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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / They got the guns, well, but we got the numbers

They got the guns, well, but we got the numbers

by DougJ|  September 30, 20208:16 pm| 138 Comments

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We go some really good numbers in South Carolina, Kansas, and Iowas recently. Yes, Lindsey might really go down. The DSCC is sinking money into the race, so they think so.

Barbara Bollier, Kansas Senate

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Theresa Greenfield, Iowa Senate

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Jaime Harrison, South Carolina Senate

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  1. 1.

    Mike in NC

    September 30, 2020 at 8:20 pm

    Before he became the biggest polyp in Trump’s colon, Lindsey Graham speculated that he’d kill the GOP. Hope he turns out to be correct about that come November 3rd.

  2. 2.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    Donated to Jaime. Always makes me smile. Donated to Barbara and Theresa with yesterday’s post.

    Will have to do some postcards to South Carolina. It can be hard to reach the rural voters there.

  3. 3.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 8:23 pm

    Excellent new testimonial for Republicans Voting Against Trump by a Catholic Nonna:

    Nancy, or "Noni" as everyone calls her, has voted Republican her entire life. But after last night’s debate, she is ready to vote for Biden. "The only thing that frightens me is a snake. Unfortunately we know … Donald Trump is a snake. And he frightens me to death." pic.twitter.com/vUU5BwwToX— Republican Voters Against Trump (@RVAT2020) September 30, 2020

    “Our country is on the brink.”

  4. 4.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 8:25 pm

    I want to thank whoever recommended electoral-vote.com, and WaterGirl for putting it in the sidebar.

    Today’s report is funny, in that reality has reproduced the “Hearty Fall Soups Channel” joke that was posted last week. In their collection of debate reactions, they have:

    • Politico: An Epic Moment of National Shame
    • Washington Post: Trump Incessantly Interrupts and Insults
    • New York Times: Trump Tramples Decorum
    • The Week: So bad that circus workers say it’s offensive to call it a circus
    • Bloomberg: Trump Embarrassed His Country and Himself
    • Fox News: Trump clearly defeats Biden
  5. 5.

    Chief Oshkosh

    September 30, 2020 at 8:28 pm

    Yes, Lindsey might really go down.

    I see what you did there.

  6. 6.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 8:29 pm

    Jaime Harrison is very very good, from the ads and his talks that I’ve seen. He really knows how to go after Graham on his contemptible SCOTUS flip flop. Also very good in pointing out all the ways Graham has abandoned South Carolina (edit: which has been very thoroughly and callously, far beyond what I imagined). Very good at discussing health care and the environment in ways that will get maximum possible number of people in that state listening carefully.

    If I can, I might watch his debate with Graham. Hope Harrison makes it, he might be a big ******* deal in the Senate.

  7. 7.

    RSA

    September 30, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    @Ken: Wow. I had to check out the last.

    To any reasonable person watching, it was clear that President Trump came prepared and resoundingly defeated former Vice President Joe Biden at Tuesday night’s first presidential debate in Cleveland. You have to bring you’re “A” game to go toe-to-toe with the champ and unsurprisingly, Democratic presidential nominee Biden couldn’t compete.

    I had to laugh. The “Any reasonable person” opening is a little desperate (I hope, at least), and then there’s the illiterate sentence that follows. Nice job, Fox News.

  8. 8.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 8:32 pm

    An evening dose of schadenfreude:

    A huge misstep’: Trump allies see a lost opportunity in first debate   (Politico)

    For the next debate, some Trump supporters want the president’s demeanor to undergo a wholesale makeover.

    Indeed, the leading complaint from some of Trump’s top allies following the opening debate was not the perceived unfairness of moderator Chris Wallace — though they took repeated issues with the Fox News anchor’s performance — or Biden’s evasive answer to a question related to the Supreme Court, but the president’s own demeanor. Overcome with scorn for Biden, Trump jabbed and jeered his way through the night without ever giving his opponent a chance to self-implode. The strategy confounded supporters who had giddily approached the first debate thinking it would be a prime opportunity for voters to see the 77-year-old Democratic presidential nominee stumble through answers with rambling responses and cringe-worthy gaffes.

    Between now and Oct. 15, when Trump and Biden are scheduled to face off for the second time in Miami, some Trump supporters said they want the president’s demeanor to undergo a wholesale makeover. Instead of constant interference, they want brief interruptions to introduce topics left untouched by the moderator or to pose open-ended questions to Biden. Rather than juvenile insults, they want the witty one-liners that defined Trump’s performances in the 2016 GOP primary debates.

    Barring a course-correction in the second debate, they said the president could permanently jeopardize his campaign’s effort to win over undecided voters and reverse his eroding support with women.

    “He needs to show a little more of his charm and humor, less anger,” said Seth Weathers, former director of Trump’s Georgia campaign and co-founder of a conservative apparel business.

  9. 9.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 8:34 pm

    @jl:   It would be incredible for South Carolina to have two African American US Senators.  Please please please.

  10. 10.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @dmsilev: For the next debate, some Trump supporters want the president’s demeanor to undergo a wholesale makeover.

