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You are here: Home / Elections / Election 2020 / RNC Con Open Thread: What of the Lowliest Minions, in Charlotte?

RNC Con Open Thread: What of the Lowliest Minions, in Charlotte?

by Anne Laurie|  August 24, 20209:33 am| 154 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, GOP Death Cult, Open Threads, Republican Stupidity, Trump Crime Cartel, Lock Him Up...Lock Them All Up

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The vast majority of Republican voters approve of the U.S. economy’s state and how the government handled the coronavirus, saying the level of deaths has been “acceptable,” a new poll shows https://t.co/WumDBTdVbX

— Bloomberg (@business) August 23, 2020

Ordinary mortals may not agree, but the Loyal 32% love their Dear Leader! And their fellow Death Cultists, too also!

“There’s some illegal hugging going on,” @HenryBarbour tells @anniekarni. “We all feel very safe because we all took a test before we came and when I got to the hotel, a lovely lady stuck a cotton swab into my brain.” https://t.co/QUGkZGkQYl

— Michael Kruse (@michaelkruse) August 23, 2020


(Write your own ‘tests came back negative’ joke)

… Keeping in place at least a piece of an in-person convention, in the original host city, has been a priority for the Republican National Committee, both symbolically and procedurally. The various R.N.C. committees must meet to complete the formal paperwork to nominate Mr. Trump by the coming deadlines. For example, Delaware, has a Tuesday deadline. And an in-person formal roll call on Monday, when 336 delegates representing 50 states, six territories and Washington, D.C., will formally renominate Mr. Trump from inside the convention center, was seen as a statement of where the party stands on lockdowns. The president and Vice President Mike Pence are expected to attend.

Even the scaled-back event has been tricky to pull off. The delegates participating were required to take at-home tests before arriving, and are being tested daily now that they are here (two people who planned to attend tested positive before traveling, and had to stay home). The R.N.C. has spent half a million dollars on tests and safety measures, according to officials, drafted a 42-page health plan, and still had to get an exemption from the state to host a large indoor gathering of out-of-towners. Convention participants on Saturday were all wearing privacy-hardened safety fobs, which are supposed to provide notifications if they come into close contact with someone infected with the coronavirus.

And they still have to abide by the rules of a city that is only in Phase 2 of reopening. Bars in Charlotte are still closed. Restaurants are allowed to open only at 50 percent capacity. Delegates are being told they can’t necessarily bring their spouses to planned dinners, and masks are required at all times, even outdoors.

But once they have entered the safe zone, delegates in town said they are here to experience a little slice of life as it used to be.

“I’ve been looking forward to this for months,” said Henry Barbour of Yazoo City, Miss., whose uncle is the former Mississippi Governor Haley Barbour. “I want to be part of this. For those of us who are really engaged, this is a reward.”…

The Republican National Committee doesn’t expect people to sit in their hotel rooms ordering room service once they are here and has tried to make the trip worth it for its members. It has rented out four venues for attendees to choose from for each night they are here: the Billy Graham Library; a tour of a local brewery; a night at Middle C Jazz, a live jazz venue; and an evening at TopGolf, which has a high-tech driving range…

They’ll have time to spare, because there won’t be any wasted on hammering out a platform:

I mean, seriously, what the hell is this? pic.twitter.com/1BDIgLSziG

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) August 24, 2020

Kneel before Zod. https://t.co/n9xuVbMWaj

— Kieran Healy (@kjhealy) August 24, 2020

Criticism of Democrats: “You’ve got to run on more than just ‘we’re not Trump’”

Meanwhile, Republicans: “We believe in nothing and are running on literally nothing more than just supporting whatever the Mad King decides he believes in on a particular day.” https://t.co/iF5HwURBE8

— Parker Molloy (@ParkerMolloy) August 24, 2020

Leaving more time to document the latest Emmanuel Goldstein…

The Republican National Committee is set to approve a resolution at its meeting in Charlotte "Refuting the legitimacy of the Southern Poverty Law Center to identify hate groups," saying the group "puts conservative groups or voices at risk of attack"

— Zeke Miller (@ZekeJMiller) August 23, 2020

And commit acts of self-pwnage.

The official operating platform of the Republican Party in 2020 declares: "The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen." pic.twitter.com/4e05FSs28b

— Kevin M. Kruse (@KevinMKruse) August 24, 2020

And they love and admire Him for it!

Trump has no second-term goals other than getting a second term, and Republicans have no interest in antagonizing him by saying he has goals he doesn’t.

So both parts of the party—the Trumps & their servants—have settled on a cult of personality as a matter of convenience. https://t.co/v2kxHVsq29

— Matt O'Brien (@ObsoleteDogma) August 24, 2020

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  1. 1.

    Marcopolo

    August 24, 2020 at 9:59 am

    Good morning all.

    House Post Office oversight hearing starts in a couple minutes. Hope Katie Porter is given extra time.

    Going to find a livestream now.

  2. 2.

    Roger Moore

    August 24, 2020 at 10:00 am

    This is not a political party; it’s a personality cult. The Democrats need to stand up and say it in those words every time they get a chance.

  3. 3.

    Brendan in NC

    August 24, 2020 at 10:04 am

    As a Charlottean, need to find out which brewery they’re touring; so I can go in with my mask on, and roast them.

