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You are here: Home / Economics / C.R.E.A.M. / Monday Night Open Thread: Proud to Be A Democrat, And Also Snarky

Monday Night Open Thread: Proud to Be A Democrat, And Also Snarky

by Anne Laurie|  December 4, 20236:43 pm| 78 Comments

This post is in: C.R.E.A.M., Grifters Gonna Grift, Proud to Be A Democrat, Republican Venality, #notintendedtobeafactualstatement

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I thought my ethically-challenged colleague @BobMenendezNJ could use some encouragement given his substantial legal problems.

So, I approached a seasoned expert on the matter to give ‘Bobby from Jersey’ some advice. pic.twitter.com/y8iX55EyNi

— John Fetterman (@JohnFetterman) December 4, 2023

It’s gloriously real, per Business Insider:

Former Rep. George Santos finally made history last week when he was expelled from Congress. Now he’s made history again, as the first former congressperson to be used by Sen. John Fetterman of Pennsylvania to troll Sen. Bob Menendez of New Jersey via Cameo.

“I thought my ethically-challenged colleague @BobMenendezNJ could use some encouragement given his substantial legal problems,” Fetterman wrote on X. “So, I approached a seasoned expert on the matter to give ‘Bobby from Jersey’ some advice.”

An attached video shows Santos giving advice to “Bobby from Jersey” about how to stay strong…

A Fetterman spokesman told Business Insider that Santos posted the Cameo just 16 minutes after it was requested. The spokesman said that with taxes, fees, and an extra charge to deliver it within 24 hours, the Cameo cost Fetterman $343.20.

“We did not expect to get it back so fast,” the spokesman said.

Menendez has been accused by federal prosecutors of taking bribes, including over $480,000 in cash, in exchange for secretly aiding the Egyption government.

Menendez has denied the allegations…

I was aware that Philly and Jersey pols did not always play nice with each other, but this is top-tier snark.

bought a cameo from george santos but now my credit card has charges from hermes, sephora, and onlyfans??? https://t.co/HtGlTMQHX6

— derek guy (@dieworkwear) December 4, 2023

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  1. 1.

    Baud

    December 4, 2023 at 6:46 pm

    Credit where it’s due. That’s amazing.

    Also, maybe the first honest buck George Santos has ever made.

  2. 2.

    Wapiti

    December 4, 2023 at 6:52 pm

    I generally like Fetterman, but… I wouldn’t give Santos a buck.

  3. 3.

    Suzanne

    December 4, 2023 at 6:53 pm

    I was aware that Philly and Jersey pols did not always play nice with each other, but this is top-tier snark.

    Fetterman lives in western PA, just outside Pittsburgh. Not Philly.

  4. 4.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 6:55 pm

    That doesn’t look like Santos to me.  Isn’t his hair darker and his face fatter?

  5. 5.

    Baud

    December 4, 2023 at 6:57 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    That was his disguise.

  6. 6.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 7:00 pm

    @Baud: Seriously, though, don’t you agree?

    Is this maybe Fetterman punking everyone with a fake guy pretending to be Santos?

  7. 7.

    Raoul Paste

    December 4, 2023 at 7:02 pm

    This doesn’t sound like a depressed Fetterman to me.   Glad he’s having fun

  8. 8.

    trollhattan

    December 4, 2023 at 7:02 pm

    Fetterman got game.

  9. 9.

    Baud

    December 4, 2023 at 7:02 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    I wouldn’t have recognized him.

  10. 10.

    rikyrah

    December 4, 2023 at 7:03 pm

     

    I 🥹🥹🥹 Everytime I watch this

    https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZT85j98aF/

  11. 11.

    cain

    December 4, 2023 at 7:03 pm

    Egyption? Is this like how the Bangles say it in “Walk like an Egyptian”? :-)

  12. 12.

    smith

    December 4, 2023 at 7:03 pm

    @WaterGirl: If it were a fake, the fake guy would look more like Santos — he would have the trademark glasses at least

    ETA: I’m wondering if Santos is trying to look different because he’s embarrassed to be doing this kind of job after being a Congressman? On the other hand, it’s not very  plausible that Santos could be embarrassed.

  13. 13.

