38 pm

    @boatboy_srq: Party of Fiscal Responsibility

    Party of Personal Responsibility

    Party for Foreign Policy

    we’re running out of accolades for the GOTea.

    As if any of those were ever true.

  41. 41.

    Sab

    June 30, 2020 at 7:38 pm

     

    @Baud: ” The President does read..”

    Yeah, pull the other one. It has bells on.

    Lots of people have reading disabilities. They compensate. My stepson has dyslexia. Reading is tough. On the other hand he can quote verbatim the dialogue of every movie he has ever seen, and also most tv shows.

    Trump cannot read well and probably never could. Also, he can’t remember what he ate for breakfast.

  42. 42.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    June 30, 2020 at 7:41 pm

    @Baud:

    Must they all sound so damn stupid?

  43. 43.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    @Sab :Trump cannot read well and probably never could.

    He doesn’t listen well either.  Besides the lack of trying, there’s a lack of comprehension.

    I hope this doesn’t come across as xenophobic, but I’d like a President who’s fluent in English.  Actually, I’d settle for fluency in any language, combined with critical thinking skills.

  44. 44.

    Redshift

    June 30, 2020 at 7:42 pm

    @James E Powell:

    Can Democrats just say “no”? 

    Presumably it was a vote, so if they don’t have a majority, then they can’t. Perhaps they could filibuster the entire bill, but I would guess the judgement was that filibustering the bill funding the military in an election year for a provision that will only be enforced if we win wasn’t a good tradeoff.

  45. 45.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 7:44 pm

    @dmsilev:  Karma?

    https://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/duval-county/johns-hopkins-university-stats-jacksonville-ranks-3rd-country-metro-area-covid-19-growth/NIROSBXIEJGZHJPKBU6FUAWWI4/

    JACKSONVILLE, Fla. — New statistics from Johns Hopkins University show Jacksonville ranking 3rd in the country for metro area COVID-19 growth in the past week, as of June 27.

    Orlando-Kissimmee tops the list, and Tampa ranks second.

    As of 10 a.m. Monday morning, about 300 cars lined up to get tested at the TIAA bank field.

    Last week, bars were ordered to no longer serve alcohol, and Monday the city issued a mask mandate.

    There are now 5,839 cases in Duval county compare that to this time last week Jacksonville sat at 3,085.

    That’s an increase of 2,754 cases in one week.

    According to Johns Hopkins School of Public Health Jacksonville ranks 3rd in the last week for the fastest growth in cases.

    It also reported Jacksonville ranked 17th in most new cases in the past week as of June 27.

    Some medical experts believe Florida could be the next epicenter for Corona Virus and University of South Florida doctors believe Florida will be a hotspot by mid-July.

  46. 46.

    Redshift

    June 30, 2020 at 7:44 pm

    @LuciaMia: and the party that Supports the Troops…

  47. 47.

    Gravenstone

    June 30, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Encourage? Like anyone can stop him?

  48. 48.

    E.

    June 30, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: No, he consumes *your* intelligence whenever he speaks.

  49. 49.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 7:45 pm

    @Baud:

     and he also consumes intelligence

    This is a reasonable explanation for what happened to the Republican Party over the last 5 years.  Not that there was much there to start with.

  50. 50.

    Gravenstone

    June 30, 2020 at 7:46 pm

    @Jeffro: Kind of undermines the concept of the presidential DAILY briefing…

  51. 51.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 7:47 pm

    @Redshift: and the party that Supports putting the Troops in harm’s way…

    Fixt

  52. 52.

    Amir Khalid

    June 30, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    @Baud:

    “Consumes intelligence”– is that like, you know, eating braaains? Hmm.

  53. 53.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    @Kent: Less “karma” and more “predictable”. Trump wanted and needed a place where the authorities (local and State) wouldn’t help their populace and wouldn’t practice or enforce safe procedures, but had a large service, hotel & business presence to sustain his coronation party.

    Of COURSE a place like that is going to explode in infections, especially when advance teams of people start showing up.

  54. 54.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 7:49 pm

    @Baud: he also consumes intelligence

    Can someone please inform the President that these papers he is being handed are not to be eaten?

    @MisterForkbeard: Trump wanted and needed a place where the authorities (local and State) wouldn’t help their populace and wouldn’t practice or enforce safe procedures

    He’ll be screwed if these people get wise before August.

  55. 55.

    Sab

    June 30, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    @Kropacetic: I don’t see it as xenophobic. I have a Chinrese brother in law who speaks English as well as I do, also too Korean, Japanese, Mandarin and his native Shanghainese (Wu dialect?).

    I am jealous sort of but he worked much harder. My Spanish could be much better but I was lazy. Also too my French. I had better opportunities. He made better use of his.