    Because with 1400+ days passed and 30-odd left to go, that’s going to happen.  He is what he is.

    a prime opportunity for voters to see the 77-year-old Democratic presidential nominee stumble through answers with rambling responses and cringe-worthy gaffes.

    It was. But they got Trump’s age and political party wrong.

  11. 11.

    frosty

    September 30, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    Damn! I have to balance my checkbook and then I’m in big time. My choices?

    Eugene Pasquale, the only congress candidate near me who’s close to flipping a seat and eliminating odious Scott Perry

    George Scott, who might get a PA Senate seat.

    AK, MT, KS, IA senate. I’m liking the semi-long shots who could use the cash.

    ETA: and SC. Wouldn’t that be sweet????

  12. 12.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 8:36 pm

    @dmsilev:

    [Trump] supporters who had giddily approached the first debate thinking it would be a prime opportunity for voters to see the 77-year-old Democratic presidential nominee stumble through answers with rambling responses and cringe-worthy gaffes.

    In other words, the delusional and easily led.  Sheeple!

  13. 13.

    PsiFighter37

    September 30, 2020 at 8:37 pm

    Harrison has a real shot, but it’s going to be a nailbiter – haven’t seen anything outside of his internal showing him up. Greenfield has the best shot out of those 3. Bollier is behind based on polling; I think we are going to come up a little short there…feel like that’s going to be a high-single digit loss, but I would love to be wrong.

  14. 14.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 8:38 pm

    @dmsilev: I’ve been dipping my toe into clips on joshtpm blog. From what I’ve seen, Biden was very sharp and composed. Marshall makes the point that Trump’s interruptions cut short Biden’s very effective attacks.

    I think Biden’s early and sometimes faltering performances were just nervous yips (is that what they call it in golf?), maybe knowing this would be his last chance at the prize, and facing some formidable opponents. Maybe if Trump and his flunkies were not so arrogant, that possibility would have occurred to them too. Now, Biden seems fired up and ready to go, with the means to do some damage.

  15. 15.

    rikyrah

    September 30, 2020 at 8:42 pm

    Latest poll in SC has Harrison at 36% with White people ?????????

     

    If that stands..

    Sweet Baby Black Jesus…

    We can have a new Senator from South Carolina ??

  16. 16.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    MJ Hegar's campaign announces — before Q3 is even over — that she has topped $13.5 million raisedAnd this ? stat: "200,000 online donations in 72 hours following the passing of Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg"— Shane Goldmacher (@ShaneGoldmacher) September 30, 2020

  17. 17.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 30, 2020 at 8:43 pm

    @Mary G:

    The only thing that frightens me is a snake.

    All a snake needs is a good stomping. Fear not, Sister, this pagan is wi’ ye, and these shitkickers are laced tight.

  18. 18.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 8:44 pm

    @Elizabelle: They’re making the mistake of believing their own bullshit.

  19. 19.

    PsiFighter37

    September 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    @Mary G: Too little too late IMO. Wish more money / attention had gone in this race earlier. The biggest regret of most people is going to be the money spent on Amy McGrath – talk about someone completely failing to meet expectations.

  20. 20.

    H.E.Wolf

    September 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    @Ken:

    I want to thank whoever recommended electoral-vote.com, and WaterGirl for putting it in the sidebar.

    I join you in your thanks to WaterGirl, who researched it and added it to the sidebar.

    [ETA: Got rid of 1st half of my sentence. Not needed.]

  21. 21.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 8:45 pm

    Adam alert!
    Nov. 3 is probably in the bag.
    Nov. 4 the real war starts:

    Yesterday as Trump refused to condemn far-right violence, the FBI quietly issued a warning about the threat of far-right extremists, per intel report leaked to me.It identifies the period between presidential election and inauguration as a “flashpoint”https://t.co/A1AdYn9tED pic.twitter.com/IzLYTmBnXf— Ken Klippenstein (@kenklippenstein) October 1, 2020

  22. 22.

    Anoniminous

    September 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    The first debate has the highest number of viewers.  So Trump has had his best shot to influence the maximum number of people and he blew it.

  23. 23.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    @dmsilev:   And propagating it.  So tired of these asshats.

  24. 24.

    SiubhanDuinne

    September 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    @Elizabelle:

    Jaime Harrison was a guest this evening on Joy Reid’s show. I was beyond impressed — he’s really smart and personable. I don’t think Joy’s show repeats in MSNBC’s overnight block, but perhaps you can find it on YouTube.

    I’ve been sending Jaime money in small, irregular increments, but I think I’ll step it up a little in these last few weeks.

  25. 25.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 8:46 pm

    @Elizabelle: I watched a clip of Harrison going after Graham on SCOTUS. Paraphrasing: he never had time to work on the GOP health plan that will never happen, he never had time to to work on more covid aid, he never had time to help SC get its fair share of small business and unemployment relief. But now he has all the time in the world to shove through a Supreme Court justice, who he said he was going ram through without knowing who it was so he could fix the election.

    Man, he was good.