    Jess

    December 4, 2023 at 7:05 pm

    @Wapiti: Yeah, but money well spent in this case… ;-)

  14. 14.

    TaMara

    December 4, 2023 at 7:06 pm

    @WaterGirl: There are some amazing filters out there and I’m sure he’s well versed in all of them.

  15. 15.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 7:23 pm

    @TaMara: Hmmm.

  16. 16.

    Suzanne

    December 4, 2023 at 7:27 pm

    Does anyone else occasionally sneeze so hard that it makes you utterly exhausted? Shit. Now I need to lie down.

  17. 17.

    CliosFanBoy

    December 4, 2023 at 7:29 pm

    The press is STILL missing the big picture. WHO did Santos subscribe to on OnlyFans????????

  18. 18.

    wjca

    December 4, 2023 at 7:43 pm

    @Baud: Credit where it’s due. That’s amazing.

    Also, maybe the first honest buck George Santos has ever made.

    Are you sure it wasn’t made by an AI?  With Santos just pocketing the dough while never doing the work.

  19. 19.

    FelonyGovt

    December 4, 2023 at 8:00 pm

    Kind of annoying, though not at all surprising, that Santos has a way to immediately capitalize on his notoriety. We live in interesting times.

  20. 20.

    Martin

    December 4, 2023 at 8:01 pm

    @Suzanne: All the time. I’ve blacked out from sneezing so hard.

  21. 21.

    Nukular Biskits

    December 4, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    Completely OT but gotta recommend this place for anyone in San Diego:

    Pizza Bella Italian Bistro

    A little pricey but the tortellini is to die for … and I almost did by eating waaaaaaaaaay too much.  Still left nearly half on the plate because I simply had no room for the rest.

    Stick a fork in me … I’m done for the evening.

  22. 22.

    Martin

    December 4, 2023 at 8:02 pm

    @wjca: AI isn’t that good yet. Give it a few more years.

  23. 23.

    Alison Rose

    December 4, 2023 at 8:07 pm

    @Suzanne: Starting from birth and through my teens, I had absolutely horrendous, constant allergies. 24/7, 365, indoor/outdoor. The medications available back then mostly sucked, and I spent most days sneezing literally all damn day, and yes, it is completely exhausting, to a degree that people without allergies don’t understand. Most days, it was like the absolute worst day with a bad cold x100, but I didn’t get to stay home because I wasn’t technically “sick”. Immunotherapy saved my sanity eventually.

  24. 24.

    JaySinWA

    December 4, 2023 at 8:13 pm

    @WaterGirl: That doesn’t look like Santos to me.

    It would be appropriate if someone was pretending to be Santos was working the Cameo site.

  25. 25.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 8:14 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: Even their cheese pizza looks good!  I would go there in a heartbeat.

    Tell me they have homemade gnocchi and I might move there.

  26. 26.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 8:15 pm

    @JaySinWA: That would be perfect!  I still think it doesn’t look like Santos.

  27. 27.

    JaySinWA

    December 4, 2023 at 8:17 pm

    @WaterGirl: I don’t think it looks quite like him either.

    ETA where is Bellingcat when you need them?

  28. 28.

    Delk

    December 4, 2023 at 8:28 pm

    @WaterGirl: Joe.My.God. had a post with a different video this morning.

  29. 29.

    zhena gogolia

    December 4, 2023 at 8:29 pm

    Oh, that’s definitely him.

  30. 30.

    Alison Rose

    December 4, 2023 at 8:35 pm

    I was trying to do something that was a bit of a hassle and I was getting a little grumbly about it, and I muttered out loud about my frustration. But what I said was “Why is this such a bitch in the ass” because I guess my brain got a little confused about whether it wanted to say “a bitch” or “a pain in the ass”. And then I laughed which was nicer than being annoyed.

  31. 31.

    Nukular Biskits

    December 4, 2023 at 8:50 pm

    @WaterGirl:

    It’s only the second time I’ve eaten there and I’ve been coming to San Diego for work for probably +30 years now.

    First time I ate there was about a month ago.  I was tired of Mexican (which I absolutely love but a man does have his limits).

  32. 32.

    LiminalOwl

    December 4, 2023 at 8:55 pm

    @Suzanne: I had a friend in the Bay Area who missed the Loma Prieta earthquake because she was sneezing.

