Womp! Womp! pic.twitter.com/UvTWYPrGDr
— John Leguizamo (@JohnLeguizamo) April 14, 2024
Putin Ally Declares Mike Johnson 'Our Johnson' https://t.co/qteYETbbzz
— Marvin Sapp InTheSkreets/Marvin Gaye InTheSheets (@groove_sdc) April 16, 2024
It’s not the first time they’ve heard people laughing at their johnson.
— Dan Przygoda (@dprzygoda) April 16, 2024
Wow these people really are despicable and frankly stupid. https://t.co/QcYoHrqrDI
— Armando (@ArmandoNDK) April 13, 2024
We needed an instant replay, but, yes Mike Johnson did point at Donald Trump when talking about "hardened criminals." pic.twitter.com/YjNiOUDdAA
— American Bridge 21st Century (@American_Bridge) April 12, 2024
Speaker Johnson hitching himself to Trump at this press conference https://t.co/i4gPFBbkGp
— Jared Moskowitz (@JaredEMoskowitz) April 12, 2024
THREAD:
Today, House Speaker Mike Johnson is joining Trump at Mar-a-Lago. Here’s what we think you should know: pic.twitter.com/XeQukA3pGq— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) April 12, 2024
Trump truly is an authoritarian style leader and that should terrify every American voter. The idea that this press conference is about “election integrity” is a sick joke. Trump is still forcing the delusional and dangerous idea that he won the election.
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) April 12, 2024
For Johnson, this may be one last stop on a short-lived, pathetic farewell tour to his political ambitions. The only question is, who will be the next sucker to bow down to Dear Leader Trump.
— The Lincoln Project (@ProjectLincoln) April 12, 2024
Moscow Mike has spent six months emboldening China, Iran and Russia by refusing to bring the senate's bill for aid to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine to the floor. https://t.co/iBg3RsrU9D
— Ragnarok Lobster ?? (@eclecticbrotha) April 14, 2024
"I will continue to conduct pantomime negotiations and lob badass tweets while continuing my six month long refusal to bring the senate bill for aid to Israel, Taiwan and Ukraine to the House floor for a vote" https://t.co/PIS8tyiRjB
— Ragnarok Lobster ?? (@eclecticbrotha) April 14, 2024
Baud
This feels like forever ago.
Villago Delenda Est
Putin picks up another lickspittle. The entire GQp needs to be tossed into the dustbin of history.
J. Arthur Crank
Christ, what an asshole!
Also too: That Clay Jones cartoon…
3Sice
Do Nothing Congress
Baud
@3Sice:
Do Nothing House.
The Dems have to deal with the filibuster in the Senate and still manage to get more done.
Brachiator
Johnson is such a hypocritical little dick.
Steeplejack
What is happening with that signature drive to force the Ukraine bill to a House floor vote?! Even that appears to be stuck in limbo.
Suzanne
TFG had “my Kevin”, and now the Russians have “our Johnson”.
Man, these GOP Speakers just seem to end up under someone else’s ownership. Betas.
Baud
@Steeplejack:
When we talked about it here late last week, there were a few new Dem signers. Still about 15 holdouts in our side. Not sure if there’s been any movement on the GOP side.
TBone
Reposting from below
https://susiemadrak.com/2024/04/16/magic-8-ball-says-odd-are-high/
On topic
schrodingers_cat
@Steeplejack: Last I heard 20 Ds had to yet sign it. Baud probably has the latest number.
rikyrah
Catherine Rampell (@crampell) posted at 6:50 AM on Tue, Apr 16, 2024:
Trump is reportedly plotting to deliberately devalue the U.S. dollar.
If successful, this would raise costs for American consumers, and potentially tank the global economy.
Remind me again why voters think Trump would be better on inflation & the economy?
https://t.co/DoLzEbrHyj
(https://x.com/crampell/status/1780202069011333524?t=YtVewI_qqWf41zODSwtGhQ&s=03)
Omnes Omnibus
In important news, this song was number 1 in the UK on this day in 1969.
gratuitous
I see the Minority Leader is indulging some bad faith tough talk about what the Biden administration needs to do. Let’s see if anyone asks Moscow Mitch how he intends to pay for the actions he demands to match President Biden’s words. (Nobody will ask McConnell.)
rikyrah
Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) posted at 7:18 AM on Tue, Apr 16, 2024:
Every once in a while, a reasonable conservative commentator will say it’s crazy major news orgs have no one on staff to earnestly represent MAGA conservatism.
