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  1. 1.

    NotMax

    Yesterday the world hit 17 countries reporting cumulative cases of 500k or more. Today, 18.

    U.S. ~10,109k
    India ~8539k
    Brazil ~5664k
    France ~1811k
    Russia ~1796k
    Spain ~1329k*
    Argentina ~1242k
    U.K. ~1194k
    Colombia ~1144k
    Mexico ~968k
    Italy ~935k
    Peru ~922k
    South Africa ~737k
    Iran ~682k
    Germany ~675k
    Poland ~546k
    Chile ~522k
    Belgium ~501k
    .

    Iraq poised to become number 19 by this time tomorrow.

    *(Spain has apparently not updated numbers for a couple of days so expect a real jump there when they do.)

  2. 2.

    gkoutnik

    I know incoming administrations try to not undermine policies of the outgoing administration, but this is an unprecedented moment.

    I hate this kind of reporting – it’s dangerously timid. Who cares about an “unprecedented moment?” It’s a fucking emergency! Deaths in the millions, many more to come. It’s not a moment.

  5. 5.

    PenandKey

    An old girlfriend of mine posted just yesterday that the nursing home her father is staying at in the La Crosse, WI area has an active CV-19 outbreak, that he has tested positive and requires immediate hospitalization, and that he can’t be because all the hospitals in the area are full. She’s a nurse and has been in the thick of things since this a started, and now she’s facing the likely prospect of her own dad dying because there’s no capacity to treat him. They’re desperately trying to train the nursing home staff how to set up and run a covid ICU in the home. That’s where this area is at, so… fun.

  6. 6.

    WereBear

    @gkoutnik:

    I hate this kind of reporting – it’s dangerously timid. Who cares about an “unprecedented moment?” It’s a fucking emergency! Deaths in the millions, many more to come. It’s not a moment.

    It’s the weirdest thing about our media. They will hype the smallest thing for looks and clicks, but sensible and necessary measures will be decried because “it’s not normal.”

    Of course, it can all be explained by bias against Democratics, and I usually do. And so, dodging crazy moguls and profits, as always, we simply have to HAMMER them when they are this stupid, because we can’t appeal to their better nature.

    The right made them afraid to criticize the Right with a campaign of complaining, why can’t we try it?

    It’s one of the things Twitter was good for this year, relentlessly criticizing the usual lapdogs and enablers.

  7. 7.

    Amir Khalid

    Malaysia’s daily Covid-19 numbers. DG of Health Dr Nor Hisham Abdullah reports 972 new cases today, for a cumulative reported total of 41,181 cases.He says Malaysia is currently maintaining an R0 below 1.0, despite last week’s four-digit spikes which resulted from aggressive screening in prisons. He also reports eight new deaths for a total of 294 deaths — 0.71% of the cumulative reported total, 0.97% of resolved cases.

    Meanwhile, 1,345 more patients recovered and were discharged today, a new record, for a total of 29,759 patients recovered — 71.8% of the cumulative reported total.

    Six new clusters were identified today: Nabaha and Numbak in Sabah; Perigi and Seri Terapi in Selangor; Padang in Johore; and Harmoni in Putrajaya.

    967 new cases today are from local infection. Sabah has just 370 cases, a 29% drop from yesterday: 93 in existing clusters, 27 in Nabaha and Numbak clusters, 164 close-contact screenings, and 86 other screenings. Selangor has 137 cases: 56 in older clusters, one in Perigi cluster, 36 close-contact screenings, 2 SARI screenings, and 42 other screenings. KL has 20 cases: 13 in older clusters, one in Seri Terapi cluster, four close-contact screenings, and two other screenings. Putrajaya has five cases, all in Harmoni cluster. Penang has 34 cases: 28 in existing clusters, and six close-contact screenings. 

    Kedah has eight cases: seven in existing clusters, and one close-contact screening. Labuan has 63 cases: 18 in existing clusters, 30 close-contact screenings, and 15 other screenings. Negeri Sembilan has 260 cases: 247 in existing clusters, three close-contact screenings, and 10 other screenings. Perak has 51 cases, all in existing clusters. Sarawak has four cases: three in existing clusters, and one close-contact screening. Johore has eight cases: one in an existing cluster, four in Padang cluster, and three other screenings. Kelantan has two cases, both in existing clusters. And Melaka has five cases: four in existing clusters, and one detected in other screening.

