Farage: I'm a British politician who scapegoats immigrants
Trump: Says who?
Farage: Poles. All of them. pic.twitter.com/SCnWABBzPM— Wyeth Ruthven (@wyethwire) August 25, 2016
UKIP founder Nigel Farage, the original “Mr. Brexit”. Per Politico:
… The former head of the United Kingdom Independence Party will not offer an endorsement of Trump, a source close to Farage said, but will instead offer remarks on how to beat the odds and win an election.
“It came about after his visit to the Cleveland convention,” the source said. “He’s not here to endorse Trump but explain the Brexit story which has similar parallels to the current presidential race — he is going to be talking to grassroots activists about Brexit.”
The Trump campaign did not respond to requests for comment.
Farage was already in Mississippi Wednesday morning, where he did an in-studio radio interview. The source close to him said he will attend a private reception with Trump and 600 Republican donors Wednesday, where he will also be joined by Aaron Banks, a friend of Farage’s and a multimillionaire who bankrolled the U.K. Independence Party…
“Donald Trump dares to talk about things other people want to brush under the carpet,” Farage said in a CNN interview last June. “I think for the United Kingdom, I think Trump will be better for us than Barack Obama’s been. Of that, there is no doubt.”…
Why is Trump in Mississippi tonight?
Think of his stops the way a teen thinks about life: The only goal is to get a lot of Instagram likes.
— Matt Fuller (@MEPFuller) August 24, 2016
To quote NYMag‘s Jon Chait, “There’s Just One Flaw in Donald Trump’s New Plan to Show He’s Not Racist“:
… The main difficulty Trump faces in dispelling the impression that he is a racist is that Trump is, in fact, a gigantic racist. His first appearance in the New York Times came in the context of his being caught refusing to rent apartments to African-Americans. A former Trump employee has detailed a series of private racist statements and acts — saying “laziness is a trait in blacks,” objecting to black people working for him in accounting, his staff shooing black people off the casino floor when he arrived. Trump has replied that the comments were “probably true,” but berated the person who made them as a “loser.” He has questioned the legitimacy of President Obama’s birth certificate, called him a “terrible student,” and implied he only made it into Harvard Law School due to affirmative action…
Wait until Putin appears with Trump in Georgia.
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) August 25, 2016
Baud
Trump: North Korea is the best Korea.
dmsilev
The one on the Gulf of Mexico, or the one in Central Asia? Because, the way things are going, either is equally likely.
Betty Cracker
Rachel is interviewing Kellyanne Conway. Very polite so far. I hope she doesn’t let Conway slither away from the tough questions!
SiubhanDuinne
Seriously, how many people in Mississippi even know who Nigel Farage even is?
Buffalo Rude
So fuckstick is gonna be in the heart of the Confederacy, for some reason other than needing their votes and FSM knows that Mississippi ain’t a fundraising bag of gold, and appear with the guy who engineered the UK’s upcoming political disunion?
Nothing weird is going on here. Nope.
hovercraft
Trump tonight “Hillary Clinton is a bigot, who sees people of color only as votes not as human beings worthy of a future.” Projection much?
Major Major Major Major
Good news, everyone! I have mites. Ever since I took the new job (which is up in the foothills of the coastal range) I’ve been bringing them home, they think. So some basic miticide treatment, and using a spritzer with rubbing alcohol on my stuff when I get home every day, and I’m good! I don’t have to burn everything I own and become a monk.
Emma
Oh dear. This will not end well. I foresee a lovely Hillz ad in the near future.
Roger Moore
@dmsilev:
Georgia is on the Atlantic coast, not the Gulf./pedant
SiubhanDuinne
@dmsilev:
Georgia (the state) does not touch the Gulf of Mexico.
That could change in the next few years with climate change and rising sea levels, but at the moment we have the Florida panhandle between us and the GoM.
SiubhanDuinne
@Roger Moore:
You are too quick for me!
Schlemazel
@Major Major Major Major:
seems a mite strange if you aske me
Baud
@Betty Cracker: Her style is to talk long and keep people from interrupting.
Betty Cracker
Well, good for Rachel…she isn’t going easy on the Trump flak.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
I guess that’s good, so congratulations, but it still makes me itch.
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: She and Conway are part of the same professional circles in NY. What do you think is going to happen?
amk
So, home grown racists aren’t cutting it any more?
Adam L Silverman
Now we know what Trump meant by the Mr. Brexit tweet last week.
satby
@Major Major Major Major: I can beat that, Bubba the boomerang pup gave the rest of them fleas. And the medicine doesn’t appear to be fully effective.
Baud
@Adam L Silverman: Hoping for mud wrestling.
Adam L Silverman
@Buffalo Rude: Haley Barbour’s son was quite confused by why he was coming to Mississippi as well.
Baud
@amk: So much for making things in America again.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: Or if they invade Florida and/or Alabama.
Betty Cracker
@Adam L Silverman: She’s totally nailing her to the wall. Ha!
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: @Schlemazel: This would be a strange mite:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkXAWPrSsEg
Hal
Oh Kelly Ann. You can’t slither away from a question by saying you can’t speak for Donald Trump. That’s your fucking job. Every terrible thing Trump says is excused as somehow not being racist, sexist, homophobic, or she can’t speak for Trump, but how about that email server! I think I’ll watch some golden girls reruns tonight instead.
debit
@satby: Oh no. Not in your new house?
Adam L Silverman
@Baud: No, no I’m not.
Major Major Major Major
@satby: Well, as I said the other day, I’d narrowed it down to either ‘invisible space bugs that can’t be seen and leave no traces other than bites’, or bed bugs that I couldn’t find the nest of. Today the bed bug dogs found nothing. So, between it being pigeon mite season and the new job, they figured, well, mites, I guess.
It actually is good news. This means it’s not cat-borne, it’s not reproducing, and I don’t have to burn everything I own.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Don’t be hatin’ on monks.
eclare
@SiubhanDuinne: I wondered that too. Very weird.
Felonius Monk
Anybody watching Bernie and his Our Revolution?
amk
@Baud: Ha.
Adam L Silverman
@Betty Cracker: She’s doing a good job. It could have gone either way. I’d like to see a question in regard to Mr. Conway, who was involved in the legal hunting of President Clinton. I’d also like to see a question to Conway about whether she’s really the campaign manager or if she’s really the pollster and PR flack acting as the beard to screen fire from whatever it is Bannon is doing.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman: Not a Maddow fan? I used to find her program boring with a capital B. She goes on and on and on…
redshirt
@amk: He’s bringing racists around the world together!
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: Who said I was hatin’ on monks? That’s something you chose to read into my statement, and that’s a statement about you, friend.
Davebo
It just gets better and better.
Trump goes to a state he’s already locked up and perhaps can cough up a 100k in contributions and then, just to top it off brings in a Brit no one has ever heard of to talk about a proposition no one really understands.
It’s not “Bernie goes to the Vatican” but it’s close.
divF
@Betty Cracker:
I’m on an airplane. If you could provide highlights at the end, it would be greatly appreciated, particularly with a side of Ms. Cracker spicy commentary.
Citizen_X
@Buffalo Rude: What’s weird? It’s perfectly natural: the guy who’s breaking up the United Kingdom is appearing in a state that tried to break up the United States.
jl
I heard that Trump was calling himself ‘Mr. Brexit’, which I found hard to believe. Seemed kind of odd, and most voters would ask themselves ‘Huh? What’s a Brexit?'” And too easy to turn into the taunt ‘Mr breaks it”. But I guess it is one of those right wing meme worship words. Kind of like Amerio or black helicopter.
But Trump with the ass Farage in Mississippe. Maybe Trump is thinking about another kind of Exit. Trump going late Aaron Burr? Who will be his Col. Wilkinson? Will there be TrumpBoats with TrumpMortars floating down some river, with arms merchant repo men chasing them down?