  33. 33.

    mrmoshpotato

    December 4, 2023 at 8:57 pm

    I don’t know what Georgey’s shit**** mug actually looks like, but he can go fuck himself into the Sun, and good on Senator Fetterman.

  34. 34.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 8:58 pm

    @Nukular Biskits: Sounds like you need to make up for lost time.

  35. 35.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 9:01 pm

    @Delk: I went to his site just now but I didn’t see anything like that and didn’t know where exactly to look.

    What was the other video?  I can’t quite tell what you are suggesting with your comment?

  36. 36.

    Alison Rose

    December 4, 2023 at 9:03 pm

    @WaterGirl: I think it’s this post.

  37. 37.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    December 4, 2023 at 9:05 pm

    Rachel Maddow introducing Liz Cheney be replaying the videos of her quest to interview Liz Cheney 13 and 10 years ago. I’ve been wondering if she’d replay the clip where she ended her public request for an interview with, “I promise, I do not bite”. I think that was specifically about Liz throwing her sister Mary under the bus during her failed Senate (primary) campaign

  38. 38.

    Delk

    December 4, 2023 at 9:07 pm

    @Alison Rose: that’s the one. Thanks for posting the link. I got called away when I was posting.

  39. 39.

    RevRick

    December 4, 2023 at 9:11 pm

    @Suzanne: Right, Pittsburgh doesn’t even play nice with Philly, nor vice versa.

  40. 40.

    Scout211

    December 4, 2023 at 9:13 pm

    Deleted

  41. 41.

    Suzanne

    December 4, 2023 at 9:19 pm

    @Alison Rose: I have a whole array of allergies, but I don’t react strongly to any one allergen. So I went and got allergy tested when I lived in AZ, and they tested the 50 most common allergens on my arm. I reacted to 40. And it was all the common ones….. summer and winter grass, dogs and cats, like, half of the plants in my yard. And I had enough reaction to carry a high histamine load all year. Awesome. I had some success with immunotherapy. But living in PA has been even better than immunotherapy. It gets cold enough that I just don’t seem to have any problems in the winter.

    But the kids both have low-grade crud and they have shared.

  42. 42.

    Suzanne

    December 4, 2023 at 9:21 pm

    @LiminalOwl: I swear to the FSM, my sinuses are so fucked up, I can totally relate to your friend. LOL.

  43. 43.

    wjca

    December 4, 2023 at 9:29 pm

    @Martin: AI isn’t that good yet. Give it a few more years.

    But when simulating Santos, as opposed to most people, “artificial” is probably sufficient.  “Intelligent”, in his case, is only aspirational anyway.

  44. 44.

    hilts

    December 4, 2023 at 9:33 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist:

    Rachel Maddow introducing Liz Cheney

    Rachel’s introduction took up nearly 30 minutes of her 1 hour show.  She could have trimmed it by 20 minutes and left more time for the actual interview.

  45. 45.

    Hoppie

    December 4, 2023 at 9:37 pm

    @Suzanne: I had a friend went to medical school many decades ago.  After a lecture on the anatomy of sinuses, a student asked “yes, but what are sinuses for?”

    The prof said: “Sinuses are God’s punishment of mankind.”

  46. 46.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 9:38 pm

    @Alison Rose: Thank you!  I guess it really is him.  His mom must be so proud.

  47. 47.

    wjca

    December 4, 2023 at 9:40 pm

    @Suzanne: they tested the 50 most common allergens on my arm. I reacted to 40. And it was all the common ones….. summer and winter grass, dogs and cats, like, half of the plants in my yard.

    My usual explanation to people is “I’m allergic to pertty much anything in the air except oxygen and nitrogen.” Seems to cover the situation pretty well.  Except for the detail that walking barefoot across a lawn will get a huge red histamine skin reaction.  (Somehow “a roll in the hay” never sounded attractive as a concept.  I’ll stick with beds, thank you very much!)

  48. 48.

    JaySinWA

    December 4, 2023 at 9:49 pm

    @WaterGirl: His face looks a lot thinner than what I recall even recently. Either the House cameras add a lot of pounds, he lost a lot of weight recently or he is using a slimming filter for Cameo

    ETA it isn’t just House cameras. The interviews I have seen seemed to have a rounder face. He looked quite heavy, although in one interview it looked like he had a bullet proof vest on under his sweater.