  26. 26.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    @rikyrah:  Fingers crossed. Besides Trump, there are few GOPpers I would take greater pleasure in watching their defeat than Graham. Mitch McConnell as well, but sadly that seems to be moving into the ‘very unlikely’ category.

  27. 27.

    Martin

    September 30, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    Earthquake swarm occurring now near Salton Sea. Not that unusual, but 100 minor quakes in the last few hours.

  28. 28.

    Cameron

    September 30, 2020 at 8:47 pm

    @frosty: It’s been a few years since I lived in PA, but I really like Gene Pasquale.  I hope he goes a long, long way in PA politics.

  29. 29.

    Baud

    September 30, 2020 at 8:48 pm

    Sherrod Brown was on Chris Hayes sounding pretty confident about a landslide.

  30. 30.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 8:48 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne: I’ve been sending him my piddly little $5 a month since last year, and I have to say his campaign emails are almost as good as Liz Warren’s or Chris Murphy’s.

  31. 31.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 30, 2020 at 8:50 pm

    @SubaruDianne: Right there with you. He’s been a regular stop on those late-night ActBlue shopping trips to DougJ’s Fabulous Thermometer Emporium, and last night was no exception.

  32. 32.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 8:51 pm

    @Martin: Usually, we Californians hope that what happens in the Salton Sea, stays in the Salton Sea. At least for the last 40 or 50 years since it turned into a cesspit.

  33. 33.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    Rats/ships:

    NEWS: Brad Parscale tells POLITICO he is stepping away from the Trump reelection effort and seeking help for what he called “overwhelming stress” on him and his familyw/@fineout https://t.co/eq8rh1KFDJ— Alex Isenstadt (@politicoalex) September 30, 2020

  34. 34.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 8:52 pm

    @SiubhanDuinne:   I’ll see if I can find it.

    Jaime Harrison is very personable, very smart, and would make a marvelous senator.

    @Baud:   I think we are going to have a Blue Wave too.  But we’re all shell-shocked at the recent popular vote win/fucking EC losses, and I know no Democrats are taking anything for granted.  Witness the small donor fundraising, during a pandemic recession.

  35. 35.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 30, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    @Martin: Are you in the vicinity? That’s, uh, not a good sign. When the earth gets restless, she can get noisy.

  36. 36.

    A Ghost to Most

    September 30, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    @Mary G:

     

     

    Nov. 4 the real war starts

    That sounds familiar.

  37. 37.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 8:53 pm

    @Mary G:   Jaime’s campaign has been texting me daily.  I am  … not irritated by that.  Good they are using technology that way.

  38. 38.

    LuciaMia

    September 30, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    some Trump supporters said they want the president’s demeanor to undergo a wholesale makeover

    Do you mean there are people out there that still think Trump is capable of change?

  39. 39.

    Geminid

    September 30, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    @Martin: Curious: How does it look for Katie Porter’s reelection? Some people here are worried.

  40. 40.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 30, 2020 at 8:54 pm

    @Mary G: Thieves/getaways?

  41. 41.

    PPCLI

    September 30, 2020 at 8:55 pm

    @dmsilev: Trump’s worshippers are clinging desperately to the line that Trump was just too aggressive, and not only alienated people but “saved Biden from self-immolating”.

    But a) Biden looked pretty good, especially given that he spent most of the debate with Trump howling at him like a rabid beast.

    b) Trump wasn’t just angry and aggressive and obstreperous, but he was deranged, with a lunatic intensity of the malignant narcissist who can no longer maintain his carefully constructed illusions. People saw him for who he is, and they were not only disgusted but frightened.

    c) It wasn’t just the anger/aggression that was a disaster for Trump. He was incoherent. Remember the bizarre story about the European “forest cities” whose trees burst into flame so much easier than California ones? There were interminable stretches of time where he went on and on and simply made no sense at all. He’s losing it.

    d) Trump and his people are wedded to a bubble fantasy according to which one jab or thrust will bring Biden crashing down. They really believe that by distinguishing his plan from the “Green New Deal”, Biden will “lose the left”. It reminds me of the Republicans in 2008 who were convinced that waves of angry PUMAS would scuttle Obama’s chances. They simply don’t have any idea who their opponents are, or what makes them tick. They can only deal with caricatures of their own making.

  42. 42.

    Anoniminous

    September 30, 2020 at 8:56 pm

    @Mary G:

    They have a bunch of disorganized out of shape fat people with AR-15s.

    We have the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps.

    I like our chances.

  43. 43.

    Baud

    September 30, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    @PPCLI:

    Remember the bizarre story about the European “forest cities”

    I liked Return of the Jedi.

  44. 44.

    Baud

    September 30, 2020 at 8:57 pm

    @Anoniminous: Don’t forget the Coast Guard!

  45. 45.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    @rikyrah: I take it that 36% with white people is good in SC?

  46. 46.

    HumboldtBlue

    September 30, 2020 at 8:58 pm

    Jamie Harris’s mom is upset with him because he made Lindsey Graham cry.

  47. 47.

    Baud

    September 30, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    If we could get that in Mississippi, it’d be a deep blue state.