Does the typical voter even know who Farage is, or why his Brexit mess was such a big deal? Seriously, anyone know? Or are the ultra-Wingnut racists and xenophobes whispering in his ear that the masses have been yearning for this nonsense. And Trump believes it. And most people are wondering to themselves, WTF? Trump gets so into hard core wngnut arcana that most people stop paying attention? That won’t last. Trump won’t stand for it. Then look for the fourth campaign management team.
hovercraft
@Hal:
Rachel is very politely making her and her candidate look bad. She wants a focus on substance, but when asked the substance she fillibusters.
Davebo
FWIW, HIllary is spending too much on ad time in Texas. We’re still a decade out or so.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Betty Cracker:
Slithering is what Kellyanne does.
Schlemazel
@satby:
When we moved to Florida we learned about real fleas. They were monsters compared to anything I had seen before and the bites were really painful. I found out about them when one woke me in the middle of the night by taking a chunk out of my leg. Poor litty had to be dipped
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: I don’t like the act. The playing the naif. The pretending to not understand how any of this works. And I don’t like the facade. We have video evidence of her as the bartender/mixologist for the political and journalistic communities in NY and DC. There is watchable, observable documentation of her willingly, gladly, and enjoyably socializing with the people she is supposed to be covering. That’s an ethical problem.
And she’s done two very long opening leads (last night and last Friday night) that even though I knew exactly what she was talking about (Tanton’s activities last Friday and being quoted in Trump’s campaign ad and the quack researcher the Mercer’s are funding in Oregon last night) and I had a hard time following her. As someone who often speaks in tangents even I can’t stand how she does this.
hovercraft
@Felonius Monk:
Rachel trying to down Kellyanne is too much fun.
Schlemazel
@Davebo:
Meh, given the shitshow that is Drumpf it is sure worth a try. Imagine the world on 11/9 if Texas falls into the Clinton count! It is not like she has to spend money in traditional battleground states
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Baud: Being that 2 out 3 Mrs. Trumps were imported, he’s just doing what comes naturally.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Its also a coded allusion to pulling out of NAFTA and NATO.
Truegster
If the Orange Menace was really tough on crime, he’d invite the Philippines’ Duterte over.
Major Major Major Major
@Schlemazel: That seems to be the case for all fauna down there in America’s wang.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman: Our MSM bots are like the courtiers of Versailles.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: Don’t watch much TV, but when I tune in to her show, I get the same impression about half the time.
But on the other hand, that is US TV news. It’s a weird kind of boring reality show entertainment. Has to have some asinine gimmick to it. Just explaining what’s happening (aka ‘news’) doesn’t seem to cut it. But Maddow can do so much better, I can’t stand to watch when she trots out all of her tics. I can’t really ‘hatewatch’ her, hoping for a trainwreck like I do Matthews, or most of the others.
amk
@Truegster: 1900 killings so far. Filipinos must be so happy now after electing ‘he tells it like it is’.
hovercraft
@?BillinGlendaleCA:
Not today, she’s not. The coverage is unfair, because the media is making this a referendum on Donald.
schrodinger's cat
@Adam L Silverman: And then what? A grand alliance with Soviet Putin and Korean Kim?
schrodinger's cat
@jl: I like Laura Trevelyan of BBC, she is crisp and to the point.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Your comments certainly don’t make a young person thinking of a career in monkhood optimistic. Like it’s something you do to avoid mites. For shame! Think of the young monks.
?BillinGlendaleCA
I was just looking at some of the stuff they’re building here in LA. I see American, Chinese, and Korean(the lessor Korea, Baud) builders, but NOT the man who touts himself as the greatest builder. What’s the problem Donald? Still hurting over losing to a bunch of bureaucrats at the LAUSD*?
*The Donald wanted to build a project on the site of the old Ambassador Hotel and it failed miserably, there’s now several schools on the site.
Doug R
@dmsilev: Stalin was from Georgia.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks. I hadn’t thought of that. But that is, like I suggested and guessed, really far down into the hard core wingnut rabbit hole. Most people (even people like me, high toned BJ blog readers of the highest order) won’t get it. And after it is explained to them, they won’t be on board for all of the hidden message (at least not the NATO stuff).
What next, Tramp babbling about Ameros, sovereign Constitution, admiralty flags with fringes, and secret currency the US citizen slaves can’t use? I guess so with this crew of nutjobs whispering in his ear.
Davebo
@Schlemazel: She’ll carry Houston, DFW, San Antonio and Austin but it’s a big state with a shitload of morons.
jl
@schrodinger’s cat: I’ll take a look. thanks.
Anne Laurie
@amk:
It’s wink-wink-nudge outreach to his new “racialist” “alt-right” friends, e.g. the Breitbrat readership. Basically, somebody in the Trump campaign decided that if they can only get all the white voters, including the “secret Trump supporters” who are too shy or intimidated to admit to their snooty college-educated friends they’re nativist-curious… plus a selection of Those People who want to be admitted to the Trump Fan Club as tokens… they can still TOTALLY win this election, yessiree bob.
I need to do a longer post with all the links I’ve been saving, when I’m less busy/tired.
debit
@Davebo: That’s kind of how I feel about Minnesota these days.
James E Powell
@Adam L Silverman:
Same here. If she is the campaign manager, why is she always on TV talking loud and interrupting other people? Doesn’t she have work to do?
Keith P.
Is there any evidence that Steve Bannon is actually in charge of the Trump campaign? It’s starting to seem like he’s letting Conway run things for a while until Trump gets tired of losing (some more) and fires her so he can be in total control. Either that or he is just window dressing to cool down the Breitbarters.
divF
@schrodinger’s cat:
The courtiers of Versailles were more entertaining .
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: No no it’s something to do to avoid bed bugs.
Like kids who want to be monks need any more motivation than they already have. They get cool martial arts powers, all the booze they want, and awkward sexual tension with as many comely lasses as the story requires.
amk
@Davebo: They are for down tickets? Texas has the worst shitstains for congress critters that are worth replacing.
jl
@James E Powell: She is aTrumpaign manager. They don’t work like regular campaign managers. Lewandowski,as Trump’s body man and advance man in charge of chaos. Manafort was foreign policy advisor/double agent.
Trump thinks out of the box and his managers have to play unusual roles. It’s part of making America Great Again.
Edit: Actually, polluting the airwaves and creating as much confusion as possible may be their best hope until they figure out how to pivot towards enough sanity and non-swindle to have a chance of breaking 150 in the electoral college. Might be a crucial job for a campaign manager right now.
raven
@Adam L Silverman: I like her.
Anne Laurie
@Davebo:
I don’t think it’s about HRC “winning” Texas, it’s about depressing the GOP vote. Well, and encouraging new voters to register, so that they’ll be there to help turn Texas blue!
Schlemazel
@Davebo:
but if she doesn’t need to spend money ina place like Pennsylvania Texas is a fun place to toss it to. Particularly it the Drumpster fire back peddles on the wall and immigration so that lots of rednecks decide to stay home. In fact it would be smart of her to target those types with a message on his flip-flop
How great would it be if she could get a million of them to stay home in disgust on 11/8?
RedDirtGirl
Re-posting this from down below…
Eastern PA Balloon Juice working meet-up this Saturday, anyone?
I am going to go register voters for my Corporate Shill of a candidate.
Anyone want to do a last minute BJ meet-up/voter drive this Saturday?
I’ll be leaving from Brooklyn.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: LOL. Dang. Who wouldn’t want to be a monk?
hovercraft
@James E Powell:
Her job when she’s not with him whispering in his ear, is to go on TV and through her being such a reasonable sane sounding person, make her boss look good, and give the perception that she is working for a normal campaign.
amk
Twitter is all atwitter about how the wallers are threatening to do a 2nd amindmunt to donnie dick, courtesy glenn dick.
jl
@hovercraft:
” through her being such a reasonable sane sounding person, make her boss look good, and give the perception that she is working for a normal campaign. ”
Um… no.. that can’t be it. No way.
