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Forge around and find out — Michigan edition

by David Anderson|  July 18, 20234:47 pm| 46 Comments

This post is in: Trump Crime Cartel, Trumpery, The Republican Crime Syndicate

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The AP is reporting that the state of Michigan is filing multiple felony charges for each of the 16 Republicans who signed a fake electoral vote certificate.

Forge around and find out --- Michigan edition

I AM SO NOT A LAWYER, but reading through the felony complaints, I would imagine there are strong incentives for people to plead and squeal.

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46Comments

  1. 1.

    Fraud Guy

    July 18, 2023 at 4:51 pm

    The New York Times:  “…and here’s why this is bad for Joe Biden…”

  2. 2.

    Elizabelle

    July 18, 2023 at 4:52 pm

    Excellent news.

    I am thinking of a vacay in Michigan, in the next year or two.  Have never been anywhere north of Traverse City.

    I would LOVE if Michigan sees an influx of blue $$$ not being spent in Florida.

    Got to reward courage, and good government.

  3. 3.

    Kay

    July 18, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    Hooray. I really wanted this punished.

  4. 4.

    twbrandt

    July 18, 2023 at 4:54 pm

    From one news report:

    Michele Lundgren, who was also charged, previously told local television station WDIV that she thought she was signing an attendance sheet for a meeting.

    Good luck with that defense, lady.

  5. 5.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 18, 2023 at 4:55 pm

    Haha!  Felony the fuck out of the fucking fuckers!

  6. 6.

    Yarrow

    July 18, 2023 at 4:57 pm

    @twbrandt:  That is hilarious. Good luck with that.

  7. 7.

    Ken

    July 18, 2023 at 4:58 pm

    @twbrandt: Between that excuse, and the guy in the morning thread who says he accidentally voted in both Florida and Missouri, I’m finding it hard to decide which is dumber. I may have to wait for Popehat to weigh in.

  8. 8.

    oldster

    July 18, 2023 at 4:59 pm

    This increases by 16 the number of people who may be able to help Jack Smith make the case that tfg was actively agitating for insurrection. So, these two good-news stories may be related.

  9. 9.

    dmsilev

    July 18, 2023 at 4:59 pm

    @twbrandt: “The dog ate my homework. The butler did it. It was aliens.”

  10. 10.

    Fraud Guy

    July 18, 2023 at 5:00 pm

    @dmsilev: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4U9Yl5CXvcQ&pp=ygUcYmx1ZXMgYnJvdGhlcnMgbm90IG15IGZhdWx0IA%3D%3D

  11. 11.

    Kay

    July 18, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    This is them.

  12. 12.

    Omnes Omnibus

    July 18, 2023 at 5:05 pm

    @dmsilev: Here you go.

    ETA:  Fuckin’ Fraud Guy.

  13. 13.

    C Stars

    July 18, 2023 at 5:06 pm

    @Elizabelle: I’m just a week back from a visit in upstate Illinois. It was so lovely and we were lucky enough to be there mostly during a break in the smoke, and the weather was perfect. We ended up taking a vacation in Minnesota/Wisconsin last summer and it was also just extremely scenic and calm. I know those places are not Michigan but I sort of group them together as lake states with interesting geology and forests. We are thinking of going to Michigan next year (we live in CA)

    As for all the legal news, I am surprised at how little reaction I am having. They’re all just lying self-serving MFers from the top down. I’m out of emotions about it. I’m glad they’re getting a tiny drop of what they deserve but it won’t keep them from being sadistic antidemocratic jackasses.

  14. 14.

    Yarrow

    July 18, 2023 at 5:07 pm

    @Kay:  You’re moving to a good state.

  15. 15.

    Kay

    July 18, 2023 at 5:09 pm

    Kathy Berden
    Republican National Committeewoman from Michigan 🇺🇸🐘 Proud mom of 4; grandma of 10.

    Was it worth it, Kathy? You ruined your life for that sleazy, loathsome piece of shit who has no idea who you are.

  16. 16.

    WaterGirl

    July 18, 2023 at 5:10 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: That never gets old!

  17. 17.

    WaterGirl

    July 18, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    @Kay:

    You ruined your life for that sleazy, loathsome piece of shit who has no idea who you are.

    I want to marry that sentence.

  18. 18.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 18, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    @Kay: Nice website there.

