Some light debate / derision topics, to test my Blogmaster bigfooting talents:
Before 1977, Ralph Nader is an American hero
1977-95, Nader is an anachronism Dems should listen to but often don't
1996-Present. Nader loses all touch with reality, destroys his life work and reputation forever https://t.co/21KtqeRwVM
— Erik Loomis (@ErikLoomis) April 20, 2024
Hands across the horseshoe…
Newsmax host says Chef José Andrés is “not that nice” and the World Central Kitchen “needs to be disbanded immediately” https://t.co/HPrviyet6Y
— Media Matters (@mmfa) April 10, 2024
Chef Jose Andres is a card-carrying member of the liberal NGO award dinner complex which is why his aid workers getting bombed by Israel provokes such special performative condemnation from premier liberal figures in the US, unlike the countless others that have been bombed
— Michael Tracey (@mtracey) April 3, 2024
Imagining Michael Tracey being chased into the night by Jose Andres security team after they catch him eating an entire carton of butter https://t.co/rwHE5lc5ME
— Environmental Services Weedle (@PartyWurmple) April 3, 2024
Omnes Omnibus
Butter goblin!
Urza
NGO award dinner complex? I wish they would string together a comprehensible sentence when insulting liberals.
Baud
@Urza:
It’s important to sound smart when you’re saying dumb things.
hrprogressive
I, for one, am glad to see Weedle appears to be on the right side of the issue here.
IYKYK!
Gin & Tonic
@Urza: It’s Michael Tracey. He can’t.
satby
Michael Tracey is such a a total twat.
Excuse me whilst I go tweet that at him.
Baud
@satby:
Tweets for twats.
rmjohnston
I can’t wait to see the exploding right-wing heads when WCF/Andres win the Nobel Peace Prize.
satby
@Baud: exactly.
David 🏀Caitlin Clark🏀 Koch
Butter emails!
Baud
At least when Reagan said it, the ACLU was a real organization (although they didn’t issue membership cards at the time).
bjacques
I’m on the fence on this. I need Caitlin Johnstone to weigh in first, if she can take a moment’s pause from wailing and gnashing her teeth and rending her garments after today’s House vote.
EDIT: /s (I ran afoul of Poe’s Law not too long ago…)
What a small, sad man.
different-church-lady
Twitter is a very stupid place.
sab
I think I used to vaguely know of a Michael Tracey, but I had to Google to be sure. And then I wasn’t. Probably not the same guy because I don’t remember and why would I have ever noticed this guy. Maybe the other one once wrote something stupid that alerted my ant antenna: avoid: He’s nuts. Certainly this one does routinely.
Urza
Never thought i’d miss the faux intellectual conservatism that is apparently lost now. At least they pretended there was logical reasons for their evil and could bullshit an intelligent person about it for quite awhile before it fell apart into gobbledygook. Now their base has their brains melted for so long they serve up the jello level arguments and think its just as good.
Baud
@different-church-lady:
If you think Twitter is bad, you should see X.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@satby:
He’s getting appropriately shit upon. So many good ones:
OTOH, there are also unhinged supportive comments as well.
Baud
@sab:
B-list anti-Dem lefty gadfly. You’ve probably come across something else stupid he has said before.
sab
@Baud: A bit graphic for my old lady sensibilities, but yes exactly.
different-church-lady
@Baud:
“X” is like a restaurant that changed names four years and the temporary banner still hanging over the old sign has been there so long that it’s starting to fray.
Gin & Tonic
@Baud: When did he make it all the way up to B-list?
David 🏀Caitlin Clark🏀 Koch
@different-church-lady:
True. Which is why I stick to Onlyfans
satby
@Baud: Hey, thanks to shitter, we can still enjoy lots of happy stuff too.
I follow Hoarse Whisperer, and he’s in a relationship with Valerie Bertanelli, and it’s just adorable. Plus, she has gorgeous cats.
JohnC
@Baud: Wasn’t it H.W. Bush, not Reagan, who used that phrase in a speech, his words fairly dripping with contempt?
(update) Yes, it was in his 1988 nomination acceptance:
“Employing a phrase resonant with one used by the notorious Senator Joseph McCarthy, he called Dukakis a “card-carrying member of the ACLU” (a statement Dukakis himself had made in a magazine interview the previous year). The ACLU decided to use Bush’s attack as a public relations opportunity.”
Card carrying members of the ACLU, 1988
sab
@Baud: Yikes. same guy probably. No wonder I mostly forgot his existence.
zhena gogolia
@different-church-lady: Exactly.
zhena gogolia
@satby: Oh, wow, she wouldn’t say who it was in People magazine.
zhena gogolia
@sab: He’s the one who claimed Maxine Waters beat him up.
