Like a fading band that’s been coasting for years on a novelty hit, the Ron DeSantis for President campaign is desperately playing the old track, trying to news-jack the impending release of a new COVID-19 vaccine to stir up anti-vax, anti-mask militants to revive a sputtering candidate. I don’t think that will work, not even in Florida. (Orlando Sentinel)
The event on Thursday…was a return to a familiar message for DeSantis amid his struggling presidential campaign against former President Donald Trump.
DeSantis and (Florida Surgeon General Joseph) Ladapo spent most of the conference doubling down on anti-mask and vaccine rhetoric and railing against the federal government ahead of the new COVID-19 booster shot, which will be available soon, potentially as early as Sept. 13.
The shots, updated to target the XBB.1.5 omicron subvariant, are being produced by Moderna, Pfizer, and relative newcomer Novavax. They use the same mRNA technology that Pfizer’s and Moderna’s shots have always contained.
“They’re rushing these new mnra [sic] vaccines, COVID vaccines. They’re not even doing the trials necessary, and the FDA and CDC, they’ve basically become an arm of Big Pharma,” DeSantis said.
Ladapo incorrectly claimed that the coming booster had “no clinical trial done in human beings showing that it benefits people” and “no clinical trial showing that it is a safe product for people.”
Contrary to Ladapo’s claim, Moderna’s booster has undergone successful human clinical trials.
I almost never see people wearing masks and haven’t for well over a year. Whatever your views on that, the point is, it’s not a thing here anymore.
DeSantis and the crackpot he imported from California to serve as surgeon general successfully browbeat private businesses, municipalities, public health officials and school districts into stopping all measures to protect people against the coronavirus. So it’s ridiculous to try to revive the issue — they already “won.”
The only reason the “conference” was covered by The Sentinel is because somehow a non-supporter was admitted and made an uncomfortable (for DeSantis) accusation. The man said the governor created the environment that led to the recent racist terrorist attack at a Jax Dollar General:
Gov. Ron DeSantis railed at a Black questioner in Jacksonville on Thursday who suggested his policies bore some blame for the racist shooting there last month that left three Black people dead.
“You have allowed people to hunt people like me,” the man said, leading DeSantis to angrily respond, “I’m not going to let you accuse me of committing criminal activity! I am not going to take that…”
The man said the governor and his policies have “allowed weapons to be put on the street in the hands of immature, hateful people that have caused the deaths of the people that were murdered.”
Well, that man was not wrong. So he was, of course, promptly ejected from the venue.
“You don’t get to come here and blame me for some madman,” DeSantis said as his supporters cheered. “That is not appropriate, and I’m not going to accept it. That is nonsense.”
Keep spluttering angrily, Pudd’n Boots. Better yet, go do it in Iowa.
Open thread.
stinger
No thanks.
cain
“Puddin on the hits”
RedDirtGirl
What an asshat!
Old School
It’s the Sister Souljah moment he’s been waiting for!
Nora
I get it that the Republican brand is that nobody can criticize any of them for anything, that they don’t even have to LISTEN to people asking them difficult questions, but DeSantis is taking this to a new low.
Baud
Right. Whatever you think about the lockdowns and masks and vaccine mandates, they were restrictions on freedoms and there was a talking point for Republicans there.
Just being anti-Vax is not going to catch fire, and Big Pharma is suing Biden left and right so they can charge more for drugs, so please keep talking about them.
HumboldtBlue
Fani Willis is utterly tired of Jim Jordan’s bullshit.
Also, fuck anyone who doesn’t like my mask. Some silly old bint made a comment on Tuesday while I was in line buying groceries. Both me and the cashier (cool guy used to be my neighbor) were both wearing masks and this dessicated old crone stepped up with “woah, all these masks make me scared.”
Normally I have no trouble telling anyone to fuck off and mind their own business, but it was a quiet morning and we both ignored her and went on our ways. It was just so fucking uncalled for, particularly in the ultra-liberal-hippie-commune that is the North Coast Coop.
Sister Golden Bear
@HumboldtBlue: It was a “fuck off asshole” couched in legalese.
Trivia Man
maybe he realized that “a noun, a verb, and then say WOKE” hit its ceiling
OverTwistWillie
“struggling“??
Nah.
This campaign is “moribund”.
Cameron
Yeah, he’s not going anywhere with a virus rerun. Often I get on a crowded bus or go into a crowded theater and I’m the only one wearing a mask. And he’s trying to promote a disease surge?
trollhattan
Well, lookie here.
As to a booster, I’m happy to not be in a queue filled with Republicans as I get one. Having finally been snagged by the bastard a month ago, I’m not interested in getting covid again, ever.
Baud
“I’m not a Democrat who you can treat like that.”
Also too, part of me wonders whether this was a stunt arranged by DeSantis to make him look strong because he stood up to a black lib.
NotMax
DeSantis is the antimatter Sally Field.
“And I can’t deny the fact that you don’t like me. Right now, you don’t like me!”
//
trollhattan
Has DeSantis made his final decision on campaigning to bring back leaded gas?
OverTwistWillie
@trollhattan:
Lead paint and asbestos.
trollhattan
@HumboldtBlue: You should have at that point held her up. “You’re right to be scared, lady, now gimme all your money!” [points soapbar gun]
wjca
@OverTwistWillie:
Nope. “Moribund” would mean nothing was happening. Whereas “struggling” means that it is still absorbing time and energy (and money!). Which might otherwise be going to something more damaging. So “struggling” seems, for the moment, closer.
trollhattan
@OverTwistWillie: The short-lifespan trifecta.
OverTwistWillie
I guess the only question is if the crackpot Surgeon General would re-institute a mask mandate and take the hit for Ron?
No One of Consequence
Look people, I’m born and raised Iowan. While we have had our recent regrettable issues with caucuses (and I for one believe we shouldn’t be the first in the nation, we aren’t representative of the greater electorate), and other matters (cough Guv Reynolds) — We don’t deserve DeSantis.
I don’t live in Florida for Good Reasons, and he is one.
Thank you for your consideration,
Peace,
-NOoC
NotMax
@Cameron
Strictly anecdata, would guesstimate 10% or a skootch more were masked from what I witnessed during the NYC trip. Same rough percentage whether in the city proper (on the streets, on mass transit, in the theater) or in suburban malls or markets.
