Over at LGM, Paul Campos found a Reddit post from a couple of servers who got huge tips last week ($300 and $777) from a patron who was expecting the rapture during the eclipse. Campos makes a good point:
Now if I walked into a restaurant, strung out from the road, and gave the servers more than a thousand dollars in tips because I believed space aliens were about to transport me to the planet Zod, where they don’t have money (or tacos apparently) I would be considered an obvious lunatic. But in this case the person in question is considered to be “part of the evangelical base” that could well re-elect Donald Trump president less than seven months from now.
But this is the part of the story I want to focus on:
Fast forward to today, and she’s back again, adamant that her tips were somehow fraudulent and that we tampered with them. Her claims of fraud are literally impossible, we bring the card reader to the table, and it’s the guest who decides the tip amount by either pressing a preset option or entering a custom one before hitting pay. That’s exactly what she did. So, it’s physically impossible for us to manipulate the tip amounts.
Both my coworker and I have already received our tips with our paychecks, and we obviously have to pay income tax on them. Returning the money to her at this point is literally impossible since we don’t actually have all the money.
[…]my manager told her we couldn’t refund the tip and she stormed out angrily to her Mercedes.[…]
Not only are we supposed to treat their crazy ideas as serious because they are “beliefs”, but they also want a fucking refund when their bullshit doesn’t pan out. And it’s never a lesson learned with these assholes — they’ll fall for the next con, because they were raised only to be comfortable when someone’s lying to them in the special way that the con men and women in their life have done since childhood.
Cervantes
If you hear voices in your head, you’re schizophrenic — unless you think the voices are God.
laura
I demand a refund for my generosity to workers, in his name!
Ohio Mom
@Cervantes: Depends on your social class. A homeless person who makes a loud fuss about god addressing them personally could very likely end up in the ER.
Baud
Put it on God’s tab.
Baud
Glad the manager didn’t screw over the workers.
DesertFriar
Just tell her the rapture did actually happen then, she just didn’t make the cut
Old School
From the comments:
JerseyBeard
As parents I think we need to take responsibility and start applying a lot more nuance to the lesson: “be tolerant of other people’s beliefs.”
Clearly there is an entire category where mockery is significantly more appropriate.
Ksmiami
Caveat Emptor Maga Morons
Baud
@JerseyBeard:
I wouldn’t mock the woman for the false belief alone, only because of the way she treated other people.
Mathguy
As someone pointed out over at LGM, it’s good to see management back the servers up on this.
JerseyBeard
@Baud: I can respect that belief.
sdhays
Also, kudos to the restaurant for entering the 21st century and bringing the card reader to the table. I’m still puzzled why this is soooooooo slow to catch on in these United States.
Spanky
I find it pretty to think that she needed that grand back so she can make the next payment on that Mercedes. And I’ll bet she was already behind on payments thinking she’d stiff the loan company once she got raptured.
Bill Arnold
@DesertFriar:
One of the comments:
Duncan Watson
A relevant point is that when they got the $777 tip they actually checked with the manager if this was ok, then he went to the table and verified with the woman that this was intended. This was before the eclipse. So when she returned, it was exactly as the coworker expected.
Shalimar
I know it’s a trivial detail, but what I don’t get is why the rapture would come during this particular eclipse. She does realize they happen many times during her lifetime, right? She should have at least heard of the last one when Lord and Savior Trump looked right at it.
Leto
@JerseyBeard: Patton Oswald has the correct take on that.
Spanky
@Shalimar: Yeah, it’s usually comets that bring out the nuts. Maybe because there was a widely publicized comet near aphelion* at the eclipse that made this one special?
(* and a newly discovered one!)
Frankensteinbeck
…okay, sure, performing oral sex is a skill not many people regret learning. I grant you that.
@Cervantes:
Actually, that the mainstream population no longer thinks that way is a big part of our current social backlash. Evangelicals used to be able to tell the world that God told them to do something and be applauded. These days, most of the population gives them funny looks and edges away. One of a number of Win Buttons they’re furious about losing.
