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Welcome to Washington

by DougJ|  February 28, 20103:42 pm| 45 Comments

This post is in: Good News For Conservatives, We Are All Mayans Now

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Steve Benen flags what he calls a “a surprisingly long chat about Desiree Rogers” on whatever Stuffy’s old Sunday morning is called now. Here’s a brief summary (I’m leaving out the parts where Cokie Roberts sounds reasonable because I don’t believe they’re real):

DONALDSON: People who work for the president understand or should understand their place, which is to be spear-carriers. There are two stars in anyone’s White House, the president and the president’s spouse. After that, this passion for anonymity that once was a hallmark of people who worked for a president, has been lost. She wanted to be a star herself…

[….]

KRUGMAN: Can I say that 20 million Americans unemployed, the fact that we’re worrying about the status of the White House social secretary…

VARGAS: It’s our light way to end, Paul.

DONALDSON: Paul, welcome to Washington.

It’s good to see Krugman call them on their bullshit. Along those lines, Michael Scherer deserves credit for this:

But change, as the Obamas have learned, does not become of Washington–whether one is talking about influence brokering or party planning. Rogers had come to make waves, she made waves, and then she got wiped out. If there is any consolation to this whole sorry tale, it is that the crooked viciousness of the social set does not spare anyone. Earlier this week, Sally Quinn lost her column in the Washington Post, after using it to write a particularly petty and catty piece about an internal squabble in her own family regarding wedding dates. The tall poppy tyranny plays no favorites, you see. Our nation’s capital is imbued with the same social silliness as a middle school. You can’t just walk in and sit at any lunch table you choose. If you do, they will find a way to get you.

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  1. 1.

    GregB

    February 28, 2010 at 3:45 pm

    Shorter Donaldson: President Obama is a spear-chucker.

  2. 2.

    licensed to kill time

    February 28, 2010 at 3:46 pm

    Can I just say that this bit has some rather unfortunate connotations?

    DONALDSON: People who work for the president understand or should understand their place, which is to be spear-carriers.

    Now I will read the rest of your post…

    ETA – of which 3/4 seems to have disappeared?

  3. 3.

    rikyrah

    February 28, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Krugman was on point…and his sentence sums up why the Village is full of idiots.

  4. 4.

    MikeJ

    February 28, 2010 at 3:48 pm

    Have none of you ever seen an opera? There’s nothing wrong with “spear carrier”.

  5. 5.

    AhabTRuler

    February 28, 2010 at 3:49 pm

    Can I just say that this bit has some rather unfortunate connotations?

    Unintended, no doubt. Say what you will about Sam the Eagle, but I don’t think he meant it that way.

  6. 6.

    Just Some Fuckhead

    February 28, 2010 at 3:50 pm

    Besides, everyone knows it’s “spearchuckers”.

  7. 7.

    mr. whipple

    February 28, 2010 at 3:53 pm

    KRUGMAN: Can I say that 20 million Americans unemployed, the fact that we’re worrying about the status of the White House social secretary…

    Now there’s 20,000,001 unemployed.

  8. 8.

    DougJ

    February 28, 2010 at 3:57 pm

    @licensed to kill time:

    I screwed up the original cut-and-paste.

  9. 9.

    mcc

    February 28, 2010 at 3:59 pm

    I’m just gonna say what I said in Benen’s thread– the really fascinating thing here is the weird distance in how Donaldson phrased it. Nothing I or anyone can do, this is just the way Washington is. Except wait a minute, Donaldson is part of Washington. If Washington is a certain way it’s because Sam Donaldson is a certain way.

    There seems to be this ongoing thing where DC people act like they’re powerless over the world they control. Or as in Donaldson’s case, powerless over his own actions. I had to have that conversation about the White House social secretary! Washington made me do it!

  10. 10.

    licensed to kill time

    February 28, 2010 at 4:03 pm

    @DougJ: And there I was thinking the brownies had kicked in awful fast ;-)

  11. 11.

    AhabTRuler

    February 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    There seems to be this ongoing thing where DC people act like they’re powerless over the world they control.

    Well, they only ever really talk about things that the people want to know, anyway.

  12. 12.

    CT Voter

    February 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    I hope Krugman is a regular on the show.

    If he is, I hope he manages to maintain his perspective. Won’t be easy, surrounded by all those pod people.

