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The Las Vegas Bloomberg Defenestration Debate – Early Reviews

by Anne Laurie|  February 20, 202012:21 am| 100 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, Open Threads

It amazes me that people thought including Bloomberg in the debates was a DNC conspiracy to help Bloomberg

— Scott Lemieux (@LemieuxLGM) February 20, 2020

"Candidates, please raise your hand if you wanna talk some big sh*t about Bloomberg" pic.twitter.com/58WPR9LoSC

— The Daily Show (@TheDailyShow) February 20, 2020

This debate so far:

Bloomberg: I should have just bought every commercial during this shit-show and stayed home

Sanders: Watch me yell until a faulty heart would have burst to prove I’m healthy!

Warren: I will bite the head off a live bat if any of you people f*** with me

— The Hoarse Whisperer (@HoarseWisperer) February 20, 2020

WARREN: pic.twitter.com/JBJoYH9OGY

— Pod Save America (@PodSaveAmerica) February 20, 2020

I love to see women standing up for each other AND I love to see women challenging each other and competing for power just as they do with men. We’re seeing both tonight and it’s awesome. https://t.co/2MU821nn0b

— Jill Filipovic (@JillFilipovic) February 20, 2020

Because you can express gender solidarity and still have serious, substantive disagreements, and somehow the two remaining female candidates know how to do that balancing act better than like 80% of the Internet https://t.co/Rtsi9IiD1n

— Sady Doyle (@sadydoyle) February 20, 2020

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Post Debate Open Thread: Let A Thousand Pundits Bloom!

by Adam L Silverman|  February 19, 202011:09 pm| 120 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

Well that’s over. Here’s some assassin kitties to brighten your night.

Also, Zeus the stubborn husky would like to speak to the water bowl manager!

Open thread!

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Continued Debate Thread

by Cheryl Rofer|  February 19, 20209:58 pm| 292 Comments

This post is in: Domestic Politics, Live Blogging

Elizabeth Warren is on fire, Joe Biden is getting into the fray, Amy Klobuchar is holding her own. Bernie is Bernie and Mayor Pete is Mayor Pete. Mike Bloomberg is watching $400 million go up in smoke.

Update: live feed here.

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Tonight’s Big Debate Show: The Warm-Up

by Anne Laurie|  February 19, 20208:45 pm| 298 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads

DNC forcing bloomberg onto the debate stage means they…probably don't want him to win. or at least want the other candidates to have a fair shot at him.

— Noah Berlatsky (@nberlat) February 18, 2020

Hope springs eternal. Per Wired:

… The ninth Democratic primary debate is being hosted by NBC News and MSNBC with the Nevada Independent at the Paris Theater in Las Vegas.

Moderating the proceedings tonight will be NBC’s Lester Holt, Hallie Jackson, and Chuck Todd; Noticias Telemundo’s Vanessa Hauc; and Independent editor Jon Ralston. There is also a sort of audience participation component: NBC had been soliciting questions from viewers on the NBC News website until last Friday. Wherever the questions come from, candidates will have 75 seconds to answer them, and 45 seconds for follow-ups.

The debate begins at 9 pm EST/6 pm PST and is scheduled to last two hours. The whole thing will be broadcast live on NBC and MSNBC in English, and in Spanish on Universo. If you cut the cord long ago, don’t worry—there are plenty of options:

– The debate will stream live on the websites of NBC News, MSNBC, and the Nevada Independent; on NBC News and MSNBC’s Facebook pages, and on the NBC News mobile app.

– Noticias Telemundo will livestream the debate in Spanish on the its website, its Facebook page, and on its mobile app.
– If you use an Apple TV, Amazon Fire TV, or Roku, you can watch live on the NBC News NOW app. NBC News Now is also a channel on XUMO, an ad-supported streaming service.

– MSNBC and NBC are also available with a paid subscription to streaming services like FuboTV, Sling TV, YouTube TV, and Hulu. Universo is also available on those services, although can require subscribing to an add-on package.

And don’t get too comfortable after tonight. There’s literally another debate—Round No. 10!—in less than a week.