    Terengganu, Perlis, and Pahang reported no new cases today.

    Five new cases are imported. Two arrived from the Philippines, two from Singapore, and one from Nepal.

    11,308 active and contagious cases are currently in hospital; 86 are in ICU, of whom 31 are on ventilators.

    The eight deaths reported today are a 72-year-old man with heart disease; a 51-year-old man with stroke; a 53-year-old man; a one-year-old boy with a hole in his heart, Down’s syndrome and hypothyroidism; a 66-year-old man with hypertension; a 71-year-old woman with hypertension and cataracts; a 55-year-old woman; and a 65-year-old woman with hypertension.

  8. 8.

    prostratedragon

    Chicago area getting scary in a hurry (per Johns Hopkins):

    Cook County (~52 percent Chicago)

    Week ending     Avg. daily deaths
    2020-10-04       6.57
    2020-10-11       6.29
    2020-10-18       8.14
    2020-10-25       9.14
    2020-11-01     11.3
    2020-11-08     42.6

    Avg. daily new cases
    2020-10-04     678.
    2020-10-11     877.
    2020-10-18   1342.
    2020-10-25   1668.
    2020-11-01   2502.
    2020-11-08   3651.

     

    Glad I got some non-emergency surgery out of the way this past week.

  9. 9.

    MagdaInBlack

    What I am hearing in the NW suburbs of Chicago is that bar and restaurant owners have no intention of shutting down again. They will get a lawyer and pay the fines, as it is that or go broke from being shut down.

  10. 10.

    PenAndKey

    @MagdaInBlack: If that’s the case it’s not enough to just fine them. Throw their asses in jail or yank their business license as a persistent public health threat.

  12. 12.

    MagdaInBlack

    @PenAndKey: I agree with you but I also get where they’re coming from. There is no plan for covering their lost income. They have families to feed and bills to pay just like the rest of us. I don’t have a good answer.

  13. 13.

    Amir Khalid

    @gkoutnik:

    You are right. It’s not about Biden’s people breaking precedent. When the policy of the outgoing administration is itself a gross violation of the norm — in this case, unprecedented malicious neglect, resulting in many thousands needlessly sick or dead — the incoming administration has no other choice.

  14. 14.

    Anne Laurie

    @gkoutnik: But Dana Houle’s not a reporter, he’s a professional campaign operative; his angle on what it’s possible / preferable is not going to be the same as a professional reporter’s.

  15. 15.

    Sloane Ranger

    Greetings from England in lock down. Yesterday, we had 20,572 new cases. This is almost 4500 cases less than the day before but may be artificially low due to the well known weekend processing delay issue. Currently, the number of new cases seems to have levelled out but they remain high. The new cases by nation are,

    England – 18,293 (down @3500)

    Northern Ireland – 420 (down @100)

    Scotland – 1115 (down @600)

    Wales – 744 (down @200).

    Deaths – There were 156 new deaths, down about 300 from the previous day, but again, caution is required due to these being Sunday’s figures. 127 deaths were in England, 7 in Northern Ireland, 3 in Scotland and 19 in Wales.

    Testing – 344,045 tests were processed out of a capacity of 530,112. a total of 1,986,202 tests were processed in the week ending 5th November. This is a reduction of 9.1% from the previous week. no evidence the government is doing anything to rectify this in England. Don’t know if anyone has updated information from the other home nation governments.

    Hospitalisations – 12,949 people were in hospital as of 5th November and 1185 were on ventilators. a total of 10,428 people were admitted to hospital in the week ended 28th October. This is an increase of 8.5% from the week before.

    General – The national lockdown in Wales ended today so people can meet in groups of no more than 4 and go out to pubs and restaurants. The Welsh First Minister has begged the Welsh people to be sparing in taking advantage of these changes as cases have levelled off but not reduced.