That percentage includes those sporting a mask but with it pulled down below the nose.
matt
I heard there’s a caravan of people wearing N95s at the Mexico-Florida border.
Kay
The ninnies are freaking out again! Something SCARY happened!
I’m glad they’re not going to be cluttering up the line to get the booster. No one should have any time for these people. Just go about your business.
Betho
I work in an academic setting and CoVid has exploded with the return of students. Just today a student informed a colleague she has CoVid and was in the smallish classroom with everyone this morning before test results came back. If exposed, CDC recommends wearing a mask for 10 days after exposure, and CoVid testing after 6 days of exposure. But still says go to work, and no contact tracing anymore. Not looking great around here. Thank the flying spaghetti monster, Moderna, etc. for the vaccine, which means at least all these student vectors aren’t killing us old folks off as fast.
West of the Rockies
Are there no AMA consequences for doctors (especially those prominently in the public sphere) wh spout such BS?
Kay
Wear a mask, get the booster but be sure and enjoy Joe Biden’s booming economy and the last of summer. Outside!
Let these idiots spin around in circles for a while. We calmly handled this last time, they freaked out and lost their shit, and the exact same thing will happen this time.
Kay
@West of the Rockies:
The AMA isn’t a governing body. It’s a trade organization. Voluntary. States regulate physicians. Well, sort of.
West of the Rockies
@HumboldtBlue:
Blueberries in Arcata?
Cameron
@NotMax: Ah,protecting themselves from chinfluenza.
cope
Through Raw Story (I know), I read a summary of plans to drop $17 million on a campaign to text Iowa voters. As I understand it, the text will include a link to…something.
I am an honest person but my first thought was that this would be an excellent opportunity for serious scammers to spoof the DeSantis text with one of their own including a link to an even more painful scam than DeSantis’.
Geminid
@RedDirtGirl: “El Caudildo.”
smith
@HumboldtBlue: In the dead thread below I posted a link to Willis’ entire letter. It’s worth a skim — I’ve never seen such a resolutely take-no-prisoners communication from a public official — there’s a gem on every page. She even gives him detailed advice on how he could do a better job on the Judiciary Committee.
Alison Rose
Not that I’m surprised because it’s DeSantis and he’s incapable of not being weird, but this is such a weird response to the man’s statement. The dude didn’t accuse DeSantis of doing the shooting, or stealing a gun and giving it to the shooter. This is very obviously a “I don’t want to try to respond to your actual question so I’m going to respond to a ridiculous exaggeration of your question so I can make you look bad” situation. DeSantis’ favorite pastime!
Christ, what a fucking asshole.
pacem appellant
There was a hot minute where I thought DeSantis was going to pull it off. But nope. Lead balloons fair better than his chances. Which means that if Trump is in jail, I have no idea who the GOP nominee will be. Fun times!
trollhattan
@No One of Consequence: Born and partially raised Iowan here. Everybody seemed nice and helpful during those many visits back to see grandma, but then my hometown district sends (and sends and sends) Steve King to congress and so I wonder what that veneer of niceness is hiding, and what happens when it’s finally sanded off?
Suzanne
@HumboldtBlue:
Maybe some people should stop leaving their shitholes if they’re so scared of hygiene.
Baud
@trollhattan:
I’ve learned that some nice people simply outsource their hate and resentment.
JWR
One California city is telling DeSantis to hold their beer. (From Patch DOT com):
Well thank you very much, “Dr.” Mayor Pro Tem Van Der Mark! I can’t express how much safer I feel just knowing that you’re not only a temporary mayor, but an expert on virology as well!
wjca
Once again, DeSantis attempts to increase mortality among his supporters. How like him.
trollhattan
@pacem appellant: He’s the Rick Perry of JEB Bushes. TBH I was more concerned about those two than ever with DeSantis. From three time zones away he is just an ugly, badly spoken maniac and I have never seen so much as a single yard sign or bumper sticker and I saw plenty for (to pick a random example) Ben Carson.
Without California money you can’t successfully run for president.
OverTwistWillie
@wjca:
https://www.politico.com/news/2023/09/06/desantis-donors-florida-election-00114080
He’s getting dragged by Bruce Rauner.
Ouch.
trollhattan
@JWR: So, some Orange County Republicans are still clinging by the fingernails, eh? Can’t get washed away by the angry Pacific too soon.
tobie
I don’t live in Maine but I called Susan Collins’ office in Portland and told the person who answered the phone that it was time to put aside partisanship and to tell the Republican caucus in the Senate that anyone who cares about national security must vote with Democrats against Tommy Tuberville’s wholesale block of military promotions. The person on the phone was very receptive and didn’t ask me for my zip code.
Who else among the Republican senators might be swayed. Murkowski seems like a safe bet. Anyone else?
wjca
At a guess, some governor that we have never heard of — which might give him less baggage to overcome. Wyoming? Idaho? Oklahoma?
FlyingToaster (Tablet)
About 5% of folks hereabout in the Hub of the Universe regularly wear masks. I always have one with me if the shop I’m entering is crowded or clearly has no ventilation. From what I could see while dropping WarriorTeen off this am (second day of school), it was about the same percentage for students.
I wonder if DeSatan understands that people who aren’t scared-out-of-their-wits white folk also vote. In fact, there were 8 million more of us in the 2020 election; and more of their side has died of COVID. Nah, not a chance.
HumboldtBlue
@West of the Rockies:
No, the Coop in Eureka.
@smith:
Thank you!
@Suzanne:
I just don’t get how these simpletons can go through life and think using a device to stop the possible spread of pathogens is somehow the wildest and craziest thing anyone has ever done.
I know this, I’m done with them, fuck’em all.
Jay
@JWR:
I actually like the fact that even here, there won’t be vaccine mandates or mask mandates.
But then, I wear my M113 mask everywhere indoors, got my last booster in April, and will be in the first queue when the new boosters are available here.
It makes the idiots stand out.
tobie
@smith: Thanks for the link. I’m in the mood for belligerence.
On that note, if Spec Counsel/Grand Inquisitor David Weiss indicts Hunter Biden on gun charges, Hunter’s defense team better ask for all Weiss’ communications with elected Republican officials, Republican Party representatives, Republican mega-donors, and members of the Federalist Society.
Old School
It’ll be Trump even if he is in jail.