  48. 48.

    Barbara

    September 30, 2020 at 8:59 pm

    @rikyrah: For the longest time SC had the highest proportion of people who were both born and died in the same state, as in, not a lot of in migration. That has changed a lot over the last 20 years. It takes a while for that to build into a durable political trend. We’ll see.

  49. 49.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    More schadenfreude, this time from the Post:

    Belligerent Trump debate performance stokes fears among Republicans about November:

    The aftermath of the first presidential debate between President Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden triggered a reckoning among Republicans on Wednesday about the incumbent’s incendiary remarks on white supremacy and his baseless claims of electoral fraud, with GOP officials privately expressing alarm about the fallout with key voters as the president’s allies argued that he electrified his core supporters.

    This election is drifting toward what feels like a blowout [victory for Biden], and there needs to be some type of event that changes that. The debate was a chance to change the direction, and while it might be too early to be seen, there is no real reason to believe it was a game-changer,” said Brendan Buck, a former top adviser to the past two Republican House speakers, Paul D. Ryan of Wisconsin and John A. Boehner of Ohio.
    Former Arizona senator Jeff Flake (R), a Trump critic who stays in touch with former colleagues, said the private alarm in Senate GOP circles “is palpable.”
    “People are voting already, so they know it’s going to be tough to put forward a new narrative,” Flake said. “They’re more than a little worried because it feels like even if you go in a different direction, it’d be too little, too late. That’s devastating.”

    One veteran Republican Senate strategist, who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they are working on a Senate campaign, said, “We’re all kind of prepared to be responsible for our own performances and our own words. You’re not going to see anybody say it was a bad performance, but they’ll consider it like Trump’s really crazy tweets. They’ll say, ‘That’s not my kind of campaign, didn’t really see it.’ ”
    The strategist added that several campaigns are already deliberating on how to address Proud Boys questions at upcoming Senate debates and are trying to figure out how to deflect the issue and shift to more favorable topics.

    Yeah, good luck with that.

    Edit: bonus Susan Collins Is Concerned:

    “There was fault on both sides,” Sen. Susan Collins (R-Maine), who is facing a tough reelection contest, told reporters on Wednesday. “The interrupting on both sides, the name-calling was very unbecoming for a presidential debate.”

  50. 50.

    LuciaMia

    September 30, 2020 at 9:00 pm

    @Baud: And Space Force!

  51. 51.

    Elizabelle

    September 30, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @HumboldtBlue:   Love that.  Short and to the point and funnnnny.

  52. 52.

    BruceFromOhio

    September 30, 2020 at 9:02 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    We have the US Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marine Corps.

    Ummm, dipping a toe in Adam’s pool here, but those forces cannot deploy domestically. That’s by design. If the FBI ‘flashpoint’ is realized, it’ll be civilians versus civilians.

  53. 53.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:03 pm

    @Martin: Because there’s not enough going on already.

  54. 54.

    Inventor

    September 30, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @Barbara:

    For the longest time SC had the highest proportion of people who were both born and died in the same state, as in, not a lot of in migration. 

    “Too small for a country, too large for an insane asylum.”

  55. 55.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:05 pm

    @dmsilev: Let’s see how well Trump can control himself when he undergoes what he considers the humiliation of have having to grovel in front of ‘those disgusting people’ (aka voters) at the town hall.

    And all Biden has to do is say ‘Trump wasn’t smart in how he handled that’, and Trump is roiling inside.

  56. 56.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @Geminid: I would be interested to know that, also.  I love Katie Porter, and I would miss her voice, particularly in the hearings.

  57. 57.

    Barbara

    September 30, 2020 at 9:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: I did some deep dive analysis of voting in 2012, and Obama’s high water mark for white support in the South outside of Virginia was 36%, in NC. It might have reached the high 20s in SC. And people have the temerity to sneer at lopsided pro-D voting by African Americans as somehow suspect.

  58. 58.

    jonas

    September 30, 2020 at 9:07 pm

    @Ken: A lot of right wing outlets (with the exception of Drudge, who abandoned the SS Trumptanic a while ago) are just pushing out bizarro-world tweets and posts touting Trump’s brilliant debate victory and claiming that Biden basically just stood there crying and wetting himself, all in the hopes that supporters just hit the clickbait and don’t actually see clips of the debate or any other news about what really happened.

  59. 59.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    @Baud: Wow.  Good thing we got past all the racial issues when we elected Barack Obama.

  60. 60.

    Barbara

    September 30, 2020 at 9:08 pm

    @dmsilev: She has gone from being concerned to being delusional.

  61. 61.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @jl:  Good location for pics down there.

  62. 62.

    Barbara

    September 30, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Inventor: I had a close friend in college from SC and he had all kinds of fun facts like that. I also spent the better part of a summer on assignment in SC. It was interesting.

  63. 63.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Barbara:

    Clarke and Dawe – Xmas Gift Suggestions

    https://youtu.be/nGrEJ-CafI8?t=103

  64. 64.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:12 pm

    @Barbara: Did not know that.  thanks!