  4. 4.

    TS (the original)

    August 24, 2020 at 10:05 am

    The R.N.C. has spent half a million dollars on tests and safety measures, according to officials

    For a place where trump is not appearing? I have my doubts.

  5. 5.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 24, 2020 at 10:07 am

    The Republican Party is running on the screaming primal tantrum of whites and especially white men who are angry that they no longer have absolute power to decide what is and is not true, who suffers and who prospers, what is and is not acceptable, and most important what is ‘normal.’  They need no policies, only ‘fuck you’ to anyone who dares to tell them they are wrong about anything or cannot get their way.  If everyone else hates Trump, then nothing is more important than forcing Trump on us against our will.  ‘Against our will’ is the point and Trump is just the thing we don’t want.

  6. 6.

    kmeyerthelurker

    August 24, 2020 at 10:08 am

    So, yeah.  “L’etat c’est moi.”  That’s the platform.

  7. 7.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 10:08 am

    @Marcopolo:

     CSPAN has it.

  8. 8.

    laura

    August 24, 2020 at 10:11 am

    Really, wasn’t it always destined to come down to this? Tom Cotton and serial killer Ted Cruz must be so jealous.

  9. 9.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 10:11 am

    @TS (the original): It says Trump and Pence will both be there Monday for the roll-call of states. So they may not bother testing after Monday.

    It would be absolutely on-point if someone turns up positive today and they have to cancel the roll call.

  10. 10.

    Amir Khalid

    August 24, 2020 at 10:16 am

    “The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.”

    Whatever you may think of the rest of the Republican platform, you can’t deny that this sentence describes the Trump administration with honesty and accuracy.

  11. 11.

    zhena gogolia

    August 24, 2020 at 10:17 am

    They’ve spent “half a million” on tests and procedures. You’re kidding, right? That’s chicken feed.

  12. 12.

    Roger Moore

    August 24, 2020 at 10:19 am

    Trump’s new walk-up music.

  13. 13.

    Joe Falco

    August 24, 2020 at 10:26 am

    @laura: OH, I’m sure those two will get their chance to advance the Lost Cause of Trump-ism in 4 years if the election results break our way. With any luck, Republicans will host a committee amongst themselves like they did after the 2012 election, draw up a long-term plan to revive their reputation and quickly toss it in the trash before the ink has time to dry.

  14. 14.

    Chief Oshkosh

    August 24, 2020 at 10:26 am

    @Brendan in NC: I would not do that unless you have an N95 mask for actual protection. They sure as shit won’t be wearing masks properly to protect others.

  15. 15.

    TS (the original)

    August 24, 2020 at 10:26 am

    @Ken:  I do have it turned on – haven’t seen them yet. I wonder how many republicans will miss the roll call thinking it will be on in the evening.

    Currently have the Romney cousin (who lost her name) ranting  …  Mute. She just announced a recess – awaiting “special guests” & the delegates are now wandering around, maskless (except for a couple of people) , shaking hands

    Edit: closer look – there are more masks than I thought.

  16. 16.

    Marcopolo

    August 24, 2020 at 10:27 am

    Connolly should stop speechifying & ask questions!

    You want to make a speech, write it up & submit it to the record.  But for god’s sake use your time to ask fucking questions.

    What the hell is wrong with these folks.

    Edited: Yutsano is correct. I am being impatient.

  17. 17.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 10:30 am

    @Marcopolo: It’s opening statements. The questions are coming.

  18. 18.

    Jinchi

    August 24, 2020 at 10:33 am

    the Billy Graham Library; a tour of a local brewery; a night at Middle C Jazz, a live jazz venue; and an evening at TopGolf

    Imagine planning a vacation and having the travel agent try to sell you that package.

  19. 19.

    randy khan

    August 24, 2020 at 10:34 am

    For what it’s worth, I think the previous “we just say what we said in 2016” version of the platform has been replaced by the “Trump is our all-knowing God” version of the platform (or non-platform).

    And if that’s correct, it means that for the first time since 1972, the platform will not include a demand to adopt a Constitutional amendment banning abortion.  That’s a real testament to how hollowed-out the party has become under Trump (although I doubt it will affect how any of the anti-choice fanatics will vote).

  20. 20.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 24, 2020 at 10:35 am

    @kmeyerthelurker:

    One People, One Nation, One Leader

  21. 21.

    TS (the original)

    August 24, 2020 at 10:37 am

    Looking at these delegates, without fail, Biden has the youth vote. I see few, if any, people under 50.

  22. 22.

    john b

    August 24, 2020 at 10:38 am

    @Brendan in NC: I need to find out which brewery they’re going to so that I never patronize it again. I have a couple of hunches that I’ll keep to myself for now.

  23. 23.

    blacque_jacques

    August 24, 2020 at 10:39 am

    @Roger Moore: Not “Stranglehold” by Ted Nugent?

  24. 24.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 10:39 am

    @Jinchi: The Billy Graham library and the brewery reminds me of the old joke about the difference between Baptists and [insert denomination]: The Baptists don’t say “hi” to one another in the liquor store.

  25. 25.

    Calouste

    August 24, 2020 at 10:40 am

    @randy khan: Still, it might not hurt to point that out to any single issue voters you know.

  26. 26.

