Happy #SikhHeritageMonth! Celebrate with @GurdeepPandher and bhangra dancers from across Canada! https://t.co/ynGGq3xB4A pic.twitter.com/Bayr1kWhWX
— CBC Arts (@CBCArts) April 1, 2022
Get calm! (not my relaxant of choice, but neither is alcohol, and we FAFO’d prohibition for that already)
Bill to legalize marijuana passes U.S. House, but faces dim prospects in Senate https://t.co/Ns6o3sfVUS pic.twitter.com/iF9faSxHp2
— Reuters (@Reuters) April 2, 2022
We just passed the MORE Act. It would eliminate criminal penalties for cannabis offenses.
And expunge past federal cannabis convictions – addressing the detrimental impacts of decades of misguided drug policy.
It's time we took a stand for equity in our justice system.
— Adam Schiff (@RepAdamSchiff) April 1, 2022
13 states are above the national median per capita income & below the national per capita rate of violent crime
Marijuana has been decriminalized in 12 of those states https://t.co/29Y7mp9rqq
— Dana Houle (@DanaHoule) April 1, 2022
Raskin: I concede our party is not for the kind of cocaine fueled orgies that a freshman Republican representative bragged about but we do understand that their marijuana prohibition laws don’t work for our people pic.twitter.com/zmisr7V5St
— Acyn (@Acyn) April 1, 2022
and the only way to treat it is with this here oxy come on over if y'all want some https://t.co/CHwc1IhkrN
— Inanimate Carbon Rod (@rod_inanimate) April 1, 2022
Sportsball! The reactions to the World Cup draw seem fairly well-balanced…
Soccer-Reaction to World Cup draw https://t.co/FGImBspZz0 pic.twitter.com/9yaOvOOzHB
— Reuters (@Reuters) April 2, 2022
Geopolitical foes Iran and U.S. to clash again at World Cup https://t.co/tND7XxA2Cq pic.twitter.com/3SxJ2ABQtV
— Reuters (@Reuters) April 2, 2022
Baud
I remember when progressives were concerned that Republicans would overtake Dems when it came to pot issues.
OzarkHillbilly
QFT. I knew a guy who got super paranoid after smoking a joint, but all he ever did was run away from everyone.
OzarkHillbilly
And the worst gateway drug I’ve ever seen is conservatism. As often as not it leads to a hard core fascism problem.
Baud
@Baud:
It’ll be interesting to see once again how this continues to earn us zero votes.
Ishiyama
@Baud: Who is this “us” you speak of?
Geminid
@OzarkHillbilly: I’ve heard a comparison similar to Mr. Dogg’s, involving country guys with moonshine and country guys with weed.
New Deal democrat
Well, well, well . . . It turns out the Florida legislature should never have picked a fight with people who teach grammar for a living:
Florida teachers’ reaction to FL’s “never say gay” bill, which forbids the teaching of “gender identity” to younger schoolchildren:
https://mobile.twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1510009738263736326
You see, it turns out that words like “boy, girl, man, woman, he, she, him, her, and Mister and Missus” *do* indeed illustrate gender identity. Looks like all of those books (and names in class) have to go!
Baud
@Ishiyama:
Democrats.
NotMax
Wow.
rikyrah
Good Morning, Everyone???
Baud
@rikyrah:
Good morning.
Baud
@NotMax:
Good for her. 100 is too old to be cleaning outhouses.
NotMax
What the bloody eff is wrong with some people?
NotMax
@Baud
Well worth reading the short article linked. An inspiring lady.
OzarkHillbilly
@Geminid: Triply true out here in the hills and hollers.
eta: And I want to know WTF ever happened to that guy who wrote Long Haired Country Boy. Absolute proof of what I said above in #3.
Baud
@OzarkHillbilly:
I can see why the GOP opposes weed. They need their base angry, not mellow.
Kropacetic
The only claim marijuana claim has to being a gateway drug is that (a) getting it under prohibition puts people in touch with drug dealers and (b) fools treat it like it’s bad in a way that many other illegal drugs are actually bad, leading marijuana smokers to be dismissive of that type of claim across the board.
Prohibition is the real gateway.
If only it were that simple. Don’t forget the potential for paranoia.
Jeffro
The US
alcoholer excuse me beverage industry sure is working OT to keep grass out of the marketplace.Good luck with that.
Baud
@NotMax:
Damn. I don’t know how current that picture is, but she looks good.
debbie
@OzarkHillbilly:
Nothing encourages community like a bag of weed.
