A fraction of the cameras outside the debates pic.twitter.com/4uWnbRrjUf
— daveweigel (@daveweigel) August 6, 2015
I decided, early this morning, to leave discussion of our history with the atomic bomb for the Nagasaki anniversary, because today we’re all in Blood Eagle Mode.
Guardian liveblogging continues here.
ETA:
The crowd goes wild at the sight of 10 middle-aged, white men wearing suits, distinguished by a diversity of haircuts. There’s a bald spot, curls, a few glossy sheens and shades of grey, and then whatever it is on Trump’s head.
Moderator Bret Baier dismisses the candidates to their podiums, observing that the having them stand next to each other for a photograph “was awkward enough”…
ETAA — ?!?:
He starts off with a question about whether anyone is willing to run a third-pary campaign if they don’t win the Republican nomination – Trump raises both his hands, alone, as the only person who might not endorse the eventual nominee.
“I cannot say I have to respect the person if it’s not me,” he says. “I can totally make the pledge if I am the nominee I will not run as an independent.”…
“Comms Director / Paul Ryan”:
Deeply dreading tonight.
— Brendan Buck (@BrendanBuck) August 6, 2015
The American people will never trust Washington DC. Except for the 17 of us who are desperate to move there. #GOPDebate
— Julia Azari (@julia_azari) August 6, 2015
To rephrase the @marthamaccallum question: "Wasn't Mitt Romney totally right when he was bitching and moaning about the 47%?"
— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) August 6, 2015
Debate rules!
- Adderall when Walker punches down
- Viagra when Christie laughs knowingly
- Meow meow when Trump mentions Cecil the Lion
— James Poulos (@jamespoulos) August 6, 2015
Here is an interesting GIF of Rick Santorum trying to make a point (via @RobTornoe) http://t.co/QUcznSRm14 #GOPdebate pic.twitter.com/7JdowjgrgC
— GQ Magazine (@GQMagazine) August 6, 2015
No Rick, I said go out there and be a master DEBATER. – will be the joke told one million times https://t.co/a0JmjLUR6P
— Bob Schooley (@Rschooley) August 6, 2015
raven
Ya’ll don’t know whether to shit or go blind.
Right to Rise
The Great Clearing begins!
Kropadope
I’m recording it now. Gotta wait for the roomie, cuz only want to watch it once.
Davebo
It seems Carly Fiorina “unleashed a can” earlier this evening per the token blonde moderator.
Did the can hurt anyone? I missed it.
SiubhanDuinne
Chris Wallace looks a little bit like Rick Perry’s older, smarter brother.
Anne Laurie
@raven: See Santorum gif, above.
JPL
@raven: I agree.. Since they are having a pissing contest on who gets to have to post, I might just sign off.
dumb, dumb
mdblanche
So how are we doing this? as many threads as candidates?
Anne Laurie
@SiubhanDuinne: I always think Chris Wallace looks like the guy in the next bed to Scott Walker at the stroke recovery facility.
Germy Shoemangler
@raven:
Guess I’ll wind my watch.
raven
Hell yes!
JPL
WTF
How much attention is everyone paying to this debate? According to Twitter, Senator Chuck Schumer, the New York Democrat, waited until the beginning of the debate to announce he is opposed to President Obama’s Iran deal.
PsiFighter37
Rand Paul trying to take down Donald and getting booed. LOL.
And now Ben Carson getting shat on by Kelly. Hating on the black man, of course.
raven
A Heart
Some Noive!
dmsilev
@mdblanche: That would break WordPress.
BillinGlendaleCA
@PsiFighter37: It is a Republican debate, it’s SOP.
mdblanche
@dmsilev: I thought WordPress is already broken.
And the moderators tell Rubio to attack Jeb!.
PsiFighter37
Rubio with a milquetoast response. Yawn.
BillinGlendaleCA
Ah good, they’re using that same damn bell, the cocker as already started barking.
Anne Laurie
@JPL: Wait’ll DougJ and the Merry DC Meetup Pranksters show up!
Nicole
Marco Rubio’s ears remind me of how much I love bats.
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: Did you think they’d have a different bell?
Jim, Foolish Literalist
What we have here, is a failure… to communicate!
I’m not watching but my longshot bet is that it’s Kasich who lands a punch on Trump. He’s combative without being as much of a blowhard as Christie.