It sounds like a reasonable critique. MAGA is ~25-40% of America! How can you cover a country without somebody to represent this cohort?
But this is the problem.
Yes, MSM journalists get stuff wrong all the time and let their biases pull them in bad directions. But MAGA conservatism is a movement *entirely* dedicated to faithfully defending somebody who is biologically incapable of getting through a paragraph without lying. You can’t build a reasonably objective news organization like “… this is our econ team, this is our science desk, and these folks we pay to scream about how the sky is green if Trump decides for whatever reason to lie about sky color on a Tuesday.”
(https://x.com/DKThomp/status/1780209036828234200?t=5clt4IWSe4hv8BgzRUkAbQ&s=03)
Scout211
The MTG caucus is restless and may be making their move to oust Johnson.
rikyrah
Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) posted at 7:08 AM on Tue, Apr 16, 2024:
It’s “interesting” to watch the right-wing outrage sausage get made.
1. Judge: Trump can attend son’s graduation if trial is on track, but no official ruling yet.
2. Trump (lying): Judge told me I’m “prohibited” from attending my son’s graduation, what an outrage.
3. People… https://t.co/EzoSE9nYLO
(https://x.com/DKThomp/status/1780206728279113919?t=8Nl0weMlRwcQJT505wfeUA&s=03)
rikyrah
Jemele Hill (@jemelehill) posted at 1:55 PM on Mon, Apr 15, 2024:
Now had this been Biden, it would have been the lead story on every newscast and Fox News would have talked about this for weeks.
I do believe the ages of both presidential candidates and what impact that has on the presidency is relevant. But only Biden’s age is repeatedly discussed as a talking point even though Trump is 77.
Meanwhile, Trump frequently gets names wrong, speaks incoherently (more than normal), and has bad memory lapses. But the media continues to normalize his behavior and constantly grades him on a curve … justifying it under the framing that it’s fine because he’s expected to be an idiot.
(https://x.com/jemelehill/status/1779946571414884396?t=rC1fHxacEJywaOP2W1Uigw&s=03)
lowtechcyclist
From the Newsweek link:
Russia is his Deep State as well as yours; why are you complaining, EmptyHead?
And if Dump wins in November, Russia will be the U.S.A.’s ‘Deep State,’ not just Mike Johnson’s or the GOP’s.
Baud
@Scout211:
Good. Hopefully, it incentivizes Johnson to cut a deal with Jefferies. At this point, having a Speaker is useless.
Jeffro
they need to hurry. the fuck. UP and get that aid to Ukraine like, yesterday.
draw a line, Dems. Ukraine aid must pass first, and it must be in the many tens of billions of dollars, before anything else moves. Or else
Putin’s other puppetSpeaker Johnson gets the hook.cain
@schrodingers_cat:
Then it looks like we need to get our Dem voters to apply some pressure. I know that likely 3 or 2 will never budge (eg Ilmar and Rashida) – I think the other two of the squad are persuadable. (I assume that Israel and Taiwan funding will be including as an omnibus (omnious?) bill?
Let’s hope that we get everyone on there. Ukraine is just as important as Israel/Palestine. I think Palestinian don’t have as much time as they are starving to death but reports are that aid is getting through.
TBone
@lowtechcyclist: Ruzzia is that right now
cain
@Scout211: lol – I expect more Republicans to leave at this point. If they pull that shit again and they are running around trying to get votes again and embarrassing themselves again. I hope it depresses turn out – especially with Trump criminal trial running in the background.
At some point, support has got to collapse given the multiple embarrassing shitshows.
cain
@rikyrah: The other key thing is that they aren’t talking to anybody who would criticize Trump other than MSNBC. Nobody is interviewing Dem voters – unless they have some snit with Biden they aren’t being covered. Lazy fucks.
lowtechcyclist
@TBone:
OK then, we’re doomed no matter who wins.
Seriously, WTF?!
Baud
@schrodingers_cat:
Why you do me like that?
No need signers since Golden last week.
https://clerk.house.gov/DischargePetition/2024031209?CongressNum=118
cain
@lowtechcyclist:
Russia has been deep stating since 2016. Look how hard it is to get this Ukraine funding bill through – even during the Bush era the GOP would have fully been behind saving Ukraine. They love that shit.