OzarkHillbilly
That’s a big fail.
Salt Creek
@OzarkHillbilly:
@OzarkHillbilly:eta: And I want to know WTF ever happened to that guy who wrote Long Haired Country Boy. Absolute proof of what I said above in #3.
After 9/11 he was dead to me, he revealed who he truly was. Just another grifting opportunist looking to hitch a ride on the nearest gravy train.
Booger
@Geminid: FYI I looked at the map and I took 810 all the way from Rt 33 @ Stanardsville to White Hall.
OzarkHillbilly
@Salt Creek: There was so much BS flying around after 9/11, I don’t even remember what CD did. I’d stopped paying attention long before that.
Starfish
@Baud: That was when Libertarianism was real.
Baud
@Starfish:
Yeah, we mock deficit hawks all the time for their fake principles. This is no different.
Kay
2005:
Geminid
@Booger: Then you passed a few miles west of me. I sometimes take that route to or from Crozet. The way past my house and on through Free Union is a little more efficient since it is straight every now and then.
On 810, the owners tore down the old Dyke Store and put up Maybelles, and they have a nice kitchen operation. I look forward to dropping by there some morning for a pancake breakfast.
Baud
@Kay:
I wish they had passed the withdrawal resolution instead.
Miss Bianca
@New Deal democrat: Just had to see that one again. Because it.is.glorious.
Someone referred to it in a previous thread as an example of “malicious compliance”, which is a phrase new to me and I am so in love with it I want to marry it and have gay babies with it.
Starfish
Ryan Ken is absolutely brutal as they lampoons “objective” reporting.
Geminid
@Baud: Those conservative evangelicals cannot resist the lure of temporal power. Baptists used to have a good tradition of separation of Church and State, but their preachers sold that birthright for a mess of political pottage.
Kay
@Baud:
It’s interesting that it was the Southern Baptist convention in 2005 and now it’s mainstream, universal Republican. That’s a lurch Right.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: It took a while, but they finally hit paydirt.
Salt Creek
@OzarkHillbilly: I believe it had something to do with the Dixie Chicks, him and the Marshall Tucker Band, Seriously pissed me off.
Kay
@Baud:
Their problem with public schools has always been that public schools are an elaborate, endlessly negotiated compromise. What they demand of public schools – MY CHILD DOMINATES ALL POLICY- is inconsistent with the thing itself. It’s an impossible demand.
Geminid
@Kay: Conservative evangelicals swing a lot of weight now in Republican areas, at least in Virginia. My 5th Virginia District Congressman is a product of Liberty University’s political machine. They teamed up with the secular radicals to replaced the Republican incumbent 2020. Denver Riggleman had officiated at the wedding of two campaign aides, both male. He was knocked out in a district convention.
Kay
@Betty Cracker:
I don’t know- I’m open to it “working” but I don’t think they’ve proved it up yet. I still think it will be difficult to convincingly portray everyone who is not far Right as a pedophile. They will continue to run into the intensely local nature of public schools- you can rant and rave about public schools in a general sense but the truth is public schools are big local employers so on a local level you’re talking about smearing hundreds of people who everyone knows. I have 4 public school teachers in my neighborhood. Two of our judges are married to teachers. We know these people.
OzarkHillbilly
@Salt Creek: Mo-Tucker too? Shit, I guess I’m not really surprised. In general, people get more conservative as they get older. I certainly have. Not politically, same old “who cares?” socialist I’ve always been, but technologically. I spend half my damn time screaming at stuff, “ON, OFF…. WTF IS SO HARD ABOUT THAT????”
Kay
@Geminid:
I think it isn’t discussed politically enough. How much of the (current, powerful) far Right are either religious fundamentalists themselves or the ideas come out of that. The truth is the Supreme Court isn’t just “far Right”. It’s hugely influenced by far Right Catholics.
I just object to the coyness around it- how we’re not permitted to identify what are clearly specific religious doctrines coming out of institutions that the far Right controls. I object to the dishonesty of the discussion.
Betty Cracker
@Kay: I sure hope it doesn’t work but have seen distressing signals that it may be here in FL. The “groomers” conversation mostly takes place in rightwing spaces. DeSantis’s Black Shirts usually avoid publicly smearing specific teachers and schools because that would backfire for the reason you indicate.