  65. 65.

    Baud

    September 30, 2020 at 9:13 pm

    A special bonus episode of #YouAndMeBoth lands in your podcast feeds tomorrow featuring the one and only @kamalaharris. https://t.co/X3Ll7so0Bd— Hillary Clinton (@HillaryClinton) September 30, 2020

  66. 66.

    Miss Bianca

    September 30, 2020 at 9:14 pm

    @dmsilev: 

    The lack of self-awareness it would take to be one of these “Trump allies” praying for a personality transplant is simultaneously hilarious and painful to contemplate. It’s like watching John Cleese in Fawlty Towers – it’s too funny not to laugh, but so squirm-inducing it’s almost not funny,

  67. 67.

    Anoniminous

    September 30, 2020 at 9:15 pm

    @BruceFromOhio:

    The Posse Comitatus Act is trumped by the Enforcement Acts when a state does not suppress violence or other actions violating people’s Constitutional Rights.

    That’s how Eisenhower was able to send troops to Arkansas in 1954.

  68. 68.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:17 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: “Good location for pics down there.”

    If you want the ambiance of a particularly gruesome alien planet.

    Though, lots of birds during migration, I give you that.

  69. 69.

    John S.

    September 30, 2020 at 9:18 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: Trump’s supporters, like their hero, are bullies and cowards. They only act tough. When they are challenged directly, they run away crying.

  70. 70.

    L85NJGT

    September 30, 2020 at 9:19 pm

    A last note on the debate – at the end Joe hugged Jill then strode over to gadfly with Wallace. Trump took a couple of shuffle steps to the side of the podium and never released his grip on it. There won’t be a repeat of any of that up in yer grillz B.S.

  71. 71.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @Miss Bianca: I know, right? All Trump needs to do in the next two weeks is completely change his personality, double his intellectual and emotional IQs, and cram in two or three decades worth of policy study. Should be fine, no problem, it’ll be done by Tuesday.

  72. 72.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 9:25 pm

    @jl: Bombay Beach.

  73. 73.

    Barbara

    September 30, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @L85NJGT: The Trumps looked rigid at the end. He seems to have developed real mobility issues. My mother became all but immobilized when she needed a hip replacement, but it could be so many things.

  74. 74.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @dmsilev: This part of that article made me see red:

    Ed Rendell, the former Pennsylvania governor and a Biden ally, said he wished Biden had a crisper answer on law-and-order questions, and would put an emphasis on saying that those engaged in looting and rioting at protests should be prosecuted. He also wished Biden would have reiterated his past opposition to expanding the Supreme Court.

    Somebody in the Democratic Party needs to make Ed STFU forever and ever.

  75. 75.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 9:26 pm

    @dmsilev: They’ll put Jared on it.

  76. 76.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:27 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: Thanks. I see you went for absurd alien planet on that trip. Nice pix.

  77. 77.

    TS (the original)

    September 30, 2020 at 9:29 pm

    @H.E.Wolf:

    And I’ve already thanked you for reminding me how good it is. But worth another mention. Was my goto place in 2008. Still in my blog list (despite not really a blog).

  78. 78.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @jl: Thanks, there was Slab City as well.

  79. 79.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    my eternal thanks to one Donald J trumpov for showing his true self all along and most especially these past 6-7 months.

    His complete abdication of any responsibility to the American people during the pandemic finally provided the breakthrough needed despite a sugar-high economy, the World’s Laziest Media, and the hard floor provided by the FoxBubble.

    So we’re no longer a 50-50 nation.  How ’bout that, America?  Let’s see if we can get to 73-27!   =)

  80. 80.

    Miss Bianca

    September 30, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    @dmsilev: Because, hey – all he has to do is SAY it’s done, and BOOM! It’s DONE!

  81. 81.

    sanjeevs

    September 30, 2020 at 9:30 pm

    U.S. Attorney Billy Williams said Wednesday Portland police will retain their status as federal deputies, despite Mayor Ted Wheeler’s request to revoke that status.
    In a statement, Williams said the action was needed because city leaders haven’t done enough to quell violence at protests.
    “The federal deputation supports front line law enforcement officers and their families in a way that they have not seen from City Hall,” Williams said. “Portlanders, and Oregonians in general are sick of the boarded-up and dangerous conditions prevalent in downtown Portland due to a lack of leadership.”
    The current dispute is the aftermath of a police response that brought federal, state and local law enforcement together last weekend. Oregon Gov. Kate Brown declared a state of emergency ahead of a Sept. 26 far-right rally in Portland, and placed law enforcement under a unified command consisting of the Oregon State Police and Multnomah County Sheriff’s Office. As part of that preparation, the U.S. Marshals Service federally deputized 22 sheriff’s deputies and 56 members of the Portland Police Bureau’s Rapid Response Team.
    As OPB first reported Tuesday, the federal deputy designation did not end with the far-right rally, however. It extends through the end of the year, a decision made by the U.S. Marshals according to Oregon State Police Capt. Timothy Fox.