    Shalimar

    August 24, 2020 at 10:41 am

    When they die, we need to put “This was acceptable” on all their tombstones.

  27. 27.

    Richard Guhl

    August 24, 2020 at 10:41 am

    IOW, the GOP has gone full on reactionary Bolshevik, a minority party dedicated to the overthrow of democracy. Democratic centralism decreed by the First Secretary.

  28. 28.

    Bruce K

    August 24, 2020 at 10:44 am

    Seeing the GOP kowtow to Trump put me in mind of an old clip from “The IT Crowd”: “The Greatest Man In The World”.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ejfYttZCnps

    Am I a bad person for hoping that Donald Trump follows the trajectory of Denholm Reynholm all the way to the end?

  29. 29.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 24, 2020 at 10:45 am

    German authorities say Alexei Navalny was poisoned. I know you’re all shocked, so I’ll give you some time to absorb the news.

  30. 30.

    RobertDSC-iPhone 8

    August 24, 2020 at 10:45 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: 
    Ein Volk, Ein Reich, Ein Fuhrer.

  31. 31.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 24, 2020 at 10:47 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: That sounds so familiar… Maybe I’m thinking of it in a different language?

  32. 32.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 24, 2020 at 10:47 am

    @blacque_jacques:

    Jailbait by Ted Nugent, followed by an invocation delivered by Roy Moore.

    Falwell is indisposed at the moment, huddled as he is with his divorce lawyers for misrepresenting  his hotwife’s activities as indiscretions while he was really reveling in his own cuckoldry.

  33. 33.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 10:48 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I’ll give you some time to absorb the news.

    I think we’ve all absorbed enough poison, no?

    ETA I do not think I want Siberian Doctors to treat me for anything including a scratch.

  34. 34.

    japa21

    August 24, 2020 at 10:49 am

    Watching the hearing. Do Republicans, either the MoCs or witnesses ever speak in a normal tone of voice?

  35. 35.

    Baud

    August 24, 2020 at 10:50 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    Any clue about who would do such a thing?

  36. 36.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 10:51 am

    @Baud: Maybe a botched attempted suicide?

  37. 37.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 10:52 am

    @Baud: A plot hatched by the White Russians using their Lumpenproletariat stooges?

  38. 38.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 10:52 am

    @japa21: Mark Walker is hamming up DeJoy’s tax breaks- oh no sorry his “charity giving”. Now he’s trying to blab about how DeJoy is the victim. Gag.

  39. 39.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 24, 2020 at 10:53 am

    @japa21: NO, WHY DO YOU ASK?

  40. 40.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 24, 2020 at 10:53 am

    @Baud: Early reports were that it was the Americans or the British, doing it to make Russia look bad.

  41. 41.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 10:54 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: You serious about Falwell?  I mean the “huddled with divorce lawyers” part, not the indiscretions.

  42. 42.

    MattF

    August 24, 2020 at 10:54 am

    @Gin & Tonic: I guess it’s worth noting that Putin & Co. want to be sure everyone knows. It would be crude and perhaps not believable to say it themselves, but an announcement by German officials suffices.

  43. 43.

    Brendan in NC

    August 24, 2020 at 10:55 am

    @Chief Oshkosh: I’ve got some KN95 masks. I just wish that the Spaceballs mask I ordered was here. The one that says “I’m surrounded by a$$holes” on it

  44. 44.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 10:55 am

    Ugh. Could DeJoy sound any more like a mook?

    EDIT: we need a thread on this.

  45. 45.

    zhena gogolia

    August 24, 2020 at 10:55 am

    @Gin & Tonic:

    I have Claude Rains on hold.

  46. 46.

    PPCLI

    August 24, 2020 at 10:58 am

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: Yep. Whose only principle is now officially only the “leader principle”

  47. 47.

    PPCLI

    August 24, 2020 at 11:00 am

    @RobertDSC-iPhone 8:Yep. Whose only principle is now officially only the “Führerprinzip”.

  48. 48.

    Al Z.

    August 24, 2020 at 11:00 am

    OT: Border Wall II: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver

    Just finished watching this segment: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZRE6uVMDAo

    The details of this grift are mind-blowing. Definitely watch if you haven’t already.

  49. 49.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 11:00 am

    one site to watch the live hearing;  DeJoy is being grilled by Maloney.  https://www.npr.org/2020/08/24/904435736/watch-postmaster-general-dejoy-testifies-in-house-oversight-hearingwhere

  50. 50.

    Jinchi

    August 24, 2020 at 11:02 am

    @Bruce K: Am I a bad person for hoping that Donald Trump follows the trajectory of Denholm Reynholm all the way to the end?

    Well, his office is only about 10 feet off the ground, so technically you’re just rooting for injuries.

  51. 51.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:04 am

    @Aleta: I switched to that because I was on a delay on C-SPAN.

    DeJoy just lied twice. And Virginia Foxx looks terrible.

  52. 52.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 11:08 am

    @Aleta:

    DeJoy (all-purpose answer):  I just got here 70 days ago so  those recent numbers aren’t my fault and I expect much better numbers soon

    Reality:  USPS management in DC (following orders)  are on the phone this morning yelling at individual plant managers and threatening their jobs if they don’t report better numbers.