Edit: maybe you haven’t watched any of her clips?
Mai.naem.mobile
@Davebo: I don’t think she thinks they can win. I think she’s trying to get Trumpster to waste some money there and,hey,if her coattails gets a Dem House seat,thats one less seat Ryan has.
JMG
Conway’s been on TV since Monica. She’s an old hand hack getting a big payday (maybe, given Trump’s history) with no personal fallout if he loses. I used to like Maddow more, but now those six minutes open going nowhere are too much for me.
raven
Cleanup in aisle 79. Get that shit out of here.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: I think the major barrier to entry is that you still have to burn everything you own.
Meg
@Truegster: Wrong skin tone.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Or yourself. See, Vietnam.
jl
Donald Sump
Anne Laurie
@Keith P.:
I guaran-damn-tee you Bannon’s the guy who got Farage to stump for Trump. Which means sweet fvck-all to 99.9% of American voters, even the GOP voters, but he’s an IDOL of the “alt-right” Breitbart readership.
I have no idea if Trump’s figured it out or not, but “his” campaign staff seem to have decided they can’t win an actual plurality of American voters, so they’re going full White Heritage separatist. Maybe they honestly believe there’s a chance of winning with the “secret Trump voters” they’re talking up… or maybe they’re just realigning for Deadbeat Don’s ongoing career as a professional
grifterpolitical speaker-cum-analyst.Keith P.
@JMG: I’m kind of fed up with Trump surrogates answering questions about their candidate with shit like “the *real* question is why hasn’t Hillary given a press conference in X days” or any variation. Conway is at least answering *some* of them, but I still hate that dodge. CNN is turning into nothing but that.
Baud
@Keith P.: Agree. Everyone knows the real question is why Trump hasn’t released his taxes.
hovercraft
@jl:
This is what the talking heads have been telling me for the last week. It’s unpossible that they lied to me.
As far as I’m concerned she’s about as credible and smooth as the Granny Starver who the media tells us is just the most serious person in DC.
Cacti
We Brexited in 1776.
No advice necessary. ;-)
schrodinger's cat
@Baud: He is broke and in debt.
gogol's wife
@dmsilev:
I was gonna say, are we talking Gruziia?
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: or Muslims, if you’re Burmese.
chopper
@Major Major Major Major:
i’m still laughing at this.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
How are you feeling today? And are you, in fact, black and blue everywhere within an eight-inch radius of the incision?
Keith P.
@Baud: I know the taxes show some super-damaging shit because Trump would have otherwise leaked them and gone off on an IRS conspiracy theory (I still cannot get over the “Because I’m a strong Christian” line he gave…pure WTF)
jl
@hovercraft: I was joshing you. I knew you knew.
@Anne Laurie: Secret Team! Agenda 21! The missing gold! The Ilumiburgers! They’re making us eat Ilumiburgers! Soylent Orange! Yeah, those hard truths will energize the masses. Or make them think Trump is running a hoax as a promo for his next WWE appearance. I dunno.
Betty Cracker
@divF: Rachel nailed Conway about Trump’s shifty bullshit on the Muslim ban, trying to get her to admit that his new language around that is either a flip-flop or an attempted obfuscation. She scoffed at the notion that Trump’s vague expression of regret was in any way a valid apology to the specific people Trump has attacked, such as the Khans and Judge Curiel, noting how bizarre and unprecedented those attacks were.
She pretty much called the decision to hold a rally in MS political malpractice. She called bullshit on the excuses for not releasing the tax returns. She also pointed out that Trump’s doctor’s note was ridiculous, typo-ridden and not at all credible and said they should release real medical records. Overall, good job, Rachel!
schrodinger's cat
@jl: When the negotiations for the Iran deal were going on. Naftali Bennett (sp?) was making rounds of the news shows and spewing Netanyahu’s propaganda about how Obama can’t be trusted etc. Laura unlike the Giggle Sisters of the Snooze Hour, didn’t let him get away with his BS. And not one giggle or a smile even.
jl
@schrodinger’s cat:
” He is broke and in debt. ”
You should explain to Trump how a guy can make that work in favor of a campaign.
NorthLeft12
Advice from Mr. Farage to der Donald regarding election strategy; “Lie through your teeth and identify immigrants as the cause of most of the problems in the country.”
Trump; “Tell me something I don’t know.”
Major Major Major Major
@chopper: I don’t think you’re appreciating quite how horrified I am of bed bugs.
Baud
Good.
raven
@Betty Cracker: Oh come on, whine a bitch about Rachel will you?
jl
@Baud: At this rate, the conspiracy nut references and code talk is too obscure to do that. So HRC unfair, must retract this negative campaigning. But the general point is valid. I mean, the Trump campaign may return to English some day. So, I approve that HRC message, even if out of bounds in a technical sense.
Iowa Old Lady
@Major Major Major Major: I’m with you on that one. Yay for mites.
schrodinger's cat
@NorthLeft12: Heh good old Benjamin Franklin was blaming the German immigrants who were no good Catholic drunks for being responsible for everything awful in Pennsylvania..
JMG
CNN is as hooked on Trump as Fox. If he goes down in flames, their ratings go back to equal Willow (the cricket network) and horrible stupid human Jeff Zucker loses his job. They’ll come up with “evidence” Hillary DID kill Vince Foster if they have to.
schrodinger's cat
@raven: I heard that she is a big LBJ fan, Rachel not Betty.
*ducks
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: And this is where the willingness to be precise with language shows it’s importance. Someone who didn’t really car could have used bed bugs since they were insects in your bed. Bed bugs, mites? Whatever. There you’d be, in a monastery.
divF
@Betty Cracker: Thank you, Betty !
ETA: And it’s good to see Rachel hit this many points in a single interview.
Suzanne
Got in a minor car wreck today. No one was hurt. I’m just pissed because the other driver is denying she drifted into the suicide lane (didn’t signal), and I very clearly have a picture of my bumper, which fell off, directly in the middle of the suicide lane. She also approached a witness without an officer, who then proceeded to yell at me and disputed my version of the story, but then when the cop showed up, he then said, “Well, I didn’t actually see the collision. I turned toward it after I heard it.” The officer told the woman that if the collision had occurred the way she said, the damage would have been in a different location on her car, so THEN she said, “Well, I swerved into the suicide lane”, after denying being in it at all. LIES, and I will probably be the one found at fault.
jl
@schrodinger’s cat: They would never learn English, never adopt English civilized ways. Were starvation wage workaholics who would degrade good English manners and lifestyle. And the women were not ‘lookers’, if i may be so crude as to bring up one of his less public gripes about them.
redshirt
@Anne Laurie: I’m of the mindset that the Trump campaign says what they believe. Even if it seems ludicrous/preposterous.
Remember that the far more grounded R-Money campaign was sincerely looney tunes. What does that tell you about Trump?
schrodinger's cat
@JMG: I know one person who watches Willow. She is the 80 year old MIL of husband kitteh’s friend in Connecticut, who visits every summer.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: you’re making it sound like being a monk is a bad thing. Think of the children!
schrodinger's cat
@jl: Plus they drank too much beer and ate sauerkraut.
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: also, you used the wrong “it’s” which is having a great affect on my level of amusement.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
It mite as well be Spring.
redshirt
@Suzanne: What’s a suicide lane?
schrodinger's cat
@Suzanne: Good to know that you are safe and sound. What is suicide lane?
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: I have no interest in being a monk. A Renaissance cardinal perhaps, but never a monk.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Joy Ann Reid is a much better interviewer. Ari Melber is a much better host too. As is Chris Hayes.
Adam L Silverman
@schrodinger’s cat: Who knows. I’m not sure he knows.
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
Oh, you are bad!
lamh36
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Any time one writes something like I did, fate causes one to fuck up something.
ETA: Get thee to a nunnery.
Adam L Silverman
@Doug R: He did the greatest pulled pork every year for the Communist Party picnics!