No One of Consequence
@trollhattan:
A fair question I have been asking myself since Governor Ray. He was a well-loved Republican governor who took in the ‘Boat People’ from SE asia during his tenure. Said it was a moral obligation to help those people.
I respected him greatly. His like has not been seen since — as far as political horse-flesh round these part goes.
Steve King is an abomination, I forgot about that odious little turd. The way Grassley is trying to die in office so Reynolds can appoint his grandson to the seat, and then the legacy can win it outright on name recognition alone. Sometimes I do dislike my fellow Iowans and their lack of vision / critical thinking skills.
Ymmv, peace,
-NOoC
trollhattan
@Old School: Only death halts Trump being their candidate and I’m not 100% sure even that works. Although the inauguration will really be lit.
Alison Rose
@JWR: Ah, Orange County. Getting back to their red roots after a brief blip of blue. Fuckers.
Ocotillo
Is there a more beautiful sight than watching some wingnut’s campaign burst into flames as it crashes back to earth?
Nelle
@trollhattan: Two positive cases in my granddaughter’s pre-K….and she is ill on my sofa right now. She had a 101 fever this morning at school. She’s testing negative but I think it is still too early to tell. We’re all vaccinated…but we’ll see.
JWR
@trollhattan:
Yeah. But hey, if not for the possibility of dying a horrible, painful death, what else have they to offer? Huntington Beach had some huge waves last weekend, but it wasn’t enough to wash away the crap they’re clinging to. Oh well. Maybe after the next tropical storm rolls through… ;)
WaterGirl
@OverTwistWillie: I had hoped to never hear that name again.
OverTwistWillie
@trollhattan:
Time to bring out the relic.
Metatarsal? Vial of blood?
Who gets to be the administration’s medium?
Mr. President would like a hamburder and Coke…
Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!)
@tobie: My understanding was the the possible firearms violation charge (lying about illegal drug use) was considered to be “not likely” based on the USSC’s last gun-unbanning ruling making that law unconstitutional.
I thought they were expecting lots of big-juicy, tax code violations. We all know how much the MAGAT’s hate tax cheats. /s
Just Some Fuckhead
Seems like a bad time to kill even more of your own supporters.
Nelle
@tobie: Joni Ernst wrote me that she totally supports Tuberville because she is so very, very pro-life.
Nelle
@No One of Consequence: Robert Ray’s grandson just married a descendent of the “Boat People.”
Old School
Jay
@Nelle:
with the home tests, it can take 3-5 days of Covid before you get a positive test result.
Suzanne
@HumboldtBlue: Like, I fully expect that some people will think I’m fearful if they see me in public wearing a mask. (But IDGAF.) But to think they’re scary?! Like, what kind of weak-ass panties-wetter are you?! Better stay home, there’s scary shit outside!
I will note that I had to take SuzMom to the hospital last week for a pre-surgical test, and I had Spawn the Youngest with me. The hospital staff told me that StY had to wear a mask. She was sad about it and put up more resistance that she ever had in the past, and she had to wear once but no one else (including most of the hospital staff) had to wear it. Which is…. an impossible thing to explain to a little kid. So I wore one. When most people wore one, she was willing, because it was the norm. UGGHHHHHHHH.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
Speaking of old hits, the nearby art house ran a 50th anniversary screening of “American Graffiti”. 1973 was a little before my time, so I’ve never seen it, other than a few clips. It was amazing. The music and the actors were so likeable. I’ve always wondered why it was such a big hit and how did it unleash a post 60s nostalgia phase. But seeing it in full, explains it.
NotMax
Speaking of masks, one thing noticed in Times Square was maybe a half dozen petite young ladies among the costumed characters milling about for $$, each wearing a Minnie Mouse head.
When they pushed the false head back over their scalp between shilling for selfies (it was hot!) every one of them, without exception, also had on a COVID mask underneath. May be required by local statute?
Rest of the costume consisted of body tights and a sparkly little (pinafore?) dress, in pastel colors. Except for one with the tights, the same mouse head and a Wonder Woman mini-dress complete with the WW logo. Go figure.
No One of Consequence
@Nelle:
I did not know that. And I should apologize, an inartful reference in my post that might have been misconstrued:
Boat-People was not meant as a perjorative, but rather that was a collective noun used ( iirc in the Des Moines Register in the day) for reference to refugees from Cambodia and Laos, and some Vietnamese if I recall correctly.
As a white mutt of a human myself, I believe it was a means for collective reference, because my fellow states people have little chance of guessing correct country of origin based on appearance. I count myself among them, and my wife is Taiwanese. Somehow she has some sense to that that I just cannot pick up on. Unless I happen to hear some language being spoke, then I usually have a better guess. Though I speak little of a few asian languages. Very, very little.
Anyway, I wanted to apologize, because upon re-read, that sounded more crass than I had intended. Collective opinion here is pretty solid in my experience, so I do not want to get sideways with that or any Jackals here. (or really elsewhere for that matter, Jackals of spirit, mind you)
Peace,
-NOoC
Rocks
@smith: That letter from Fani Willis to Jim Jordan is a thing of beauty! I’ve sent it to my son who is preparing to apply to law school as a fine example of what he should aspire to.
tobie
@Mike S. (Now with a Democratic Congressperson!): I think I heard on Chris Jansen’s show on MSNBC this afternoon that Weiss plans to empanel a grand jury for the felony gun charge and misdemeanor tax offenses. Sounds like Weiss caved to pressure after receiving the letter from Smith, Jordan and Comer on the eve of the plea deal.
Almost Retired
@trollhattan: Me too. All those (seemingly) sweet people I grew up with would repeatedly elect Steve King (and that whack job Governor – or series of whack job Governors). Any they wonder why their brighter children flee the place before the ink on their diploma is dry.
wjca
Since I wasn’t there, I may well be missing some nuances here. But might it be that the masks were reminding her that she needed to be scared. Of Covid.
But from your reaction, I suppose such good sense was not the case….
MazeDancer
Navarro found guilty
tobie
@Nelle: Ernst may be one of the stupidest Senators in office, though Tuberville and Cindi Hyde Smith are offering stiff competition for that distinction.
Ben Cisco
Navarro FAFO
BWAHAAHAA
Baud
@MazeDancer:
👍
Sister Golden Bear
@NotMax: I’m going to be in Maui the first week of October. Would love to get any recommendations for restaurants etc. and perhaps do a two-jackal meet-up while I’m there.
hueyplong
Navarro guilty on two counts of contempt of congress.