    And I’m disappointed that no one has managed to blame Rahm for this.

  13. 13.

    Cat Lady

    February 28, 2010 at 4:04 pm

    Michael Scherer calling out the Villagers – wasn’t he a McCain fluffer from way back? It must have been McCain not acknowledging him and Carney on the campaign plane that did it. He appears to read his commenters, too. Is our journamalists learning?

  14. 14.

    Alex S.

    February 28, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    I’m parallel-reading Frank Rich’s NYT column… those tea party guys have a point.

  15. 15.

    kay

    February 28, 2010 at 4:12 pm

    @Cat Lady:

    It reads weirdly personal. I’m not sure it’s about Rogers at all.
    Like everything they write, it’s about them.

  16. 16.

    Ash

    February 28, 2010 at 4:13 pm

    Seriously though, who the fuck outside of D.C. cares about the social secretary? NO ONE.

  17. 17.

    eemom

    February 28, 2010 at 4:16 pm

    we can haz “who the fuck cares” tag, plz? kthxbai

  18. 18.

    PeakVT

    February 28, 2010 at 4:17 pm

    Paul, welcome to Washington.

    I wish I had a heavy bag, because right now I have the urge to punch something. Hard.

  19. 19.

    Cat Lady

    February 28, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    @kay:

    I agree – he’s obviously been left off the Heathers’ guest lists. Hell hath no fury like a Villager wannabe scorned.

  20. 20.

    CT Voter

    February 28, 2010 at 4:19 pm

    @kay: It sounds as if Michael Sherer really dislikes Sally Quinn:

    The Washington Post’s Sally Quinn, who has long exemplified the worst of the city’s sick aristocratic tribal culture, led the charge by calling for Rogers resignation.

  21. 21.

    Incertus (Brian)

    February 28, 2010 at 4:20 pm

    You know, I didn’t like this kind of high school bullshit (I was in Louisiana–we’re always a little behind the rest of the country) when I was in high school. I didn’t like it when it was reintroduced to me in graduate school–there was a group of fellow nerds who’d decided it was their turn to be the cool kids, believe it or not. So to say I have no patience for it in DC is to be kind. And yet there it is. Most days I wonder how we managed to get our shit together enough to discover fire, much less nuclear energy.

  22. 22.

    MikeJ

    February 28, 2010 at 4:30 pm

    Most days I wonder how we managed to get our shit together enough to discover fire,

    Trying to impress chicks.

  23. 23.

    Church Lady

    February 28, 2010 at 4:32 pm

    It will never dawn on anyone inside the beltway that those outside the beltway really, really don’t give two shits about their social mores.

  24. 24.

    bago

    February 28, 2010 at 4:45 pm

    @MikeJ: You have to admit that blowing shit up is its own reward. Impressing chicks is cool as well, but, uhh, FIRE!!!

  25. 25.

    bago

    February 28, 2010 at 4:50 pm

    @Church Lady: Seriously, DC is a pit of courtiers. I lived there for three months. It is considered rational for Boeing to make a 50k ad buy on the pentagon metro stating “We make good tankers”. That’s more than twelve thousand dollars per word, to influence a defense contract. And it’s worth it. That’s what is scary.

  26. 26.

    Bob K

    February 28, 2010 at 4:51 pm

    You know, I’ll bet that the 45,000 people that die every year from not having healthcare will RIP so much better knowing that even though the sheriff is a Ni**er, his people still can’t get too uppity or they’ll get taken down a notch. I really would like to see the return of Madame Guillotine.

  27. 27.

    Napoleon

    February 28, 2010 at 4:53 pm

    That quote from Michael Scherer is pretty good.

    @mcc:

    There seems to be this ongoing thing where DC people act like they’re powerless over the world they control.

    I saw someone use a phrase that they credited David Sirota (sp?) with the last few days that perfectly summed up that phenomia.

  28. 28.

    DougL (frmrly: Conservatively Liberal)

    February 28, 2010 at 4:55 pm

    @eemom:

    How about a “Who gives a flying fuck” tag. Maybe “We create reality so you can live it” ? Or even “Washington D.C. made me do it”. Of course we could go with “Show me on the doll where Washington D.C. touched you” if all else fails.

  29. 29.