Now ? They’ll turn on Israel as well eventually.
lowtechcyclist
@Scout211:
Then it’s time for the Dems to do what we should have done with Qevin: offer to save his sorry ass just this once in return for putting a Ukraine funding bill on the floor.
At least with Qevin, we weren’t dealing with a fucking religious zealot.
lowtechcyclist
@cain: That the GOP controls one house of Congress, and does Russia’s bidding, is a triviality compared with what Russia’s role as Deep State would be like if Dump gets back in office.
This is like Deep State * .05.
Frankensteinbeck
@lowtechcyclist:
No, but we were dealing with the most dishonest, bad faith negotiator in the Republican Party, and that is an incredibly high bar to clear. McCarthy managed it. I’m sure Jeffries knows if Johnson can be negotiated with, but McCarthy forgot every promise before he got what he wanted.
Baud
@Frankensteinbeck:
Maybe Jefferies will let Johnson watch some porn on his phone in exchange for a vote on Ukraine.
Snarki, child of Loki
@Villago Delenda Est: “The entire GQp needs to be tossed into the
dustbinburning dumpster of history.”FIFY
Joe Falco
It’s not about the size of your Johnson that’s important. It’s about their performance, and…uhm… that’s also not looking good.
TBone
@lowtechcyclist: what??? Are there any indications that say we won’t utterly stomp them? If so, where? Not in my comment. I’m confident that we’ll be victorious over fascism just like always. It takes time and effort. I endeavor to persevere.
Exhibit A:
https://twitter.com/Acyn/status/1780251319779102951
Listen to the whole thing.
Frankensteinbeck
@Joe Falco:
But you have to admit, Mike is a huge dick.
Spanky
It isn’t like Marge to be rejecting a Johnson.
TBone
@cain: 👍 from your lips to gawd’s ear. This iteration of the party will never not be losers with loser stink following them around like MTG stomping along, bringing up the rear, while shouting into her bullhorn.
Kay
@cain:
They might be holding out for aid to Palestinians coupled with weapons aid to Israel. That’s one of their asks and it’s a perfectly reasonable position, and one that aligns with the US statements that the US is supporting military aid to Israel AND humanitarian aid to Palestinians. Credibility is important. Just saying it is not enough – there’s not going to be any coulda woulda shoulda discussion if half a million people die of starvation. There’s going to be a reckoning on this. The US has to deliver on the promise.
Tim Kaine stated this 2 weeks ago and it doesn’t get much more mainstream Dem than Tim Kaine.
I can’t find the current status of the Palestiniian aid. Johnson has vowed to strip it in past months. Apparently it isn’t that important since I can’t find reporting on it, which is just fucking incredible.
MomSense
If a former Speaker of the House had told the press that a Democratic MoC had orchestrated his ouster because h said MoC didn’t want an ethics committee investigation into the allegation that the MoC slept with a 17 year old the media would be talking about it non stop. I’ve barely heard a peep about this and it’s infuriating.
I’m so upset about the traitorous Republican Party refusing to assist Ukraine that I really can’t comment on it. Words fail me and I’m so emotional about it I can’t think.
TBone
What I used to do at work in law offices when confronted with WASPy white male bullshit: picture them in a big tutu, flouncing with pirouettes. My password back then was RubyTwo2.
🎶
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ADtnUC_ctNk
Much preferable to underwear.
MomSense
@Frankensteinbeck:
More comments like this and our blog will need an accountability blog. 😉
Kay
@cain:
Preventing mass starvation in Gaza is no longer about what Israel or Hamas will or will not do. It is now about what the US will or will not do because it’s now about US credibility in the world, including credibility on Ukraine.
Apparently once starvation takes hold in a population it’s very difficult to control, even with aid. Time is of the essence. Time’s up.
Ksmiami
@Villago Delenda Est: I’d say something worse, but I’d be banned
Ksmiami
@Snarki, child of Loki: wood chipper works better…
TBone
@MomSense: 😆
Citizen Alan
@cain:
Not while Bibi’s in charge and doing their bidding just as thoroughly as any of their US minions
TBone
Mahatma Gandhi
Baud
@TBone:
Gandhi wasn’t on social media.