So they’re going with “Don’t talk to my first-grader about sex,” which sounds reasonable enough to normies, as did “Don’t make white people feel guilty,” which is the excuse they generated for whitewashing history.
I wrote a depressing post about it that I may publish later. ;-)
Geminid
@Kay: Something I notice about the machine that elected my odious Congressman is that it has no public profile. Fallwell Senior had his Moral Majority, but it generated a lot of resentment and pushback. The people who run Liberty now keep their operation on the downlow. One has to look beneath the surface to see it, but it’s there.
But as you say, the overt domination of the Republican party by evangelicals is obvious and needs to be called out. Even other church goers don’t neccesarily want harshell Baptists calling the shots in their communities’ government.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Kay: How dare you bring religion into this! //
Geminid
@Geminid: I should have included conservative Catholics with the hardshell Baptists dominating Republican policies.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@Betty Cracker: Oh, it’s not the teachers you know, or who live in your neighborhood. It’s the evil teachers in [local city] who are turning “our” kids trans-commie-CRT!
Betty Cracker
@Formerly disgruntled in Oregon: True. I live in the northern half of Florida, and the beliefs here about what goes on in Miami are every bit as outlandish as the local beliefs about what goes down in Portland or San Francisco.
Alison Rose ???
As a former coworker of mine (from about 15 years ago) once said in a TV interview, the only thing that pot is a gateway drug to is Doritos.
I don’t smoke now, but listen. As a teenager, especially at 14 and 15, I smoked enough weed to fill the Grand Canyon. There was a minuscule amount of waking time in which I was not stoned out of my gourd. The only other drug I ever tried was acid, which I did once and hated. Never did anything else even though it was pretty much all available to me if I wanted it. If someone wants to use speed or whatever, they’re gonna do it with or without trying pot first. The only reason it’s usually the first one is because it’s easy to get and less intimidating.
O. Felix Culpa
@Kay:
…is that they educate. Not a desirable outcome in conservaworld.
John S.
@Betty Cracker:
Ironically, Miami probably has more Republicans than where you are. But they’re mostly Cuban, so conservatives from the Redneck Riviera are happy to get their vote, but not consider them to be “one of them”.
I can’t wait to get the fuck out of this state and move to Washington.
kindness
Speaking as a lifelong pothead, my first ‘gateway’ drug was tobacco (I stole my mother’s cigarettes), my second was alcohol. It wasn’t till after those two that I started smoking the evil weed. Thankfully I never really acquired a love for tobacco and stopped trying to be cool within a few months.
Geminid
@Alison Rose ???: Now that researchers can study cannabis more freely, they may find the drug to be a gateway away from opioid or meth addiction. I read of a VA study showing fewer opioid deaths in states that allow medical cannabis use. Kicking either meth or opioids- or tobacco for that matter- is a physical and emotional challenge that cannabis could make easier for some. Cannabis has it’s own problems, but at least you can’t overdose or get a heart attack from it.
James E Powell
@Salt Creek:
Charlie Daniels said stupid right-wing things going back to the Reagan days. Not really a major artist, so I never gave him much mind.
Brachiator
@Geminid:
I don’t think that the idea of a gateway in any direction holds up to scrutiny. I get the impression that people choose drugs, including alcohol and tobacco, for the specific kind of high it provides. And in most places cannabis is easily available.
Good point. I wonder how health issues have changed in states that have legalized cannabis.
ETA: When I go for medical exams, I am still asked if I have smoked tobacco. Never been asked about cannabis. Also, in California, the illegal cannabis market is still strong. But legal shops do well with cannabis edibles.
Uncle Cosmo
In the days when I indulged in the gentle weed I would never drive stoned. One evening after a bit of indulgence I discovered I had to drive to a friend’s place to pick up something right away. So off I went.
Everything was fine till I pulled up to a red light in the right lane and discovered the car to my left was a police cruiser.
8^O
Four right turns and eight blocks later I was in exactly the same place – with none of “Baltimore’s finest” in sight. And breathed a yooooge sigh of relief. Tell me about “paranoid”…
(It has been many, many years since my last indulgence, but FWIW my personal 2020-era addition to Thomas Pynchon’s “Proverbs for Paranoids” is Anyone who’s not paranoid in this day and age isn’t paying attention!)
James E Powell
@Geminid:
While that may be true, they prefer it to any Democrats calling the shots in their communities’ governments. Their state & national governments, also too.