Baud
@JohnC:
Oh, you’re correct.
K-Mo
I don’t know who Michael Tracy is but they should hire an editor to pull back dumb stuff before they post it.
different-church-lady
@K-Mo:
That would defeat the whole point of being on Twitter.
TBone
@satby: how do you like that? I learn something new here every day! 😍😁
satby
@zhena gogolia: He just posted a pic of the two of them, but she’s been retweeting some of his substack stuff for a while. Two great people who’ve had some tough times finding each other.
Plus on Twitter, that guy who saves street dogs in Thailand, those videos will renew your faith in humanity.
Edit: fu autocorrect x2
brendancalling
Not gonna lie, if I had the opportunity to tear out Michael Tracey’s trachea and pulmonary system with my bare hands and replace them with a vacuum hose and two dog-poop collection bags, and then use him as a ventriloquist dummy that disavows everything he’s ever said, I would totally do that even if it meant going to jail.
sab
@zhena gogolia: OHHH! That twerpy nitwit.
ETA Reminds me of the nursing home personnel who said my 99 yo deaf blind dad too weak to stand was a threat to them.
On the other hand, I wouldn’t want to get on the receiving side of a Maxine Waters tongue lashing.
M31
is Michael Tracey the one who fucks goats? or is that the other one, can’t remember my douchebag lineup
inquiring minds, &c
JPL
@satby: whoa! I did not know that. Since I left twitter, I lost track of him.
also Rep Luna said two more republicans were leaving after the vote on Ukraine. Has she identified them yet?
zhena gogolia
@satby: I’ve always liked her. Her son seems cool too — he was cute in the Oscars “Ken” number.
Poe Larity
I still haven’t gotten my Antifa card, while AARP sends me one every week and I’m not even retired.
zhena gogolia
@M31: That was Mickey somebody.
zhena gogolia
@Poe Larity: You don’t have to be retired, just 50 or over. 😄
Baud
@zhena gogolia:
AA50+P didn’t poll as well in the focus group.
sab
@satby: I hope it goes well. I like the both of them from the distance of online. Her especially because she is cool and sophisticated west coaster but she likes my midwestern home town.
Jay
@K-Mo:
Michael Tracy is the dirt bag who spent a month wandering around Poland, filming NATO and Polish military bases, accosting soldiers on the street, trying to “prove” that NATO was going to invade ruZZia after staging a false flag and that NATO troops were already fighting in Ukraine.
Anoniminous
@JPL:
Two more or the two we already knew were resigning?
different-church-lady
@M31:
I don’t think he is, but I just want to hear him deny it.
Tony Jay
Is Mick ‘The Dick’ Tracey really playing the ‘limousine liberal’ card against Jose Andres? Like, WTF? Of course he goes to fancy NGO award parties where they serve great food. He’s a celebrity fucking Chef who feeds people in need while dragging eyeballs towards the reasons they need feeding. Should he be turning up his nose at all those networking opportunities and instead serve the public by prowling around Ukranian border posts complaining about the rudeness of putting fences around those things?
Profiles in slurrage.
comrade scotts agenda of rage
@brendancalling:
Better yet, make it a PPV event. I’d gladly pony up the $29.95 to watch.
sab
@Poe Larity: The older you get the more you will like AARP and the more you will roll your eyes at idealistic kids reinventing the protest wheel. This time it will work!
I am absolutely not sneering at the kids. Their hopefulness makes me sad and weary.But they do move things forward some generation.
satby
@zhena gogolia: She’s not that much younger than me, but I feel like I watched her grow up. And I subscribed to Hoarse’s substack when he quit his job to write full time. I’m not much of a celeb follower, but other people’s happiness makes me happy.
oklahomo
I wish I could believe in an ironic hell because for that tweet Tracey deserves the fate of Tantalus.
satby
@brendancalling: I’ll light a candle that you get the chance. No jury in the world familiar with him would convict.
Tony Jay
@M31:
No, no, no. He’s the one who smokes Ethiopian cigarillos laced with eel venom and rubs menthol gel onto his nipples while watching other people fuck goats.
Probably.
MagdaInBlack
@zhena gogolia: I saw that article too ( because I love that stuff) but did not glom on to who it was. Interesting !
sab
@satby: I am a tad jealous because both of my husbands had huge crushes on her: the adorable brunette of the slightly younger generation.
WaterGirl
@JPL:
satby
@different-church-lady: Mickey Kaus, IIRC
Former editor of something.
rmjohnston
@rmjohnston:
WCK, of course.
Ken
@Tony Jay: And that’s your weekly reminder that Tony Jay, having observed the British political classes at close range, will always be better at coming up with outré sexual perversions.
zhena gogolia
@Ken: True.