  53. 53.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 24, 2020 at 11:08 am

    @Ken:

    This weekend, he blamed his depression on the fact that she fucked the pool boy and that the pool boy was extorting them. Interestingly absent from the announcement was Becki herself, as it was allegedly her scandal.

    I really think that she started an affair (repressed attractive evangelical woman who wanted to have the experience of being with a man who didn’t just grunt and roll over, maybe didn’t even want to end the marriage). The thing developed into a hotwife-cuckold bit once Jerry found out, and likely evolved on to swaps from there.

    Whatever floats your boat, sure, but when your entire fortune is based on propagating a system of moral scolding on both the social and governmental levels, it creates conundrums.

    At Free Republic, they’re blaming it on changes in female morality wrought by The Pill.

  54. 54.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 11:09 am

    @Yutsano: He’s lying and omitting about their orders re: the  trucks too.

  55. 55.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 11:11 am

    Another lie, this time about overtime.

  56. 56.

    Leto

    August 24, 2020 at 11:12 am

    Open thread? Finally got hit with my health insurance coverage bill. Basically Pennsylvania Air National Guard was paying the full amount since my accident, but now that I’m no longer employed with them (and making my co-payment) I/we don’t have insurance. Same with dental/vision. And they want their money back. We’re exploring either getting onto Avalune’s work insurance, or signing up with TRICARE. I’m going to restate the obvious but American health insurance just fucking sucks. Having it tied to employment, sucks.

  57. 57.

    chopper

    August 24, 2020 at 11:12 am

    gop: dems can’t just run on ‘we’re not trump’.

    also gop: we’re going to run on ‘we’re with trump’.

  58. 58.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    August 24, 2020 at 11:14 am

    @chopper:

    Trump Mitt Uns

  59. 59.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:15 am

    @Aleta: He just told a big whopper regarding the restrictions on overtime. He’s dissembling all over the place.

    EDIT: Gosar up now. Gag me.

  60. 60.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 11:16 am

    It’s odd how,  about a month or so from now, the yearly process of part-time hiring for the holiday season will begin. But this can’t be done now for the election?

  61. 61.

    Another Scott

    August 24, 2020 at 11:17 am

    Meanwhile, …

    Might want to turn off your geotag there, comrade. pic.twitter.com/9Nl7xS618B

    — Tyler Krakoabee (@TylerHuckabee) February 21, 2018

    Heh. Totally unexpected!!11ONE

    (via Popehat)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  62. 62.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:21 am

    @Aleta: “Everything else I had nothing to do with.”

    What was with the stupid Pony Express question?

  63. 63.

    Another Scott

    August 24, 2020 at 11:22 am

    You can’t surge trust. – Adm. James Stavridis (ret.)

    Yup.

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  64. 64.

    Geminid

    August 24, 2020 at 11:26 am

    @randy khan: I hope the day comes when Right to Lifers understand that a lot of Republican politicians are just barking at the Right to Choose car, but don’t really want to catch it. But the politicians want the Right to Lifers they’re barking alongside to think that they do in fact want to catch the car, so the Republicans can recruit these people to the cause of economic oligarchy.

  65. 65.

    Baud

    August 24, 2020 at 11:26 am

    OT. Out own DougJ gets a shout out from the good folks at LGM.  Scroll to the bottom of the post.

  66. 66.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 11:28 am

    Rep Lynch’s statement should be printed as op eds.  Should be used in ads against the Rs.

  67. 67.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 11:28 am

    @Marcopolo:  Everyone but Katie Porter:  (in my dreams)

    I hereby cede my time to Katie Porter.

  68. 68.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:31 am

    @Aleta: BLAME OBAMA! DRINK!!!

    EDIT: why is he blabbing about over voter registration?

  69. 69.

    Baud

    August 24, 2020 at 11:38 am

    @Baud: first out = our.

  70. 70.

    Jinchi

    August 24, 2020 at 11:41 am

    @Yutsano: why is he blabbing about over voter registration?

    I’d guess that’s a tell.

  71. 71.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:45 am

    @Jinchi: Cooper is going off topic but the empty trucks data was a big one.

    Oh that’s ugly. But there is something going on there.

    Who the hell is Stuby?

  72. 72.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:50 am

    So now DeJoy is trying to blame election boards for election delays???

  73. 73.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 11:53 am

    “I’m not the CEO of the organisation.”

    No you’re the fucking Postmaster General. That means you’re fucking responsible for the God blessed Postal Service!

  74. 74.

    LuciaMia

    August 24, 2020 at 12:00 pm

    The Billy Graham Library? Sounds like a wild time.

  75. 75.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 12:03 pm

    This hearing calls for questioning by lawyers and follow-up perjury charges.    And questions to him about interactions with Mnuchin.

  76. 76.

    Aleta

    August 24, 2020 at 12:05 pm

    @Aleta:  Ok, happening now ….

  77. 77.