@JPL: Fucker
JGabriel
Fox has made it nigh near impossible to watch the debate unless you have a cable login id. I don’t even have a TV set much less cable.
Fuckers.
What the hell ever happened to making sure political events were covered as a public service?
PsiFighter37
And the biggest applause line goes to slamming Rosie O’Donnell…jeez
Zinsky
Marco Rubio thinks he has a better understanding of what it means to be middle class. Bizarre.
dmsilev
Trump 1, Megan Kelley 0.
MomSense
Somehow I don’t think the Fox gotcha questions to Trump are working the way they hoped.
raven
Tough shit Megan!
Sm*t Cl*de
“With a strong right arm, and plenty of lube, no body cavity is out of reach.”
PsiFighter37
Trump disses Kelly. Hahaha. Love it.
gene108
Trump don’t care….SWEET!!!!
dmsilev
@MomSense: The pledge question at the beginning was hilarious. Couldn’t they game out what Trump would say?
Kropadope
@JPL:
He accomplishes two goals, please his AIPAC masters and hide this news from as many voters as possible. He voted for the Iraq War too, naturally.
Fuck Chuck Schumer, the Democrats’ resident cowardly warmonger.
ETA: At least Hillary is open about her hard on for war.
Jim, Foolish Literalist
@PsiFighter37: slightly less dated than Graham’s (apparently repeated?) reference to Bill Clinton’s dick
NonyNony
@JGabriel:
Well if it were actually a political event then, sure, covering it would be a public service.
This is just a Fox News reality TV show. Hell NOT letting people watch it is probably a public service.
SiubhanDuinne
If they imposed a “no hand gestures” rule, Trump would go mute.
raven
@NonyNony: I think it’s funny as shit.
mai naem mobile
Nathan Lane will play Ted Cruz in Game Change Bear Down.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: He may give em the bafungul soon!
Heliopause
Was Rosie O’Donnell in anybody’s drinking game?
jl
Jeb! has the political instincts and charm of moldy dog dump you step into while raking the leaves on a find autumn day.
Edit: I know how that feels dammit. The best I can do for a Cole naked moping story.
No, Jeb! the bar is not higher for you, you have managed to lower it, and not sure how much more slack you will get for what, by now, is the expectation for your future efforts.
PsiFighter37
Now Bret Baier shitting on Christie’s record. Did the moderators want to do the oppo research for the Clintons?
Christie blaming everything on his predecessors.
srv
sky news live stream
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mqafQVNkyN4&feature=youtu.be
raven
@jl: What does “they call me Jeb and I earned it” mean?
MomSense
@dmsilev:
They have no idea what to do with the monster they have created. Feed people fear, meanness, racism, and lies for 20 years and this is the result.
divF
Speaking of dogs barking, the debate reminds me of Dave Barry’s characterization of Ross Perot as being like his dog that would intermittently go crazy, almost as if he was receiving instructions from a satellite as it went over.
Except that for tonight’s debates, the satellite is in geosynchronous orbit over Cleveland.
PsiFighter37
This is the first time I’ve ever heard Walker speak for any period of time. No charisma.
Now Huckabee gets to serve up the red meat.
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
I don’t know what that is, but I’m quite certain that (a) he could do it, and [2] they’d deserve it!
Omnes Omnibus
What’s with Walker’s head nodding tic?
gene108
Poor Christie…he got slammed by “gotcha” question about his lousy record…
Dumb shit got away with glossing over the fact he got elected in 2009, in the teeth of the worst recession in 80 years. Those job losses goes against Corzine, but he has not done shit…
dmsilev
What’s a “DNA schedule”?
PsiFighter37
Go personhood! Go 5th and 14th Amendments!
jl
@dmsilev: Who is ‘they’? Fox News? The GOP? Fox News has ratings and $ on their minds. Get a big story out of this thing asap. ROI done and won.
Anne Laurie
@PsiFighter37:
Anyone under AARP age even recognizes her name, I’m guessing it’s for the animated cartoons she used to do on PBS (or playing Betty Rubble in that movie).
different-church-lady
@JGabriel: They don’t want minors to see it by accident.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: They call him jeb! not John Bush, I guess.
lgerard
@raven:
I don’t know what it means, but it made me laugh
mai naem mobile
I wish Kelly would ask what to do if Joshie Duggar got one of his sisters and daughters preggers.