Citizen Alan
@Kay: I understand your frustration and I feel it to. I just don’t know what Biden is supposed to do short of invading and occupying Gaza and holding it against opposition from both the IDF and Hamas and despite the outrage of every Republican in Congress, the entire media establishment, and approximately half the country. And that’s assuming not a single US soldier died in the crossfire, because Biden is still paying a political price for losing just 12 soldiers in what was otherwise one of the most incredibly successful military operations in this century.
I know it sucks to expose the limits of US presidential power in such a humiliating way, but what exactly is a US president supposed to do in the face of an intransigent Congress when an ally with whom we have treaty obligations decides to engage in ethnic cleansing. Bill Clinton caught hell for getting us into Bosnia and the good guys/bad guys were far clearer there than they are in the current cycle of mutually parasitic destruction between Netanyahu’s government and Hamas.
TBone
@Baud: 😂
TBone
A ride in the wayback machine:
https://centerforpoliticalawareness.com/blog/mike-johnsons-campaign-contributions-from-company-tied-to-russia/
Citizen Alan
@TBone: No disrespect to Gandhi, but I really don’t see history working that way at all. I think most of human history can be summed up as “what if we gave warring tribes of savage, feral chimpanzees enough intelligence to build weapons?”
Trollhattan
@Baud: Gandhi invented Twitter, which people are talking about more and more these days.
TBone
@Citizen Alan:
Jay C
Another thing ISTR from the last round of the Speakership Follies is that if that position is vacant, the House cannot do any other business until a new Speaker is elected. IOW, if the Chaos Caucus boots Johnson, everything in the HoR is put on hold. Which probably suits the Moscow Mules just fine.
In which case what I would LOVE to see is just enough GOPers get sick enough of the loonies’ nonsense, and vote Hakeem Jeffries in – even as a Minority Speaker, he would be WAY likelier to get things (anything) done….
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Citizen Alan:
Couldn’t he just stop supplying weapons to Isreal? Or at least threaten it?
ETA
Matt McIrvin
@cain:
I’m not convinced of that at all. A large fraction of Trump’s support has always been from people who like that he’s horrible and outrageous as a kind of trolling action–we hate it, but they hate us, so it’s awesome because it’s pissing us off, and the more obviously unfit Trump is, the more hilarious it gets.
If people have been convinced to be pissed off enough at Biden and Democrats that that becomes a majority attitude, there’s no limit. Trump could pull his pants down and shit on the courtroom floor and it’d improve his numbers.
catclub
missionary?
TBone
@catclub: snort
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Matt McIrvin:
Where have you seen this?
Another Scott
@Steeplejack:
Still 195 signers.
Presumably everyone is waiting to see what the rules for the votes on the supplementals this week will be.
https://nitter.poast.org/fritschner says the rules are there won’t be any border security amendments permitted. He also says that there are discussions about the levels of humanitarian assistance for Gaza to be included.
We’ll see!
Cheers,
Scott.
sab
@Citizen Alan: What Kay says still needs to be said loudly, because this is very much now our responsibility, and not enough Americans seem to realize how bad we look to the rest of the world.
Kay
@Citizen Alan:
Oh come on. Biden threatened to condition aid after the western aid workers were murdered and all of a sudden Israel started complying.
You could tell me he can’t do anything before that but now we all know that’s not true.
of course the US has influence in Israel. It’s ludicrous to make this claim.
Kathleen
@Omnes Omnibus: I remember that song well from my college days.
Fake Irishman
@Another Scott:
Thanks for looking into this. The thing is that there is often a lot of stuff going on behind the scenes we don’t know about. If they can get a rule Dems will support that will nerf the freedom caucus both in the committee and on the floor.
Of course, if the House doesn’t merely pass the senate bill that opens up a new can of worms on the other side of Capitol Hill.
Geminid
@Kay: This morning’s Politico Playbook had a some reporting on the humanitarian aid funds, in a twenty+ paragraph story about Mike Johnson’s new “strategy” titled, Johnson makes his move:
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Hey. You were missed.
Baud
@Geminid:
Thanks. Good to know.
Suzanne
@Citizen Alan:
Stop giving them a single American dollar or weapon, to start. Condition all American aid on not committing ethnic cleansing.
That’s what just chafes me so much about this “debate”. Why is this not the mainstream position?!