Kay
@Suzanne:
The older Wal Mart employees are back wearing masks. I don’t blame them at all – we had a ton of covid in this 70% Trump county. I’m amazed I never got it.
I was trying to make my face encouraging, sympathetic – I imagine the ninnies are screaming at them again. I always think of that video of the Trump nut in Target shrieking and throwing masks off a display rack. There are like 27 million people like her in this country. The rest of us have to stick together.
NorthLeft
Canadian here. I have been wearing a mask in places that are particularly crowded since about early August. I had actually stopped wearing a mask for a couple of months.
My wife and I are still Novids, and I don’t feel like making a small effort to stay that way is a big deal. We are planning on getting the next COVID vaccine in October. That will be our sixth round.
Almost Retired
@MazeDancer: Excellent. I don’t think he put up a defense, but I’ll take the win anyway!
hueyplong
@Almost Retired: He tweeted an appeal for $$ while waiting for the jury to come back.
Subsole
@Jay: I just want to say it’s hilarious that your mask shares a model number with an actual APC. I don’t know why that makes me chuckle, but it does.
Almost Retired
@hueyplong: Ha! It’s sort of a GoFuckMe account. Weasel.
Subsole
@Old School:
It’ll be Trump even if he’s in Moscow.
Or Hell.
hueyplong
@Subsole: Maybe going to the first one hastens his arrival at the second.
Matt McIrvin
I’m oppressing Ron DeSantis by wearing a mask RIGHT NOW, muuaha ha ha ha ha!!!!
West of the Rockies
So is this like a goin’ to prison conviction?
pacem appellant
@Alison Rose: @JWR: Just Huntington Beach. The place is a cesspool for RWRJs. Katie Porter represents an OC district.
Since there are no county-wide mask mandates, I don’t see this being anything other than symbolic. If the county says mask up, it won’t matter some numbnuts in HB think.
NotMax
@Sister Golden Bear
Meet-up sounds cool. As for restaurants, so out of the loop that don’t know what is still in business. Will try to remember to ask around among acquaintances.
If may ask, staying in Kihei (south shore)? Dunno for sure but you should be able to get bargain pricing on a rental car, seeing as there are hundreds and hundreds of them currently being stored on any available plot of vacant land surrounding the airport due to downturn in tourist trade.
Top two musts if your first visit: 1) Haleakala crater, (2) the road to Hana. The latter will eat up most of a full day, even though as the crow flies it’s only about a 50 mile distance.
Baud
@Kay:
I always wear masks in retail establishments, and I notice many of the workers there wear them too.
If they’re doing it, I’m doing it.
zhena gogolia
@Just Some Fuckhead: Hi!
cain
@Old School: The idea is that winning will get him out of jail – so literally they will be voting at that point to get him out of jail.
Alison Rose
@Ben Cisco: I second that emotion!
BAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Weapon X
@hueyplong: Wait, so having Ron Vara as a character witness didn’t sway the jury? What a travesty!
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@OverTwistWillie: That’s two thirds of the title of my ’70s era childhood memoires, if I ever write them. The working title is Lead, Asbestos and Polyester: My Life in the ’70s.
pacem appellant
@trollhattan: Good point. He has no traction here among the big-money techbros and old-school Reaganites.
When I see him on teevee, I see a rejected Trump clone that escaped the factory before it could be re-absorbed. There is no appetite for a noncharismatic Trump, especially when the real deal is still running free.
Matt McIrvin
@Old School: they got it from a lefty British newspaper???? /s
Jay
@Subsole:
I still take a pulse/oximeter test every morning, and Vitamin D supplements when there hasn’t been much sunshine time.
Jay
@Matt McIrvin:
“Guardians” is the Space Force term for members. So basically, the Space Force membership created and approved the mission statement.
NotMax
@Sister Golden Bear
Bookend to the NYC meet-up, which kind of numerically fizzled. Only me and Layer8problem (waves hello). Stimulating nonetheless.
With any luck fellow Maui resident Hkedi [Kang T.Q.]. might see your comment and chime in with some recommendations.
Bill Arnold
The students, are, however, rolling the dice on things like damage to cognition, to the cardiovascular system, etc. Maybe 1 in 8 each time they get infected. (Probability seems a bit lower per new case after the first one or two. Paxlovid like halves the risk.)
Damage to cognition means dropping out or bad grades, and hoping for recovery within a few months.
(A friend’s son in high school had many months of brain fog; haven’t asked about that case since then; maybe still a problem.)
Baud
Speaking of DeSantis, Disney amended their complaint today. I’m not sure what’s new.
https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/67271062/87/walt-disney-parks-and-resorts-us-inc-v-desantis/
HumboldtBlue
@wjca:
One of the reasons I did not respond was because I extended her that benefit of the doubt, but she was just really being an ass.
Baud
@Jay:
Also Cleveland’s baseball team.
Tony G
That’s very true about people wearing masks. I live in northern New Jersey, a few miles from New York City — as “blue” an area as anywhere in the country. I still carry a mask with me, and I put it on when I’m in a store or on a bus or train — because, why the hell not. But I very seldom see anyone else wearing a mask. Right wing people are, pretty much by definition, stuck in the past. In this case DeSantis seems to think that it’s still 2020 (when people in Florida were dying like flies). He is absolutely empty of any thoughts and ideas. Wait until DeSantis finds out that Bob Dylan played an electric guitar in 1965!
zhena gogolia
Wow, I just was able to read Fani Willis’s letter. Beautiful.
Bill Arnold
@cope:
Seriously, it’s an opportunity. Those with unpatched (inc older) phones could end up with rooted phones.
Alison Rose
@Baud: They added this to the final page.
Baud
@Alison Rose:
Hahaha. If I were the judge, I’d allow it.
What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: 60s nostalgia would have been a thing without American Graffiti. Every era has it’s nostalgia moment when the original cohort hits middle age like clockwork. Y2K nostalgia is on deck as we speak.
But American Graffiti is great. During my few years in Champaign Urbana they were running a classic film program to raise money to restore a historic old theater in downtown Champaign. Saw American Graffiti on the big screen. Also Jaws, Raiders of the Lost Ark, Casablanca, and many more. The only one of those I’d seen on the big screen was Raiders. Also maybe one of Connery Bond films but I’m not sure. The highlight for me because I’d never seen it previously was Sunset Boulevard. What a great film noir.