  49. 49.

    WaterGirl

    December 4, 2023 at 9:58 pm

    @JaySinWA: Wow. Bullet proof vest.  There are slimming filters?  Who knew?

  50. 50.

    JaySinWA

    December 4, 2023 at 10:09 pm

    @WaterGirl: Apparently

    @TaMara: knew. I missed her comment earlier. I didn’t remember until I checked. Here’s an article about some https://www.perfectcorp.com/consumer/blog/selfie-editing/best-face-slimming-app

    (in case some people here need some help in the next Zoom meeting)

    I don’t know for sure about the vest, just that I saw suspicious bulges in one interview.

  51. 51.

    Suzanne

    December 4, 2023 at 10:14 pm

    @Hoppie: I had a brain MRI once, because I had had a couple of seizures and they needed to look for a cause. I hadn’t been feeling well when I went it….yet another sinus infection. I went in to get the results of the MRI, and the first thing the neurologist said was, “You had a terrible sinus infection! Are you okay now?”…. and I was like, “Whaaaa?” On the images from the MRI, one sinus was completely blocked and showed up on the MRI as solid white, completely filled with snot.

    No brain tumor, though, so that part was good.

  52. 52.

    Sure Lurkalot

    December 4, 2023 at 10:31 pm

    Liz Cheney AGAIN with the poor misled patriots who support Trump. Assumes facts not in evidence, Liz.

    She thought Mike Johnson an honorable man right up until he got seduced by Trump to help him thwart the peaceful transfer of power.

    Seems like Republican men have no fucking agency at all AND Liz is a very shitty judge of character, same as it ever was.

  53. 53.

    Steeplejack

    December 4, 2023 at 10:41 pm

    Incident in the hood: “Virginia police investigate explosion at house where officers were trying to serve a search warrant.”

    ARLINGTON, Va. (AP) — Police in a Virginia suburb of the nation’s capital are investigating a massive explosion at a house where officers were trying to serve a search warrant Monday.

    The Arlington County Police Department said in a statement that the suspect fired several shots inside the home and that an explosion happened. Firefighters were working to extinguish the fire.

    The police had earlier said that they were investigating after someone fired a flare gun from the house.

    Don’t know the exact location, but this is about a mile or so from Threadkill Lane.

  54. 54.

    prostratedragon

    December 4, 2023 at 10:45 pm

    Santos’s appearance has always struck me as a moving target.

  55. 55.

    JaySinWA

    December 4, 2023 at 11:00 pm

    Appearances aside, I don’t really get the snark here. The statement itself isn’t particularly snarky, although the source is. I suppose Fetterman is trying to paint Menedez as modeling Santos behavior, but Menendez has his own history of escaping legal and political trouble.

    It did get Fetterman some cheap airtime, so maybe well spent?

  56. 56.

    NotMax

    December 4, 2023 at 11:03 pm

    Completed a relatively simple improvement which involved crawling on all fours underneath the desk with an electric lantern and a power drill..

    If knees could talk mine would be loudly cursing a blue streak. Confident the cornucopia of lingering ouchies should pass in a couple of hours.

  57. 57.

    Hoppie

    December 4, 2023 at 11:04 pm

    @Steeplejack: Meth or wingnut armament collection?  Inquiring minds….

  58. 58.

    Timill

    December 4, 2023 at 11:07 pm

    @Hoppie: Just some stupid with a flare gun…

  59. 59.

    Steeplejack

    December 4, 2023 at 11:13 pm

    @Hoppie:

    C’mon, man. Islamic terrorism, no doubt!

    In a Twitter video that someone sent me I saw a sign for Burlington Street, which is a couple of miles north of what I consider Bluemont. But Arlington has a number of streets with two unconnected parts.

    I might do a McDonald’s run early tomorrow morning and see if I can see what’s what.

  60. 60.

    Hoppie

    December 4, 2023 at 11:20 pm

    @Steeplejack: Back in the day, I lived on Corcoran St., just off DuPont Circle.   But my DC adjacency is long gone, alas.

  61. 61.