Ruckus
@sdhays:
Like everything else it costs money.
Is it better? Yes. Does it take the process of cheating in counting tips out of the process? Yes. Does it take the need to leave cash out of the process of eating in a restaurant? Yes. Does it make life easier for all but the deranged? Yes. Does it allow the customer, the restaurant and the server to see the entire transaction? Yes.
Seems like a positive process to me…..
Bill Arnold
@Cervantes:
If you mean more than one voice, OK. But many humans have an inner monologue continuously chattering away. And some people say that they sometimes have different voices arguing. (How can they think with all that chatter distracting them? :-)
Some people have no internal monologue.
Baud
@Bill Arnold:
Plus, a lot of these people aren’t hearing God’s voice, but the voice of some self appointed person of God who feeds them this stuff.
Leto
@Shalimar: mental illness is a hell of a thing. We’re seeing what it looks like untreated.
Bill Arnold
@Shalimar:
Well, yes, but not at her location. That’s what counts, to her. (Solipsism, sort of.)
Before easy travel, a total solar eclipse was experienced by a minority of humans in their lifetime. Still the case, since most don’t bother or can’t afford to travel to see one.
sdhays
@Ruckus: Right, but what has surprised me is the new restaurants still implementing the old way. I get not wanting to invest in new technology when you have something established, but when you’re buying all new and still set your restaurant up like it’s 1995, I don’t get it.
Probably need a dreaded government mandate.
Ruckus
@Cervantes:
When I was a mental health counselor – many, many, many moons ago – anyone that told me they heard voices in their head was certifiable and needed fully licensed, professional and very experienced mental health care.
Uncle Cosmo
@Mathguy: It’s always a good idea to back up the servers.
Oh.
eclare
@Leto:
Perfect.
sdhays
@Bill Arnold: But…as I recall, Florida was pretty far from totality. So it didn’t really happen at her location.
I think we’re analyzing brain worms here; there is no logic outside her brain worm reality.
Soprano2
@sdhays: Problems with spotty wi-fi, for one. We tried those tablets early on and gave up on them because not only was there a wi-fi problem out on the patio, those things were fragile and broke if you looked at them wrong. Might try them again if they’re more reliable.
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Ruckus: Sometimes, they’re just writers.
Leto
@Uncle Cosmo: Boooo this man!
Jeffg166
Will this “persecution “ never end?
Bill Arnold
@sdhays:
Oh. (Didn’t read the piece, mea culpa.) Yeah, partial solar eclipses are much easier to see. I’ve seen at least 3 without traveling, maybe more.
I wouldn’t be bothered by her brain worms if they weren’t so greedy.
New Deal democrat
FWIW…
I am currently reading Tim Alberta’s “The Kingdom, the Power, and the Glory.” Alberta is a believing Evangelical who despairs over the overtly RW political turn of most of his Church.
Just this morning I read his particularly interesting chapter on Jerry Falwell Sr. and Jr., and Liberty University.
Senior comes across as both a superb huckster and salesman, with a huge ego, but who also truly believed in Jesus, but was a poor (to say the least) fiscal manager. Junior, on the other hand, comes across as a vicious amoral commercial real estate developer, who is an excellent money manager and worships Mammon and the GOP. Probably his only passing coincidence with “Christianity” is the so-called prosperity gospel.
Senior set up Junior as the fiscal manager of LIberty University, but an “adopted” son, Mark DeMoss, as the preserver of the school’s Evangelical heritage. Eventually Junior ran off DeMoss.
In that light, Junior’s crucial early endorsement of Trump was not because Trump had Kompromat on Junior, but rather just a case of game recognizing game.
Junior’also stripped the student Democratic Club of its official club status, and his successor is reported to have said that he considered “electing Republicans” as one of the school’s core goals (even thought he school remains tax-exempt)_.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
Always telling how conservatives, yunno the so-called people of personal responsibility, never actually want to taking any.
Projection, always projection with them.
