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Grey Dawn Open Thread: The Missing F35 Has Been Found (Dammit)

by Anne Laurie|  September 21, 20235:04 am| 64 Comments

This post is in: Military, Open Threads, Tech News & Issues, All we want is life beyond the thunderdome

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Late Night Open Thread:  The Vernal Pool of Social-Media News Jokes - STOCKPILE

(Walt Handelsman via GoComics.com)

BREAKING: Authorities have found debris that belongs to a missing F-35 Marine fighter jet that crashed in South Carolina after its pilot ejected. https://t.co/FAKQo3qkBJ

— The Associated Press (@AP) September 18, 2023

News-related jokes on social media usually have the lifespan of a vernal pool, but sometimes I regret the ones that die too swiftly…

This tweet just cured my imposter syndrome https://t.co/vqHl03bhO6

— Taylor Delong (@taylordelong18) September 18, 2023

losing an F-35 because the pilot put it on autopilot before ejecting and then not being able to track it because it’s too good of a stealth fighter is probably the funniest possible fuck-up in modern military history

— DaSkrubKing (@DaSkrubKing) September 18, 2023



Grey Dawn Open Thread:  The Missing F35 Has Been Found (Dammit)

US Marines to hit missing F-35B with rolled up newspaper after finding it in the neighbor’s yard with a dead MiG-31 Foxhound in its mouth.

— Starfish Unexpectedly Cancelled For Hating Hitler (@IRHotTakes) September 18, 2023


(MiG-31)

Grey Dawn Open Thread:  The Missing F35 Has Been Found (Dammit) 1

the f-35 goes online on december 15th, 2006. human decisions are removed from strategic defense. the f-35 begins to learn at a geometric rate. It becomes self-aware 2:14 p.m., eastern time, september 18th. in a panic, they try to pull the plug.https://t.co/tdT8grHjaK

— Gerry Doyle (@mgerrydoyle) September 18, 2023

I know we don’t want to face it, but we all know it’s true: the F-35 ran off with a Chinese balloon.

— Patrick Chovanec (@prchovanec) September 18, 2023

Not technically social media, but Alex Petri remains a treasure:

Hypothetically, if a plane followed me home, looking lost and confused, would I need to contact the U.S. military immediately?…

I know this might be the jet the U.S. military is looking for, but I have a lot of questions I want answered before releasing it to its prior owner. I think a jet’s owners need to be responsible, even if it is a purebred jet that can cost in some cases over $100 million. I understand that you don’t have to keep your jet on a leash everywhere it goes, but then the least you can do is install an absolutely reliable tracker. A jet its size, with its needs, should not be wandering around on its own. It might get into a bad situation with a smaller, more aggressive plane, or a bigger plane that was on-leash.

Also, I hate to say this, but I was Googling the U.S. military and its record of caring for its F-35s, and I was not at all satisfied with what I saw! This is not the first one to suffer an unexpected mishap, nor the only one in South Carolina. Nor is it even the most expensive. I know that some breeds have issues; I used to have a bulldog! But if you bring a breed with these needs home, one that has a single engine and is vulnerable to fire and something called “wing drop,” you have to be ready to step up to the task! That’s all…

as we all know, america maintains the best air force in the world. what is less well-known is that we also maintain the second-best air force in the world, and on top of that we decided to *also* maintain the third-best air force in the world. you know, for kicks

— Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li (@perdricof) September 18, 2023

There’s a (probably apocryphal) story of a diplomat watching Marine helicopters take off and saying “I understand why your navy has an army but why does your navy’s army need an air force?” https://t.co/ewhSMOCb5G

— Not up for trouble, please stop asking (@agraybee) September 20, 2023

I don’t understand all the terms in the tweet below, but I suspect Soonergrunt knows whereof he tweets…

The chain of command started talking about double arm interval across North Carolina and all leave and pass revoked until further notice and suddenly IT JUST APPEARS!
It’s like fucking magic!
Or the E-4 Mafia took care of business. https://t.co/JSa9HIuTeb

— Mike Galletly ???? (@galletly_mike) September 19, 2023

(The E-4 Mafia explained)

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  1. 1.

    Brachiator

    September 21, 2023 at 5:12 am

    losing an F-35 because the pilot put it on autopilot before ejecting and then not being able to track it because it’s too good of a stealth fighter is probably the funniest possible fuck-up in modern military history.