    Chacal Charles Calthrop

    August 24, 2020 at 12:10 pm

    that McCloskey couple scheduled to speak at RNC?

    what lovely human beings they have turned out to be, based on court records: https://www.thedailybeast.com/mark-and-patricia-mccloskey-st-louis-gun-couple-evicted-tenants-sued-neighborhood-smashed-bee-colony?source=facebook&via=desktop&fbclid=IwAR1qcpnwl56Hz5y8rDPLjt6NQPz8oj8mty5uDYLOpjVhPFlOovSmFQsWvdg

  78. 78.

    germy

    August 24, 2020 at 12:14 pm

    “Home to our greatest segregationists… uh, I mean abolitionists…”

    The RNC is completely beyond parody pic.twitter.com/ksuRuZp0Iz— Aaron Rupar (@atrupar) August 24, 2020

  79. 79.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 12:17 pm

    @Yutsano: Is he testifying under oath?

    Because if not, that was a huge tactical error on our side.

  80. 80.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 12:18 pm

    @Aleta: Let me check my calendar… I thought the election came BEFORE Christmas.  :-)

  81. 81.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 12:20 pm

    @Baud: Thanks for that!

    Did the Democratic National Convention Go Too Smoothly?  | The New Yorker

    I have to say that I expect better from the The New Yorker.

  82. 82.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 24, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    @Geminid:

    I don’t think Republican politicians are pretending.  They consistently fight tooth and claw, with more deviousness and persistence than any other issue except voter suppression, to outlaw abortion.  Republican politics is hate and identity.  Republican voters elect assholes like themselves.  Republican elected officials are not a separate pool from their voters, and most of them share the same beliefs.

  83. 83.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 12:21 pm

    @WaterGirl:  DeJoy is testifying under oath.

  84. 84.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    @Yutsano:  You can brag about trucks going out on time, even if they are empty trucks.

    Because who is gonna think to ask “did you actually have mail in those trucks, you lying bastard?”

  85. 85.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    @germy: So far the RNC roll call looks like it’s going to be a parade of 60-year-old white men, with maybe 10% of anything else.

    EDIT: Photographic evidence from Cheryl below.  grumble @#$% front-pagers grumble grumble special powers grumble grumble oppressing me grumble

  86. 86.

    Cheryl Rofer

    August 24, 2020 at 12:22 pm

    2020 Roll Call of States:

    Left: #DemConvention (AK, AZ, CO & HI)

    Right: #RNC2020 (AK, AZ, CO & HI) pic.twitter.com/nJJXbIFJcj

    — Jeremy Art (@cspanJeremy) August 24, 2020

  87. 87.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    @Yutsano: Wow.  So we know now that he IS both stupid and evil.

  88. 88.

    germy

    August 24, 2020 at 12:23 pm

    TFW you say the quiet part out loud. https://t.co/mrtA8Yu9xp

    — Centrism Fan Acct ? (@Wilson__Valdez) August 24, 2020

  89. 89.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 12:24 pm

    The USPS will deliver the ballots. They’re a tiny portion of the volume they deliver day in and day out and in terms of mail pieces they’re easy because they’re 1. identifiable as ballots on the outside of the envelope and 2. all going to the same place in any given area on the return trip.

    This is such a bad political issue for conservatives I feel like it’s almost a wash- they will lose as many actual votes as they’ll potentially gain from trying to depress our count.

    If I were trying it I wouldn’t focus on the ballots. Just tell people over and over that Trump is delaying their mail- it’s true. Donald Trump is the reason your mail is delayed. They already know the mail is delayed- tell them why. That takes care of the ballot problem and dings them on the delaying the mail charge, which is probably more relevant and important to more people than concerns about ballots are.

  90. 90.

    Frankensteinbeck

    August 24, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    My god, our delegates are adorable.  That includes the old men.

  91. 91.

    WaterGirl

    August 24, 2020 at 12:26 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: New York Times sees that and writes a story:

    “Why doesn’t the Democratic Party have enough white men?”

  92. 92.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 12:27 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck:  On the state level yes. But national Republicans? Not so much.

  93. 93.

    artem1s

    August 24, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    @Amir Khalid:

    “The current Administration has exceeded its constitutional authority, brazenly and flagrantly violated the separation of powers, sought to divide America into groups and turn citizen against citizen.”

    It was taken verbatim from the 2016 platform.  It’s about what a dictator Obama is for giving people health care and vegetables.

  94. 94.

    Joe Falco

    August 24, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer:

    The old white guy wearing the lei to show he’s from Hawaii is the saddest-looking one of the bunch.

  95. 95.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 24, 2020 at 12:28 pm

    @Cheryl Rofer: Wow, look at the diversity from the RNC.

  96. 96.

    germy

    August 24, 2020 at 12:29 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: 
    I watched the Democratic Convention.

    When they got to the roll call of the states, I thought “I don’t know if I want to sit through this.” But then I got caught up in it and watched the whole thing.

  97. 97.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 12:30 pm

    @WaterGirl: DougJ is gonna sting you for stealing his schtick.

  98. 98.

    LuciaMia

    August 24, 2020 at 12:31 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Did the Democratic National Convention Go Too Smoothly?

    Good Lord, like saying: “Was that surgery TOO successful?”

  99. 99.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    August 24, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    I know this will come as a shock, but Trump is the Republican nominee.

  100. 100.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 12:34 pm

    I know Democrats love the election argument, democracy, all that, and that’s certainly high minded but mail delivery is a service and it is one people expect and rely upon.