I too am disappointed that that particular christian myth didn’t happen b/c if it did, that would mean that fewer godbothering assholes left to inflict their weird, superstitious claptrap on the rest of us.
Trollhattan
So many cults, so few comets.
Remember that one?
Harrison Wesley
@Leto: I didn’t believe in MAGAlomania, but now…..?
different-church-lady
@Leto: Actually, you don’t even have to acknowledge them.
Uncle Cosmo
@Leto: IMO it goes a bit farther than that: One has to, not just acknowledge that thus&so are someone’s (professed or implied) beliefs, but also that said beliefs determine their behavior toward others.
IMO the behavior is the important part: No one can know absolutely what is in another’s head or heart, and therefore we can only evaluate them on the basis of their outward actions, i.e., behavior, and how such actions affect others. (JMO, YMMV)
TBone
The word ‘snowflake’ was given its slang usage meaning because of these sanctimonious jackasses. I have really funny and also shocking stories from my life here but today I’m too scattered to get into it. One adult woman started cry-bawl-screaming like an infant at the supermarket. I almost pantsed her.
MattF
We’re all learning quite a bit about mental illness these days. I recall a rule I heard once from a professional: “When someone is acting really strangely, you should grab them and ask ‘What is the name of the medication you stopped taking’”.
Chief Oshkosh
@DesertFriar:
I’ve used that line before.
It had the intended effect.
TBone
When these fucks try to judge me, I say “Oh, is Jesus hiring? Where did you get that authority?” Then they usually STFU.
Also, “don’t confuse proselytizing with prostituting.”
Leto
@different-church-lady: agreed
@Uncle Cosmo: also agreed.
Tony Jay
The people are just awful. Their cult isn’t about maintaining internal rules to guide their own behaviour towards an eventual divine judgement, it’s about enforcing external rules to guard their own behaviour from the immediate judgement of non-cultists.
To which “Fuck you, weirdo creep” is the only acceptable response I know that isn’t Latin.
Trollhattan
@Chief Oshkosh:
“Stuck here with us, lucky you. Let’s go find some free pickups.”
Bupalos
@Baud: Didn’t he though? As related, the second waitperson didn’t want to take the tip at all, apparently not wanting to take advantage of a crazy person. Which I’d say is the ethical move here.
But the manager just created legal cover by having the nutball affirm the tip was intentional. Which…. not great.
Bupalos
Might be worth noting as folks do the general “THEY’RE ALL LIKE THIS” thing, that there’s no identifying details here or sourcing or any way to follow up, so it has about the same status as the litter boxes in schools thing. Really no reason to take this at face value, other than it aligns with priors.
japa21
@Bupalos: True. There’s more identification of the Trump jurors than here
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David 🏀Caitlin Clark🏀 Koch
I love these dumb shit accounts because it stirs delightful memories of Mark Twain’s “A Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court”
patrick II
Religion grants an unearned authority to the believer. When there is disagreement. they are right because it is God’s word. It is so much easier than, for example, be like Dr. Fauci and go to school for years, take difficult courses, struggle with calculus and biochemistry, serve a medical internship and finally earn the right to speak with an earned authority to the issue of a pandemic It is so much easier to quote an out of context phrase from the Bible and say you know you are right because it is God’s word.
sdhays
@Soprano2: Like I said, I totally understand a reluctance for established businesses. But people setting up brand new fancy restaurants or cafes where setting up the necessary wifi/booster is just part of setting up and choosing the old way – I just don’t get that.
It was already pretty common in Europe over 10 years ago, so I have to believe the technology is pretty solid now.
Montanareddog
@Bill Arnold:
Entire populations, too, like the Dutch. “Are you sure you should be eating that ice cream with your weight problem?”.