  56. 56.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 7:50 pm

    @Amir Khalid: It’s probably cooked well done and covered in ketchup.

  57. 57.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 7:52 pm

    @Baud:Trump is not known to fully or regularly read the PDB, something that is well-known within the White House. He is instead orally briefed two or three times a week by his intelligence officials.

    Teacher here.   It is a common and required educational technique to develop and implement “accommodations” for students who have any sort of disability or condition that prevents them from learning through mainstream methods like reading and writing.  Typically a committee of teachers, counselors, and the parents would develop an individual education plan (IEP) which outlines those accommodations.  They may include things like shortening assignments, chunking reading into smaller blocks, increased font size and more white space on the page, putting the student in the front of the class so they can hear better, or even using things like audio books and verbal instructions/clarifications.

    Bottom line, even the disabled and special ed students are still accountable for mastering the material if the are in mainstream classes.

    It seems that Trump’s IEP team has dropped the ball here.  That sort of thing would be inexcusable in a classroom setting, but I guess not in the White House.

  58. 58.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    @Kent: Less “karma” and more “predictable”. Trump wanted and needed a place where the authorities (local and State) wouldn’t help their populace and wouldn’t practice or enforce safe procedures, but had a large service, hotel & business presence to sustain his coronation party.

    Of COURSE a place like that is going to explode in infections, especially when advance teams of people start showing up.

    Karma in the sense that the GOP-run city and county of Jacksonville were jumping up and down screaming “pick me!  pick me!” when Trump was throwing his Charlotte anti-mask tantrum.   And so Trump picked basically the one large southern city with unified GOP control over any of the other choices like Atlanta or Dallas that have Dem mayors.

  59. 59.

    Just Chuck

    June 30, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    @Sab:

    Also, he can’t remember what he ate for breakfast.

    And if he did, he would lie about it anyway.

  60. 60.

    cintibud

    June 30, 2020 at 7:55 pm

    Open thread so a little bit of good news for me.

    First, my wife’s Covid test was negative and she has been feeling much better the last few days. No serious symptoms, just a slight fever and feeling totally wiped out, but has regained most of her energy.

    Also, after 11 weeks of furlough was called back to work. A number of folks weren’t so not as good of news as I would have liked. I think what made the difference in my case was I let it be know that if called back I would be retiring by the end of the year so it wasn’t like this was a long term commitment for them.

    Now I just have to remember how to work again

  61. 61.

    rp

    June 30, 2020 at 7:59 pm

    What’s Greenwald saying about all of this? I’m ashamed to admit that I’m kinda curious (although not enough to actually check his twitter feed).

  62. 62.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 30, 2020 at 8:00 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Oh I diet all day and I diet all night,
    It’s enough to drive me bats:
    Got no gravy or potatoes
    ‘Cause the whole refrigerator’s
    Full of polyunsaturated fats.

    Fare thee well, Metrecal,
    And the others of that ilk –
    Let the diet start tomorrow,
    For today I’ll drown my sorrow
    In a double malted milk!

    (Completely o/t, but you started it! :^p)

  63. 63.

    noncarborundum

    June 30, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    @Kropacetic:

    I also consume beer, but I don’t hold on to it for long.

  64. 64.

    Roger Moore

    June 30, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    @debbie:

    “Russia sending any delegates to Jacksonville this summer?”

    All of them, Katie.

  65. 65.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:01 pm

    @Kent: They may include things like shortening assignments, chunking reading into smaller blocks, increased font size and more white space on the page, putting the student in the front of the class so they can hear better, or even using things like audio books and verbal instructions/clarifications.

    You forgot “dropping their name into the material repeatedly to hold their attention.” Or is that only a thing with our self-absorbed President?

  66. 66.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 8:02 pm

    @rp:What’s Greenwald saying about all of this? I’m ashamed to admit that I’m kinda curious (although not enough to actually check his twitter feed).

    I’m not at all curious.  My life doesn’t revolve around “owning” the likes of idiot tools like Glen.   Now Glem, I might be curious to see what he is posting!

  67. 67.

    Sab

    June 30, 2020 at 8:02 pm

    @Kropacetic: Also too reading is a good skill for a leader. Charlemagne was dyslexic. Has anyone iliterate thrived since?

    All this discussion is silly. Trump’s problem isn’t his illiteracy. It is his serious personality disorder. BIG Elephant in that room. Toxic narcissistic personality disorder. Rare boring beast. Each one is like the last. Simple and unpleasant. Yearning for praise but otherwise stupid. Once  you have seen one you know one. Simple but toxic.