The Guardian‘s liveblog is here, for those who prefer a little distance.

This is the first time in a while that I can honestly say I am looking forward to watching a #DemocraticDebate

Expecting everyone to pile on Bloomberg

— Rob Cohen (@Rob_Coh) February 19, 2020

Senior Biden aides say he's going after Bernie (guns, healthcare, challenging Obama for nom) and Bloomberg (anti-Obamacare, didnt endorse Obama in 2008). This is going to be interesting

— Jennifer Rubin (@JRubinBlogger) February 19, 2020

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A Few Thoughts Before Tonight’s Debate: Nobody Really Knows Much of Anything Yet So We All, Including Me, Need to Chill the Fuck Out!

by Adam L Silverman|  February 19, 20207:41 pm| 96 Comments

This post is in: America, Domestic Politics, Election 2020, Open Threads, Politics

A Few Thoughts Before Tonight's Debate: Nobody Really Knows Much of Anything Yet So We All, Including Me, Need to Chill the Fuck Out!

I know everyone is stressed right now. As I’ve written here before, on the front page and in comments, that’s the whole point of the President’s attempt to dominate the news cycle, social media, and digital media 24/7/365. It is to create a bizarro, reverse panopticon where everyone has to pay attention to the President, his surrogates, and his supporters all the time. His supporters do because they can’t get enough of the rage, fear, grievance, and victimization he’s feeding them constantly to keep them engaged, angry, and involved. Everyone else because a failure to pay attention could lead to being caught unaware as bad things are happening. The result is everyone is overwhelmed. All the time. And the intended effect is to make people want to give up, give in, and stop fighting, if not go along to just get along.

And the stress from the President’s never ending influence operation is being magnified by the Democratic primary. A primary that despite having started a year ago has seen exactly two states vote, or, technically, one state caucusing and one state voting, and only 65 delegates out of a total of 3,979 having been awarded as a result. Nevada’s now hybrid early voting ranked choice primary and primary election day caucus will award or allocate another 36 and then South Carolina’s primary will award or allocate another 54. By the end of February a grand total of 155 of those 3,979 delegates will be awarded. The 65 delegates already awarded are from states that are wildly unrepresentative of the Democratic Party and its multi-ethnic, multi-religious, multi-generational, and ideologically complex constituency made up of everyone from those from the center-right through the center and the center-left all the way out to the left of center. An ideological, ethnic, religious, generational, and even geographic diversity driven by the fact that the Republican Party and the conservative movement that sustains it has fully remade itself into a revanchist white Christian herrenvolk party. The quest for Nevada’s 36 delegates is the first contest in a state that looks more like the Democratic Party and its constituents. The question at this point is how its now hybrid and never before used because it is a response to the mess of the Iowa Caucuses system will actually work. Will we get a nice clean set of results or another election night mess that lasts for several days. South Carolina, where 54 delegates will be awarded/allocated, is the first actual contest of this primary that both reflects the reality of the Democratic Party and its constituents and will be run as an actual election, not a caucus and not a quickly kludged together hybrid early voting rank choiced primary and caucus.

As of right now no one knows anything. The polling is all very interesting. A lot of it is telling us a lot more about the pollsters and the pundits than it is telling us about the candidates, their campaigns, and the actual potential primary results. Even here we don’t know a whole lot about outcomes, but we do know some things about the actual 2020 presidential campaign. The first is that national polls are nice, but they aren’t telling us anything useful because, and bear with me here as I repeat this for the umpteenth time, WE DON’T RUN NATIONAL POPULAR ELECTIONS FOR PRESIDENT!!!!! The presidential election is going to be contested in the Electoral College and that means between 5 and about 20, at the most, states are actually in play depending on who the Democratic nominee will be and whether we have any third party spoilers. For those of you who are now despondent that your votes are pointless because you live in one of the states that are not potentially at play in the Electoral College, THEY ARE NOT!!! Running up the score in the popular vote and ensuring that turnout is overwhelming everywhere will have a gigantic effect on keeping the House and flipping the Senate. So don’t despair.