MagdaInBlack
@sab: My husband too.
satby
@MagdaInBlack: @sab: Twitter link from yesterday.
laura
@satby: Same here. Roadie Brother the Younger adores her. Her son and his band were on tour for much of last year and he is held in high regard. I really appreciate her feller when he’s writing about his son and how fully present he tries to be in parenting- they appear to have that in common. I also appreciate his recommendations – Danielle Ponder is at the top of that list. I hope those two really enjoy their time together- long distance relationships are hard.
JPL
@Anoniminous: She stated that two more besides the ones that already resigned. She tends to make up her own reality.
MagdaInBlack
@satby: I just read his substack on it. He’s hilarious about it.
JPL
@WaterGirl: aww Now we have to wait for the motion to vacate. Honestly, she does seem nicer than MTG though.
low bar
zhena gogolia
@satby: Very sweet.
sab
@MagdaInBlack: Also too my law school boyfriend. Every siginificant male of my adult life had a crush on her. And other than being brunette I never came even close to being that pretty. And she seemed to have a great personality, so I can’t blame them.
Tony Jay
@Ken:
I’m sorry? Perversions? My dear sweet soul, those are mere ten-a-penny Sunday afternoon diversions that barely stir a flicker in the Vicar’s ticker.
For your proper carnal outrage against God and all Her Saints one requires the freshly skinned pelt of an engorged Himalayan yeti, the key to the Archbishop of Canterbury’s third-best bathroom and a run-up of no fewer than fifty standard paces.
Oh, and really good aim.
brendancalling
@satby: That is ADORABLE! So nice to see one of ours make good!
satby
@brendancalling: wait, one of ours??
brendancalling
@laura: That tends to happen when your dad is Eddia van Halen.
M31
@Tony Jay: lolol
nothing like a fading empire, generations of inbred aristocrats, and a starchy diet to really fuel perversion
brendancalling
@satby: Wasn’t he a commenter here a million years ago? Or was that over at LGM? Either way, I meant it in the general “he’s lefty” sense, but yeah—I could swear i recall him fro the lefty blogosphere.
Rich2506
Heh! Michael Tracey was posting a few items that I agreed with. I was concerned that I’d have to reassess him. Ha! No need! He’s as thick-skulled as ever!
satby
@brendancalling: maybe, but if so I don’t remember under what nym.
He’s a good guy for sure.
Subsole
@sab: He was the obnoxious Lenintarian whomst Maxine Waters decapitated with a flying dragon kick on live teevee, back in 2017, I think?
Subsole
@Urza: Mandelbrot’s brainworms are a hell of a drug…
Shakti
I want to kick this smug jackass in the teeth and make him floss with the remainder with his horrid wig while he chokes down a puree of well done, over priced ice cold Steak Diane, five ways, while his shredded esophagus is on fire.
“Let people who are refugees eat MREs like the soldiers they aren’t, they don’t deserve decent or hot food, Andres is not ‘nice’, how dare he talk about food with passion like he’s a James Beard awardee he is, it’s performative, I’m mad Jeff Bezos gave him money, implying Andres is grifting with no evidence, blah blah wine fart”
And this Tracey fool calling that an “NGO dinner complex” while he slobbers all over the military industrial complex. Go fellate Boeing’s misplaced gremlin bolts and phantom wrenches, you wingnut welfare schmuck.
sab
Various “he’s” here in the comments. One he is Michael Tracey who harrassed Maxine Waters. Other is Hoarse Whisperer involved with Valerie Bertinelli. Keep those two straight. One is not like the other.
Frankensteinbeck
@WaterGirl:
There is no way that’s true, but wow, I wish it was.
Anyway
@zhena gogolia:
We knew you get dead-tree NYT but People too?
ETA When I spot it at the grocery store I don’t recognize anyone on the cover anymore
Juju
I’m late to this, but all I have to say is shut up Butter Goblin and news max guy.
wjca
The great thing about BJ: you can casually mention being part of a ménage à trois, and nobody bats an eye. ;-)
Anyway
Is Hoarse Whisperer a “good” lefty blogger? I’m guessing he’s not MAGGot
sab
@wjca: Menage a quatre: Me, her two boyfriends.
Or menage a cinq. Her me and her boyfriend and my two. Plus I had a previous.
This is starting to get kinky, offensive and very unrealistic.
satby
@Anyway: not a blogger. On Twitter, see link above (at #62), and has a substack.
Melancholy Jaques
@Baud:
Matthew Yglesias’s motto.
wjca
@sab: Hey, I’ve known a couple of ménage à trois that rocked along happily for decades. Nothing outre there.