    Napoleon

    February 28, 2010 at 4:57 pm

    @Napoleon:

    Duh I hit post before I proof read or completed my post. I can not think of the phrase. Does anyone know what I am talking about?

  30. 30.

    Citizen_X

    February 28, 2010 at 5:09 pm

    If he’s gonna be called K-thug, can he at least start decking some people? ‘Cause motherfuckers deserved it right there. “It’s our light way to end, Paul.” “Oh yeah?” BAM!

    (But seriously, he does deserve applause for calling them on the bullshit.)

  31. 31.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    February 28, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    I don’t even bother watching online anymore, I just go directly to this now.

    The best part this week was when Eric Cantor turned into a lizard.

  32. 32.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    February 28, 2010 at 5:18 pm

    @Napoleon: I don’t know but I actually liked “phenomia”.

    Like “my phenomenon” in Italian.

  33. 33.

    Napoleon

    February 28, 2010 at 5:22 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    I aim to please.

    I was going to finish the post then spell check, got distracted, and when I cam back to it just hit submit thinking I was done.

  34. 34.

    jenniebee

    February 28, 2010 at 5:34 pm

    Krugman also made some statements that BJ’ers might find unconvincing, or even delusional, about HCR:

    KRUGMAN: Catherine Rampell did a very good piece in the Times blogs recently which said that the main obstacle to the people who are uninsured is not that they are choosing not to be insured. It is income…. [Y]oung people who are not buying insurance because they’re not… able to afford it will be brought in through the subsidies. And that will end up being better even for the people who are currently insured.

    h/t Delong

  35. 35.

    Hann1bal

    February 28, 2010 at 5:47 pm

    I have to admit, I got this from Wait Wait, but why in the nine hells are we not calling the current host of “Good Morning America” Mr. Snuffleupagus?

  36. 36.

    Bill E Pilgrim

    February 28, 2010 at 5:49 pm

    @Hann1bal: He’s been called that in the blogo-orb for years.

  37. 37.

    PaulW

    February 28, 2010 at 5:53 pm

    These Sunday show talking heads need to be on the unemployment lines for a few months, maybe THEN they’ll understand the priorities (JOBS, JOBS, Health Care and JOBS) in this nation, instead of blathering this gossipy, who-hates-whom, middle-school level bullsh-t.

    It p-sses me off to no end that half these guys didn’t even get Journalism degrees and yet they’re treated as journalists.

  38. 38.

    Nellcote

    February 28, 2010 at 5:55 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim:

    I don’t even bother watching online anymore, I just go directly to this now.

    Bobblespeak needs to hack the chyron during the ‘Sunday in the Village’ shows. It might make them watchable.

  39. 39.

    MTiffany

    February 28, 2010 at 6:00 pm

    Our nation’s capital is imbued with the same social silliness as a middle school.

    Yes, middle schoolers with a multi-trillion-dollar credit card and nuclear fucking weapons.

  40. 40.

    ruemara

    February 28, 2010 at 6:16 pm

    meh. I’m gonna step on the soap box and speak for all Black Wimmens©.

    After a year of utter bullshit, all I’d do is outlast an egregious idiot-Sally “Upper Class Twit” Quinn, and move on to more lucrative opportunities, like the ones I left to help my friends out. IOW, fuck this bunch of losers, later B & M, we’ll always have Chicago, time to quit being hassled by losers. I just ain’t getting run out by these dickheads. Why, because I can’t slap a bitch in jesus’ name, amen.

  41. 41.

    cleek

    February 28, 2010 at 6:21 pm

    OT: i LOL’d when i read this headline @ MSNBC:

    Up-or-down vote sought on health care

    subtitled: “White House tries to get around Republican stalling tactics”

    looks like somebody in the Dems messaging machine at her Wheaties this morning! sweet!

  42. 42.

    Trinity

    February 28, 2010 at 7:20 pm

    I work in DC.

    My god I HATE The Villagers.

    /sigh

  43. 43.

    Hann1bal

    February 28, 2010 at 7:38 pm

    @Bill E Pilgrim: Hokay, then. I’m not always up on memes. Thanks for the tip.

  44. 44.

    Darkrose

    March 1, 2010 at 12:01 am

    @ruemara:

    meh. I’m gonna step on the soap box and speak for all Black Wimmens©.

    Yeah–this.

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