Hoodie
It seems that one of the attractions of religion to some people is that it gives them an excuse to be stupid or, more generously, relieves them of the anxiety and other burdens of making decisions. When the woman was initially tipping, her religious euphoria at the prospect of rising up to meet the Lord may have removed some the anxiety that might be involved in having to figure out how much to tip. Tipping can be a stressful interaction for some people because it entails a conflict about judging worth and your duty to reward it. Some people get around that by simply having ironclad rules, e.g., I always tip waitstaff 20% because that’s really part of the price of the meal if they’re getting a tipped wage. Her later reaction might then be viewed as somewhat akin to how a person might act when they realize they did something stupid while intoxicated, that is, she was moved by her religious visions but later realized she was just drunk on Jesus. That might have engendered resentment that the waitstaff was taking advantage of her intoxication. Tough luck, lady, no one to blame but yourself.
HumboldtBlue
Dicky Betts has died. Goddamn it.
TBone
Along with selling blasphemous bibles, they’re now giving out investment advice.
crooksandliars.com/2024/04/trump-media-trying-block-short-sellers
John Revolta
She’s lucky the servers weren’t Republicans. They would’ve got her to sign over her car.
Geminid
@New Deal democrat: One Falwell family irony: Jerry Senior’s father and uncle were notorious Campbell County bootleggers back in the day.
Baud
@Bupalos:
How does that screw over the workers?
TBone
@HumboldtBlue: 💔
[Jimmy] Carter returned later and said he’d spoken to their manager about the possibility of having the band perform for his campaign — for president.
“Well, that tickled the hell out of us,” Betts said. “We said, ‘Wow, you know, a Georgia boy elected president,’ we liked that idea. We experienced him as the governor, so we knew what kind of guy he was. He put some sunshine back into Georgia’s reputation, we became a good place to go. We said, ‘Yeah, we’ll do some shows.’”
Betts believed Carter was a great person to represent Georgia, a state that had long contended with a reputation for racism and negative stereotypes. Carter won the bid for the 1976 Democratic nomination before going on to win the general election on Nov. 2 of that year.
TBone
@David 🏀Caitlin Clark🏀 Koch: have you read Twain’s ‘Christian Science’ treatise? It is full of belly laughs! I got a vintage set of the entire works of Mark Twain at a thrift store. We share a birthday.
gutenberg.org/files/3187/3187-h/3187-h.htm
Ruckus
@sdhays:
Not all new technologies are widespread and well known. That takes time and often someone to sell them to the end user.
The second thing is that if someone owns a direct customer service type business, like a restaurant, any new technology has to be purchased, taught the usage of, and accepted by the staff. And that often takes time and effort and in ANY business time and effort cost money. Is the new system better? Sure seems like it to me. Does the new system fix a problem or is it just money spent? This also seems positive to me. But the big question is – will every worker and customer like the new system? And the answer to that is likely not. Because some humans are extremely process orientated, they learn one way to do something and it actually works and so relearning a different way is beyond their concept of being. And no I’m not at all kidding. I believe that this is changing because we now see a much different world than when I was, say 18. And because change, especially in technology is far more rapid. I saw my first computer in the early 70s and it was big, slow and very expensive. No one would buy one to do anything on at home. I brought my first computer in 1978, an Apple II. Not a II e, a II. A current cell phone is so far superior to computers of the late 70s that it’s difficult to see that far back. I was on a tour of a computer storage room that was all 1 inch wide magnetic tape readers. It was the size of a medium warehouse. My personal computer stores more data and any cell phone sold is far more powerful and faster than the computer of the day and it took a room about twice the size of my front room and air conditioning that would rival a meat locker just to keep it running. A phone now fits in a pocket. As someone born in the first half of the last century I can tell you without any doubt whatsoever that progress in this field and in any field that uses computers (most all of them!) has been stunning to witness. Look at what we are doing now. Most of us do not even know each other and we can have discussions over thousands of miles, water, mountains, deserts, time, and none of that gets in the way. As an old fart I can tell you that this is better and this was not even thought or dreamed of a lifetime ago.
Ruckus
@Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism:
Successful writers do not have brains that go angrily in 8 directions at a time. It is work, like any other endeavor, it takes thought – organized thought. Sure it’s different than say designing and making wooden cabinets but it takes an at least somewhat organized thought process to write good stuff. One has to picture/see the end product, at least the general direction, and design/organize/build/finish the concept to get to the final product.