    This weekend was Remembrance Sunday with the traditional Festival of Remembrance on Saturday. Both were very surreal this year. There were less people attending the wreath laying at the Cenotaph and no crowds. Instead of the 50 or so Commonwealth High Commissioners, there were only 5 representing its geographic spread and everyone had to walk carefully laid down paths to maintain social distancing. Most strange of all was the lack of the usual march past by the thousands of veterans, just 20 or so representing the Chelsea Pensioners and service charities. Likewise, the Festival of Remembrance, held in the Royal Albert Hall, usually full to the rafters with Royal British Legion (RBL) members was held in pre-recorded chunks in an empty hall. Prince Charles kicked it off with a tribute to NHS workers. As noted by AL above, the annual RBL Poppy Appeal has taken a big hit this year due to the inability of sell poppies on the street. I went to their website and donated online, I hope others will do the same.

    Now, off to the Opticians for my bi-annual eye check. I have my mask and hand sanitiser at the ready! will check in later, when I get back.

  16. 16.

    YY_Sima Qian

    Yesterday, China reported 1 new domestic confirmed case, a dock worker handling cold chain logistics at Tianjin Municipality. I had reported the details in yesterday’s post.

    Kashgar and Kizilsu Prefectures in Xinjiang “Autonomous” Region did not report any new cases today, the 1st time since the start of the outbreak in late Oct. 1 serious case improved to moderate, 3 cases recovered and 9 asymptomatic cases were released from isolation. There are currently 59 confirmed cases (including 6 in serious condition), all in Kashgar, and 306 asymptomatic cases in Xinjiang (285 in Kashgar and 21 in Kizilsu). 

    Today, Shanghai Municipality reported a new domestic confirmed case, a logistics worker at Pudong International Airport, but not cold chain logistics. The case developed symptoms on 11/8, and went to a fever clinic (riding an electric scooter, rather than taking public transportation). 26 close contacts have been traced and quarantined, 23 have tested negative so far, 3 results pending. 181 Tier 2 close contacts have been traced, 106 already quarantined and 75 en route to quarantine. 462 environmental samples have been collected, of the 127 results obtained so far, all are negative. I was supposed to go on a business trip to Shanghai tomorrow, landing at Puding Airport. After consulting with colleagues, we decided to postpone the trip. We are not concerned about any potential outbreak or getting infected. However, depending on how the situation develops, having travel history through Pudong Airport could raise greater scrutiny and cause complications for subsequent travels, especially if health code turns yellow. As it is not an urgent trip, no sense risking it.

    Mengding township in Gengma County, in Yunnan Province, will start mass screening of all residents due to a recent imported case from Myanmar, apparently an illegal migrant who crossed the border without testing or quarantine.

    Yesterday, China reported 32 new imported confirmed cases and 9 imported asymptomatic cases and 1 imported suspect cases:

    • Shanghai Municipality – 13 confirmed cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from Mali and Guinea (via Paris CdG), 1 Chinese each returning from Uzbekistan, the UK (via Sri Lanka), Pakistan (via Sri Lanka),  France, Hungary, the Maldives, a French national coming from France (via Helsinki), a Bulgarian national coming from the UK, a Italian national coming from Italy (via Copenhagen), and a Bengali national coming from Bangladesh; 1 suspect case, no information released
    • Xi’an in Shaanxi Province – 6 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from Belgium, 1 Chinese national each returning from the Netherlands (via Brussels) and Serbia (via Brussels), and 2 foreign nationals coming from Belgium; 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Uzbekistan
    • Guangzhou in Guangdong Province – 4 confirmed cases, 2 Chinese nationals returning from the UK and 1 each from the Congo (Kinshasa) (via Nairobi) and the Philippines; 3 asymptomatic cases, 1 Chinese national each returning from the UK, Egypt and the Philippines 
    • Qingyuan in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from the Congo (Kinshasa)
    • Shenzhen in Guangdong Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from Russia
    • Chengdu in Sichuan Province – 4 confirmed cases, 3 Chinese nationals returning from Algeria and 1 from Egypt
    • Hohhot in Inner Mongolia – 2 confirmed cases, no information released
    • Taiyuan in Shanxi Province – 1 confirmed case, no information released
    • Shenyang in Liaoning Province – 1 confirmed case (previously asymptomatic), a British national coming from Germany
    • Nanjing in Jiangsu Province – 1 confirmed case, a Chinese national returning from Russia; 2 asymptomatic case, no information released
    • Hangzhou in Zhejiang Province – 1 asymptomatic case, a Chinese national returning from the Philippines

    Yesterday, Hong Kong reported 6 new cases, all imported.