  68. 68.

    zhena gogolia

    June 30, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    Jonathan Coulton, “Re: Your Brains.”

  69. 69.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 8:03 pm

    @Kropacetic:You forgot “dropping their name into the material repeatedly to hold their attention.” Or is that only a thing with our self-absorbed President?

    Special ed students are typically not that self absorbed.  So that would be a special presidential accommodation I guess.

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    June 30, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    @Kent

    his coronation party

    Update that to coronanation.

    ;)

  71. 71.

    Just Chuck

    June 30, 2020 at 8:06 pm

    @Sab: I’ve read Charlemagne was just plain illiterate, which was nothing out of the ordinary at the time.  Made damn sure his son could read though.

  72. 72.

    Sab

    June 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    @Just Chuck: I hope it wasn’t live puppies.

  73. 73.

    rp

    June 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    @Kent: I don’t care about owning him, but he is a useful source of pro-Putin talking points.

  74. 74.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 8:07 pm

    @Kropacetic: The dumb thing is that there’s a good chance that Jacksonville will have to shut down and have more restrictions in place than the original site will.

    These guys can’t stop stepping on their own… tie.

  75. 75.

    SiubhanDuinne

    June 30, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    @cintibud:  Excellent news on both fronts! You and your wife must be feeling very relieved.

  76. 76.

    Just Chuck

    June 30, 2020 at 8:08 pm

    @Sab: I’m thinking something more like the Skeksis feast scene from the Dark Crystal.  His whole cabinet is there.

  77. 77.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 8:09 pm

    Do any Floridians know if Rubio has gone and fucked himself lately?  Because, seriously, he can go fuck himself.

  78. 78.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @cintibud: I’m glad your wife is feeling a bit better. That has to be a big weight off your mind – and hers.

    I have a friend who tested positive for COVID after he discovered he couldn’t taste his hazelnut creamer in his morning coffee. Super weird – and he’s feeling generally okay but scared out of his wits.

  79. 79.

    Miss Bianca

    June 30, 2020 at 8:10 pm

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: Yeah, actually, they do. I mean, if they were smart enough to sound smart, would they be working for Trump?

  80. 80.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:11 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: These guys can’t stop stepping on their own… tie.

    Well maybe if Trump wasn’t busy over-compensating by doing everything in his power to make it appear long when it isn’t so much.

  81. 81.

    J R in WV

    June 30, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    Republicans sending anyone to Moscow for this 4th of July?
    — Schooley (@Rschooley) June 29, 2020

    And when they go, is there any way we can bar them from returning?

    Yes, when they land in Moscow, revoke their passports. Hard to re-enter the nation with an invalid passport!!! Sneaky, but I would approve!

  82. 82.

    Cheryl Rofer

    June 30, 2020 at 8:12 pm

    @Kent: I’ve seen this point made by others. But I’ve also seen, early on, that briefers have accommodated to Trump’s learning (if we may call it that) style. They use more maps and pictures, etc. etc.

    That is what a good briefer would do. But Bolton reports that Trump wants to do all the talking and spews Fox garbage and conspiracy theories for much of the time. For anyone who’s watched one of Trump’s press conferences, Bolton’s report is plausible.

    Further, there’s no evidence that Trump has learned anything about anything for fifty years or so. So any PDB is an uphill climb.

    There’s a lot of wordplay in these news reports and the administration’s response. When was he briefed? Did he read the PDB? So far, we don’t know the exact form of whatever was given to him (or not, but I find that implausible). And it doesn’t matter.

    The fact is that the Russian bounty scheme seems to have gone on a long time. Trump did nothing. The defenses being mounted by administration spokespeople and Trump’s preference for playing golf all point to incompetence and indifference. That’s quite enough.

  83. 83.

    Sab

    June 30, 2020 at 8:15 pm

    @Just Chuck: I read that he tried very hard to learn to read and failed, which , what with his other accomplishments meant that he couldn’t. Lots of people learn to read late. If you cannot, that might be a learning or reading disability.

  84. 84.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:17 pm

    @E.: No, he consumes *your* intelligence whenever he speaks.

    Unpossible.  If this were so, he would have some level of evident intelligence.

  85. 85.

    Eolirin

    June 30, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    @Kropacetic: No, it’s consumed much like a fire consumes its fuel. Not absorbed, just destroyed.

  86. 86.

    Mallard Filmore

    June 30, 2020 at 8:19 pm

    @James E Powell:

     

    Can Democrats just say “no”?

    Since this was a change to the bill, I assume the House could jam it up when they resolve the differences.

    Both wings of the Capitol need to pass the same bill.

  87. 87.

    cintibud

    June 30, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: @SiubhanDuinne:

    Thanks! She really didn’t seem to be very sick, but one wonders what one *could* have caught with all the precautions we were taking if it was not the very infectious covid 19.