    Tell them why the service sucks with the Trump people running it. Gary Peters, the senator from Michigan, has a lovely little chart that shows mail delivery slowing dramatically when the low quality Trump hire took over. Voting is a service too- it’s a state recording process. Conservatives run shitty, low quality voting services and they work as hard as they can to make voting horrible and inconvenient FOR VOTERS. What’s easiest for voters? Our approach to voting- not theirs.

    The expansions on voting aren’t popular because people are committed to democracy. They’re popular because they’re more convenient and voter-centered than voter suppression is. Voter suppression is for politicians. Voter access is for voters.

  101. 101.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    The hearing is on break right now.

  102. 102.

    catclub

    August 24, 2020 at 12:36 pm

    @Frankensteinbeck: Terry Gross and fresh Air this morning are interviewing a biographer of Stephen Miller – who mainlined David Horowitz’s extreme ‘save the white men’ neo nazism into the GOP.

  103. 103.

    NotMax

    August 24, 2020 at 12:37 pm

    @BillinGlendaleCA

    Spoiler!

  104. 104.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 24, 2020 at 12:38 pm

    Reuters interviews Giancarlo Granda, the Fallwells’ pool boy, who says the “affair” was going on for 7 years. He’d bone the Mrs while Jerry watched.

  105. 105.

    PPCLI

    August 24, 2020 at 12:40 pm

    @Kay: Yes, yes, a million times yes.

    The message that Trump’s administration is incompetent and can’t even get people their medicines must be shouted from the rooftops.

  106. 106.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    I mean, you could argue both, but DO argue both.

    Argue that black people waiting on lines for hours and hours in conservative states is lousy citizen service, in addition to being anti-democratic and racist :)

    We can be outraged that they’re denying the franchise, but let’s also be outraged that the people waiting to vote are paying these jerks to administer elections  and they’re not getting the job done. The job is to get people voted and get them on their way.

    Same with mail. The mail worked and then it didn’t work. They broke it. If they did that to delay ballots it’s egregious but fucking up the mail is bad all by itself.

  107. 107.

    PPCLI

    August 24, 2020 at 12:41 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Ah. So that’s what Fallwell was trying to get out in front of.

    Presumably after the interview was in the can, Reuters called Falwell to see if he had any reaction or response.

  108. 108.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 12:44 pm

    @PPCLI:

    Republicans in Ohio tried to get rid of early voting for partisan purposes but they found out quickly that they can’t get rid of it- not because people are so concerned about Democratic vote totals but because early vote is convenient and easy. It’s a better process. It’s centered on what voters need, not what politicians need. That’s why it’s expanded so rapidly even in the face of ferocious conservative opposition. People like it!

  109. 109.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 12:45 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Cuing the evangelical roll-out of Matthew 7:1-5 (“judge not lest ye be judged”) in five, four, three…

    Which of course gets the message completely backward, since Falwell was just fine at seeing the mote in other’s eyes, especially when it led to fining students for breaking the Liberty U. code of conduct.

    (Must… refrain… from… crude… sex joke… about the beam… in his eye….)

  110. 110.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @Joe Falco: That’s because he has lived a hard life

  111. 111.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 24, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @PPCLI: Reading their story, yes. They reached out to Jerry for comment, and his lawyer said he categorically denies all of it, then when they knew it was going to print, he came out with his, what was it called, “modified limited hang-out”?

  112. 112.

    Another Scott

    August 24, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @LuciaMia: I understand that back in Ye Olden Days in the early Before Times, it was common for surgeons to congratulate themselves on their successful surgery while saying “it’s a shame that the patient died.”

    I suspect there will be similar sentiments at the GOP “convention” this week…  :-/

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  113. 113.

    zhena gogolia

    August 24, 2020 at 12:47 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: 
    These evangelicals are the kinkiest people around.

  114. 114.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 12:48 pm

    @Kay: Yes, but, federal elections have lost money every two years!!

  115. 115.

    Emma from FL

    August 24, 2020 at 12:49 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: Good Lord Cthulhu, stop. It’s tawdry. Vulgar. Not worthy of time and space between our ears.

  116. 116.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 12:50 pm

    The hearing is back.

    Massie just babbled. Rouda I’ve never heard before but he brings up the letter sent to the 46 states.

    OOH ROUDA JUST BROUGHT UP THE PRE-FUND!!!

  117. 117.

    zhena gogolia

    August 24, 2020 at 12:51 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    Their political coverage sucks. Very New York Times-ish.

  118. 118.

    Gin & Tonic

    August 24, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    @zhena gogolia: This is pretty low on the kink scale, frankly. And lest there be misunderstanding, I hope that that threesome made them happy – consenting adults should do what makes them feel good and doesn’t harm others. But when you’re going to go on and on about moral rectitude, and run an institution that has a platform of prohibiting this sort of behavior, well too fucking bad, dude, your kink is fair game.

  119. 119.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    @PPCLI:

    The drop boxes. Conservatives want you to drive all the way in to the main office of the county board of elections to drop your ballot. We, on the other hand, will get you a convenient, secure drop box closer to where you live because we know you’re busy and stressed and we’re here to serve you :)

    Painless voting. They insist on needless pain and inconvenience and they’re SO fucking incompetent you have to take an entire day off work just to vote. No one knows why, but we suspect it’s because they care more about their politicians than they do about voters.

  120. 120.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 12:53 pm

    @Ken: I’m with Jeet Heer on this one — people shouldn’t be kink shaming Falwell, but should let loose on his hypocrisy.