It’s when you get to 4 that things get problematic fast. The longest lasting of those dissolved in bad feelings in under 2 years.
Sister Golden Bear
@Anyway: Definitely not.
Melancholy Jaques
Apparently Michael Tracey doesn’t know that we don’t carry cards any more. We all got chips installed by Bill Gates when we got our COVID vaccines.
Chris Johnson
Vaush debated Michael Tracey and insisted he was parroting Russian talking points, which of course he was. Quite a blowout. If you need to see Michael Tracey being flustered and humiliated for two hours this is a way to do it :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Xo_457Jtlk
It’s a good window on how people get media training to be vatniks and gish gallop at people and manipulate the audience. I doubt they just all arrive at it naturally, there’s gotta be a school :)
dnfree
@Baud: I had an ACLU membership card at the time!
different-church-lady
@sab: Well, it started off that way too.
Anyway
@Sister Golden Bear:
How’s the shoulder?
zhena gogolia
@Anyway: People is about the only one I read now. It never annoys me, unlike NYT, Wapo, New Yorker, etc.
varmintito
Wow, Michael Tracy is a real sack of shit.
Lyrebird
Small heart, narrow vision, giant greed for attention, microscopic concern for any other human beings.
BTW in case it makes you laugh – we all need a laugh I figure:
I was really confused and glad you put the snark tag on because I thought you meant the basketball star Caitlin at first! Haven’t been following the tankies so closely. Tonight I will bless all their tooth-gnashing as long as they gddm stay out of the way.
I am farther left than 95% of my area, likely, but I was shocked when Michael T was all there showing pictures of sensitive military materiel in Poland, wth.
sab
@Sister Golden Bear: My dad died. He was her grandfather and a lovely person. We want her to come back to Ohio for the funeral. My sister in Massachusetts says yes please come. Me in Ohio thinks I love you and the family all loves you, but we cannot be sure asssholes in the transportation hubs will not be their asshole selves.
So what do we tell her: don’t come beacause it’s not a big deal, and come later for this summer when his 100th would have been. Or come now, because we love you and want you here. Or don’t come u til it is safer for you. This is an election year amd people are nuts.
CliosFanBoy
@sab:
Alas, my one chance at one fell through when the second young lady chickened out.
CliosFanBoy
@varmintito:
10 lbs in a 5 lb bag.
SiubhanDuinne
I am astonished that Ralph Nader is even still alive.
Denali5
Am I the only one having a hard time keeping people straight in this conversation? Wish people would use names instead of pronouns.
frosty
Bigfoot came almost an hour and a half later. So not a bigfoot, a little foot. Now I’ll go back and read the post.
cain
@Jay:
I’m sure a lot of farm animals were traumatized during that trip.
cain
@Tony Jay: we certainly agree that farm animals are involved in all his trips. Im glad giving his intelligence that they definitely fought back.
lowtechcyclist
@brendancalling:
If I were the sort who’d even consider doing something like that, I wouldn’t waste it on a two-bit dipshit like Tracey. Now J.D. Vance or Stephen Miller, that might be a different story.
Lyrebird
@sab: Sorry it came so quickly – even at 99.
My two cents fwiw is to ask her and say everything you just said: we love you, we want you here, we know it might not be safe or comfortable, we don’t want you hurt in any way, what would be best for you?
ETA: i might have misremembered, but the above assumes your niece is over 20 not a kid
Alex De
I had completely forgotten that toe-sucking Putin-fluffing clown Tracey even existed.
one of the best consequences of x/twitter’s swirling down the memory hole.
a thousand flouncing lurkers (was fidelio)
@sab: Michael Tracey was the guy lurking around weapons depots in Poland early in the Ukraine war, convinced the US government was up to something nefarious. He didn’t speak Polish & would not get a translator. Presumably because they had all been co-opted by Biden.
randy khan
I figure one of two things about the Michael Tracey claims about Andres and his security team are true. Either Tracey is lying about it or the security team kept him from going into a secured building where they were storing food or equipment.
I am confident that Andres has a significant ego and a very strong personality. You don’t do as well as he does in the restaurant business without both. But World Central Kitchen does an enormous amount of good, and Andres himself has gone and cooked for people in multiple locations where conditions were tough and even personally dangerous. Tracy wouldn’t do something like that if you paid him (assuming he even knows how to boil water).
Anne Laurie
Dead thread, but: Cole *has* gotten more conscientious about waiting a respectable amount of time before stomping posts. However, I still consider my evening posts as a very specific form of wellness check!
Mo MacArbie
Dead thread, but I cannot remain silent. Mickey Kaus blew the goats. I cannot believe how far this place has fallen.