Suzanne
@redshirt: Suicide lanes are those lanes in the middle of traffic that we have for left turns and to sit in when you are making a left turn into a street. I was making a left from a driveway to pull into the suicide lane, and the other driver drifted into the lane rather than going straight. I had enough time to turn in front of her had she stayed in her lane. She is denying that the collision occurred there, even though I have photos of my bumper sitting in the suicide lane.
PhoenixRising
@Major Major Major Major: having a great affect.
You’re killing me. But at least you do t have bedbugs. Or lice. Mites are great. Congrats on that.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: He’s not talking to you or me or even mainstream Republicans. He’s speaking to the folks in the comments sections at Breitbart and Free Republic and Daily Stormer and Stormfront and National Review etc.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: Molotov made the best mixed drinks though.
Fair Economist
@Davebo:
Mississippi isn’t quite locked up. Along with South Carolina and Georgia, if Hillary can make significant inroads into white females and/or white college-educated voters, she can rather plausibly win the state. It’s probably the toughest of those three.
To be fair, Trump is at a strong advantage, and if he loses Mississippi he’ll probably have lost the election anyway, so it doesn’t make much sense to campaign there politically. However, if the goal is Trump TV or Trump.com, he has a lot of potential media consumers there.
jl
@lamh36: Hope they mess it up. So hilarious, will make for great HS civics lessons for the future. A little comedy gold to go with Schoolhouse Rock!
Major Major Major Major
@Adam L Silverman: what is it with all the “storm” stuff anyway?
Villago Delenda Est
@hovercraft: Everything, but everything Drumpf says about Clinton (either Hill or Bill) is projection.
Everything.
Adam L Silverman
@Keith P.: Conway is the beard. She’s out front, smiling, mentioning her four kids, being nice, and trying to humanize Trump. Bannon is as in charge as anyone would be. He and Stephen Miller (Senator Jeff Sessions’ Jeff Sessions and the ideologue behind Trumpism, such as it is) are the idea guys.
http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/06/stephen-miller-donald-trump-2016-policy-adviser-jeff-sessions-213992
Omnes Omnibus
@PhoenixRising: It is especially cutting since our original beef was over his insistence that affect and effect are interchangeable.
Jeffro
@hovercraft:
You’re giving him too much credit. It’s just straight up playground “I’m rubber, you’re glue” stuff.
Peale
@Fair Economist: he’s going there for a fundraiser. Since he didn’t do that in May, he might as well try now.
Villago Delenda Est
@Fair Economist:
DING DING DING DING DING
This is all about lining up the base to support Trump TV.
chopper
@Major Major Major Major:
I lived in new york for 10 years, trust me, i know that fear.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: Think of German Storm Troopers.
Fair Economist
@lamh36:
I can’t believe they are that messed up. Minnesota has a fully functional GOP party.
Adam L Silverman
@raven: Are you sure that’s not the medication talking?//
Seriously, I’ve know problem with that. She’s not for me. Schrodinger asked why, I answered. If she works for you, then that’s great.
Mnemosyne
Isn’t it pretty much an open secret that the the UKIP is funded by Russia?
I really hate Trump for making me feel like a fucking conspiracy theorist.
Villago Delenda Est
@Omnes Omnibus: A Cardinal with a harem.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: Yes. but that is not a great strategy for winning a general election. The mass of voters need to have at least a vague idea of what you are talking about.
But, great as a launching pad for Trump News Network….
But… going soft on Muslin ban and mass Hispanic expulsion would kill that deader than door nail…
So, Josh Marshall is correct, they are very stupid people who are completely confused and flailing incoherently, even by the standards of an obscure poorly educated small frightened mammal about to be eaten by a mean bird.
Adam L Silverman
@amk: Would you be so kind as to put that into English? Thanks!
Miss Bianca
@SiubhanDuinne: @Major Major Major Major:
Mite makes right.
schrodinger's cat
@jl: Oh and I forgot the best part, they were too swarthy for good old Benji.
Omnes Omnibus
@Villago Delenda Est: One would have had options.
Adam L Silverman
@raven: I don’t even know what amk has said. That’s some real frontier gibberish right there!
jl
@schrodinger’s cat: I was going to skip that part, out or respect for one of our greatest old dead white guys. But, his views did evolve as he got older.
Miss Bianca
@Suzanne: Oh, so sorry to hear this! Hope you are OK!
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne:
That sucks all the way around! Glad it was no worse, and hope you are unscathed.
PsiFighter37
@lamh36: Seems like that random dude managed to save the GOP’s bacon. Trump definitely won’t win Minnesota, but that would have depressed the hell out of downticket turnout.
Villago Delenda Est
@Anne Laurie: It’s like calling Hillary the “Angela Merkel of the United States”. Most Americans go “who?”, but the white supremacists know who she is…she’s one of the major villains of Europe, as far as they are concerned. He’s talking to the Stormfront assholes, the very heart of the alt-right.
redshirt
@Suzanne: As in, each direction of travel can use the lane to take lefts?
We’ve got a few of those in Maine! They’re exciting. Mainers are afraid of them.
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: Right? I sound like a loon when I talk to friends who don’t follow this stuff (or at least I did up until Manafort’s No Good Very Bad Week).
Adam L Silverman
@divF: I will say she did very good tonight.
jl
@Adam L Silverman: My guess is that the comment is a news brief, saying that gun nuts are so mad that their Great Trumpian hope going soft that they are threatening violence to his person should he go back on his promises to commit international human rights crimes as president of the United States. Or maybe because they will be upset just in case he stops lunaticking it on the campaign stump and ruins the fun…?
hovercraft
@jl:
How is this possible? Again Kellyanne just told me that they have a robust operation in all of the states, and they will be unveiling new target states after Labor Day. Do you think they know it’s just a couple of weeks away. I mean they have a lot of stuff slated to happen, he will be tied or ahead in the polls, new target states, lots of policy releases. Maybe they’re so busy with that stuff that they are missing deadlines.
These flacks are flailing, last night Boris Epstein was struggling to explain how the addition of 8 staffers justified the rent hike. He said they went from part of one floor to 3 floors, the important thing was not the number of people added, it was the extent of the campaign.
redshirt
@Villago Delenda Est: And all million of their votes!
What a moran. His entire campaign. The entire Republican establishment.
jl
@hovercraft: Some one needs to ask them point blank if they can count numbers and read a street map. And then give them a short quiz.
Suzanne
@redshirt: Yep. Thing is, you’re supposed to slow down and signal, and she did neither. She just drifted into the lane as I was pulling into it. I got the ticket because AZ state law says that you never have the right-of-way if you are turning left, but the cop said that the insurance company will sort out the percentage of blame for the collision, since the damage to her car backs up my version of events.
Emma
@Villago Delenda Est: Well, I’m not fond of Markel myself, but if I have to make a choice, better the German hardass than the English racist!
redshirt
@Fair Economist: Trump’s choices of states to campaign in is truly odd. He’s been to Maine twice recently. Why? We’re not rich, he’s not going to win the state – yes, he possibly theoretically might get 1 electoral vote because of Maine rules, but is even that worth it? And no, he’s not going to get it. R-Money didn’t. McCain didn’t. Why would Trump?
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: ooops!
Patricia Kayden
@Betty Cracker: Did she ask Kellyanne any tough questions? I must have missed them because all I saw was Rachel providing a platform for Kellyanne to spew attacks against Secretary Clinton.
redshirt
@Suzanne: Good luck and glad you’re OK.
I’m thinking we as Americans need to copy the Russians in this regard: Dash cams. It would solve a lot of insurance issues.
Omnes Omnibus
@redshirt: Places he can go and then make it home to New York to sleep.
Peale
@Fair Economist: I wonder. If trump wasn’t on the ballot, would it look like the mid term electorate for both parties (why bother to vote. She’ll win anyway). Since we know a lot of voters care little about their congressmen, crossing off the presidential election might be the best way to ensure the status quo.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: And it’s amazing how many other things you catch on tape! Cops, also too.
redshirt
@Emma: What’s wrong with Merkel? The Germans seem to like her well enough.