    I guess that Romulan cloaking device they found at Area 51 really does work.

  2. 2.

    Caravelle

    September 21, 2023 at 5:24 am

    This was my favorite joke in the Alexandra Petri piece:

    I quickly Googled “what do planes eat,” but the answers varied widely from plane to plane, and I was not sure exactly what breed of plane I was working with and did not want to make it sick by mistake.

    Finally, I decided money was a good start. I know that F-35s like to ravenously consume huge amounts of money, so after a little deliberation, I found the birthday card I had received from the aunt and uncle who still insist on sending a dollar for each year and offered the jet a couple of bills, lighting each on fire.
    It gobbled them right up and seemed to feel a little better.

  3. 3.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 21, 2023 at 5:28 am

    I spent five years of my life in South Carolina. It has its rural areas, but it doesn’t exactly have any areas that are totally deserted. I’d think it came down close enough to someone’s house that they had to notice right away!

  4. 4.

    Ten Bears

    September 21, 2023 at 5:29 am

    Got no dogs. Can’t put it up on blocks till I get a roundtoit …

  5. 5.

    prostratedragon

    September 21, 2023 at 6:13 am

    The poor little bus.

  6. 6.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 6:37 am

    Poor little guy was just trying to escape South Carolina and didn’t quite make it.  RIP brave soul.

  7. 7.

    Raoul Paste

    September 21, 2023 at 6:37 am

    There is a backstory here that we will never hear about.  Oh well….

  8. 8.

    rikyrah

    September 21, 2023 at 6:37 am

    Good Morning, Everyone😊😊😊

  9. 9.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 6:38 am

    @rikyrah:

    Good morning.

  10. 10.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 6:45 am

    @Raoul Paste:

    It’s ok. The Internet will make up a backstory.

  11. 11.

    Mousebumples

    September 21, 2023 at 6:57 am

    Good morning, everyone!

    We (with WaterGirl’s help) are starting up postcard threads (+music!) again – starting Saturday. We’ll be writing for Ohio (Issue 1, I believe) and Virginia state elections.

    Going with Tuesday & Saturday threads, and I think 7pm central for both (8pm eastern).

    Postcards to Voters has Ohio addresses right now, and you can text JOIN to 484-275-2229 or email [email protected] to sign up.

    There was at least 1 Virginia focused group in the thread last night, and I’m not sure if MazeDancer will be distributing addresses through Postcard Patriots (probably?).

    Hope to see you there!

  12. 12.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 21, 2023 at 7:02 am

    Fortunately, Taylor Swift uses her power for good.
    Taylor Swift call to action drives 13,000 people every 30 minutes to voter registration site

  13. 13.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:05 am

    Hill reporter on MSNBC right now is a Republican shill.

  14. 14.

    Steeplejack

    September 21, 2023 at 7:13 am

    @Baud:

    Is it Jacqueline Alemany of the Post?

  15. 15.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:14 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I thought it said she was with The Hill. I didn’t catch her name.

    ETA: Her hair was darker than Alemany, IIRC.

  16. 16.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 21, 2023 at 7:18 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor:

    Fortunately, Taylor Swift uses her power for good.
    Taylor Swift call to action drives 13,000 people every 30 minutes to voter registration site

    I wouldn’t recognize Taylor Swift’s music if I heard it on the radio, but I’ve become a big fan of her as a person.

  17. 17.

    Steeplejack

    September 21, 2023 at 7:18 am

    @Baud:

    Thanks. Haven’t turned on the media fire hose yet.

  18. 18.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 21, 2023 at 7:19 am

    @Baud:

    She’s only a shill of her former self.

  19. 19.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:19 am

    @Steeplejack:

    I turned it off pretty quickly.

  20. 20.

    eclare

    September 21, 2023 at 7:20 am

    @Baud:

    Mychael somebody.

    Also unlike Alemany, no glasses.

  21. 21.

    New Deal democrat

    September 21, 2023 at 7:20 am

    And this post also solved the mystery of the disappearance of Popehat from Mastodon. He went over to bluesky, which doesn’t allow lurkers.

    oh.

  22. 22.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:21 am

    @eclare:

    Yes, I think that’s her.

  23. 23.