The second thing we know is that this election isn’t really about policy. It is about the President, whether he deserves a second term, and whether his surrogates and enablers in the House and Senate deserve to continue to be reelected. If the President is reelected, not one of the policies being proposed by the Democratic candidates will ever happen. If the Democratic nominee is elected to replace the President, but the Republicans retain their Senate majority and Senator McConnell remains majority leader, the new Democratic President will NEVER be able to enact those policies. I’m not even sure she or he would be able to properly staff their administration with the senior appointees that require Senate confirmation. You can kiss filling judicial vacancies, regardless of whether they’re Federal district, appellate, or the Supreme Court, good bye. It isn’t that I think one candidate’s policy proposals on any given issue are better than another’s. It is that none of those differences matters, from the small disagreements to the large ones, if the Republicans maintain their Senate majority.

The presidential election is a referendum on the President. The various Senate elections in the different states are all referendums on the Republican majority Senate’s and specific Republican senators abasement and fealty to the President. The House election, in the various House districts in every state, are about maintaining at least one institutional check on the President. That’s it. I know that doesn’t sound inspiring. I know that isn’t what supporters of specific candidates want to hear. But it is the cold reality of where we are. The only policies that happen if the President gets reelected are unconstitutional, anti-Constitutional, and frankly anti-American. The only policies that happen if a Democrat gets elected and Senator McConnell maintains his majority is none. Nada. Zippo. Nil. Bupkes. This election is not about whether any of the remaining Democratic candidates’ policies would be better than the others. It isn’t whether the Green New Deal can be sold to voters in states where the Electoral College is in play, Senate seats need to be flipped, and House seats need to be maintained. This election is about one thing and one thing only: the preservation of what is left of the democratic-republic, as imperfect, battered, and bruised as it is, that is our inheritance as Americans. A preservation necessary so that the long hard work of fixing what is left to be preserved can be undertaken to prevent the potential slide into kleptocratic authoritarianism from ever happening again. That’s it. If that isn’t inspiring enough for you, then nothing I’m going to write will make any difference.

This leads to third thing we know about this election, which is whoever gets selected as the Democratic nominee needs to have coattails. And that’s where the first point flows into the second. Some of the candidates have greater potential down ballot effects than others. Both positive and negative. So whether you live in a state in play in the Electoral College for the presidential election or not, we all have the same job:

  1. Make sure you are registered to vote.
  2. Make sure everyone you know who is eligible to vote is registered to vote.
  3. Make sure everyone you know makes sure that everyone they know who is eligible to vote is registered to vote.
  4. Vote.
  5. Make sure everyone you know who is registered to vote votes.
  6. Make sure everyone you know makes sure that everyone they know who is registered to vote votes.
  7. Stay alert, stay aware.

That’s pretty much it. Doing this, – ensuring massive, overwhelming turnout –  is how we can ensure that the Electoral College doesn’t get weaponized for the third time in 20 years and that the various senators representing the mild moues of disappointment and the tightly clutched pearls of hysteria that need a nice, quiet retirement receive their so justly earned desserts. It is how we ensure that the current Democratic House majority, which is one of only two real institutional checks left on the President and his anti-constitutional administration is preserved. And it is how we ensure that Democratic state governorships and Democratic state legislatures, which are the only other real institutional check right now on the President and his anti-constitutional administration are preserved and, wherever possible, expanded by flipping governorships and state legislative seats.

And, at least here at Balloon Juice, how about we try not to kill the various messengers who are either trying to explain how process works or what potential concerns might be for various candidates might be or even why you should support any of the candidates might be. We can all, me included, do a better job of not making all of us more stressed, more overwhelmed, and more freaked out.

Or we can defeat and destroy ourselves. The choice is yours. And for now, you still have a choice. That may not be the case after November 3rd.

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Pre-Debate Open Thread: What Is Bernie HIDING?

by Anne Laurie|  February 19, 20207:12 pm| 68 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, I Can No Longer Rationally Discuss The Sanders Campaign, Open Threads

Bernie supporters need to ponder this. Before Trump, EVERY serious contender eventually released their medical records.