     

    https://www.opb.org/article/2020/09/30/federal-government-refuses-to-rescind-local-law-enforcement-deputations/

  82. 82.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    @Mary G: Rendell is full of BS. Way to harsh. People don’t want to hear that under Biden there will be incessant stuff about protester prosecutions in the news. That is Trump’s turf.

    My one criticism of Biden is that he still has excessively defensive centrist Democratic reflexes. One clip I saw, Trump said some BS about Biden wants to defund the police and Biden blurts out he wants more funding for the police. I don’t see how that has much to with with Biden’s law enforcement reform proposals, which are fine on their own.

    But Biden will get better, if they can keep BS artistis like Rendell away from him.

  83. 83.

    mali muso

    September 30, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    Got a text from a volunteer with the Espy campaign asking if I would be up for donating $10 before the end of quarter deadline.  I kind of appreciated both the tone of the message and the low-ball figure, so I texted back that I was definitely in and good luck to them on the campaign.  Got a nice little note back from the volunteer as well.

    Now watching the ActBlue ticker again as my nightly therapy. lol.  It seems to be spinning pretty quickly tonight.

  84. 84.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:31 pm

    @Mary G:Somebody in the Democratic Party needs to make Ed STFU forever and ever.

    Ed is welcome to a GOP Platinum Level Membership for free at this point – why not, he’s earned it?

    Actually never mind, no one cares what Ed Rendell thinks.

  85. 85.

    TS (the original)

    September 30, 2020 at 9:32 pm

    @Anoniminous:

    The first debate has the highest number of viewers.

    And given the s.s. this one was, the remaining debates will have the fewest watchers ever.

  86. 86.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:34 pm

    @Jeffro: “Actually never mind, no one cares what Ed Rendell thinks.”

    No one cares what X thinks. I don’t understand why that type of person shows up so often on the corporate news and public affairs talky shows.

  87. 87.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @dmsilev:“[trumpov] needs to show a little more of his charm and humor, less anger,” said Seth Weathers

    Yes, yes Seth Weathers…great analysis there.  Also, Santa should drop down the chimney every month.

    C’mon, Politico, humor me and tell me the follow up question was either a) “What evidence do you have, Seth Weathers, that this president* has ever been able to pull back on his own impulsivity, even to benefit himself?” or b) “Could you please let us know a little more about the ‘charm and humor’ thing, Seth Weathers, when you have a moment?”

    Give me an effin’ break.

  88. 88.

    L85NJGT

    September 30, 2020 at 9:35 pm

    @Barbara:

    That’s interesting – IIRC golfers tend to end up with hip replacements.

  89. 89.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:38 pm

    @Baud: if Biden wins OH it means that he’s reclaimed MI/WI/PA and has probably flipped several other ‘red’ states as well.  (I know you know this but still – just amazing)

    350+ EVs.  Try and contest a dozen or more states’ election results at once while you continue to melt down further, daily, Donnie.

  90. 90.

    Miss Bianca

    September 30, 2020 at 9:40 pm

    @Jeffro: Someone out there still thinks Trump has some underground reservoir of “charm” or “humor”? That’s so self-delusory it’s almost poignant.

  91. 91.

    Evap

    September 30, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    I linked to electoral-vote.com in a post recently, although I don’t think I was the first one to do so.  I’ve been reading them since 2004, the same year I discovered BJ.

  92. 92.

    Mike in NC

    September 30, 2020 at 9:42 pm

    Looks like Trump may be spending this coming weekend trying to wash off the loser stink of embracing the Proud Boys on national TV.

  93. 93.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 9:43 pm

    Womp womp:

    The Vatican has denied US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo an audience with Pope Francis.Thanks @Pontifex pic.twitter.com/jPnw6LaQ3P— BaldwinAfrica (@BaldwinAfrica) October 1, 2020

  94. 94.

    Mike in NC

    September 30, 2020 at 9:44 pm

    @Anoniminous:  Don’t forget the US Space Force, which I hope ceases to exist come January 2021.

  95. 95.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @dmsilev:  It’s a shame that’s too long for a rotating tag.

  96. 96.

    Raoul Paste

    September 30, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    Gonna win, yeah we’re taking over…
    C’mon!

  97. 97.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @PPCLI:Trump and his people are wedded to a bubble fantasy according to which one jab or thrust will bring Biden crashing down. …They simply don’t have any idea who their opponents are, or what makes them tick. They can only deal with caricatures of their own making.

    Yup, completely spot-on.  I can’t decide if it’s because their party is just fundamentally different than ours (as ours actually tries to deliver for its constituents and is still committed to our system of government) or because their media denies them basic information they need to make even good guesses.

    I suspect the latter has had a big hand in the former.  They have been in the FoxBubble for over 30 years now.

  98. 98.

    Mike in NC

    September 30, 2020 at 9:45 pm

    @jl:  I was stationed in San Diego in 1981 and was too dumb to go explore crazy places like the Salton Sea. I’ve since watched several documentaries about it.

  99. 99.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:46 pm

    @Mary G:   I was partway through your block quote and I was already composing my reply… which picked up on his use of “wished”.