Kathleen
@Baud: God blames Autocorrect.
Leto
@Ruckus: these aren’t new technologies, this is actually old shit by current standards. sdhays is correct in that these were in Europe over a decade ago (they were there when I was stationed there), and they’re pretty ubiquitous at least where I live here in PA. If anything, it’s the surcharge that the credit card companies charge to businesses that’s a more limiting factor. I know a lot of the smaller restaurants around here just straight up say, “We get charged 3.5% for all credit card charges; we’re passing that on to you”. Those places don’t use a mobile card reader because you’re usually paying for that stuff right there at the counter.
Also this:
That’s always a super bad take especially when it comes to what we’re talking about. They’ve already been trained on how to use a credit/debit card reader. Nobody is having to train someone on a cordless model. Also if you can’t pick that up quick, you’re typically fired. There’s tons of people who can be taught how to do this.
Bupalos
@Baud: Well (supposing any of this is even true) the waiter that quite reasonably and ethically didn’t want to be involved in a dispute with a crazy lady by taking advantage of her delusion now may be involved in such a dispute with such a person.
“But it’s not the waiter, it’s restaurant policy….” well, you might not get that far trying to tell that to the lady who sees demons in her eggs. Should have been the waiter’s right not to be involved in this kind of thing.
Baud
@Bupalos:
Doesn’t sound like a dispute is ongoing. And the waiter probably had options if he or she didn’t want the money. I really can’t say this is a case of the waiter getting screwed by management.
Ruckus
@MattF:
‘What is the name of the medication you stopped taking’”.
That is both hilarious and troubling – because it is so often true. They get help and modern medicine can often do that. It is also often true that no matter how much help they need or desire, it is often as true that what the medication helps it also can scare the crap out of people – because they learned how to be without the meds. Of course they learned in a dangerous manner but now they have to do that all over again and they only know the way they originally got to where they were. They need help to learn better, not just a med to stop the insanity – they have nothing to replace the insanity with. It takes assistance and desire along side the medication. If the hole they fell, climbed, jumped into is the only direction they know to go, they need a map, a guide, a shove on the back, a kick in the ass, the picture of what better looks like. As a former mental health counselor I can guarantee they need the map and the ability to read that map because they never got that. Most people did get at least some form of the map but in any large population there will be a significant number that did not.
catclub
Or enough customers saying they want to keep their card in their own hand.
TBone
@New Deal democrat: my neighbors’ son is currently enrolled at Liberty U. 🤢
They are dead serious about electing rethugs – it’s a recruitment center. Check out the names on this roster:
liberty.edu/news/2023/04/26/business-government-students-meet-with-members-of-congress-at-washington…
Also:
liberty.edu/champion/2023/10/mike-pompeo-joins-staff-former-secretary-of-state-named-new-faculty-mem…
Trollhattan
@TBone:
He had a lot of fun at the expense of Brigham Young and the Mormons.
TBone
@Trollhattan: 🤣🩷💜
prostratedragon
It is also hard to move forward.
Geminid
@TBone: There’s a little bit of a political machine centered on Liberty U. They keep it on the down-low, but it’s been apparent the last few election cycles. In 2020, they were instrumental in Bob Good’s nomination over incumbent Rep. Denver Riggleman. First they engineered a caucus/convention process instead of a primary. Then, the District Convention was held at Liberty University, where Good worked up until he ran for Congress
Martin
@sdhays: Because restaurants aren’t interested in solving that problem for patrons. They’re interested in what’s fastest for the wait staff and what can save them money.