    ETA The Chauncey Gardner defense — “I like to watch.”

  121. 121.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 12:56 pm

    @Gin & Tonic: This

  122. 122.

    J R in WV

    August 24, 2020 at 12:59 pm

    I have nothing against people having group entanglements of a physical sexual nature… when they are frankly open to people having group sex.

    But when people want to have group sex themselves, while offering to burn other people at the stake for having group sex, punishing large groups of people for doing what they themselves do behind closed doors, that’s very different. We have words for that kind of behavior, words like Hypocrite and Deceiver and Liar ~!!~

    Such a person, a lying hypocrite, should never have anything to do with educating people, setting up rules structures for people in school, none of that, they are so obviously unqualified for that task. Plus being a thief, stealing money from an educational institution~!~

  123. 123.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    @Immanentize: That’s what I intended – pointing out the hypocrisy, I mean. Sorry if it didn’t come through.

    I wouldn’t kink-shame, their fantasy is common – ahem, I understand from reading scholarly studies. Why, I’m sure the porn industry will release at least three movies based on this within a month. Wonder who will play “Jerky Fail-Well”?

  124. 124.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 24, 2020 at 1:00 pm

    @Yutsano: Harley Rouda, recent convert who beat Dana Rohrbacher in a very close race

  125. 125.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    @Immanentize: This doesn’t even sound like a traditional cuck situation. This just sounds like he liked the idea of the poolboy fucking his wife while he watched.

    LOL Hice was trying to get De Joy to say the postal service workers were biased against Republicans and DeJoy wouldn’t play along.

  126. 126.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:02 pm

    @Ken: I was agreeing with you!

    Someone wag on Twitter wrote: “I didn’t laugh when I read about Falwell, but I cuckold.”

  127. 127.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:03 pm

    @Yutsano: at least DeJoy understands he needs a job after December 31

  128. 128.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 1:05 pm

    Thrilled to see political media are covering every word of the Republican convention, in a wildly disparate fashion compared to their coverage of the Democratic convention.

    The real Americans are convening. Obviously.

  129. 129.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 1:05 pm

    @Immanentize: at least DeJoy understands he needs a job after December 31

    I thought he has a job, running a company that transports mail for the postal service.

  130. 130.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:06 pm

    @Ken: not after December 31….

    dawg willing.

  131. 131.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    @Immanentize:

    Has he explained yet why he’s supposedly a “logistics guy” yet he managed to fuck up a 200 year old delivery service? How incompetent do you have to be to destroy it in 3 months? All he had to do was stay out of the way and let them deliver the mail.

  132. 132.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:07 pm

    @Kay: I’m not being facetious — are they covering more?  I wasn’t tuning in to them last week, and I’m still not.

  133. 133.

    Another Scott

    August 24, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    ?This docket just opened in New York County Supreme Court:

    The People of the State of New York, by @NewYorkStateAG v. The Trump Organization, Inc. et al

    The AG's petition does not appear to be currently available. @CourthouseNews pic.twitter.com/nCdhHOqSQh— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) August 24, 2020

    … gradually, and then suddenly…

    (via Popehat)

    Cheers,
    Scott.

  134. 134.

    chopper

    August 24, 2020 at 1:08 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes:

    trump/mittens 2020! wait…

  135. 135.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 24, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    wasn’t there also a recent “Liberty U” grad that Jerry helped set up in business as a personal trainer?

    what is it with the fundies and their dynasties? Franklin Graham, JFJR? Is there a Pat Robertson Jr waiting for the old man to check out, probably a III? There could be a IV, maybe even a V the way they encourage them to marry and breed young. Pat could be like the Louis XIV of bible-bashing, supplement-selling grifters, outliving his heirs and leaving a five year old as CEO.

  136. 136.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    @Kay: He had nothing to do with anything!  He isn’t in charge of every machine!  The plans were made before he came on board!  He is just CEO, NOT COO!

    Im sadly not exaggerating, he said each of those things.

    He is the Sgt Schultz of the post office.

  137. 137.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 1:09 pm

    @Immanentize:  He can go back to running the company he still has an investment in. I still think his hiring is going to have legal consequences for the Postal Service board.

  138. 138.

    James E Powell

    August 24, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    Why aren’t there more demands that DeJoy resign? He’s a fraud, a liar, and a saboteur.

  139. 139.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 24, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    @Immanentize: just checked MSNBC, trump is speaking

    Chyron: Without evidence, trump claims he can only lose if election is ‘rigged’

  140. 140.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 1:13 pm

    “You came as one of the most qualified candidates we other had.”

    Comer is about to make me puke.

    EDIT: Mfume looks like he’s getting up there. But now he’s laying into DeJoy especially with veterans.

  141. 141.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:14 pm

    @Yutsano: from your typing fingers to Future federal prosecutors.

  142. 142.

    Immanentize

    August 24, 2020 at 1:15 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: D. Dale said he also told a fake “Sir” story about how most President’s are left with no judicial vacancies to fill.

  143. 143.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 1:18 pm

    @Another Scott: Check out the longer list of defendants (or would it be respondents, IANAL) in that motion.