    But then I saw that you had already written it for me!

  100. 100.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    @Mary G: Yeah, I saw that. I don’t think too many people, including in Biden’s team, care much about Rendell and his opinions. Remember all of the gloom and doom he was spreading about the VP selection process? That sure aged well.

  101. 101.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:47 pm

    @Inventor: But great food!  (Also hurricanes and the occasional earthquake.)  But the food!  ;)

  102. 102.

    JanieM

    September 30, 2020 at 9:48 pm

    @dmsilev: I’d say Collins has become a caricature of herself, but that happened a while ago.

  103. 103.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: With a small enough font size, it’d fit.

  104. 104.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:49 pm

    @dmsilev:All Trump needs to do in the next two weeks is completely change his personality, double his intellectual and emotional IQs, and cram in two or three decades worth of policy study. Should be fine, no problem, it’ll be done by Tuesday.

    “I don’t need to prep for the debates, I take questions from you people” – DJT to the press, a day or two ago.

    Oh, okay there sir…

  105. 105.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    @dmsilev: Maybe one little dot for each letter, with spaces between the “words”.

  106. 106.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 9:50 pm

    @Mike in NC: There are still days when it is interesting and intriguing, even spectacular. But when the water’s down and wind is up, there was a time when it could be very nasty and unhealthy to be near the place. Lots of agricultural wastewater in the Imperial Valley drained into it. I don’t know whether they got that fixed yet.

    It’s a man made lake by mistake. In the early 1900s an irrigation canal bust open and made it. Was nice for a while, stocked with fish, big tourist attraction, Hemingway and Bogart types at resorts.

    Edit: Problem is, how do you maintain what is essentially a huge accidental sump over the long term?

  107. 107.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    Huh. My CA sample ballot arrived today, and looking through it, apparently Kanye West is on the ballot…

    …as the vice presidential candidate for the American Independent Party. Which, if you’re not familiar with them, are a bunch of people who think the GOP isn’t quite far right enough.

  108. 108.

    Jeffro

    September 30, 2020 at 9:51 pm

    @jl:I don’t understand why that type of person shows up so often on the corporate news and public affairs talky shows.

    That’s a good point (especially after seeing Rick Santorum and Van Jones on last night’s CNN coverage).  I mean, it’s probably #213 on the to-do list starting this January, but still: beat on the media to provide some fresh perspectives and voices on their shows.

    Maybe an age limit, maybe a set number of lifetime appearances, I dunno…

  109. 109.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    @WaterGirl: Microdots for the modern era!

  110. 110.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 9:52 pm

    @WaterGirl: It’s a shame that’s too long for a rotating tag.

    Make it an immensely long acronym (“ATNTDI…”), thus angering both the people who hate undefined acronyms and the mobile users whose UX is messed up by long words.

    Or go with BillinGlendaleCA‘s pithy summary, “They’ll put Jared on it.”

  111. 111.

    Martin

    September 30, 2020 at 9:53 pm

    @Geminid: She should be fine. She’s high profile, big name recognition, lots of money. Clinton won by 5 in this district. Expect Biden will win by more – good coattails.

    Focus on CA-50. That’ll be close.

  112. 112.

    Martin

    September 30, 2020 at 9:54 pm

    @BruceFromOhio: No, but that’s right on the San Andreas, so depending on how cranky the fault is I’m close enough.

  113. 113.

    Benw

    September 30, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    OT: the Heat are hanging right there with the Lakers.

    General question: BJ used to put up threads for most important/wide interest games, but not anymore; would there be interest in sports focussed threads?

  114. 114.

    dmsilev

    September 30, 2020 at 9:55 pm

    Annals of Overcompensating:

    WATCH: “Macho Man” by the Village People plays as Air Force One rolls up to President Trump’s rally in Duluth, MN pic.twitter.com/MQmHlgvm89
    — The Hill (@thehill) October 1, 2020

  115. 115.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    @jl: Problem is, how do you maintain what is essentially a huge accidental sump over the long term?

    Check with Rupert Murdoch, he’s got experience.

    Seriously, you don’t.  The geology of the Salton goes in cycles about 1000 years long, 500 as a saline marsh lake and 500 as a salt desert.  I should say went in cycles, since it depended which way the Colorado turned, and that doesn’t happen any more.  It doesn’t even reach the ocean most years.

  116. 116.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 9:56 pm

    @dmsilev: It’s nice that Donald is acknowledging Eric’s coming-out.

  117. 117.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @jl: It’s current incarnation is an accident, but there has been a lake there before.  In addition to the lovely runoff from the Imperial County agriculture, there’s also industrial runoff from Mexico via the New River.

  118. 118.

    TS (the original)

    September 30, 2020 at 9:57 pm

    @jl:

    Clarke and Dawe

    They were wonderful. Sadly John Clarke died about 3 years ago. We miss those words of wisdom that we heard each Thursday evening.

  119. 119.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 9:58 pm

    @dmsilev: The American Independent Party is George Wallace’s old party.

  120. 120.