The US contactless payment standard is different from the European one – it’s actually a lot better – but it’s also a lot newer. The first implementation of it in the US was Apple Pay (there was some contactless payments in the US before that but under a pretty jank standard). There were a number of challenges with this:
And on that latter point, those portable terminals are kind of expensive, and you need way more of them (one per server) than you do the old style terminals where you need 1 or 2 tops. And if they don’t see the new terminals as a way to turn a table faster, it’s just a cost to them – and not a small cost – they get dropped, have food spilled on them, etc. It’s a recurring cost. But nobody (like Congress) is pushing them to address this. Congress isn’t mandating the new standard, or how it should be implemented such as ‘customers should be able to complete the transaction without handing their card to another person’. That would solve not just that but a whole bunch of other problems you find outside of restaurants.
Martin
@Bupalos: I actually had a lady who saw demons in her eggs. Was working the cafeteria in college and a woman in one of the summer groups that come through and rent out the campus for a few says entered the line, got a plate, stared at it for a few seconds and then threw it across the kitchen screaming ‘these eggs have demons in them’ and wouldn’t calm down for like 10 minutes. The response from the student staff of either laughing or sighing and rolling eyes did not amuse the group of guests.
I had another woman corner for a couple of minutes saying she could tell I don’t put lemon in my water because I have no soul, and the lemon is what keeps your soul in your body. If I drink a lot of water with lemon, my soul might return to me. I swear it was Ms Martins idea to plant the lemon tree in our yard, and I do indeed mix lemonade with my tea almost daily. I hadn’t considered until just now that she too thought I didn’t have a soul.
Ruckus
@Leto:
I am not arguing with you in any way – but.
Not everyone gets that training, that growing up, that maturing. Maybe their parent(s) didn’t get it. Maybe their parent(s) had to work full time to put food on the table and or a roof over their heads. In this country we often don’t see the people that didn’t get this “normalcy” that most do. I’ve met people on both sides of this problem, I’ve (long ago) been a trained counselor for some of them.
And new technologies – how new? As I’ve said above I used to use computers at work – in the 70s. Before some technologies that are now outdated. The world of today looks and is a lot different than what I learned as a child. Take medicine – the difference of today and that of people my age is just amazing. I had a tremor from childhood that showed up in my hands. Six months ago my doctor prescribed a medication that in 4 days took away my life long tremor. Life is both the same and no where near the same as when I was born in the first half of the last century. And it changes faster than it used to because knowledge leads to more knowledge. That tremor removal concept did not exist all that long ago and is a side effect of that medication, not what it normally exists for.
I’ve owned 2 businesses, completely different businesses, one manufacturing and one retail. My comment about time is that while time is the same as when I was born, many things change at a faster rate than they used to. And time and effort is what business is, no matter what is being provided. That manufacturing business was in manufacturing tools for industry to make products. Those tools formed bottles, toys, industrial products. Many of the customers were companies that most anyone would recognize. They ranged from small to nation and world wide companies. And making those tools took TIME and EFFORT. And time and effort is what any company sells. The time and effort changes depending upon the product. Your doctor sells you time and effort. That effort is the knowledge gained from schooling, that takes a long time and effort to learn the way and possible end results of the job at hand. Working in a restaurant takes time and effort. Building your cell phone takes time and effort. Teaching takes time and effort. Being a lawyer takes time and effort. And that time and effort costs someone money. Every business makes money by spending time and effort to accomplish whatever task or product it is attempting to design/build/sell. No matter if that task or product takes 1/2 hr to learn or years at college to get the degree/license to practice.
And someone pays for that time and effort.
Both at the time of learning and at the time of doing.
You or someone paid for your college degree to practice law. I pay my doctor for my healthcare. I have paid lawyers to work for me, and accountants and people that worked for me to do work that took knowledge, and time and effort to learn. Just as everyone who works had to learn how, just as everyone who teaches had to learn how, just as every thing takes time and effort and costs money. It’s why we have money, as a common method to pay the cost of everything, from learning, to producing, to servicing, to moving, to growing, to everything.
scav
@Leto: More than a decade ago, closer to 15 possibly, I ran into one of those digital card readers at a farmers market in France. Not a big town either.
Bupalos
@Martin: You mean you hadn’t considered that she might be on to you! Congratulations on acquiring a lemony soul. Mine is more gin-scented.