Adam L Silverman
@Omnes Omnibus: That was my understanding. They were explosive.
redshirt
@Omnes Omnibus: That’s probably the correct answer, but wow! What a way to run a campaign for President.
Davebo
@Schlemazel: I haven’t seen a single Trump ad but then I don’t think anyone else has either. (other than Fox free ads).
Adam L Silverman
@Major Major Major Major: Another NAZI allusion.
Omnes Omnibus
@Patricia Kayden: This is not a criticism (and I don’t watch MSNBC), but I am starting to feel like Maddow is becoming a sort of Rorschach test.
Villago Delenda Est
@Omnes Omnibus: And unleash unsupervised twitter storms.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: One of my favorite astronomical moments in recent memory are the videos of blase Russians barely looking at the meteor streaking across the sky. Thanks, Dash Cams!
One guy just sluggishly brought his visor down.
Emma
@redshirt: Merkel uses the EU to get the German banks out of their damn lousy investment decisions. I neither like her nor trust her, but, as I said, I rather deal with a hardass than a slimy racist.
Omnes Omnibus
@Adam L Silverman: They really lit you up.
Peale
@redshirt: on the right, well it’s her pledge to take in a million refugees (aka terrorists in cognitio). On the left, it’s her hard line against bailing out debt ridden Greece and Spain.
redshirt
@Peale: Both (German) sides then?
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
@chopper:
I lived in NYC for four years, but it was a long time ago (1965-69). I don’t remember having any horror of bed bugs (if I had thought about it, I probably would have), but to this day I remember in my nightmares the time that my husband picked up a couple of bundles of laundry — table linens and men’s shirts mostly, I think, starchy things anyhow — they were carefully parceled up in brown paper, and the minute we sliced open the tape, MILLIONS of cockroaches came streaming out and absolutely covered the nearest wall of our apartment. It was literally just black with roaches. Yuck. I still dream about that now and then, although it’s been half a century. (And it wasn’t the least bit soothing to be told that in New York, everybody, even Jackie Kennedy, has a roach problem. Like that’s supposed to make me feel upscale?)
Patricia Kayden
@amk: 1900 murders and most likely not all of the victims are drug dealers. Just awful.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: That’s what I was thinking of too! Well, not that guy, though.
Emma
@Omnes Omnibus: Thank you! I’m not the only one. I haven’t seen the segment but I’ve gotten three different versions of it.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Yes, I’ve posted the links here before to the reporting that indicates that Putin is overtly funding and supporting the French National Front and covertly funding and supporting all the other European neo-Nationalist, separatist, and largely neo-fascist parties and movements. He’s even got connections to the largest of the Texas secessionist movements, which considers itself part of the Texas GOP.
lamh36
I’m sorry, I turned to MSNBC and saw Glenn Beck…I had to double check I hadn’t clicked on Fox News, especially since I hid from tv guide…
Nope
redshirt
@SiubhanDuinne: That’s like out of a horror story. Terrifying.
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Yes.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Here you go!
Adam L Silverman
@jl: Okay. That makes sense since I’m watching Glenn Beck blather on O’Donnell’s show about it right now.
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne: @redshirt: Yeah, wow. Thank god for mites.
hovercraft
@Davebo:
There are a couple of anti Hillary ads running on msnbc, one is from the NRA and one is from a superpac. His ad buy was for FL, PA, OH, and I think IA.
Patricia Kayden
@Villago Delenda Est: I rather like Merkel although she has made a few controversial comments against multiculturalism. She’s a strong leader on a male dominated stage. Yet she holds her own.
Of course letting in so many Brown people into Germany has pissed off the White Supremacists. Good.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
That, to me, is one of the oddest things about his entire campaign. I don’t know if he’s ever slept on the road, but everything I’ve read indicates that he always tries to get back to Trump Tower (or maybe Mar-a-Lago) for any overnight rather than subject himself to a (gasp! shudder!) HOTEL.
If he, God forbid, were actually to win the election, would he take up residency in the White House? Or would he insist on moving the seat of government, at least the Executive Branch, to NYC or WPB? It is really bizarre.
redshirt
@SiubhanDuinne: I think he’s stayed in his Palm Beach place. I know (guess) only because I was right down the road.
Major Major Major Major
@SiubhanDuinne: The guy today said lots of hotels have bed bugs, so can you blame him?
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: During my clerkship, I worked in a fancy, marble-clad federal courthouse (It was the courthouse used in the movie Traffic). It had roach issues. When one came to work in the morning, there would be mirror polished floors with little dead roaches scattered about. Also, I learned that If I went into the basement to get a transcript, I needed to knock the accordion file upside down against the shelf to get the roaches out. Sorry for sharing.
hovercraft
@Emma:
Here’s the link judge for yourself.
SiubhanDuinne
@redshirt:
I have an irrational fear of brown paper to this day. Who knows what evil lurks within?
pat
@Patricia Kayden:
I was yelling at the TV SO ASK HER ABOUT THOSE THREE OR FOUR POLICY POINTS and she never did.
Sigh.
Adam L Silverman
@lamh36: Its actually been quite interesting.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Well, that’s disgusting, but at least your roaches were dead.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: That’s awesome!
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: And the NRA one was illegally filmed at Arlington National Cemetery. That’s a big no no.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Not the ones in the transcript files.
Peale
@SiubhanDuinne: in a late attempt to form that long awaited fusion ticket to put away that threat from Gary Johnson, she should offer him the Secretary of State position in her cabinet.
jibeaux
As open threads go, this is very on topic, so let me fix that.
In NC, there has been a coordinated effort by our fuckwit R state reps to toot their “increased education funding” horn. They’re using blatantly misleading advertising about teacher salaries that are systematically pissing off every teacher I know, and they’re all running the same script.
School starts Monday. Bus routes were “finalized” last week. What do I get today? An email saying that due to budget cuts, fourteen different routes for my son’s school (I have to think that’s most of them) are going to be double routes run by the same driver. They are more likely to arrive to school late in the morning and to homes late in the afternoon, and the situation is unlikely to change all year according to this email.
We are run by unadulterated fuckwits and in any other profession you’d be able to sue them for professional malpractice. I fantasize about November bringing a nice Taxi Driver-style cleansing rain that washes everyone with an R after their name out of Jones street and keeps carrying them until they get to Mississippi.
Mnemosyne
Yikes! There was an attempted robbery today at the pharmacy where my brother-in-law works. Nobody got hurt and only a cellphone was stolen, but it sounds like the robbers didn’t expect there to be so many employees in the store when they came in.
They were most likely after the opiates, but they were outnumbered by employees and took off again within 5 minutes.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Right? I’d nominate it for
“Russia.gif” but I already know there’s so many crazier examples that would win.
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne:
He usually comes back to the City, but when he can’t he overnights at one of his other properties. It’s been spun as he’s a good family man who wants to get back to his wife and son who generally don’t travel with him. I think that it’s his fear of germs that make him need to sleep in a bed that belongs to him and hasn’t been slept in by anyone but him and maybe his wife. I can’t imagine that they’re still sleeping together, but if they are mazel tov to her.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Purell wrestling?
SiubhanDuinne
@Major Major Major Major:
Yeah, but he lives in New York. I don’t care if it is Trump Tower, I guarantee there are roaches somewhere in his building and probably in his penthouse. They may be fairly well-behaved roaches, but he’s got ’em. Guar. An. Teed. (Especially with a kitchen and restaurant in the building. No way there aren’t roaches.)
Mnemosyne
OH, FFS. Can a front-pager release me from moderation for having the temerity to name the type of store my brother-in-law works in?
Peale
@Patricia Kayden: he never promised to go after drug dealers. Drug users were to be included in that 100,000. You know, the type of cleansing by the police that made Rio the clean streets capital of the world.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: ugh. I’ll let you know if it shows up as the “It Should Have Been a Defensive Gun Use” post of the day over at TTAG!