MomSense
@dmsilev:
Do Not Abort
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: You’re from the West Side of Chicago and you don’t know??
Leaving Texas
WTF is a DNA schedule?
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: Hmm, .
yet another jeff
As a person that buys a lot of Buick parts, I resent that.
The 5th amendment??
Redshift
@Anne Laurie: We’re here! I guess the Republicans are all at GOP-only debate parties; everyone here is cheering Trump and mocking everyone else. (Also laughing at Trump.)
Anne Laurie
@SiubhanDuinne: How do you silence a New Yorker? Break his fingers!
(That joke was old when dinosaurs roamed the Seaport streets… )
lgerard
@Leaving Texas:
something Huckabee just made up
he didn’t get much response either
dmsilev
Huh. Apparently expanding Medicaid is a good thing. Who knew?
Germy Shoemangler
@JGabriel:
Not broadcasting this debate is a public service.
I heard three lies just listening for a few moments.
PsiFighter37
Kasich actually justifying getting people out of prison and taking Medicare money. Dude’s got no shot.
gene108
Kasich sounds like a Democrat touting the benefits of Medicaid expansion.
raven
@dmsilev: Wonald Wagan did.
mai naem mobile
@dmsilev: it’s like Microsoft Outlook. Screwed up with lots of code and holes to fix.
jl
@raven: Hell if I know. Good chance Jeb! meant to say something else entirely and if this comes up, there will be follow-up confusing clarifications, walk-backs, explanation, ‘out of context’-ings and misstep ‘splaining, to follow, and a final surrender, delivered with an alarmed and resentful sneer.
Gawd, this guy is as charming as dirty dishwater full of maturing kitchen scraps.
Smiling Mortician
Whoa. Did Kasich show up to the wrong debate or what?
But. He got a lotta applause . . .
PsiFighter37
Jeb! trying to sell immigration reform. Good luck when Trump eats your dinner on this issue.
Anne Laurie
@jl:
Dumbfck lowered the bar, and now he’s trying to squeeze his newly paleo’d arse under it.
raven
@jl: He’s a shoe in!
mdblanche
And now we come to the part of the debate where each candidate will be given the chance to insult Messicans the most.
geg6
@Leaving Texas:
Yeah, I have no clue what that means. I didn’t know DNA had a schedule.
Nicole
John Kasich makes me think of when you’re going through a bargain bin, and you find a cup that’s not, you know, a nice cup, but it’s not chipped, or cracked, or coated with some suspicious substance, so by comparison with the other remnants, it looks like a good deal.
yet another jeff
Sure, it would be cheaper not to arrest people for doing drugs…but where’s the shaming in that?
lgerard
@raven:
He is known as Ronald Raven
forever more
bystander
Kasich is tomorrow’s Miracle Boy. The only thing to enjoy is watching the extended humiliation of Jeb! Priceless.
dagon
Did Megyn Kelly open this fiasco up by saying that Carly Fiorina “opened up a can” in the earlier debate?
Right to Rise
Jeb just won the debate.
He diffused the immigration issue in a compassionate yet logical way, skewering the demagoguery of Trump
Anne Laurie
@raven: My best guess – “My momma says I’m special!”
Zinsky
Bush and Trump in a death match
Kropadope
@Heliopause:
Gotta love how they haven’t updated their cultural references in 20 years.
@Anne Laurie:
You mean the documentary about how humans shared the world with dinosaurs 6000 years ago?
dmsilev
Trump’s ego has gone supercritical. He’s not exactly the first Republican to obsess on illegal immigration or walls.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Smiling Mortician: Everybody knows him there, the debate’s in his home state.
geg6
@Right to Rise:
Hahahahahaha! Have you met your base?
SiubhanDuinne
@raven:
Awesome. No, I had never heard it. Thanks for helping improve my West Suburban cred.
Kropadope
@Right to Rise: You ought not speak with your mouth full of Jeb’s little Jeb.
lgerard
and Trump flames out
raven
@lgerard: watch it, Raven was a great cocker spaniel.
Chris
@lgerard:
Ravin’ Ronald?
different-church-lady
@Right to Rise:
You do realize this is the GOP debate, yes?
mdblanche
@Right to Rise: You’re funny. I like you.
raven
@SiubhanDuinne: Run over to Taylor Street in Cicero, dey got it.