  19. 19.

    Bupalos

    July 18, 2023 at 5:14 pm

    I’m actually more interested in there being some consequences down at this level of the insurrection than I am for Trump. Reason being that deterrence at the top level would really have to be the death penalty. When what you have to gain is the whole state, you’d need that kind of penalty for deterrence. And of course that isn’t on the table.

    Down here with the groundlings, where people are doing this “meh, should I, or shouldn’t I…” is where any felony conviction or serious fine or any actual consequences could make a real difference.

  20. 20.

    Baud

    July 18, 2023 at 5:14 pm

    @Kay:

    There was that one dude who got shot dead by police for Trump.  In Ohio IIRC.

  21. 21.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    July 18, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus:

    Jake: “I ran out of gas! I had a flat tire!”

    Also Jake: “My car was stolen! There was an earthquake!”

    Sure, Jan

  22. 22.

    Baud

    July 18, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    All this, plus Amir’s kitty. Today is a good day.

  23. 23.

    Tim Curtin

    July 18, 2023 at 5:17 pm

    Lock

    them

    up

  24. 24.

    Miss Bianca

    July 18, 2023 at 5:18 pm

    @Omnes Omnibus: Ahhh…WG is right, that one never gets old!

  25. 25.

    bbleh

    July 18, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    I would imagine there are strong incentives for people to plead and squeal.

    Well, we can at least be sure they’ll squeal.  It IS, after all, a weaponization of government as part of a political vendetta against citizens exercising their First Amendment Rights solely because of their political views.

    (Can I haz 6-figure rightwing think-tank salary now plz?)

  26. 26.

    dmsilev

    July 18, 2023 at 5:22 pm

    @Kay:

    Was it worth it, Kathy? You ruined your life for that sleazy, loathsome piece of shit who has no idea who you are.

    The really sad thing is that for some of them, they probably do think it was worth it.

  27. 27.

    bbleh

    July 18, 2023 at 5:24 pm

    @Kay: @dmsilev: now they are Righteous Victims of Persecution, just like Jesus!

  28. 28.

    Scout211

    July 18, 2023 at 5:27 pm

    I misread those two charges of “uttering and publishing” as “littering and publishing.”  I thought, “How dare they litter!”

    I guess I am just too used to GOP pols getting charged with all kinds of crimes these days.  But littering is beyond the pale! LOL

     

    @Kay: Thanks for the lovely Michigan election crimes hall of fame.

  29. 29.

    Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)

    July 18, 2023 at 5:30 pm

    @dmsilev:

    @Kay:

    There was a 50 something year old Jan 6th defendant, Audrey Southard-Rumsey, a respected piano teacher in her community, that Betty linked to downstairs who was absolutely unrepentant:

    During a dramatic 15-minute statement at her sentencing hearing, Southard-Rumsey pushed aside papers that included a set of prepared remarks. She instead blistered prosecutors, calling them “liars,” then accused a Capitol Police officer whom she’d allegedly confronted on Jan. 6 of being “terrified.”

    Turning periodically to face the prosecutors and the courtroom audience, who were seated behind her, Southard-Rumsey told the judge, “I wanted to tell you exactly what you want to hear, but I won’t. I won’t lie. There were vicious lies about me.”

    She accused Antifa of filming her amid the Capitol riot and said, “My whole dream of my life has been taken, because people have different politics than mine.”

    I don’t get some of these people honestly

  30. 30.

    Geminid

    July 18, 2023 at 5:34 pm

    @dmsilev: I think the ones who take a plea bargain won’t serve much time. That’s probably what the dairy farmer will do.

    The true believers who try to tough it out will be sorry, though.

  31. 31.

    EriktheRed

    July 18, 2023 at 5:43 pm

    @C Stars: Did you go to Illinois’ crown jewel of state parks, Starved Rock?

  32. 32.

    Ben Cisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️

    July 18, 2023 at 5:44 pm

    FAFO University needs an Alma Mater…

  33. 33.

    Jharp

    July 18, 2023 at 5:48 pm

    @Elizabelle: I have. Dozens of times. Pictured Rocks National Lakeshore is spectacular. Keeweenaw Peninsula is super cool. And Mackinaw, though touristy, is pretty good.

  34. 34.