JPL
@Alison Rose: 😆😆😆
Ben Cisco
@Alison Rose: You love to see it!
The Fat Kate Middleton
@No One of Consequence: In complete agreement here (as another Iowan). If I had to endure both Puddin’ Boots and Kimmy the C over a longer period of time, I’m not sure I could survive. And if TFG actually makes it the Hell Trifecta, I’m done.
MisterDancer
It really is. One of the fashion subreddits I follow is currently discussing exactly that as a current trendy set of style choices.
Alison Rose
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: My mom convinced me to watch American Graffiti in my late teens by telling me that the bulk of it was filmed in the town we were currently living in. Some shots were also done in my hometown, just south of there. I’m glad she talked me into it because it was a fun movie, even if some of it didn’t come across super well to me in the late 90s.
tobie
I just read Fani Willis’ response. The chef’s kiss was the closing formula, “Yours in service.” I so want a cigarette right now.
Brachiator
@smith:
Jesus !
I loved the part where she said, “I could just ignore your bullshit, but I will also metaphorically kick your ass while demolishing every phony argument you have raised, and giving you advice that might help you in the future.”
HumboldtBlue
There is a MASSIVE Cat 5 hurricane forming near Cabo San Lucas. The fucking thing is huge, look at that eye!
The Thin Black Duke
@Just Some Fuckhead: Welcome back.
Ben Cisco
@Brachiator: She decided SHE HAD TIME TODAY!
LOL
Alison Rose
@HumboldtBlue: Yikes!! They’re warning SoCal and Central Coast about potential massive waves…which means the surfers are probably already gearing up.
Geoduck
@pacem appellant: If something happens that permanently removes the Shaitgibbon from contention, I can totally see the MAGA crowd rallying around DeSantis. The only thing he’s done to piss them off is nip a bit at the Chosen One’s ankles, if that problem goes away, then full speed ahead.
RAVEN
@NotMax: And go to to volcano the first day or so of your trip. You won’t be able to sleep anyway and you have to leave really really early. Also, take a warm jacket and long pants.
Mike in NC
Ron DeSaster has, of course, promised to go back and rename all of the military bases that were previously named after Confederate generals. That idea seems to be a real crowd pleaser among old white people in the Deep South. He’s nothing if not a sweaty Florida redneck.
Brachiator
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
George Lucas was 29 when he made American Graffiti. Actor Ron Howard was one of the younger cast members, age 19 when the film was made.
But I agree that there are fun, and lovely nostalgia films that pop out regularly.
I have watched some young YouTube people “react” to American Graffiti. Some cannot imagine wasting gas just driving around. Some of the youth culture language and behavior seem foreign, which makes me feel ancient.
That the movie is a precursor to the Vietnam War era doesn’t hit for the youthful reactors. In a few more years, you might need annotations to accompany the film.
RAVEN
@Alison Rose: When I got out there last January I headed down to the Manhattan Beach Pier early the first day, It was pounding and I was talking to one of the surfers and he said “dude, this is the end of it, you should have seen it last weekend”!
RAVEN
@Brachiator: More American Graffiti isn’t near the film but it has a good deal of Charles Martin Smith in the Nam. He looked so much like my buddy who was killed that it always freaked me out.
More American Graffiti (1979) Terry “The Toad” story – all scenes/clips – Vietnam
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Alison Rose: Does Petaluma look the same today as it does in the film – a central business district with 2 story buildings?
jonas
@Old School: “Guardians”? Are they *trying* to sound like a comic book franchise?
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@RAVEN: The ending, where they tell you what happens to the protagonists: 1 gets killed by a drunk driver and another gets killed in Vietnam is jarring.
smith
@jonas: When you start with “Space Force” where else are you going to go?
Brachiator
@Geoduck:
I don’t know. DeSantis certainly is in tune with MAGA values, but he is personally deeply unlikable. The political media can’t disguise or minimize the creepy vibes he throws off.
When is the next debate? I guess Trump is still the presumptive Republican nominee, so I don’t know if the MAGA crowd is seriously considering DeSantis as an alternative. They don’t have to, for now.
Baud
@smith:
Stormtroopers?
karen marie
@trollhattan: Am I the only one concerned about what will happen when Trump dies?
Baud
@karen marie:
No, I’m also worried the celebrations will get out of hand.
Kay
@Baud:
lol
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Baud: I sat next to a lovely young flight attendant on a recent flight and she was really appreciative that I wore a mask. She told me she’s contracted Covid 5 times and the company line that you can’t get Covid on the airplane because they use HEPA scrubbers to clean the air is “bullshit”. She said the vaccine makes a world of difference, when she got Covid before the vaccine it felt like the flu x10. With the vaccine, Covid feels like an average flu.
Jay
@smith:
Up?
wjca
Obviously they should have gone all in. “Guardians of the Galaxy” would have removed all doubt.
raven
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Yea, it got to me too but it turned out Terry was not killed but MIA near An Loc and not KIA. Check out the link I posted, he was a raggedy ass troop much like yours truly.
Omnes Omnibus
@Just Some Fuckhead: When is it considered a good time to do that?
Jay
@Baud:
Trademarked.
Ruckus
@RedDirtGirl:
Asshats are better than that!
I mean really comparing DeShit to asshats? He’ll never measure up to asshat territory, he’d have to improve at least up to completely shitty human to get up to asshat.
@smith:
I’m liking Fani Willis more and more. I like that she so far outclasses people who think they can get away with anything – because they are SPECIAL!
wjca
At a guess, they put him on the ballot anyway. And there’s a (metaphorical, alas) bloodbath for the VP slot on the ticket.
Gretchen
@smith: my favorite was Willis telling Jordan that since he’s not a member of the bar he’ll have to pay more for a book on Georgia law. He finished law school but never passed. Way to rub it in.
karen marie
@West of the Rockies: Potentially. Bannon was also convicted but the sentence has been stayed on appeal, going on a year. My hope is that his appeal will fail and that will hasten resolution of Navarro’s inevitable appeal.
raven
@HumboldtBlue: Looks like it’s going to turn out to sea.