    I had talked myself into thinking that I wouldn’t be called back so I am still a little off balance. The good thing is I only am staying a few months and could even cut that short if I get fed up. NFLTG

  88. 88.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    @Eolirin:  No, it’s consumed much like a fire consumes it’s fuel. Not absorbed, just destroyed.

    Explains where all the hot air comes from.

  89. 89.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    @Baud:

    “The President does read and he also consumes intelligence verbally,”

    Shoves the intelligence down his Soviet shitpile mobster conman gullet like McCrappald’s hamberders.

    Also, “consumes intelligence.” Did Wasilla Wingnut bleach her hair and get contacts?

  90. 90.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 30, 2020 at 8:21 pm

    Duh!!

    "The steady stream of racist and offensive language from Trump has convinced many Americans that the president is a racist, according to recent polling." @AshleyRParker @ToluseO https://t.co/z0OsGpGHTb— Seung Min Kim (@seungminkim) June 30, 2020

  91. 91.

    Miss Bianca

    June 30, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Kein Scheisse, Scherloch!

  92. 92.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:24 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: The steady stream of racist and offensive language from Trump has convinced many Americans that the president is a racist, according to recent polling.

    Many Americans are apparently behind the curve.

  93. 93.

    joel hanes

    June 30, 2020 at 8:28 pm

     

    An auspicious omen

    Pew asked the same people in March and June if they approved of Trump’s job performance as president. Over that period 1-in-6 of those who’d approved of Trump switched their views of him. 45% of that group lived in areas hardest-hit by covid.

  94. 94.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Intelligence crystals give off a very-good-brained energy.  A Rethuglican crackpot candidate told me.

  95. 95.

    zhena gogolia

    June 30, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    Great version of 1960s Spiderman theme:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5QMj0S6O9jI&feature=em-uploademail

  96. 96.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 8:30 pm

    @Kent: Kent, in fairness, they tried by going the all-picture PDB route…it still didn’t help.

    (I know, I know…sorry)

  97. 97.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    @burnspbesq: Ladies first.

  98. 98.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Gee, thanks!  ;)

    I started remembering all sorts of his goofy little ditties.  I think I even played one of his records for my pre-teen friends back in the early eighties, thinking it was the height of comedy…

    …the teasing stopped before graduation, I think.

  99. 99.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 8:33 pm

    @Baud:

    I’ll always hate Trump most for making bad people look better in comparison.

    Same!  To hell with the entire traitorous trash crime family for a laundry list of reasons, but also for making me thinking – several times – “I wish W was President again!” (And countless apologies to countless dead Iraqis for thinking that.)

  100. 100.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 8:35 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:there’s no evidence that Trump has learned anything about anything for fifty years or so.

    So true.  He acts and speaks as if his brain is almost completely stuck in the late 70s/early 80s.

    And I still maintain that he is channeling Fred Trump’s figures of speech about half the time or better.  That cheap-wiseguy, constant-belittling thing.  Totally Fred.

  101. 101.

    joel hanes

    June 30, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    @Just Chuck:

    like the Skeksis feast scene from the Dark Crystal

     

    love that movie, and Shelley for showing it to me

    Louie Gohmert reminds me of a bald Fizzgig

    And life provides many opportunities to croon “Mmmm.  *Essence*.”

  102. 102.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    @Kropacetic:

    Balloon Juice is just way ahead of the curve.

  103. 103.

    West of the Rockies

    June 30, 2020 at 8:39 pm

    NPR has a story up about the gaps in the bounty story.  They are sooo worried about appearing objective.

  104. 104.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @Jeffro:

    @Kent: Kent, in fairness, they tried by going the all-picture PDB route…it still didn’t help.

    (I know, I know…sorry)

    Yeah.  And understand I’m not excusing any of it at all.  READING THE FUCKING PDB is one of the minimum requirements of the job.  And if he doesn’t want to do that then it is incumbent on HIM to make sure he gets the information in another format.

    He’s not a 14 year old Special Ed student with an IEP.  He’s the damn President.  I’m so sick of the lowered expectations.  If a POC or woman was sitting in his chair the fever pitch screaming about incompetence and unsuitability to the job would be at the 170 decibel level (permanent hearing loss and ear bleeding).

  105. 105.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:41 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: But Bolton reports that Trump wants to do all the talking and spews Fox garbage and conspiracy theories for much of the time. For anyone who’s watched one of Trump’s press conferences, Bolton’s report is plausible.

    Does he know who is supposed to be briefing whom?  This is consistent with the behavior I see in many, many RWNJs. They filibuster every conversation, as though they’re the only ones who know anything or deserve to be heard.  This holds true in private conversations and on panels on TV shows.