  18. 18.

    Anne Laurie

    @MagdaInBlack: What I am hearing in the NW suburbs of Chicago is that bar and restaurant owners have no intention of shutting down again. They will get a lawyer and pay the fines, as it is that or go broke from being shut down.

    As I’ve said before (and will no doubt say again)… if past history is any guide,  some kind of government support is absolutely essential to break the chain of contamination in a modern city.

    Either the government pays people to stay home, or they open shelters where people can isolate and / or be treated (for those who are relatively ‘asymptomatic’) so that they don’t infect everyone else in their households.  Ideally, some combination of the two strategies!

    This wasn’t going to happen as long as Trump was in charge.  Now that it’s official Biden will be taking over come January, there’s more of an incentive for ‘everyone’ to work on cobbling together some kind of nationwide Income Support / Social Mitigation Program, like Pelosi’s HEROES Act on steroids.

    #MoscowMitch and the rest of the GOP Death Cult will still resist every effort, but as winter moves in, even the most FREEDUMB-obsessed red state governors are gonna find it hard to resist whatever outside aid they can get…  I sincerely hope.

  19. 19.

    WereBear

    @MagdaInBlack: I can imagine them saying the same thing as Godzilla roams the streets…

    And why do bars HAVE to be packed like sardines? Sure they save on rent that way, but we currently have a lot of commercial space sitting empty. Expand the space, avoid the crowding, have the bouncers police the distance and masks.

  20. 20.

    MagdaInBlack

    @WereBear: Godzilla would at least give them a visible enemy to shoot at ;-)  The big problem, as I see it is that this enemy is invisible, thus no one believe in it til it happens.

    As far as why bars need to be so crowded, it has been a very long time since I did the bar scene, but alcohol does that: the more the merrier.

  21. 21.

    germy

    If 20,000 people are protesting in Germany against new coronavirus restrictions, what the heck is going to happen here when our new president tells the MAGATs they need to wear masks?

  22. 22.

    NeenerNeener

    In my little corner of North West NYS we had over 270 new infections reported yesterday. I’m canceling the MRI that’s scheduled for early December, but there’s no postponing the annual state car inspection.

  23. 23.

    Robert Sneddon

    The Scottish First Minister is doing a press briefing at the moment — 912 new cases since Sunday noon but the Monday report is usually artificially low due to healthcare offices being closed over the weekend. Tuesday’s figures will be more representative of how things are going. The current localised restriction levels are under review and the West of Scotland is possibly moving from tier 3 into tier 4, a harder lockdown since that area is still reporting a much higher infection rate than the rest of the country.

     

    FM Nicola Sturgeon doesn’t do the “thoughts and prayers” thing much, instead she has welcomed the Pfizer vaccine test results announcement today, saying “science is going to find us the way out of this terrible time”.

  24. 24.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @Anne Laurie: these waves go in three month cycles, so by the time Biden is in office to do something the worst will have happen.  Hopefully having that in everyone’s face’s might break the Death Cult.

  25. 25.

    bluefoot

    @gkoutnik:

    @p.a.:

    Not only is it an ongoing emergency with hundreds of thousands dead and it only getting worse, the current administration’s policy is to make things worse.  Undermining current policy is the f-ing smart move right now.  It might save lives and prevent suffering.

  26. 26.

    Fair Economist

    @MagdaInBlack:

    What I am hearing in the NW suburbs of Chicago is that bar and restaurant owners have no intention of shutting down again. They will get a lawyer and pay the fines, as it is that or go broke from being shut down.

    Chicago area bars weren’t already shut down? That’s just nuts.

    @YY_Sima Qian:

    @Sloane Ranger: Wales relaxing distancing measures while infection rate has leveled, but not suppressed, in winter?!

    That’s crazy too!

  27. 27.

    Enhanced Voting Techniques

    @p.a.: Also too, can’t undermine a policy when a policy doesn’t exist.

    Conservatives all live in a world of blamestorming. Trump, as always, is their ID and so he refuses to do his job so that way no one can find fault.