Like Trying to Reason with Hurricane Season
Jeffro
@smith: oh. muh. GAWD
If he was smart, Jordan would immediately resign and head to the nearest hermit shack in the woods, never to be heard from again
”Chairman Jordan, I often tell people ‘deal with reality or reality with you with you’ “ 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Alison Rose
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: There are a lot of the original buildings still, yes! They’ve really worked to keep the charm of it, so most of the downtown area is still in the old brick and stone buildings with moldings and signs and such. It’s a really wonderful downtown.
There’s this building, although it’s no longer home to the Seed Bank. And my beloved Vintage Bank Antiques vacated this building, which was indeed a former bank and is amazing inside. This was also one of my favorite storefronts, and you can see that 1870 up top.
Ruckus
@Alison Rose:
Christ, what a fucking asshole.
I understand that he has that tattooed on his butt. Or maybe on his back just below his, what’s the thing that holds up his asshat? Must be that lump of dried shit on his shoulders.
AlaskaReader
@tobie: Murkowski’s fable doesn’t match up with the reality.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Brachiator: I loved “Licorice Pizza”. I think it could have been set in any era, as the ending borrows heavily from “The Apartment”, but the 70s nostalgia with the pinball and water beds was fun.
Alison Rose
@karen marie: My concern is that no matter how it happens, his groupies will blame it on Biden or the Democrats in general. He could get cancer and they’d insist antifa injected it into his hair dye or something.
StringOnAStick
@Nora: A new low, but a familiar one. DeSantis’s bluster in the face of uncomfortable questions and his umbrage at being accused sound like a fundamentalist preacher doing the “how dare you!” bit.
Odie Hugh Manatee
My recent mask story is going to the Doc’s last week and having the nurse who checked me is asking me if I was wearing the mask because I was sick or “are you scared of something”. She then proceeded to take my blood pressure and somehow put a slice about one inch long in my forearm. The whole thing has left me creeped out and wondering what to do.
I took care of my arm at home, not at the Doc’s office. It’s the first time I have ever been injured at a doctor’s office. I’m still trying to figure out how to approach this. The cut was shallow and at an angle so a lot of capillaries were cut which was a lot of initial bleeding which quickly stopped. I have no idea how it happened but maybe there was a blade hidden in the BP cuff…
Fucking nuts but the “afraid” bit about my mask from a nurse was weird.
raven
@Alison Rose: Don’t forget the 50 years of subsequent whining, My old man went to his death convinced Chicago stole the election from Nixon.
persistentillusion
@Alison Rose: A friend’s husband’s band was in the soundtrack. The band was Flash Cadillac. He kept the Gold Record they received in the loo.
The Lodger
@Mike in NC: I’d rather see Fort Bragg re-renamed after Alvin
bill
Only one state in the union that isn’t in the green at the moment.
https://covidactnow.org/us/florida-fl/?s=47623510
matt
@Nelle: Makes sense then, to wipe out the leadership of the US military. Defund the marines.
raven
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?: The Virginia, they still do Ebertfest there.
Alison Rose
@Alison Rose: (Replying to myself because I missed the edit window) If you do a little Google Maps streetview stroll down Petaluma Blvd North from around Payran Street to B Street, and also Kentucky Street between East Washington and B, you can see more of the quaintness of it all. And then if you go over to D Street between the river and Sunnyslope Avenue and the surrounding blocks, you can drool over some of the gorgeous old Victorian homes.
Baud
@raven:
Interesting alternative history game: what if Nixon has won in 1960.
matt
@karen marie: could be a lot of collateral damage from all of the celebrating.
Jeffro
@Subsole: “well of COURSE he had to fly to Moscow…the CORRUPT Biden DOJ was probably just about to scoop him up on some sort of BS charge!”
-every MAGAt, for real, when it happens
lowtechcyclist
@Baud:
Fortunately, few of us libs celebrate by firing guns into the air.
UncleEbeneezer
@Betho: Last week I went to the grocery store and the lady in front of me in line, AND the one behind me both had masks on! Lady behind me joked “nice to see some people still taking Covid seriously” and I was like “OMG when’s the last time you remember THREE people wearing masks around you? 2020?” And then she told me she works at USC and they were suffering a serious outbreak there.
Ruckus
@Ocotillo:
Taking a few of their supporters with them…..
Alison Rose
@persistentillusion: So cool!
I’ll brag a wee bit for a sec: I have a gold record! Well…it’s a gold CD. One of the Grateful Dead box sets went gold while I worked there, and every employee got one. I feel like I did “earn” it a bit since I probably packaged at least a few thousand of the ones we sold :)
raven
@Alison Rose: While the film was filmed in California and certainly reflected the hot rod culture. Those of us from Chicago know that much of it was patterned after “Skips Fiesta” in Maywood. This is a video where John. Prine talks about the place and how it fit in his song “Whistle and Fish.”
sab
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Yikes. My doctor’s office people are all still wearing masks and have the mask mandate signs up, although they aren’t enforcing it with patients.
It is about the only place that I am still seeing masks. At the grocery there is usually only me, a couple of other customers and two employees.
Dorothy A. Winsor
Peter Navarro has been found guilty of refusing to answer a lawful subpoena. Will he do time?
raven
@Alison Rose: Of course, I have that set!
UncleEbeneezer
I just got back from a trip to H-Mart and thankfully, Asian-Americans in the San Gabriel Valley still mask pretty well. I’d say 50-60% of people still masking. I still have students who wear their mask through the whole hour-long lesson. I’ve tried explaining to them that we are very spread out, there’s a breeze etc., but they usually still want to wear them. And that’s fine by me.
smith
@lowtechcyclist: Well, here in Chicago when the 2020 presidential results were finally announced, there were suddenly fireworks going off all around. At least, I told myself they were fireworks.
Citizen Alan
@Alison Rose:
The most fascinating detail about American Graffiti to me is, IIRC, Lucas made the decision to film every scene (all of which take place in a single night) sequentially. His thinking was that the film ended in the morning after all the characters had stayed up all night, so he wanted those scenes to come at the end of shooting when everyone was exhausted.
UncleEbeneezer
The US Open has some strange, flu-like virus that seems to be going around. It’s so gross, the commentators won’t even suggest the possibility that it’s Covid. I just hope Novak Djokovic gets it and gets very sick since he’s been one of the worst Anti-Vax asshole athletes:
Alison Rose
@raven: “Whistle and Fish” sounds like the name of a British pub.
Timill
@lowtechcyclist: Vonce ze bullets are up who cares vere zey come down?