    Further, there’s no evidence that Trump has learned anything about anything for fifty years or so. So any PDB is an uphill climb.

    He can operate a Twitter machine.  That’s not nothing.

  106. 106.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    @Kropacetic: I am a native Spanish speaker. I speak English fluently and idiomatically (someone once asked me if I had inherited my accent from my parents), and due to career needs can read Italian, French, and some German. I want an American President able to at least understand one important, diplomatically speaking, foreign language. Russian, Arabic, or Chinese preferred. ONE.

    In fact, fluency in one foreign language should be a requirement for every student graduating from an American University. And no, I don’t give a rat’s ass that “bbbuttt I’m never going to uuuuuse it”. Understanding folk not like you is a sign of civilization.

  107. 107.

    Formerly disgruntled in Oregon

    June 30, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Enough!

  108. 108.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @Kent: If a POC or woman was sitting in his chair the fever pitch screaming about incompetence and unsuitability to the job would be at the 170 decibel level (permanent hearing loss and ear bleeding).

    And even if this hypothetical other President was doing his or her job diligently, a reason to scream about their incompetence would be fabricated on a daily basis.

  109. 109.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    @Emma from FL:

    Hola, chica. ¿Como estas?

  110. 110.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    @Emma from FL: The ability to handle the complexities of any language or conceptual framework should be the bare minimum we expect from a President.

    ETA: I wish I had kept up with my Spanish.  Maybe I’ll pick up one of these Spanish language children’s books from my bookshelf and brush up again.  The real problem was that I could always read and speak in Spanish, but never listen in Spanish.

  111. 111.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    @Emma from FL: Many colleges do require that you take a fair amount of language classes, but unfortunately for BS candidates you can also fulfill that requirement through specific technical writing and similar classes.

    Most of the liberal arts programs that I’ve seen require a year or two of foreign language – doesn’t matter which one. So I guess we’re halfway there.

  112. 112.

    sheila in nc

    June 30, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    @Just Chuck: 
    Only to 10, Mutthead.

  113. 113.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 8:49 pm

    @Kropacetic:

    Yo me enseño español.

    ETA: Hay muchos apps para hacer eso.

  114. 114.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @MisterForkbeard:

    @Emma from FL: Many colleges do require that you take a fair amount of language classes, but unfortunately for BS candidates you can also fulfill that requirement through specific technical writing and similar classes.

    Most of the liberal arts programs that I’ve seen require a year or two of foreign language – doesn’t matter which one. So I guess we’re halfway there.

    WA requires two years of world languages as a HS graduation requirement.  And American Sign Language is usually one of the options.  I expect others states are similar.

    Of course two years is nowhere near enough.  It should be 10 years which is how much English many students in other countries receive.

  115. 115.

    Mary G

    June 30, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    Speed up time, please FSM.

    As #ImmigrantHeritageMonth comes to a close, I want to make one thing clear: Immigrants have always made our nation stronger — our diversity is, and has always been, our greatest strength.Donald Trump doesn't get that — we need a president who does.— Joe Biden (@JoeBiden) July 1, 2020

  116. 116.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @Baud: Harta hasta los pelos cortos con el presidente. Y tu?

  117. 117.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Kropacetic:ETA: I wish I had kept up with my Spanish.  Maybe I’ll pick up one of these Spanish language children’s books from my bookshelf and brush up again.  The real problem was that I could always read and speak in Spanish, but never listen in Spanish.

    When the pandemic is finally over, take a month vacation to Guatemala or Costa Rica and enroll in a language school.  You’ll get 2-years worth of study in about a month.

  118. 118.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @zhena gogolia:

    @Amir Khalid:

    Raise you Voltaire – Brains

  119. 119.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Kropacetic: Use Duolingo. It’s free (you get a bit more for a membership). I am using it currently to convert my German from “librarianese” to actual conversation.

  120. 120.

    Amir Khalid

    June 30, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    In case anyone missed it: Dr Anthony Fauci testified to the US Senate that the way things are going, he would not be surprised to see the US reporting 100,000 new cases of Covid-19 a day.

  121. 121.

    The Moar You Know

    June 30, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    All this discussion is silly. Trump’s problem isn’t his illiteracy. It is his serious personality disorder. BIG Elephant in that room. Toxic narcissistic personality disorder. Rare boring beast. Each one is like the last. Simple and unpleasant. Yearning for praise but otherwise stupid. Once  you have seen one you know one. Simple but toxic.

    @Sab:  Agreed.  I’ve known a few people that couldn’t read.  They tend to bust their asses to make sure they understand what they need to do.