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: His are the biggest and classiest. They are yuuuge.
SiubhanDuinne
@hovercraft:
HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHA!!
Okay, then.
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: According to the novel, and myth, don’t vampires have to sleep in the dirt from their own graves?
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: I already did and I replied to the comment.
redshirt
@jibeaux: The current NC Governor was down 7 in a poll I saw on TPM. Hope this issue helps bury him.
JGabriel
Bob Schooley via Anne Laurie @ Top:
It’ll never happen. Alabama maybe, but if Combover Caligula and Pootiekins agreed to meet in Georgia it would just end in confusion and frustration, with Putin waiting impatiently in the Georgian capital, and Trump’s campaign driving all over Atlanta while the Donald himself screams, “Where the fuck is Tblisi? Vlad said to fucking meet him there, but I can’t find it anywhere on this goddamn state map!”
Amir Khalid
US Soccer has suspended goalkeeper Hope Solo for six months over her derogatory comments about the Sweden side that defeated the USA in an Olympic quarterfinal. US Soccer has also terminated Solo’s national-team contract, ending her international career at 202 caps.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: Yes, but they can’t cross running water either. So that rules out a lot of campaign stops.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Gold-plated roaches. Like scarabs.
Suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne: There are roaches and mold and asbestos and all manner of crap.
redshirt
@JGabriel: LOL. The jokes, they write themselves.
Suzanne
@SiubhanDuinne: And rats. There are definitely rats.
Omnes Omnibus
@Amir Khalid: Damn.
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne:
It seems so fitting.
hovercraft
@Adam L Silverman:
But liberals are the ones who have no respect for the military and our veterans.
They know that no ones going to do anything about it, so why wouldn’t they.
Maybe someone will ask Trump about what he thinks of the NRA trying to exploit our military dead at the Commander In Chief Forum being hosted by IAVA. He has to show up for that.
JGabriel
@redshirt:
I look forward to McCrory dropping another 10 points so we can describe the race as NC -17 for Republicans.
I am easily amused.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Oak Park, IL, if that helps. Like I said, we’re all happy that the robbers quickly figured out that they were going to get into a messy situation and pulled the plug.
Per my BIL, there was a bit of a Keystone Kops scenario when his boss tripped and fell while trying to run away, so that probably contributed to the mission being aborted. I picture it being something like the nuclear plant evacuation on “The Simpsons.”
ETA link
Omnes Omnibus
@Suzanne: But his rats are the size of cats.
SiubhanDuinne
@Suzanne:
Well, yeah, but we knew that the day he came down the escalator and announced.
Omnes Omnibus
@Omnes Omnibus: @SiubhanDuinne: You win.
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
Whoa. My home town, born and raised. That’s disturbing, to say the least.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: Just glad everyone is okay. I’ll let you know if they post something.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
Not a contest. Never a contest with you.
Adam L Silverman
@SiubhanDuinne: And alligators in the sewers!
amk
Josh Barro Verified account @jbarro 49m49 minutes ago
Hilarious. Trump setting his immigration policy by applause-o-meter at his town hall.
hovercraft
@SiubhanDuinne:
And rats and mice. Though the higher you go up in a building the less you see. But since the duct work is throughout the building they are still there. If they get hungry enough they will make their way up. Kelly Rippa has discussed her infestations a couple of times on air. It’s part of the NYC charm.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Nevertheless, I withdraw from the field on this one.
redshirt
I once walked back from a jazz club in NYC at like 4AM and had to rub my eyes as it appeared the sidewalk was moving. And it was! Thousands of rats streaming over a dumpster/nook of a building. Never seen anything like it since.
Mnemosyne
@SiubhanDuinne:
The DEA has seriously cracked down on prescription opiate abuse, so that’s probably what they were after. Fortunately, they keep more employees around per shift than the big box stores do.
smintheus
Farage again? That should help with Trump’s ongoing outreach to Polish and Ukrainian-American voters in the midwest. Maybe Trump should just bring Putin along on a campaign swing to remind voters exactly where he stands.
Mnemosyne
@Adam L Silverman:
Weird as it sounds, I’m glad the robbers seem to have been professionals. They were more interested in getting away than in hurting anyone.
lamh36
@Adam L Silverman: I just can’t do it.
My theory is we lose memory brain cells as we get older, faster than we an create them. So for every bit of the new one we are able to obtain, it replaces some of the old stuff..and I refuse to have the old good things replaced by the crap that happens on Fox News or any of the stupid shit they spew daily.
I refuse to even hear their voices…I rather not waste the cells I have left on any of em…lol
Major Major Major Major
@Mnemosyne: That’s not weird at all. More people should treat property crime as a transaction.
CaseyL
@Amir Khalid: She’s supposed to be a great player, but she comes across as a louse of a human being.
Amir Khalid
@Omnes Omnibus:
The way US Soccer’s president described it, Solo was already on a final warning over her conduct,
Emma
@hovercraft: Thank you, I’ll do that tomorrow. I’m winding down to sleep and don’t want to wind up again.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: That kind of professionalism and work ethic is rare these days!
Mnemosyne
@Major Major Major Major:
Yeah, but you never know what some asshole is going to do once you put a gun in his hand, and that goes for both sides of the transaction.
hovercraft
@Amir Khalid:
Good, between her and Lochte, they lived up to every ugly American stereotype.
SiubhanDuinne
@Omnes Omnibus:
You are a gracious and kindly person.
jibeaux
@redshirt: Yes, I saw it too and did a little happy dance. He really is phenomenally bad. In addition to shitty policies, he just has a crappy personality, with this wafer thin skin that means he has to bristle at any criticism and he just is all around not very bright and not very charismatic. I think he’s probably going down. The problem is that because of redistricting and gerrymandering, there is a veto-proof majority in the legislature. A Dem governor and a R legislature that doesn’t have enough to be veto-proof is really the best we can hope for.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Especially employees. If you’re working at a 7-11, what do you care if someone robs the store?
That is of course unless 7-11 Management holds the employee responsible and docks their pay. But that would be crazy. Right?…
amk
@Amir Khalid: good riddance.
Omnes Omnibus
@SiubhanDuinne: Opinions differ.
hovercraft
@redshirt:
Back during my misspent youth when I went clubbing down in the Village, we always parked by Washington Sq, Park, and when we came back to the car in the wee hours there was always a full on rat rave going on, so gross.
Amir Khalid
@Anne Laurie:
What does that word “racialist” mean? I first came across it at school, when an exchange student from North Carolina told me his dad was not a “racist” but a “racialist”.
Mnemosyne
@hovercraft:
I had to look it up: Michael Phelps is a year younger than Lochte, and yet is about a dozen years more mature even with the pot habit.
lamh36
@Amir Khalid: Right…less people forget…she’s been over the line since this…
Inside Hope Solo’s domestic violence case
I think she’s horrible, and if she had been a guy, she’d be more vilified, and rightly so…IMHO
redshirt
@jibeaux: Maybe the Donald can help clear up that problem for the good folks in NC.
Emma
@Adam L Silverman: In one of my favorite series (Chelsea Quinn Yarbro’s Saint Germain stories) he lines the soles of his boots with it. Allows him to move around during the day. And there’s always some carried about. Trump’s as lousy a vampire as he is at anything else.
Major Major Major Major
@Amir Khalid: same as ‘race realist’. Somebody who acknowledges that race is a thing and that innate racial differences might exist, are worth exploring, etc., as opposed to the straw-man PC libtard scientist in their head who doesn’t believe in such fields of inquiry. At least, that’s how they couch it. It means ‘racist’.
Omnes Omnibus
@amk: Is there a better keeper on the US side? Solo is aging out, but she hasn’t been beaten out by anyone yet.
redshirt
@Mnemosyne: Pot wasn’t the problem for Phelps. It was alcohol.
Omnes Omnibus
@efgoldman: Mostly?