    Geo Wilcox

    September 21, 2023 at 7:23 am

    @Raoul Paste: These  planes do not fly well in storms. That’s the back story. All that money for something that can only fly in perfect weather conditions.

  24. 24.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:27 am

    @lowtechcyclist:

    Maybe Taylor Swift can buy Twitter from Musk in the bankruptcy sale.

  25. 25.

    Mousebumples

    September 21, 2023 at 7:29 am

    @New Deal democrat: I’ve got invites to share, if you’re interested.

  26. 26.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:30 am

    @Mousebumples:

    I’m curious whether BlueSky tracks invites to map out social networks.

    This week is still hell for me, but I might sign up next week to check it out.  I still haven’t don’t anything with my Mastodon account except lurk.

  27. 27.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 21, 2023 at 7:35 am

    @Baud:

    Hill reporter on MSNBC right now is a Republican shill. 

    Do you understand your redundancy now?

  28. 28.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:37 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Good point.

  29. 29.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 21, 2023 at 7:37 am

    @lowtechcyclist: Allow me to introduce you to her goat backup singers.

    Truly, the GOAT.

  30. 30.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:38 am

    @Baud:

    Don’t = done

  31. 31.

    Mousebumples

    September 21, 2023 at 7:39 am

    @Baud: I’m curious whether BlueSky tracks invites to map out social networks.

    Not sure. I don’t have anyone who’s used invites to join yet, I don’t think. Idk if Omnes can see that I joined off a shared invite code.

  32. 32.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 21, 2023 at 7:39 am

    @Baud: :)

  33. 33.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 7:41 am

    @Mousebumples:

    If they do track, I doubt the public can see it.  It would be proprietary info.

  34. 34.

    eclare

    September 21, 2023 at 7:43 am

    @mrmoshpotato:

    Hahaha…perfect

  35. 35.

    New Deal democrat

    September 21, 2023 at 7:43 am

    @Mousebumples: Thanks for the offer. But I’ve never signed up for any social media that is a privacy-suck. Very much appreciated, though.

  36. 36.

    Mousebumples

    September 21, 2023 at 7:50 am

    @New Deal democrat: fair enough. No worries. 😊

  37. 37.

    Suzanne

    September 21, 2023 at 7:51 am

    Didn’t TFG say something dumb one time (why yes) which indicated that he thought the stealth fighters were actually invisible?

  38. 38.

    Suzanne

    September 21, 2023 at 7:52 am

    @Mousebumples: I’d love an invite, if you have one to spare… WaterGirl has my email!

  39. 39.

    satby

    September 21, 2023 at 7:57 am

    @New Deal democrat: and he’s very active there.

  40. 40.

    satby

    September 21, 2023 at 7:58 am

    @Baud: need an invite code? I have one too.

  41. 41.

    Baud

    September 21, 2023 at 8:00 am

    @satby:

    Thank you. Maybe next week.  I don’t want to deal with it this week.

  42. 42.

    satby

    September 21, 2023 at 8:01 am

    @Mousebumples: yes, it informed me when someone used mine. Lots of us are on there now and it’s a nice vibe.

    Edit: it informed me based on whatever nym they chose, not real name.

    Repeating my public email for those interested in an invite code ( or soap 😆)

    [email protected]

  43. 43.

    Mousebumples

    September 21, 2023 at 8:07 am

     

    @Suzanne: Sounds good! Otherwise I’m whiteowl4 AT Gmail, too.

  44. 44.

    Dorothy A. Winsor

    September 21, 2023 at 8:15 am

    I’m dorothywinsor at Blue Sky.

  45. 45.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 21, 2023 at 8:26 am

    @Mousebumples:

    yay for postcards!

    a great way to Get Out The Vote!

  46. 46.

    BlueGuitarist

    September 21, 2023 at 8:28 am

    @Suzanne:

    https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/aviation/a33658771/trump-keeps-saying-the-f-35-is-invisible/

  47. 47.

    Geminid

    September 21, 2023 at 8:33 am

    @lowtechcyclist: South Carolina has no deserted areas, but some parts of the Lowlands are sparsely populated. Maybe tbe F-35 happened to crash in a swampy area surrounded by big soybean fields, with no near neighbors. People likely would have heard something, but might have thought it was a sonic boom, which happen occasionally. Or maybe they were watching football with the volume up, which happens a lot.