    About the rest:  bingo.  My mother’s one of the breed.  They thankfully are not common, but get this…my wife’s mother is one as well.

    We leave the county for the “holidays”.  I don’t know what the fuck we’re going to do this year, seeing as by December it will probably be worth your life to set foot outside your own home.

  122. 122.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    @MisterForkbeard: To some extent. But mostly the requirement is “learn to say this, conjugate these verbs, pass the test, you’re done.”  Who know who has a fantastic language program? U Texas Austin. You come out really fluent.

  123. 123.

    NotMax

    June 30, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    @Kent

    Plenty of good Spanish language shows/movies on Netflix or Prime.

    Re-attunes the ear to the language to listen to episodes (with English subtitles in order not to lose the plot).

  124. 124.

    Baud

    June 30, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    @Emma from FL:

    Estoy bien a pesar de todo. Noviembre no puede llegar demasiado pronto.

  125. 125.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    @Baud: Yo le pedi a mi amigo El Doctor que me llevara a Noviembre pero el muy condenado no quiso.

  126. 126.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @Emma from FL: I’ll check it out. I got the idea to use children’s books from Sonia Sotomayor, who used this method to develop fluency in English.

  127. 127.

    lollipopguild

    June 30, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @Jeffro: They kept running out of crayons.

  128. 128.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Emma from FL: Yo le pedi a mi amigo El Doctor que me llevara a Noviembre pero el muy condenado no quiso.

    I understand all the individual words here but not the full meaning.

  129. 129.

    Uncle Cosmo

    June 30, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Do not make a stingy sandwich –
    Pile the cold cuts high!
    Customers should see salami
    Coming through the rye!

    My Zelda, she found her big romance
    When I broke the zipper in my pants.
    Oy, my Zelda, she took de money and ran wit’ de tailor!

    Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila,
    Oh the day they met!
    Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila, Harvey and Sheila,
    No one will forget.
    Harvey’s a CPA, he works for IBM,
    He went to MIT and got a PhD.
    Sheila’s this girl I know at BBD&O;
    She works the PBX and makes out the checks.
    Then – came – one gray day when
    Harvey took the elevator,
    Sheila got on two floors later,
    Soon they both knew they were falling,
    Everyone heard Sheila calling
    “Ring the bell!” But they fell –
    Harv and Sheila fell in love.


    (stop me before I quote more…)

  130. 130.

    The Moar You Know

    June 30, 2020 at 9:08 pm

     He acts and speaks as if his brain is almost completely stuck in the late 70s/early 80s.

    @Jeffro: This happens to most people; especially men for some reason.  Get stuck in their glory days and just can’t adapt any further.

    My hobby job (used to be my real job) was as a musician, and the best musicians are the ones who don’t do this and the worst are the ones who do.

  131. 131.

    Formica

    June 30, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    @Sab:

    Also too reading is a good skill for a leader. Charlemagne was dyslexic. Has anyone iliterate thrived since?

    My snark detector may be malfunctioning today; that said, Governor Gavin Newsom of California is dyslexic. He memorized all the statistics and facts needed for his daily covid briefings, as he could not refer to printed notes.

  132. 132.

    noncarborundum

    June 30, 2020 at 9:09 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo:

    All day with the slaying and slewing
    and smiting and smoting like Robin Hood.
    Oh, wouldst I could kick the habit
    and give up smoting for good.

  133. 133.

    piratedan

    June 30, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    in regards to Trump reading his briefings I’m reminded of a scene from A Fish Called Wanda….

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2j3adcbEwSM

    Trump may very well read this stuff, or even have it read to him, I’m not convinced he understands it unless it relates to him personally because he can’t be bothered.

  134. 134.

    James E Powell

    June 30, 2020 at 9:16 pm

    @Redshift:

    but I would guess the judgement was that filibustering the bill funding the military in an election year for a provision that will only be enforced if we win wasn’t a good tradeoff

    That’s the all too familiar surrender without a fight that has to end.

    We have the house and we have a good reason to vote against the bill. It can be explained in language that the public will not only understand, but will likely agree with.

  135. 135.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @The Moar You Know:

    @Jeffro: This happens to most people; especially men for some reason.  Get stuck in their glory days and just can’t adapt any further.

    My hobby job (used to be my real job) was as a musician, and the best musicians are the ones who don’t do this and the worst are the ones who do.

    Yes, the truly brilliant musicians are those who can rip out material in completely different genres.  The rock guitarist who can play Chopin on piano.  The blues singer who can do Verdi.

    Obama had that talent as a president.  The great ones all do.  They are brilliant at anything you put in front of them.