    Mary G

    September 30, 2020 at 9:59 pm

    @dmsilev: He abets and encourages the media’s both sides obsession. Robert Costa is a right wing specialist, and a good reporter, so he calls Ed quote-shopping so that after talking to umpty million Republicans, he can characterize all Democrats as having Ed’s views to keep his readers’ attention and give them hope that Biden can be beat.

  121. 121.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    September 30, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @Martin: Dr. Lucy Jones said it’s 30km from the San Andreas, so there’s not too great a worry.

  122. 122.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 30, 2020 at 10:00 pm

    @frosty:

    Flipping the PA-House is within reach. The seats you mentioned overlap 3 excellent PA-House opportunities

    districts and D candidates:

    105 Brittney Rodas

    104 Patty Smith

    106 Lindsay Drew

    Small contributions might matter more for down-ballot candidates. who should be able to get out the vote for the top of the ticket.

    Synergy up and down the ballot

    Stay frosty!

  123. 123.

    dnfree

    September 30, 2020 at 10:03 pm

    Later than I meant to, but I just ran through and hit a few of the thermometers.  I picked some that were very close to going over a round number, just for fun, because I really don’t know how to prioritize all these races but I’m glad Balloon-Juice is focusing on them.  Thanks!

  124. 124.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 10:05 pm

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: I think the last natural inflow of water was 500 or 1,000 years ago, something like that. So, believe it or not, before my time. If you got some pix of one of the old lakes, please post them

  125. 125.

    Mike in NC

    September 30, 2020 at 10:08 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Now I desperately need to find out where I can stream “Fawlty Towers”.

  126. 126.

    stacib

    September 30, 2020 at 10:11 pm

    @rikyrah: My first real belief that Obama could win was getting 25% of the white, male vote in SC in the 2008 primary.  I told my mother that night, “he can win this”.

  127. 127.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 10:16 pm

    @Mike in NC: It streams on UKTV.  One episode, “The Germans,” was briefly pulled due to racial slurs but has been put back.

  128. 128.

    jl

    September 30, 2020 at 10:17 pm

    @TS (the original): I know some Australians complained that they were too lefty for ABC. But the most vicious bludgeonings I’ve seen were of Rudd and Keating.

    Clarke and Dawe: Kevin Rudd and IR

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pZ5KDG54cU

  129. 129.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 10:25 pm

    @Ken: hahaha

    Angering the people who hate undefined acronyms (me) and the person who has to fix it (me) when someone doesn’t realize and accidentally screws up the formatting.

    Perhaps that wouldn’t be in my best interests.  :-)

    edit: full disclosure, I do not get upset when people screw up the formatting unintentionally.

  130. 130.

    planetjanet

    September 30, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    I sent a little bit to Jaime Harrison.  Fingers crossed.

  131. 131.

    RaflW

    September 30, 2020 at 10:27 pm

    @PsiFighter37: I hung out (outdoors) with one of my three Johnson County KS cousins a few days ago. She’s a ‘registered independent’ and her husband grew up on a wheat farm in western KS (he’s a mostly retired insurance guy, did well for himself in that line of work). He’s struck me as somewhat old-school Republican, and also kind and careful. Very accepting of me being gay and partnered. Their adult kids are clearly liberal.

    Anyway, I asked my cuz about Bollier and she said good things about her. She is well known, and her 2018 party flip seems to have brought her fans with her (at least some). My cousin’s husband, who is affable but taciturn, when I mentioned that I was sort of bummed that she wasn’t up against Kobach, he said “That guy is an idiot and an asshole. Can’t risk the chance he’d win.” Well there ya have it.

    I’ve chipped in again for B.B.

  132. 132.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 10:30 pm

    @dnfree: I have been known to donate odd amounts to take something to a round number.  One could also donated smallish odd amounts so that people like me are encouraged to donate to turn it into a round number.

  133. 133.

    RaflW

    September 30, 2020 at 10:33 pm

    @PsiFighter37: Unfortunately McGrath has met my expectations. It’s why I backed Booker in the primary, and haven’t looked back since.

  134. 134.

    Ken

    September 30, 2020 at 10:41 pm

    @WaterGirl: full disclosure, I do not get upset when people screw up the formatting unintentionally.

    Oh good, I’ve been getting tired of using quotes and spaces every time I need to mention “pneu mono ultra micro scopic silico volcano coni osis” in one of the BJ political discussions.

  135. 135.

    WaterGirl

    September 30, 2020 at 10:50 pm

    @Ken:  Just ’cause you don’t have to worry about me doesn’t mean you don’t have to deal with Steep and Imm.  :-)  It is most annoying for the people on mobile.

    I know you’re just teasing though.

  136. 136.

    Scuffletuffle

    September 30, 2020 at 11:33 pm

    @dmsilev: “Charm”…WTF is this dude talking about?

  137. 137.

    rikyrah

    October 1, 2020 at 9:37 am

    @WaterGirl:

     

    Unreal, to me.

  138. 138.

    rikyrah

    October 1, 2020 at 9:38 am

    @Baud:

    IF we could get 25% White vote in Mississippi, it would be a blue state.

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