Geminid
@Kay: The bill underlying Rep. McGovern’s Petition to Discharge is the Senate bill that includes the humanitarian aid funds.
Another Scott
@rikyrah: That reminds me…
I only heard a bit of this 1A show a day or so ago, but what I heard made me want to break things.
(Emphasis added.)
Lots and lots of people did not vote for these monsters, Todd. Lots and lots of people were not able to vote for anyone to represent their because of voter suppression and all the rest. Lots of people do not think that politicians should be “entrusted” with decisions about abortion and women’s healthcare.
But beyond that, the framing is infuriating to me. The GQP is not the hapless victim of some extraordinary event that creates a hard puzzle here. Women and the people who love them are the victims of the monsters in that party.
Grr…,
Scott.
zhena gogolia
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): Hi! People have been asking about you.
Kay
@Geminid:
Thanks so much. I’m relieved.
I think Biden may have already backdoored some like he backdoored Israel aid, under Presidential authority. That’s the scuttlebutt among pro Palestinian social media, anyway. Any way he can get it in there fast is fine with me.
zhena gogolia
@Suzanne:
I believe you missed this part of Citizen Alan’s comment:
Goku (aka Amerikan Baka)
@Baud:
Hey! I had to take a bit of time off from the news
Kay
@zhena gogolia:
Well, though, the US has two sets of laws that say the US cannot provide military aid to any government that blocks humanitarian aid, either directly or indirectly. There’s an exception for national security that only the President can rely upon (if it were invoked- five Democratic Senators have raised these laws as an issue for Biden). That puts the entire onus squarely on Joe Biden.
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: And oh, man, did I need that shot in the ear! Thank you for dat!
My absolute favorite of his songs, by far. And my, what a sexy devil DD was back in the day!
Kay
@zhena gogolia:
I read it and there’s a big exception for national security that the President could rely upon – of course there is, makes sense- but this is seven D senators saying they’re citing US law. I think it has to be grappled with.
Baud
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka):
Good to have you back.
Manyakitty
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): hey, welcome back 🙂
Kay
The other D Senators pressuring Biden on humanitarian aid are Mazie Hirono, Peter Welch, Tina Smith, Elizabeth Warren and Ben Ray Lujan.
Geminid
@Baud: It’s kind of good, but this is one reason Hakeem Jeffries said Democratic leaders are waiting to see the substance of Republican plans before going along with the process (it’s thought that Democrats on the Rules Committee may have to help get the legislation on the floor). Nobody knows what Johnson will come up with.
Reporter Jake Sherman did tweet one positive bit of news this morning. A Republican member told him that if Johnson’s bill failed, “the floodgates would open” and enough Republicans would sign the Petition to Discharge to put the Senate package on the floor.
I can believe that, but I keep in mind that these potential Republican signers won’t stick their necks out in public and say they’ll sign the petition, much less sign it. They’re still hoping Johnson can pull the rabbit out of his hat.
Bill Arnold
@lowtechcyclist:
I’m in the general vicinity of New York City. The Russian mafia have been a presence for decades, since Mr. R. Giuliani helped them gain some control over local organized crime activities, in return for things that haven’t been generally revealed.
We just keep our eyes open.
Baud
@Geminid:
I don’t trust anything any of them say.
Suzanne
@zhena gogolia: There is no treaty preventing us from conditioning our aid. It’s such a mainstream position that it’s literally the position of the FTFNYT.
Military Aid to Israel Cannot Be Unconditional
Harrison Wesley
@Kay: No need to do anything. Give it a month or two, all the ragheads will have starved to death or been blown up, another couple of months while the Merkin public employs its goldfish-capacity memory, and the whole thing disappears. Let the good times roll. ETA: of course, some mouth noises of concern would be appropriate.
lowtechcyclist
From Jim Wright aka Stonekettle on Facebook:
Alas, his lawyers and his Secret Service agents wouldn’t go along with that, but the thought is hilarious.
Geminid
@Baud: Yeah, this is one where we won’t know until it happens, if and when Johnson’s bill fails. Then the Republican Ukraine hawks are going to have to put their money where their mouths are.
I think they will, which is one reason I’m not sweating the Democratic holdouts. There are plenty of Republicans who say they want this legislation to pass. No use making it a Democratic intra-party fight, in my opinion.