    Trump on the other hand…..sigh.    At least he is shitty at being a Republican too.  There is that silver lining.  If he had McConnell’s brain we would be good and truly fucked.

  136. 136.

    James E Powell

    June 30, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @Kropacetic:

    Novellas are the best training.

  137. 137.

    NotMax

    June 30, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo

    All day, all night
    Cary Grant
    That’s all I hear from my wife
    Is Cary Grant
    What can he do
    That I can’t?
    Big deal, big star
    Cary Grant

    .

  138. 138.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 9:20 pm

    @Uncle Cosmo: Happy to stop you right there!  PLEASE

    lol

    “Harvey and Sheila”, now that’s some good storytelling right there… ;)

  139. 139.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 9:21 pm

    @James E Powell: That’s the all too familiar surrender without a fight that has to end.

    It’s an unfortunate fact of politics that it’s often very easy to portray doing the right thing as actually a bad thing.

  140. 140.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 9:22 pm

    @NotMax: oh no…Uncle Cosmo and I are not the only ones in on this nonsense(!)

  141. 141.

    NotMax

    June 30, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    @Jeffro

    Have long felt that among his most most inspired lyrics were these two lines:
    Sweetheart, you are giant size
    You are Lane Bryant size

    :)

  142. 142.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 9:36 pm

    @Kropacetic: I asked my friend The Doctor to take me to November but the damned man refused.

    Condenado literally means “the condemned (sentenced, convicted) man.” Colloquially it is used in the same way English uses damned or damn,as in “that damned pest of a cat” or “that damned snoop of a neighbor.”

  143. 143.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @Emma from FL: OK, so that’s actually how I read it.  So I guess my confusion is in how one can be taken to November.

  144. 144.

    Eolirin

    June 30, 2020 at 9:41 pm

    @Kropacetic: In a TARDIS, clearly.

    @Emma from FL: Damned woman at the moment, really.

  145. 145.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    @Eolirin: Ooooooohhhhh.  Cultural reference I didn’t recognize.

  146. 146.

    Origuy

    June 30, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    We’ve had one president who’s first language was not English. Martin Van Buren spoke Dutch until he started school.

  147. 147.

    PIGL

    June 30, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    @Baud: “consumes”…there’s your problem right there. Knowledge is not used up on aquiring it….not as when one ingests a hamberder.

    these idiots are lost.

  148. 148.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @PIGL: “consumes”…there’s your problem right there. Knowledge is not used up on aquiring it….not as when one ingests a hamberder.

    There’s that zero-sum mentality again.

  149. 149.

    Patricia Kayden

    June 30, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    Oh joy.

    President Trump is hoping for a Supreme Court vacancy as a way to boost a flagging campaign https://t.co/gibVHwVfXT pic.twitter.com/XOK9QfC9ik— CNN Politics (@CNNPolitics) July 1, 2020

  150. 150.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    @Eolirin: True and I do love her. But MY doctor will be always and forever Tom Baker, so…

  151. 151.

    Eolirin

    June 30, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @PIGL: Consume being used that way is fairly common in certain contexts. Similar to talk about media consumption, etc. More worrying is that that usually has a pretty passive connotation; we don’t want a president that just consumes intelligence briefings, we want one that engages with them.

  152. 152.

    Eolirin

    June 30, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    @Emma from FL: Capaldi gave him a run for his money, in my heart at least, but yeah, I get that.

  153. 153.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @Eolirin: Of the “new” ones, I  have a tendresse for Eccleston. His Doctor is half-mad and running from himself but cannot resist anyone in trouble.

  154. 154.

    Chyron HR

    June 30, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: 

    “Will no-one boogaloo this turbulent Ginsburg? I think you’ll be very well rewarded!”

  155. 155.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: And I’m hoping for Covid to take out at least 3 GOP senators so they no longer have a working majority to pass anything without Dem votes.  It’s not unreasonable to expect.  They don’t need to die, just be on ventilators during key votes like judicial confirmations.  It’s really only the judicial confirmations that matter because the House can already stop any horrific legislation today

    If Trump can with for a RGB to die, then we can wish for Covid to ravage the GOP Senate.

  156. 156.

    Eolirin

    June 30, 2020 at 10:01 pm

    @Emma from FL: Yeah, I loved Eccleston, wish we had been able to get more of him. But I don’t think any one else who’s been in the role of The Doctor, except maybe John Hurt, could have pulled off Heaven Sent. And that episode… that transcended the whole show.

  157. 157.

    Kent

    June 30, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    @NotMax:

    @Kent

    Plenty of good Spanish language shows/movies on Netflix or Prime.

    Re-attunes the ear to the language to listen to episodes (with English subtitles in order not to lose the plot).