Uncle Cosmo
Insufficient data on any possible relationship between marijuana-smoking and health to justify the insurance companies jacking up your premium because you indulge(d). And TBH any possible excuse to jack up your rate is all they care about. (NB Insurance is theft!)
Kay
It was always about preserving the Trump tax cuts. Always. Anything that involved repeal or reform of any of the Trump tax cuts was never getting by Sinema and Manchin.
Dems should put a straight repeal of the Trump tax cuts with all the revenue going to deficit reduction up for a vote- don’t worry- it’ll only get (max) 48 votes in the Senate.
It doesn’t matter what they trade or what they offer- as long as it involves “raising taxes” Manchin and Sinema will find an excuse to oppose it. It’s their one priority.
MobiusKlein
@Brachiator: In California, I have been asked about pot smoking in medical exams. Seemed routine. Also asked about sex stuff, for HIV screening.
mrmoshpotato
Ahem…COCAINE CAWTHORN!
Brachiator
@OzarkHillbilly:
I think I have become more radical politically, which I enjoy. Or just happy that I have not become afraid and intolerant as times change.
I also realize that I am profoundly grateful to have lived through and witnessed a time, from the 60s through today, of incredible social, cultural and political change.
Also love technological change. Had an aunt who rode in trains and carriages as a young girl, and traveled in jet planes as an adult. She loved it. I love new stuff even if I don’t know how it all works.
The one thing that surprised me is that I have got more cranky, and I have to work harder at patience. Some of this is clearly related, I think, to nutrition and other factors as I get older. I have to snack healthily and hydrate or else my mood is affected.
mrmoshpotato
@Baud:
Haha. It’s not weed that they all want to snort off of Dump’s fat, orange, fascist ass. (Sorry not sorry)
eclare
@OzarkHillbilly: A guy that I went to high school with was a super aggressive, angry driver. No one would ride with him unless he was stoned.
Geminid
@James E Powell: There are plenty of churchgoers who vote Democratic. They just don’t make as much noise about it as the Republicans do.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@mrmoshpotato:
“…their marijuana prohibition laws don’t work for our people”
Happy to identify as one of “Jamie Raskin’s people”!
Brachiator
@Kay:
Does this mean that Governor DeSantis is going to fight the Southern Baptists?
I would enjoy that.
opiejeanne
@Brachiator: The article is from 2005.
Brachiator
@opiejeanne:
Oh no. Southern Baptists and DeSantis are buddies again!
That’s what I get for speed browsing.
JaneE
Pot can be a gateway drug if the guy you buy pot from also sells other drugs which are both addictive and have bigger profit margins and wants you to switch products. Not really all that different from the upselling done for legal products. And almost every pot smoker ever started with tobacco.
I like knowing that if I want pot I can go to 3 or 4 different stores more or less locally and not have to worry much about contamination or adulteration or someone trying to sell me something I don’t want. Back in the 60’s you might get pot, or you might get some other green stuff that looked like pot, or you might get either of them that was laced with something which could be another drug to get you high or a herb/insecticide that would really do some damage. Or you could grow your own.
I really want to see medical research into cannabis and its compounds. I have seen one article several years ago that looked like it was promising as a new painkiller using a different metabolic pathway from NSIAIDs or opioids. It has been anecdotally useful against glaucoma for decades. But no research because it was schedule 1. And yet there was still research done elsewhere which showed it did have medical applications. It probably won’t cure cancer, but if something really useful does come from more research, it is almost a century late, and that is a real shame.
oatler
I was in line at a dispensary earlier this year and overheard a grumpy-sounding woman fumfering a load of QAnon nonsense. In a line to buy “mellowing” weed.
Geminid
@JaneE: One form of cannabis, the “Charlotte’s Web” strain, has proven effective at suppressing a rare and severe form of chilhood epilepsy. After testimony by parents the Virginia legislature approved this medical use years before permitting medical cannabis use in general.
I would be surprised if that is the only cannabinoid that acts beneficially on the human nervous system. Now that more research is allowed, scientists and laypeople might discover and develop strains that can treat other serious neurologic diseases like Parkinson’s.
Cannabis is a good natural analgesic. I was glad to hear it when the NFL quietly relaxed it’s drug testing for cannabis. Those guys need weed if anyone does. And as I alluded to already, cannabis might help people trying to get off opioids or meth. Some of the strains out there now are so powerful they might substitute for the more dangerous drugs long enough for the addictive hunger to fade. I think an addict would still have to have a desire to quit, but cannabis could make quitting easier.