Zat’s not my department, says Wernher von Braun…
Alison Rose
@raven: :) IIRC there is an absolutely killer Scarlet->Fire on one of the discs. That was probably my favorite combo to see them do. Just lose your mind dancing to it :)
Alison Rose
@Citizen Alan: I love that! Makes a lot of sense.
Hoppie
@OverTwistWillie: Weekend at Donnies? Sounds like a hit to me.
raven
@Alison Rose:
I had the title backwards!
I been thinking latelyAbout the people I meet
The carwash on the corner
And the hole in the street
The way my ankles hurt
With shoes on my feet
And I’m wonderingIf I’m gonna see tomorrow.
Father forgive us
For what we must doYou forgive us
We’ll forgive youWe’ll forgive each other
Till we both turn blueThen we’ll whistle and go fishingIn heaven.
I was in the army
But I never dug a trench
I used to bust my knuckles
On a monkey wrench
Then I’d go to town and drink
And give the girls a pinch
But I don’t thinkThey ever even noticed me.
Fish and whistle
Whistle and fish
Eat everythingThat they put on your dis
hAnd when we get throughWe’ll make a big wish
That we never have
To do this again
Again? again????
On my very first jobI said thank you and please
They made me scrub a parking lotDown on my knees
Then I got firedFor being scared of bees
And they only give me
Fifty cents an hour.
Formerly disgruntled in Oregon
@raven: I love John Prine so much!
Sister Golden Bear
@NotMax: Yes, I’m staying Kihei. I’ve been to Maui about a decade ago so I’ve done both Hana and Haleakala, but it’ll be nice to revisit. Also day-tripping to Moloka‘i using the commuter flight, and rounding out the trip with three days in Kauai, which is the only other island I haven’t visited.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Baud: Would have looked like this (link)
schrodingers_cat
Artbreak:
I tried something new. Comments and feedback appreciated. Let me know if you think I used too many colors. I think, I may have.
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Dorothy A. Winsor: Time will do him
Geminid
@The Lodger: I thought the Army would rename Ft. Bragg after Matthew Ridgway, tbe WWII and Korean War commander. There must have been some reason they did not.
But “Fort Liberty” still has “Fort Bragg” beat by a mile. Besides being a traitor, Braxton Bragg was an idiot.
Sister Golden Bear
@RAVEN: I’m from CA, so it’s only a 3-hour time difference, and getting up at 2 a.m. to do the Haleakala sunrise isn’t that appealing (I am soooo not a morning person). I’ll do the sunset instead. Been there before, so yeah, I know to pack something suitable for the colder weather up there.
sab
@Geminid: Isn’t he (Bragg) the guy that as quartermaster denied his own requisition as an officer for supplies?
piratedan
@wjca: one benefit of doing so would be to have the bands playing “Go All The Way” as their song….
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@raven: Kennedy had 303 electoral votes. Give back Illinois’ 27 EV and he still wins.
Sister Golden Bear
@Jay: @smith: Please, please tell me their new mascot is a talking raccoon.
HumboldtBlue
Ken Buck (R CO) had some word for Marge Greene and her lack of understanding about the Constitution.
Geminid
@sab: Yeah, he’s the one; an “Old Army” legend that was probably true. The story is that his commander reviewed the correspondence and exclaimed, “My God Mr. Bragg! You have quarreled with everyone in the Army and now you are quarreling with yourself!”
Contemporaries said it was painful to watch Bragg struggle with a map. He was even worse with people.
Raven
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: dude
Dorothy A. Winsor
@schrodingers_cat: It’s beautiful. Lovely detail.
wjca
@schrodingers_cat:
But nature is pretty multicolored, too.
persistentillusion
@Alison Rose: So cool! I spent way more time in the bathroom than I needed to.
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
You used too many colors the way Mozart used too many notes.
wjca
Why settle for a talking racoon? (Which doubtless is some school mascot anyway.)
Go for the talking tree, which only says “I am Groot”
wjca
So, Bragg was DeSantis, before there was DeSantis?
Bill Arnold
@UncleEbeneezer:
Paxlovid prescriptions might be a reasonable good proxy, if the scaling factor (inverse of the proportion of infected people who get a prescription) can be estimated and the estimates updated over time.
zhena gogolia
@schrodingers_cat: Beautiful!
sab
@schrodingers_cat: I think too many background colors. I find it a little confusing, but I am very bad with colors in general.
But absolutely not too many colors with the birds and the plants.
Scout211
Way O/T:
The new documentary on the Boy Scouts on Netflix is really, really well done. Scouts Honor: The Secret Files of the Boy Scouts of America.
Highly recommend.
But trigger warning: there are many personal interviews with survivors. They were all very well done, but just a heads up for any survivors who may want to watch.
Jay
@Sister Golden Bear:
Srry, the official mascot is a parasitic exomorph Tribble subspecies cloned from TIFG’s hairpiece, to celebrate the TFIG brain fart caused by said parasite that created “The Space Force”.
Groot took second place in the voting, but they didn’t have a live Groot, just a barely alive but underwatered, potted Ficus.
patrick II
In a democracy the citizenry votes for representatives who write laws in their name. Unfortunately, many laws and legal communications are written in a purposely obscure and/or distorted manner putting distance between the people and the laws that bind them. If Ms. Willis’ clear writing was used as an example for other lawyers, this country would be a much better place.
smith
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: Even if it had been closer, there was a reason Nixon didn’t ask for a recount in Illinois: The downstate Republicans were known for playing the same kind of games the Cook County Dems did. But it did help establish the now-hallowed Republican tradition of blaming evil malefactors for their losses rather than their shitty candidates.
sab
@sab: Looking at it again I am not sure I agree with my first comment. I think cutting back on a color would make the contrast between the foreground and the background too stark.
dnfree
@raven: My father was convinced that the media was responsible for Watergate and Nixon’s resignation.
There was a t-shirt in I think 1984, like “Nixon, tanned, rested, and ready”.
Viva BrisVegas
@What Have The Romans Ever Done for Us?:
The remarkable thing about American Graffiti was that it was nostalgia for a past that existed only about 10 years before the film came out.
It’s hard to imagine anyone making a movie today that eulogizes the year 2012.
The film was deliberately set in 1962, the year before the assassination of JFK and well before US troop commitments to Vietnam. Before hippies and widespread drugs, basically the last year in which the only youth culture was rock and roll and cars.