Major Major Major Major
@efgoldman: I’ll bet the cardinals totally had bed bugs.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Adam L Silverman: I speak frontier gibberish, he sez that if Trump backs away from his pledge to build the wall his supporters will come after him with Glenn Beck leading the charge.
Jeffro
@Amir Khalid:
not a whole lot of tissues being used up tonight over this…GK play on the USWNT should improve, morale definitely will
SiubhanDuinne
@Mnemosyne:
Just glad it was no worse. Scary stuff for your BIL for sure.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@jl: I see you speak frontier gibberish as well.
Suzanne
@Omnes Omnibus: Perhaps the thing I detest most about Trump is that he develops ugly buildings.
Developers.
The WORST.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: Yeah but Holy bugs. God ordained.
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
That is the actual derivation of the word “nepotism”: the cardinals and Popes always had a lot of “nephews” (bastards) that they were seeking lucrative but undemanding jobs for.
SiubhanDuinne
Halp halp, I’m being moderated against my will.
GregB
Trump just said Hillary and the Democrats give African-American’s nothing? Isn’t that counter to 50 years of rightwing rhetoric about the Democrats giving poor black folks everything? The Nanny, cradle to grave welfare state Santa Claus gravy train?
Shut the fuck up Donnie!
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: If they did, they would just move to a different palace while the infested one is burnt and rebuilt in the current style. Doing them a favor, even.
redshirt
@GregB: “Obama-Phones”.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: I put a dashcam on my car a few months ago, it also has collision avoidance.
redshirt
@?BillinGlendaleCA: Get any cool footage yet?
burnspbesq
@Adam L Silverman:
There is some real naivete on display here. In your 99 and 44/100 percent pure parallel universe, how do journalists develop sources, if not by socializing with them?
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: The bed bug guy today told me a hotel story where this important dude kept complaining his room had bed bugs so they kept moving him around. It was, of course, the guy who had bed bugs, and that’s how the Four Seasons got bed bugs.
Adam L Silverman
@Emma: Have you read Anno Dracula and The Bloody Red Baron? If not I highly recommend them.
Omnes Omnibus
@Major Major Major Major: More palaces updated. Dude, you need to understand how much money a cardinal had.
Omnes Omnibus
@burnspbesq: Ask I. F. Stone.
redshirt
@Major Major Major Major: So how does a person travel with bed bugs? I assume you’re an expert by now. Are they in his clothes/belongings, or on his skin/hair?
Major Major Major Major
@Omnes Omnibus: Doesn’t matter. Our cardinal still had bed bugs everywhere he went ?
@redshirt: Eggs. They’re sticky.
pseudonymous in nc
–pitch himself to the Breitbard wing of wingnut welfare. And to not be in the UK when the shit from Brexit starts raining down. More money to be grubbed in America, the fucker.
Peale
@redshirt:
I believe that mites are the holy ones:
21 And he looked up, and saw the rich men casting their gifts into the treasury.
2 And he saw also a certain poor widow casting in thither two mites.
3 And he said, Of a truth I say unto you, that this poor widow hath cast in more than they all:
4 For all these have of their abundance cast in unto the offerings of God: but she of her penury hath cast in all the living that she had.
KS in MA
@Suzanne: Glad nobody got hurt. Your insurance company’s lawyer should be able to slice her lawyer into tiny little bits.
JR in WV
@schrodinger’s cat:
I’ve always respected the accomplishments of LBJ as far as Medicare, the Civil Rights Act, and the Voting Rights Act. Then recently I read a history book about Dallas TX from 1960-1963. Crazed racists, on a par with or worse than any still ranting about the race mixers.
In that book, I learned that Medicare was voted on and lost by a few votes long before LBJ took office after Jack Kennedy was shot. And JFK was working on civil rights too. So LBJ was able to use the hateful assassination in Dallas as a lever to get more Democratic senators, along with a few moderate Republicans to vote for Death Panel Medicare.
Seriously, they were ranting about Presidential Death Panels back in 1961 – and still beating the same crazy drumbeat. There was a cluster of hate-mongers competing with each other to make money off their hatred in Dallas.
Led by H L Hunt and the guy who owned the Dallas Morning News, with plenty of other wingnuts trying to become movers and shakers in a totally segregated city.
Interesting book, “Dallas, 1963” – we got it for $5, remaindered.
hovercraft
@efgoldman:
You must have missed the memo, after the Megan Kelly debate Fox became part of the MSM, that was out to get him. The only reason they still watch is because they are the most fair and balanced of the available options. Billo, Hannity, Greta and the morning crew are the only redeeming qualities of the network. When he loses he will say the biased media did him in and lump Fox in there with them, and lead the rats away to their new network.
redshirt
@JR in WV: Fuck LBJ?
redshirt
@hovercraft: Believe it or not, to the 27% Fox has been part of the Liberal Media for some time. I think since at least November 2008.
Major Major Major Major
@redshirt: There you go.
SiubhanDuinne
Is there a FP around (lookin’ at you, Adam) who could please release me from the holding cell between #288 and #289? Eternally grateful.
Yours etc.
JR in WV
@Major Major Major Major:
Hitler had stormtroopers, who helped enable his take over of a really badly suffering German state.
These guys want to use that powerful term, but know that it will make them the equivalent of the American Nazi Party, so they dance around it with storm this and storm that.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@Mnemosyne: Maybe it’s the pot?
Miss Bianca
@Omnes Omnibus: @Major Major Major Major:
Now with all this talk of bugs and Cardinals and monks and palaces and stuff, you’ve got me singing, “A Mite-y Fortress is Our God”.
I’ll see myself out.
Adam L Silverman
Shiny, new late evening open thread is up!
JR in WV
@Fair Economist:
Maybe the formal GOP just decided, let Trump’s people get him registered for the ballot, none of us give a flying F. And of course, no one in Trump’s employment bothered to even check.
Just WOW! Funny.
scav
I think the other thing Farage and Brexit bring Tump (beyond adding to the horn section of the dog whistle all Brass Orchestra for race, immigrants and international alliences) is a real live example of “Don’t Believe the Polls!” and the promised savior of the Uncounted Invisible Voter! They’re counting on the masses being clueless about the state of polling in both instances and the differences in numbers, but hey! probably not an unreasonable assumption to make about the base.
Major Major Major Major
@Miss Bianca: Well played.
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: You’re a gentleman among bros.
Emma
@Adam L Silverman: Thanks for the recs. I never read any Newman. I have a tendresse for the vampire as hero. (No, none of them sparkle, ugh). So it’s Saberhagen,especially The Holmes-Dracula File, Yarbro, and a few others.
?BillinGlendaleCA
@redshirt: Nope.
Omnes Omnibus
@scav: Okay, but what advantage does Trump garner?
Mnemosyne
@Emma:
I haven’t read those in years. I wonder if they hold up.
@Adam L Silverman:
I read Anno Dracula when it first came out, but I’ve mostly read Newman’s film criticism. His book about apocalypse movies is really good.
Emma
@Mnemosyne: I am wondering the same thing, actually.
Omnes Omnibus
@Miss Bianca: Good night.
redshirt
@scav: Assuming ignorance for the majority of people is a safe enough bet.
Don’t have scandals and don’t do anything terrible and you’re safe to run as Congressperson in most lesser populated districts. In higher population areas it will cost too much so unless you are $$$ you either have to sell out to some rich people/corporations, or fail.
Your choice.
hovercraft
@redshirt:
Joy Reid on O’Donnell tonight pointed out how much Trump has further scrambled this den of snakes, Glenn Beck and many liberals are now fighting on the same side calling Trump racist and calling his supporters dangerous loons who are being motivated by his dog whistles. Though Beck calling what Trump is doing dog whistles shows that Beck still hasn’t woken up, they are fog horns. He’s managed to expand the crazification factor beyond the 27% in some regards, but also forced many of the willfully blind to open their eyes.