Bupalos
@Baud: To be honest I think it’s a case of partisan internet-brain infecting the blog. This story has no more credibility or sourcing than any random post on the internet. I bothered to read a bit of this person’s reddit contributions and she really sounds like a fabulist. Knows 7 languages. Was a college TA at the age of 13. Has had bible thumpers come into a taco restaurant before and question her about Jesus and abuse her as filthy scum from whom they would never accept food Etc. That this supposed crazy lady stormed out to her Mercedes was the cloying touch that made me bother to read the poster’s history.
That something this thin makes it to otherwise intelligent blogs like this is a prime example of algorithmic capture. People believe this because they want to believe stuff like this broadly characterizes the enemy. It gives them a chance to vent the things they imagine about those people. It’s the exact thing those people did with the litter boxes in schools hoax. Blog hosts put this out there because it increases partisan engagement.
Whole thing is a little alarming. One aspect is that if this were true more folks should be able to see an ethical dimension to taking money from a crazy person having an episode, even if they do fit into their preconceived profile for “enemy.”
Citizen Alan
@Hoodie:
My belief is that the primary purpose of religion is to enslave people’s minds and make them more willing to submit to authority. Not just evangelical Christianity, but ALL religions. Ever since the first time some cave man figured out that he could get all the other cave men to do what he said if he claimed that he was just repeating the orders that had been handed down from the Great Spirit in the Sky that caused the lightning and thunder.
brantl
@comrade scotts agenda of rage: Not if they took the good ones! We’d be left with all these shits!
RevRick
@Shalimar: Let me be straight. The whole notion of a Rapture is garbage, based on a thorough misunderstanding of what happens at the parousia. But then let me be straight about white Evangelicalism. It’s garbage. It’s the ugly combination of racism, misogyny and Platonic philosophy. It’s the opposite of Christianity.
trnc
I like it!
I’d be very curious to know if she has made any demands of the people whose false claims convinced her of the impending rapture.
TBone
@Geminid: good eye! We need stay abreast of this fuckery. I’m well aware of it because neighbors’ son went to work for while he’s still “studying”:
1. Madison Cawthorne (we all know what happened to that little shitler), then
2. Anna Paulina Luna (hubby invested in stem cell research that uses fetal cells and they’re in trouble now) and
3. The office of another southern state lunatic where he currently does fuck all if I know.
StringOnAStick
@RevRick: I have a right wing Southern Baptist half sister, and it was apparent to me before I could even get a driver’s license that her main attraction to that sect is that it encourages hate towards those she already hated. Moral qualms all solved!
Geminid
@TBone: The Liberty U. network showed its hand in the 2018 nominations. Bob Goodlatte retired from his 6th District seat, and a carpetbagging Liberty U. adjunct professor came in second at the convention. She had a reputation from her years in Texas, when some governor appointrd her to the state school board despite-or because of- her anti-public school advocy.
A couple weeks later, the 5th District seat came open when Scott Garrett announced he would retire in order to better deal with his alcoholism. So the Liberty lady jumped into that one and lost to Denver Riggleman by one vote in the District Committee meeting. Her supporters were salty about it, but they got their revenge against Riggleman the next cycle.
TF79
@Bupalos: I was similarly skeptical when I read it on LGM (“sourced from a Reddit post” is not a great sign). My first thought was “well surely there’s a great photo of this monster tip”, but apparently not? If I had to put money on it, I’d wager something of the basic things happened along the lines of lady talking about the rapture and eclipse and so on, but that a lot of the on-the-nose details make for a good story on r/Atheism. That said, a couple receipts/photos or a local news report would certainly make it a lot more credible
Sister Rail Gun of Warm Humanitarianism
@Ruckus: That’s quite different from “anyone that told me they heard voices in their head was certifiable”.
PanurgeATL
@RevRick: Do tell!
WaterGirl
@PanurgeATL: I just saw your comment today, and approved it, so no one else will probably see it, especially RevRick.