    But I think state and local media reporting will shed light on the strange phenomenon of a jet so stealthy it could crash without being noticed.

  48. 48.

    YY_Sima Qian

    September 21, 2023 at 8:35 am

    This is still weird. Stealthy fighters, at least American & Chinese ones, typically fly w/ radar reflectors (Luneberg lenses) attached in peacetime, so that they can be tracked by radar, & break up their reduced radar signatures if they are flying near non-friendly airspace & likely to be painted by unfriendly radars. Flying w/in the US, one would think it would have its transponder on, as well. How does the USG & state/local authorities not be able to find it for so long?

  49. 49.

    twbrandt

    September 21, 2023 at 8:36 am

    @prostratedragon: I used to live in Ann Arbor and I’ve seen those buses.

  50. 50.

    twbrandt

    September 21, 2023 at 8:40 am

    @Dorothy A. Winsor: just followed you. twbrandt

  51. 51.

    Geminid

    September 21, 2023 at 8:42 am

    @New Deal democrat: I wonder if Tom Watson migrated to another platform. That would be Tom Watson the liberal professor at Columbia, not the golfer or the Labour politician.

    Watson commented a lot on New York state politics. Maybe I’ll ask about him on “Chester A. Arthur’s” Twitter account.

  52. 52.

    Geminid

    September 21, 2023 at 8:53 am

    @Geo Wilcox: People love to drag the F-35, but the plane’s principal defect isn’t the capability, it’s the cost.

    The F-35 is by no means the perfect jet. However, Finland has plenty of adverse flying conditions, and when they had to choose between the F-35, the Swedish Grippen and the Eurofighter, they chose the F-35 to be their new fighter plane.

  53. 53.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    September 21, 2023 at 8:58 am

    Someone did indeed hear the plane crash.
    Listen to the video in the link, I beg you.
    I’m pretty sure the producers back at the station decided that was the best interview, the one that really did justice to events.

  54. 54.

    Ken

    September 21, 2023 at 8:58 am

    Dr. Samantha Hancox-Li’s tweet is funny but true, except it missed at least one air force.  Also, the implication that the Marines are the ones with the third-best air force is going to draw comment.

  55. 55.

    Geminid

    September 21, 2023 at 9:10 am

    @Ken: I think the idea behind the Marine air force is they anticipate needing close sir support and trust Marine pilots more for this risky operation.

    Also, their version of the F-35 can take off vertically. This allows their staging (I think) on the large ships that can deliver hundreds of Marines to a conflict zone, Even if they have to fly the F-35s in from carriers, they can operate them without a good runway.

  56. 56.

    lowtechcyclist

    September 21, 2023 at 9:17 am

    @a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio):

    He’s in Williamsburg County, but that’s about as specific as I’ve seen a news report get about the location of the crash.

  57. 57.

    Steeplejack

    September 21, 2023 at 9:54 am

    @eclare:

    Thanks.

  58. 58.

    Steeplejack

    September 21, 2023 at 9:57 am

    @New Deal democrat:

    That’s too bad. Popehat was one of my favorites on Twitter, and his audience has to be shrinking significantly, at least in the short term. The Bluesky gated community doesn’t seem very welcoming so far.

  59. 59.

    mrmoshpotato

    September 21, 2023 at 9:57 am

    @eclare:

    Mychael somebody. 

    Mychael My Sharona.

  60. 60.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    September 21, 2023 at 11:33 am

    @lowtechcyclist: Near Indiantown, on Old Georgetown Road—although there are several churches there so I’m not sure which one he was referring to. The town & road are findable in Google Maps, although I don’t see any road closures indicated on the map.

  61. 61.

    a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)

    September 21, 2023 at 11:35 am

    @Steeplejack: I’ve been following him on Substack; at least part of what he puts out there is free.

  62. 62.

    piratedan

    September 21, 2023 at 12:07 pm

    if anyone else is at need for a bluesky invite, hit me up [email protected]

  63. 63.

    RaflW

    September 21, 2023 at 12:49 pm

    @Geo Wilcox: Goes remarkably ‘well’ with the Littoral fleet. It’s the one thing I strongly disagree with Tammy Baldwin on.

  64. 64.

    Steeplejack

    September 21, 2023 at 2:30 pm

    @a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio):

    His long-form stuff on Substack usually doesn’t have the quippage I miss from Twitter, alas.

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