    Jharp

    July 18, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    @C Stars: I am a frequent visitor to Michigan and will likely retire there. The tourist towns are unlike the rest of the Midwest. The redneck factor is a fraction of 98% of the Midwest. The lakes are stunning. As is the natural beauty. I go to hunt for agates on the south shore of Lake Superior, the most spectacular body of fresh water on the earth. And two little known facts. The rocks along the shore are among the oldest on the earth. Like 2 billion years old or even more. Yet Lake Superior is only 11,000 years old. I’m heading up soon. Oh, and do the research on bugs. They can be awful in the more remote spots.

  35. 35.

    lowtechcyclist

    July 18, 2023 at 5:56 pm

    @Kay:

    Was it worth it, Kathy? You ruined your life for that sleazy, loathsome piece of shit who has no idea who you are.

    I’m sure she’ll be cheered up when the kids and grandkids she’s so proud of come visit her at the state penitentiary.

  36. 36.

    Elizabelle

    July 18, 2023 at 5:58 pm

    We might have to do a Michigan vacay BJ meetup!  And thank you for all the information about places to visit in The Rational State.

  37. 37.

    mrmoshpotato

    July 18, 2023 at 6:01 pm

    @Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):

    “My whole dream of my life has been taken, because people have different politics than mine.” 

    Oh yeah!  That’s it!

    On the Saturday after Inauguration Day 2016, we gathered in downtown to listen to speakers (including my Representative) and console each other.  We did not storm the Capitol building in DC out of anger that day, or earlier in the month!

  38. 38.

    lowtechcyclist

    July 18, 2023 at 6:03 pm

    @Scout211:

    I guess I am just too used to GOP pols getting charged with all kinds of crimes these days.  But littering is beyond the pale! LOL

    Remember how seriously littering was taken, once upon a time. :^)

    I went over to the Sergeant, said, “Sergeant, you got a lot a damn gall to ask me if I’ve rehabilitated myself, I mean, I mean, I mean that just, I’m sittin’ here on the bench, I mean I’m sittin’ here on the Group W bench ’cause you want to know if I’m moral enough join the army, burn women kids, houses and villages after being a litterbug.” He looked at me and said, “Kid, we don’t like your kind, and we’re gonna send your fingerprints off to Washington.”

  39. 39.

    KenK

    July 18, 2023 at 6:18 pm

    @Elizabelle: The temperature is pretty warm, so maybe a little north country vacation is warranted. Great idea, Elizabelle.

  40. 40.

    Subsole

    July 18, 2023 at 6:28 pm

    @Kay:

    But it wasn’t for him, Kay. That’s what we keep missing.

    He was just the excuse. The man who gave them permission to finally put down the horrible, heavy burden of being human and stand there, purple-faced with their teeth bared and their eyes bulging, tendons on their necks standing out in self-satisfied vicious rage, and tell us what they really felt.

    These folks did it because they hate us. It’s hard for sensible, thinking people to understand just how much they fucking hate us.

  41. 41.

    A Man for All Seasonings (formerly Geeno)

    July 18, 2023 at 6:41 pm

    @Ben Cisco 🇺🇸🎖️🖥️♦️: Well their motto should be “Potes probare quod assumptione ad commodum tuum” (“You may test that assumption at your convenience”)

  42. 42.

    Bupalos

    July 18, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    @Subsole:

    These folks did it because they hate us. It’s hard for sensible, thinking people to understand just how much they fucking hate us.

    I don’t think you really have any better understanding of “these folks” (is this a monolith?) Than anyone else. And the way this kind of take parralel’s the deplorables’ ridiculous “it’s has to be all about me” bitterness should be a warning that you may not be thinking clearly.

  43. 43.

    The Thin Black Duke

    July 18, 2023 at 7:06 pm

    @Bupalos: Your concern is noted.

  44. 44.

    Manyakitty

    July 18, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    @lowtechcyclist: “Shrink, I wanna kill.”

  45. 45.

    Citizen Alan

    July 18, 2023 at 10:57 pm

    @Bupalos: i genuinely believe the majority of the MAGA supporters would be perfectly fine with the mass extermination of at least some Dem constituencies.

  46. 46.

    yellowdog

    July 19, 2023 at 1:48 am

    @oldster: I doubt that any of these low level GQP functionaries had any contact with TIFG. They couldn’t  provide evidence of his guilt.

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