    People [of the State of New York] v. The Trump Organization, Inc., DJT Holdings LLC, DJT Holdings Managing Member LLC, Seven Springs, LLC, Eric Trump, Charles Martabano, Morgan, Lewis & Bockius LLP, and Sheri Dillon

  144. 144.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    August 24, 2020 at 1:22 pm

    @Immanentize:

    Tom Nichols @RadioFreeTom 6m
    I need to do some work here and have Trump on in the background. Short version: Three “sir” moments already; also, how China has been made to buy our soybeans and bend the knee. He’s doing his play-acting voices and I think he’s high.

    Fourth “sir” moment, this time from farmers calling to thank him.

  145. 145.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 1:32 pm

    Say what you want about Wasserman-Schultz, but she is ripping DeJoy a new one.

  146. 146.

    Ken

    August 24, 2020 at 1:37 pm

    @Another Scott: I think this is from the same document:

    OAG is currently investigating whether the Trump Organization and Donald J. Trump (Mr. Trump) improperly inflated the value of Mr. Trump’s assets on annual financial statements in order to secure loans and obtain economic and tax benefits.

    It continues by saying the defendants have failed to respond to document requests, and asks the court to compel them.

  147. 147.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 1:38 pm

    I have no idea which Republican is babbling but again DeJoy isn’t on the same page.

    Sarbanes time!

  148. 148.

    catclub

    August 24, 2020 at 1:42 pm

    @James E Powell: Why aren’t there more demands that DeJoy resign? He’s a fraud, a liar, and a saboteur.

     

    because these people know that Trump’s next pick will be worse.

     

    There were also no calls for trump to resign over impeachment.

    Clinton?  a ton.

  149. 149.

    Soprano2

    August 24, 2020 at 1:54 pm

    @Kay: The drop boxes. Conservatives want you to drive all the way in to the main office of the county board of elections to drop your ballot. We, on the other hand, will get you a convenient, secure drop box closer to where you live because we know you’re busy and stressed and we’re here to serve you :)

    Painless voting. They insist on needless pain and inconvenience and they’re SO fucking incompetent you have to take an entire day off work just to vote. No one knows why, but we suspect it’s because they care more about their politicians than they do about voters.

    Here’s what happened with drop boxes in Missouri – they’re all in storage because our stupid legislature actually wrote a law saying you can put absentee but not mail-in ballots in them!  They authorized no excuse mail-in ballots for everyone because of COVID (we’re still an absentee excuse-only state) but then said they’re different from absentee ballots. https://www.stltoday.com/news/local/govt-and-politics/85-ballot-drop-boxes-in-missouri-are-in-storage-due-to-confusion-over-mail-in/article_6aad4622-89f7-577f-81cf-8d5ed91cd5e6.html

    “This is not about us trying to make it difficult for voters,” Browning said. “We’re trying to ensure that their votes count.”

    Browning said Ashcroft “was not involved” in negotiations over the legislation that ultimately passed.

    Oh, bullshit, this is exactly about making it difficult for voters (in the cities where the black and brown people live) to vote. I think they felt pressured to do this, so they decided to put a poison pill provision in it to allay fears of outstate Republicans that too many of the Democrats in the cities would be able to vote easily. They don’t want easy mail-in voting because it avoids all of their voter suppression efforts.

  150. 150.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 2:05 pm

    @Soprano2:

    Oh, bullshit, this is exactly about making it difficult for voters (in the cities where the black and brown people live) to vote.

    That’s not always going to be so, though. If they locate drop boxes only at county bds of elections in urban areas in Ohio, they will be inconveniencing suburban voters. In my county they’re inconveniencing rural voters- the main bd of elections for me is right across the street from my office and I live in the city.
    This game they’re playing is really complex. It has to be a truly massive conspiracy with thousands of people working in tandem for it to definitely go in their favor. They’re horribly incompetent running the systems that exist. They’ll probably fail at inventing a new system to suppress.
    Our voters need to 1. check their registrations 2. vote 3. return the ballot using the most secure process available to them. If we do all that we’ll be fine.

  151. 151.

    Kay

    August 24, 2020 at 2:12 pm

    @Immanentize:

    I’m fine with either “corrupt and incompetent” or “corrupt and malicious” but it was one of those two because this issue didn’t arise in Congress. It arose because people weren’t getting their mail. It came UP to Congress from complaints.

    He has to explain why they aren’t getting their mail. They were, and then sometime in May or June they were not. We had live chicks delivered for decades and decades and decades and then we had dead chicks delivered. As a “logistics” person this is the whole deal. They have to be alive.

    He’s delivering mail, not trucks. If the truck leaves on time but it doesn’t have the mail on it, it’s not a success. Must be mail + truck :)

  152. 152.

    Yutsano

    August 24, 2020 at 2:24 pm

    @Kay: He keeps going back to he’s only been around for 70 days and he’s really only made one change (except now he’s saying changes) but he says he’s responsible in general but nothing specific! He’s terrible at this.

    Now some Republican is just ranting and hasn’t even asked a question yet.

  153. 153.

    Steeplejack

    August 24, 2020 at 3:20 pm

    @Baud:

    DougJ’s New York Times Pitchbot account is indeed a “worthy follow.”

  154. 154.

    Matt McIrvin

    August 24, 2020 at 6:53 pm

    @TS (the original): Biden has the youth vote, but how big is the youth vote?

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