What was remarkable about the film was how it showed that cultural change. The lead characters were heading off into a world completely different to the one that they had known, even the ones that stayed behind.
Ben Cisco
@patrick II:
Just told Mama Cisco they should use that letter in law schools.
Betsy
Trying to kill and disable your own old, angry voters. That’s got to be a new one electorally.
schrodingers_cat
@sab: Agreed about the background. I was trying a technique that is new to me. I think it has potential. The next attempt will be better.
BTW the last one I posted was monochromatic, did you see it?
David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch
@Viva BrisVegas: Another nugget that blew my mind: the film shows Wolfman Jack’s voice in real life was so different than the one he used on radio and tee vee.
karen marie
@Odie Hugh Manatee: Did you ask her how many times she’s has covid?
I’m going to guess it’s a number higher than nil, whether she’d admit it or not.
Rokka
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch:
I knew Caprice who gets a few seconds as the dance MC.
wjca
But perhaps not so difficult to imagine someone in 2018-19 being nostalgic for 2008-9.
Ben Cisco
@Betsy: “Bold strategy Cotton – let’s see if it works out for him!”
Betsy
@Alison Rose: Probably really fun to live with.
Hoppie
@dnfree: Do you remember “Don’t change Dicks in the middle of the screw, vote for Nixon in ’72”? Or “Behind every watergate there’s a mil(l)hous(e)”?
sab
@schrodingers_cat: I LOVE that!
The Kropenhagen Interpretation
@Betsy: When you have an electoral base that demands you put them at risk just for existing…
sab
@schrodingers_cat: On the other hand, the blue birds wouldn’t have been so contrasty without the green background.
Color is difficult. I am not good at it.
MagdaInBlack
@schrodingers_cat: oooh, I really like that one! I like the other one too, because I also like bright colors 😊
NotMax
@wjca
“Make America Groot Again.”
//
lowtechcyclist
@Hoppie:
I remember the first one, we even had a tune we sang it to.
strange visitor (from another planet)
@NotMax: sorry i didn’t make it to the meetup. mz visitor came back from a trip earlier than expected. next year.
Trivia Man
@Alison Rose: in case anyone here likes live music, the Relisten app has thousands of live shows for free. Essentially every known Dead show plus lots of other bands. It’s nice to look up shows I attended and hear them again. (Without having to track down a trade!)
lowtechcyclist
@wjca:
I’m nostalgic for 2019. The plague upended a lot of things in my life, and many have stayed that way.
Also, this was before it was obvious that TFG would try to overthrow the government to stay in power, so it was a more innocent time, in that sense. I figured we’d just beat him in 2020, and that would be that. Little did we know!
schrodingers_cat
@sab: I have a good innate color sense but I am not a trained artist so I experiment a lot and some of my experiments don’t quite work the way I intend them to. But I am enjoying the process too. So it is all good.
You know what I used to get the texture on the background. Good old Crayola markers that I got from Walmart when the pandemic first hit and we were all secluded in our own houses.
schrodingers_cat
@MagdaInBlack: Thanks!
schrodingers_cat
@Baud: I am flattered. Thanks!
wjca
@NotMax:
👏👏👏
schrodingers_cat
@wjca:
@Dorothy A. Winsor:
zhena gogolia:
Thanks so much I appreciate your comments.
schrodingers_cat
@sab: I do too. I wanted to use all the greys in my Prismacolor set and I did!
Mr. Bemused Senior
@schrodingers_cat: I don’t know art but I know what I like. This, I like. Including the green in the lower right.
@Baud Salieri!
Tony G
@lowtechcyclist:
@Viva BrisVegas:
Tony G
@Viva BrisVegas: That’s right. 1962 was still culturally the fifties (and 1972 was still culturally the sixties).
schrodingers_cat
@Mr. Bemused Senior: Thanks, my attempt at pointillism with Crayola markers.
pinksnapdragon
I think it’s lovely, but I’m a quilter and I love lots of colors in a piece.
TS
@tobie:
I am amazed to hear that there is such a thing in the US – having a gun is a dog given right – how can it be a felony?
Tony G
@UncleEbeneezer: Homo sapiens is a very stupid species, and the United States is a very stupid country. Case in point: Covid is still killing more than 500 Americans every day, but the assumption among most Americans is that the “pandemic is over”. Stupidity, ignorance and selfishness — the unspoken assumption being that the daily deaths represent people who don’t matter.
Tony G
@raven: Sorry to hear that. My dear old dad and I have spirited disagreements about the length of my hair and about the musical stylings of Jimi Hendrix — but we agreed in our hatred for Richard Nixon.
Tony G
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: That is exactly the experience of many of my family members (including my sons and their wives) who caught covid after being vaccinated. A minor inconvenience for a week or so, then back to normal. That’s a pretty simple concept to me, but apparently it’s like quantum mechanics for the Anti-vaxxers.
Tony G
@UncleEbeneezer: My wife is from Japan and I’ve visited there about a dozen times. Long before covid there was a culture there of many people wearing masks in crowded places during flu season. It’s almost as though they have common sense and care about others. What a weird culture from an American perspective!
Betsy
@smith: Wow! Thanks for providing that link to Fani Willis’ epic letter to Gym Jordan.
There’s much to admire in her smackdown, but I like especially the part on the last page where she directs his attention to Exhibits F – O. 😳
lowtechcyclist
@Tony G:
Dead thread, but no, it’s not. Covid killed about 2600 Americans in July*, according to Worldometer. That’s well under 100 per day. Cars are killing more Americans than Covid is.
*Given current reporting lags, numbers for late August are still incomplete. But so far, August looks about the same.
Miss Bianca
@HumboldtBlue: Dead thread, but Ken Buck is a puzzlement. On most issues he (and Doug Lamborn, who represents CO CD-5) is your bog-standard batshit reactionary Republican, but every once in a while they’ll both surprise you by supporting the actual law and talking like an almost sane person.
Paul in KY
@HumboldtBlue: Too bad you couldn’t have rotated your head all the way around and said ‘You should be!’. Boy, that would have been sweet!
Paul in KY
@Baud: That is something that would need to be investigated.
Paul in KY
@David 🌈 ☘The Establishment☘🌈 Koch: One of the funnier films I’ve ever seen. Back when I first saw it, my sides were hurting from laughing so much.