And if their votes are needed, I think some of the hold outs will come around on the Petition even if they won’t vote for the underlying bill. I think the Republican votes are there; we just have to smoke them out.
lowtechcyclist
@TBone:
You say the Russians are already our Deep State. IOW, they’ve already taken over, and are already running everything from behind the scenes. (You have some other definition of ‘Deep State’?) In which case how does that change if Biden stays in office? The Russian Deep State would just continue to be in charge as it is now; elections would be useless.
And no, I don’t believe that’s what’s happening. I don’t believe we’re doomed. (That’s why my next line began, “Seriously.”)
My point was that OF COURSE the Russians aren’t our Deep State. Sure, I know the House GOP might as well be an arm of the Russian government at this point. But that only enables them to block stuff from getting done; they don’t really control anything. They don’t know how to get anything done on their own. That’s not a Deep State. Just sayin’.
lowtechcyclist
@Frankensteinbeck:
But also one that would do just about anything to be and remain Speaker. Not nearly as sure that’s the case with Moses.
StringOnAStick
@Goku (aka Amerikan Baka): People were concerned because we hadn’t seen you here in a while. Glad to see your comment!
rikyrah
@MomSense:
Come sit by me.
Geminid
@lowtechcyclist: I don’t think we really have a “Deep State ” in the true sense of the term. It was coined by people in Turkiye, and they really did have a Deep State: an alliance of military leaders, prosecutors and judges, and powerful businessmen who effectively suppressed challenges to the status quo.
That’s how the military could change 4 civilian governments from 1960 to 1997, by coups in 1960 and 1980 and twice by “miltary memeorandums” that told the President to pick a new Prime Minister or else. The generals never faced any repercussions, in part because of the strength of the “Deep State” network. They allowed new elections with newly permitted parties, and politics proceeded as if nothing had happened.
The fact that they tried and hanged the civilian leaders after their 1960 coup helped. After that, few politicians wanted to bring up questions of civilian vs.military authority. They concentrated on “kitchen table” issues instead.
cain
@Kay: I don’t think national security applies to Israel and Palestine. We are not directly harmed in any shape way or form other than allowing genocide to happen that actually could affect our relationship with other countries.
cain
@Baud: But then his son would know!
Geminid
@cain: This doesn’t neccesarily apply to your point, but when the State Department announced a sanctions regime directed at violent West Bank settlers as well as their settlements, there was an underlying National Security Council finding that these settlements threatened U.S. security. There was so much going on at the time the sanctions regime started that this aspect received little attention, but observers thought the national security finding was significant.
Quadrillipede
He is. But he’s not rising to meet the moment, alas…
Ruckus
@cain:
At some point, support has got to collapse given the multiple embarrassing shitshows.
First, I ask why? Rethuglicans seem to want a shit show – it is their normalcy.
Second, If they actually play their normal game they will circle the wagons around whatever pile of shit they are following this week, and if they aren’t following one that day it will be like two 3rd graders fighting in the school yard over some toy, that neither actually likes.
Ruckus
@Frankensteinbeck:
But you have to admit, Mike is a huge dick.
1. But flaccid.
2. But worse than useless – see above.
A 12 yr old with a huge dick? Oh wait it’s only his mentality that is 12.
Citizen Alan
In principle, I agree completely. But somebody tell me: Is that something the POTUS can do unilaterally without Congressional approval. Because if Biden can just refuse to send aid that has been appropriate by Congress, then I’m no longer sure why Trump got impeached for conditioning aid to Ukraine one Zelinskyy (sp?) going after Hunter Biden.
EDIT: And some people have pointed to such a law that I was unaware of. Much thanks.
Matt McIrvin
@Geminid: What the Republicans mean by “Deep State” is the civil service: the fact that there are officials in the government who can’t be fired on a whim for political reasons, and whose loyalty is to the United States and not to the current administration.
They want to eliminate it. That’s not just Trump; Newt Gingrich has been keen on this for decades.
It’s the newfangled innovation of Chester Alan Arthur.
Geminid
@Matt McIrvin: That’s certainly part of it. But they take is further than that, and include private institutions like the Rockefeller Trust, and powerful individuals like Bill Gates and George Soros.
And then there are the Globalists. You see, there was a Masonic Lodge formed in Paris during the 1780s, and….