JR in WV
@redshirt:
There’s a reason they’re called suicide lanes. The WV Turnpike used to be all 3 lanes, and either direction could use the middle one to pass a big line of trucks going up a hill. They did try to use yellow paint to keep down-hill drivers out of the suicide lane, but it was very dangerous.
Now it’s 4 lanes or more, mostly with a big jersey curb between N bound and S bound. It was really scary before.
Mnemosyne
@Emma:
Book twinsie! I tried to adapt Saberhagen’s The Dracula Tapes when I was getting my screenwriting MFA but never finished it. I think Francis Ford Coppola swiped a bunch of ideas from Saberhagen’s book for his Dracula movie, because Saberhagen wrote the official tie-in novelization. (That’s how you pay an author off without having to give them screen credit.)
Adam L Silverman
@Emma: I’ve only read these two, he’s done others. What he does is mash up the gothic stories. So in the first one, without giving it away, you’ve got Dracula in London – Van Helsing and the others failed, unlike in the Stoker novel. And, of course, you’ve got Jack the Ripper, but he’s now ripping vampires. All of the historic victims are there, but now they’ve been turned. And then you get cameos: Dr. Jekyll and Dr. Moreau consulting. All the different trans-Caucasian vampires. The Diogenes Club. The Limehouse Crime Ring – Fu Man Chu (the Si Fan), Colonel Moran, Bill Sykes from Oliver Twist, etc. The second one set during WW I is equally well done and has similar cameos and mashups.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: As I’ve indicated, I’m only read these two. I really enjoyed them and have reread them a few times.
scav
@Omnes Omnibus: Have you really seen him do much else than pander to and further rile up the existing base? So, my bet is more of the usual, with a token nod to not losing more peelaways and perhaps a veneer of his yuuuuuge international relationships with all the sexy politicians.
Mnemosyne
@Emma:
Anno Dracula is really fun because Newman takes his vast pop culture knowledge and mashes every known bit of vampire lore into his book. St. Germain turns up as a minor character. And there are even hopping vampires from Hong Kong, IIRC.
Adam L Silverman
@hovercraft: Beck can’t acknowledge dog whistles or it would require him to actually self examine his own words and deeds.
Omnes Omnibus
@scav: So, nothing.
Adam L Silverman
@Mnemosyne: The hopping vampire is the character from the Hong Kong kung fu vampire epic Mr. Vampire.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mr._Vampire
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JVsXKBOlkQk
I highly recommend it!
redshirt
@Adam L Silverman: I’m a firm believer in Slayerverse rules for vampires. For example The Master is a 1,000 years old or older, who knows. He’s old. And he’s sired thousands of vampires over the millennia. One of who was Darla, sired in Jamestown of all places. 1609.
Darla. Who sired Liam aka Angelus aka Angel. Who in turn sired Drusilla. Who then sired Spike.
You see, siring is how vampires preserve their genetic demonic line. Who doesn’t care for their family?
Buffy vampires are the best vampires.
Adam L Silverman
@redshirt: The whole siring thing, referred to as father in darkness or mother in darkness, is in the books.
scav
@Omnes Omnibus: This surprises you?
JR in WV
@redshirt:
I was once walking home when we still lived in town. they had recently torn down a feed store on a river bank, and the Health Dept had put poisoned bait out. I was jogging in cutoffs and sneakers, and the sidewalk, street and newly vacant lot were all completely covered with rats – Willard come to life!
I turned and ran the other way, went blocks out of the way to cross a different bridge. I was never gun-shy about rats before that. Now I don’t even like to see a dead one the cat killed.
John Weiss
Trumpism = Nihilism
Dat’s what’s going on Boys n’ Goils. In my not-so-humble opinion.
I think that’s the whole story.
Civilization is expensive. Nihilism is cheap in the short run.
Gods help me I know these assholes very well.
jw
Mnemosyne
@efgoldman:
Note that the word “nephew” was in quotes. It was a cover story. The Popes were actually promoting their own illegitimate sons.
JR in WV
@redshirt:
In belongings. They never “infest” people, just suck your blood!
They get into luggage, if you turn the lights on to go pee, for example. They are photo-phobic. We have traveled quite a bit, and never ran into them, so far!
redshirt
@JR in WV: Thank you. I’ve been traveling extensively this entire year and now I fret I have brought back bugs to my MOUNTAIN REDOUBT.
Amir Khalid
@Adam L Silverman:
I always hear that line as spoken by a six-year-old Drew Barrymore in E.T. The Extraterrestrial.
Anne Laurie
@Suzanne:
Thus, the (possibly urban-legend) stories about using rats to start arson fires.
Which was A Thing, in NYC, by the early 1970s. First I ever heard about it, since my father worked for the Port Authority, was his buddies “joking” about taking out the brand-new, deeply-loathed World Trade Center. Punchline was “… but where can we find a skydiving rat?”
And, yes, that flashed through my mind on 9/11/01: They found their rat(s)!
NotoriousJRT
@Adam L Silverman:
FWIW. I agree. Her sucking up to “Uncle” Pat Buchanon was a red flag at the beginning. It took me a while to catch on. The end came during panel discussions for primary nights. Going around Robin Hood’s barn ceased to be worthwhile for me.
Anne Laurie
@Amir Khalid:
It means they’re a racist without the courage of their convictions, but you already know that.
The gloss is that racialists are positive people who just want to self-segregate with people like themselves. Unlike those filthy uncouth racists, who just hate people who aren’t them. You know, racists like Louis Farrakhan or Al Sharpton or Barack Obama — take the racialists’ word, those are the real bad guys!
It also, in America at least, seems to be a way for the self-styled “upper class” racists to distinguish themselves from their slope-browed shock troops. Atticus Finch would’ve considered himself a racialist, I suspect. So your classmate may have been trying to signal his class status.
Anne Laurie
@scav:
True. It’ll provide great comfort to the Ron Fourniers of BothSides media — even though I suspect it’s waaay too sophisticated for the yahoos screaming TRUMP THAT BITCH at the rallies.
SFAW
@Omnes Omnibus:
In the Shakespearean sense, or the “religious” sense?
SFAW
@shomi:
Or, you could read it on Electoral-Vote.com, and get a fucking clue, rather than use your beautiful mind on yet another “I fucking hate Balloon Juice” comment.
Not clear whether you’re a moron, an asshole, or both.
ETA: As with the late, unlamented Reggie M., if you hate this place so fucking much, to the point of telling us all how fucking much you fucking hate this fucking site, why don’t you find somewhere else to annoy? Rhetorical question — no need to answer)
SFAW
@Anne Laurie:
Hell, Beavis and Butthead is way too sophisticated for those morons.
The Lodger
@Peale: 5 And the chief priests and the Levites said Dang, we’re gonna have to fumigate to get rid of these mites.
Brachiator
@scav:
And especially in the case of Farage, “Don’t believe the Poles!”
But I would not call any of this stuff dog whistling. It’s pretty blatant. But Trump has his opposition cowed.
Plantsmantx
@Anne Laurie: Yep. The alt-right movement isn’t just white nationalist, it’s white pan nationalist.
Groucho48
@Adam L Silverman:
I agree with a lot of that. However, I think she would really shine in a weekly show devoted to a long form story. Two long form stories if they tightly edited out all her repetitions. She really shines in that format.
She does ask tough questions in interviews but is way to hesitant about offending the interviewee. She has enough background research and smarts to nail phonies but hesitates to do so. She panics in breaking news segments. All doom and gloom.
Sadly, given all that, her hour is the best of the MSNBC evening lineup. Even more sadly, she could be one of the greats if she just dropped the polite school marm facade and went full bore gonzo.
Ian
@dmsilev:
As neither touches the golf of Mexico, and the one near Russia is part of Europe, I find this scenario impossible.
tybee
@Doug R:
so was lester maddox
1,000 Flouncing Lurkers (was fidelioscabinet)
@Major Major Major Major: You know, beekeepers threat mites by dusting the bees down with powdered sugar…