    Steeplejack

    December 4, 2023 at 11:28 pm

    @Hoppie:

    I live in the Seven Corners area of Falls Church, and my hunter-gatherer rounds take me down Wilson Boulevard through Bluemont to Ballston and Clarendon. Right past Bluemont Park, which is the starting point for my (too infrequent!) walking expeditions.

  62. 62.

    Scamp Dog

    December 4, 2023 at 11:32 pm

    @Timill: I see what you did there!

  63. 63.

    Martin

    December 5, 2023 at 12:08 am

    @hilts: The interview time is negotiated. Odds are she had a contractual 30 minute interview and needed to space fill, and wanted to keep the whole show on her.

  64. 64.

    Rebel's Dad

    December 5, 2023 at 12:08 am

    @Suzanne: I hold my sneezes in because every time I sneeze, my back cracks and it’s really painful. Like, disorienting painful.

  65. 65.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 5, 2023 at 12:52 am

    @rikyrah: ​ 

    God damn it

  66. 66.

    Jackie

    December 5, 2023 at 1:01 am

    @HumboldtBlue: Ditto 😭

    My daughter and I have shared our “special song” back and forth ever since she was 5.

  67. 67.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 5, 2023 at 1:19 am

    @NotMax: ​ 

    Completed a relatively simple improvement which involved crawling on all fours underneath the desk with an electric lantern and a power drill.

    May I now introduce you to the proper Balloon-Juice-dot-com after dark after party!

    Max brought the juice and you lot, well, you, brought yourselves, so party like tomorrow isn’t Tuesday!!

  68. 68.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2023 at 2:04 am

    @HumboldtBlue

    Party like it’s $19.99!
    :)

    Absent any aspirin or other analgesics, discomfiture now about 60% and dropping. Managed to hobble (read: old man shuffle) down the sloping driveway — and back up again — to the mailbox on the street an hour ago (no mail).

  69. 69.

    Steeplejack

    December 5, 2023 at 2:19 am

    @NotMax:

    What desk improvement was effected?

  70. 70.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2023 at 2:47 am

    @Steeplejack

    Nothing that couldn’t have been accomplished in one tenth the time were I 30 years younger.

    Securely screwing flat U-hooks into the desk structure in order to move the large power strip off the floor where it previously collected gobs of dust and cobwebs, using the hooks to suspend it horizontally out of direct sight. Less prone to surface dirt and muck and easier to clean with a soft brush when it does get dusty.

  71. 71.

    HumboldtBlue

    December 5, 2023 at 2:51 am

    @NotMax: ​ 

    Let there be light.

  72. 72.

    NotMax

    December 5, 2023 at 3:04 am

    @HumboldtBlue

    Speaking of light, a decade later remain in awe of this macabre tango demonstration. Can barely imagine what subsequent technological improvements allow for.

  73. 73.

    TBone

    December 5, 2023 at 7:14 am

    @JaySinWA: Senator Fetterman defeated Mehmet Oz who was pretending to be from Jersey.  Also, he confronted Menendez in an elevator in the Capitol a while back and has been attached to his ankle like a snarling terrier to GTFO voluntarily (resign).  Gawd I adore Fetterman’s style, he is an example of a Dem on offense that we sorely need.

  74. 74.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2023 at 8:41 am

    @JaySinWA: I had seen that TaMara mentioned filters, but I had never heard of slimming filters, so it never occurred to me that that existed.

  75. 75.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2023 at 8:44 am

    @Steeplejack: Pretty sure that the difference between “stupid” and “terrorism” is, in practice, based on the ethnicity of the person and the color of their skin.

  76. 76.

    Lacuna Synecdoche

    December 5, 2023 at 9:44 am

    @WaterGirl:

    That doesn’t look like Santos to me. Isn’t his hair darker and his face fatter?

    I don’t think it’s necessarily a filter, or at least not a particularly sophisticated filter. Check it out again, paying special attention to his cheeks – it looks just slightly distorted. I think he recorded it at a vertical 16×10 ratio, transcoded to 16×9, and mailed it out.

    Or maybe that’s all that a slimming filter does.

  77. 77.

    Paul in KY

    December 5, 2023 at 10:08 am

    @Timill: burned the place to the ground….

  78. 78.

    WaterGirl

    December 5, 2023 at 10:47 am

    @Lacuna Synecdoche: interesting!

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