    That’s why they Biden has to move carefully because the microsecond he can Trump will start screaming that Biden’s interference screwed up Trump’s secret plan.

  28. 28.

    mrmoshpotato

    Biden’s first move? Mask mandate for all. Here’s how he plans on doing it.

    Booga! Booga! Stay healthy, alive and not a disease vector!

  29. 29.

    Sloane Ranger

    @YY_Sima Qian:  Yes. As of 3rd November (last date figures available for), Wales had the highest per capita incidence of COVID-19 for the previous 7 days of all the home nations, 272.8 per 100,000 of population compared with Northern Ireland at 247, England at 243.2 and Scotland at 147.3.

    And, no, I don’t understand the reasoning either!

  30. 30.

    Geminid

    The NFL continues it’s Covid-19 crackdown. Pittsburg Steelers coach Mike Tomlin was fined $100,000 for taking his mask off during a post game victory celebration last weekend; the team was fined $250,000. And John Gruden, who already picked up a $100,000 fine in week 2, got an additional $100,000 fine for improper handling of a team member’s Covid-19 case. The team was fined $500,000 for that and other violations. Ten Raider team members were fined a total of $165,000 for violations at a September charity event, where they were seen maskless on social media.      The Raiders’ owner said he would appeal the fines, and called them “draconian.” That’s not quite fair to Draco. He probably would have had the owner executed.

  34. 34.

    Uncle Cosmo

    @Geo Wilcox:  Um, no, not really. Not nearly:

    It is estimated that about 500 million people or one-third of the world’s population became infected with this virus. The number of deaths was estimated to be at least 50 million worldwide with about 675,000 occurring in the United States.

    Out of a 1918 global population estimated at 1.8 Bn. Equivalent numbers for a population of 7.8 billion (2020) would be 5.2 billion people infected, >217 million deaths worldwide, with 2,160,000 of those in the USA (2020 population 331 million vs 103.2 million in 1918).

    At the highest US 7-day average death rate (2,113 last April 21) it would take 913 days to reach that figure – on 10 April 2023. At the current 7-day average death rate (934) it would take 2,066 days – 7 June 2025.

    Innumeracy among purportedly intelligent people will likely be the ruination of us all.

    o

  35. 35.

    Chetan Murthy

    @MagdaInBlack:

     I also get where they’re coming from. There is no plan for covering their lost income.

    When poor young black men engage in activities that are bad for public health, we think it’s FINE that the po-po shoot ’em without a trial.  Shoot these fuckers. Shoot.  Them.

    Their poverty doesn’t give them the right to fucking infect others.

    And the worst of it is, those drugs aren’t anywhere near as much a threat to public health, as this damn virus.

  36. 36.

    J R in WV

    @NeenerNeener:

    I’m canceling the MRI that’s scheduled for early December, but there’s no postponing the annual state car inspection.

    Since the Trump Plague took hold, I haven’t seen many cops on road patrol. After all , they can’t tell if the next speeder they pull over, or expired inspection sticker, is a car full of Trumpian viral disease.

  38. 38.

    LongHairedWeirdo

    @gkoutnik: Honestly, there are times and places to break norms, and if “saying ‘here’s what I would do’ violates norms, where ‘what I would do’ is listing of guidelines for testing, tracing, and isolating, plus standards for safe opening,” is a violation of norms, *this* is a time to break norms.

    Remember, the Trump administration’s own policy is “you can decide what risks you want to take” so by saying “here are ways to mitigate risks, and here are things that increase them” isn’t actually a change in policy.

    I suppose there’d be some room for questioning norms if Biden were saying what he’d do about X or Y foreign affairs. It was terrible when Mattis, a general who knew better, interfered in foreign affairs as part of the Trump transition. (In fact, I’d imagine a general(/admiral/etc.) knows better than *anyone* about foreign affairs, since their actions in foreign affairs are usually quite loud and have far reaching effects.)

    But for saying “Trump wants you to pick your comfort zone, here’s one you can pick to save lives” doesn’t even strike me as norm breaking. Bruising? Maybe. But WTF are we worrying about Democrats inflicting a few bruises, to save lives, when the Republicans outright break them, at a cost in lives?

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