    I’m a reasonably fluent Spanish speaker and i do that a lot.  It gets you tuned to the sound of the language and you pick up certain well-used phrases and words.  Like “pinche” which is used about every 5-10 seconds in every Mexican drug cartel series.  But there is no substitute for actually speaking and hearing Spanish spoken too you.

  158. 158.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 10:06 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Is Dump going to murder Gorsuch and the blackout drunk college rapist?

  159. 159.

    Ken

    June 30, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: My money would be on Roberts. He’s ruled against Trump a couple times lately, and the base is already baying for blood – though I suppose Trump only knows that if it’s been on Fox. Also, if replacing a justice gives a boost, then replacing a chief justice would be better, right?

  160. 160.

    Frankensteinbeck

    June 30, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    @Patricia Kayden:

    President Trump is hoping for a Supreme Court vacancy as a way to boost a flagging campaign

    Translation:  Depressed and feeling weak, Trump fantasizes about hurting a woman.

  161. 161.

    Jeffro

    June 30, 2020 at 10:12 pm

    Sometime soon, I hope that BJ talks about how utterly unhinged Tucker Carlson and his white power hour have become… I keep seeing clips from his show on Twitter, and it is just jaw-dropping

  162. 162.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @Jeffro: My parents love the late-night Fox lineup and I can’t go downstairs for more than 30 seconds without hearing something absolutely heinous.

  163. 163.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 10:14 pm

    @Eolirin: That is true. Heaven Sent shows the Doctor at his Gallifreyan best. “I confess I’m afraid.”

  164. 164.

    MisterForkbeard

    June 30, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    @Kropacetic: My in-laws are like that too. Luckily I dont have to live with them, but you have my sympathies. >_<

  165. 165.

    joel hanes

    June 30, 2020 at 10:34 pm

    @noncarborundum:

    This blog does not have upvotes.

    This is one.

  166. 166.

    SFAW

    June 30, 2020 at 10:36 pm

    @E.:

    No, he consumes *your* intelligence whenever he speaks.

    Like the Brain Bug, except without him getting smarter?

  167. 167.

    Argiope

    June 30, 2020 at 10:49 pm

    @mrmoshpotato: Now now, we have it on Yertle’s own authority that we’re way too close to an election to have SCOTUS replacement hearings.//

  168. 168.

    Anne Laurie

    June 30, 2020 at 11:08 pm

    @James E Powell: We have the house and we have a good reason to vote against the bill. It can be explained in language that the public will not only understand, but will likely agree with…

    But meanwhile, a lot of people in the military, and their families, will suffer long-lasting harm.  Some, especially ‘in the field’, will die.  Scientific research that depends on the military for its budget (I know, but that’s how it works) will be derailed.

    And unlike the Repubs, we Democrats care about that ‘collateral damage.’  It can (frequently is) argued that we should be hardnoses and remember that gourmet omelettes will require the breaking of human eggs, but… that’s the difference between Repubs and Democrats:  We care.

  169. 169.

    Morzer

    June 30, 2020 at 11:10 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Could be they’ve taken to writing Trump’s briefings on hamburgers to get the Obese One to absorb something.

  170. 170.

    Morzer

    June 30, 2020 at 11:12 pm

    @Emma from FL: Peter Davison is the One True Doctor. The rest are commentary.

  171. 171.

    Emma from FL

    June 30, 2020 at 11:15 pm

    @Morzer: Aha! Not. Though I will say my teenage self was… impressed.Yeah, that’s the hormonal word. Impressed.

  172. 172.

    Anne Laurie

    June 30, 2020 at 11:19 pm

    @Morzer: Could be they’ve taken to writing Trump’s briefings on hamburgers to get the Obese One to absorb something.

    You can get amazingly precise photoreproduction on edible cake frosting these days.  If the intel handlers use prints of Twitter embeds in sufficiently large fonts, the Squatter-in-Chief might actually (attempt to) read some of the words before swallowing the sheets…

  173. 173.

    jayjaybear

    June 30, 2020 at 11:31 pm

    @Kropacetic: Set parental controls to block Fox.

  174. 174.

    mrmoshpotato

    June 30, 2020 at 11:34 pm

    @Argiope: Harty har har, the only thing currently on my bucket list is pissing on the Turtle-faced Fascist Motherfucker’s grave.

    (Hopefully Dump is dumped in the ocean post-American Nuremberg trials and hanging.)

  175. 175.

    Kropacetic

    June 30, 2020 at 11:45 pm

    @jayjaybear: Best way to get kicked out of my house.

  176. 176.

    prostratedragon

    June 30, 2020 at 11:49 pm

    @Kropacetic:
    He’s been known to destroy written notes by eating them.

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