Bernie is flouting a long-time norm, following Trump. If he’s this brazen at concealment, would he be appropriately open & transparent in the White House? https://t.co/vfIqlhkXvT

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) February 19, 2020

Sanders campaign has clearly concluded that the heat he's taking for hiding his medical records is not as bad as what's in them.

— Greg Pinelo (@gregpinelo) February 19, 2020

If I worked for a 78 year old candidate who had recently had a heart attack & he refused to release his medical records I would quit.

— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) February 19, 2020

I seem to remember Bernie’s Press Secretary gleefully spreading the ‘Hillary’s health is failing!’ bullshite smears back in 2016, but maybe I’m just prejudiced, because she’s currently comparing questions about Sanders’ health to… birtherism:

If there was any doubt that the lessons of media handling in the Trump era wouldn't be picked up by non-Trump candidates. Bernie's health records are his "tax records." Gaslighting and obfuscation coming up! https://t.co/kZgwmWGv4c

— Robert A George (@RobGeorge) February 19, 2020

The whole thing is just baffling. I assume even the staunchest of Sanders supporters are willing to concede that he is mortal. https://t.co/4836HMNC3I

— Starfish Who Should Be Told To Get Back To Work (@IRHotTakes) February 19, 2020

For me this whole thing boils down to the fact that they played this so so badly.

This wouldn't even be such a big topic if Gray hadn't gone on CNN and lied, now it's going to be a big thing in the debate.

— veto players stan account (@Convolutedname) February 19, 2020

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Be of Good Faith Open Thread: Warren Will Not Be Disappeared

by Anne Laurie|  February 19, 20206:02 pm| 86 Comments

This post is in: Election 2020, Warren for President 2020

They said America wouldn’t elect someone who was Catholic…
Or an African American person…
They say America won’t elect a woman, but we’re ready for #PresidentWarren. pic.twitter.com/kadc3tv1d4

— Working Families Party ?? (@WorkingFamilies) February 18, 2020

A group of women progressives who back Elizabeth Warren has formed Persist PAC, a super PAC airing pro-Warren ads starting Wednesday in an effort to boost her performance ahead of the crucial Nevada caucuses, a spokesman has told Axios https://t.co/eFt0o2AUAD

— Axios (@axios) February 19, 2020

#PresidentWarren is trending because despite her being 3rd in delegates, 3rd in most national polls and 2nd in endorsements, the media acts as if she doesn't exist. So her supporters are dealing with this blackout by making sure voters know she's still here and still kicking ass.

— Adam Best (@adamcbest) February 17, 2020

Suggested EW opening line tomorrow night:
“Gracias to Univision for hosting tonight’s debate and thanks to NBC for including me in something.”

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) February 18, 2020

The Washington Post:

… Warren’s campaign has avoided the sort of leaks, backbiting and recrimination that bedeviled other campaigns during their slumps. Its venting is very public, with the candidate talking more about whether female candidates get underrated and the campaign running ads about the media erasure.

“The night of the Iowa caucuses, CNN didn’t air Elizabeth’s full speech, but they aired the speeches of other candidates she beat,” reads one Warren ad now running on Facebook. “We can’t count on the media to cover our campaign fairly, so we’re taking our case directly to voters.”…

It’s been suggested I should be doing pro-Warren posts every day. I don’t want to overtax the patience of anyone who prefers a different candidate, but here’s a general plea: If you see something about your favorite, send me a link, so I can share it with everybody!

It's one poll question. But the thing that is very clear from this is how much of a flashpoint it was for Warren's supporters, who were furious at what they said was a stark example of how the media has erased her candidacy.https://t.co/Elue4tFR0k

— Molly Hensley-Clancy (@mollyhc) February 19, 2020

Believe it or not, it gets worse. And Peter Hart has been polling for decades. I think he polled for Polk, for god’s sake. https://t.co/Sqol47HllC

— Charles P. Pierce (@CharlesPPierce) February 19, 2020

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