PsiFighter37
Some lick-spittle going on from Trump there.
JGabriel
@MomSense:
That strategy goes back a lot further than 20 years. If I had to guess, I’d say the modern form of it in American politics started just after WWII with the the Taft-Hartley Act in ’47 and/or Nixon forming the House Un-American Activities Committee in ’48.
Right to Rise
@lgerard:
Yep. This is the beginning of the end for the Trump campaign. It’s over man.
divF
@Germy Shoemangler:
Anne Laurie
@SiubhanDuinne: Glossary of Italian obscene gestures, via Justice Scalia, at NPR.
jl
It was a very long set up, but the laff riot pay off of the new guy is worth it.
No one diss DougJ’s chops at trolling no more.
Redshift
@geg6: My best guess if that he was trying to claim that we only recently found out that a fetus has human DNA. Funny how he thinks “science” must not be questioned in this case…
Right to Rise
Trump has imploded.
The first causality of the Great Clearing for Jeb.
dmsilev
@Right to Rise: Bookmark it, libs!
beltane
@Redshift: What type of DNA did he expect a human fetus to have?
yet another jeff
Wow…it really IS the time for each candidate to blame Mexicans…
ChrisH
Trump seems to be fine so far, and the other candidates can’t decide whether to attack him or praise him and we get a bit of both.
beltane
@Right to Rise: I don’t have cable so I’m taking your comment to mean that Trump is stealing the show.
raven
@Anne Laurie: And here’s one!
srv
All the other candidates understand, Jeb is out of touch, Trump has a real pulse on the pulse of Americans.
@beltane: see the sky link above.
divF
@beltane:
My hair has human DNA. Does that mean I am not supposed to cut it?
Althea
Trump looks like a sunburned lizard
Right to Rise
Get Trump’s dick out of your mouth Kaisich .
dmsilev
@yet another jeff: Well, Rubio is blaming the countries south of Mexico. Variety!
PsiFighter37
Wow, Kasich just tried to pump up his credentials without even attacking Trump. They are scared of him…
Germy Shoemangler
Kasich: “Mr. Trump is hitting a nerve”
Wallace is going from candidate to candidate: “Please attack Trump. Please?”
Right to Rise
@srv:
Trump is done by Halloween.
kc
Was he trying to be funny?
raven
@Germy Shoemangler: Maybe he needs to go back to Megan?
Germy Shoemangler
@Althea: Trump: Offspring of the geico gecko and mussolini?
trollhattan
@Right to Rise:
That’s a whole lotta polysyllables, Skippy. Is that part of Firmware 2.0?
mai naem mobile
Jebeh! is doing an awesome job at looking more and more like W.
Randy P
Dueling trolls!
Chris
@srv:
SRV v. RTR: pistols at dawn.
gelfling545
@raven: I can only guess that Jeb means dullard in some esoteric foreign language. In that case, he’s earned it.
srv
Wallace and FOX is clearly trying to gotcha the real conservatives and cuckold the cuckservatives like Jeb.
trollhattan
@Right to Rise:
Halloween 2016 mwa-ha-ha!
Right to Rise
@mai naem mobile: W. won the presidency twice against your candidates.
yet another jeff
So…Cruz is made of claymation…
zzyzx
Any law that’s named after a person is almost definitely a bad idea.
mdblanche
Ted Cruz may not want to attack Trump, but he sure is eager to attack McConnell.
Omnes Omnibus
Cruz went after the Turtle. WTF?
srv
@Right to Rise: Jeb doesn’t need a Halloween costume, he’s just another RINO ghoul.
All Jeb has is money and RINO’s like you.
beltane
@mdblanche: Cruz’s disorder used to be known as monomania.
Central Planning
Can we do a live blog for the next debate? Those were fun during the last election debates.
Right to Rise
@srv:
People who use terms such as yours are white supremacists.
Real conservatives are colorblind.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Right to Rise:
FIFY, skippy.
Mandalay
@Kropadope:
Looking on the bright side, he has also effectively fucked himself from rising any higher within the party.
What you said. Schumer had a choice between supporting President Obama or Netanyahu, and he chose Netanyahu.
p.s Sen Gillibrand is supporting the President.
Randy P
Not watching, just reading live-blogs. Are we really half an hour into this thing and nobody has said the word “Benghazi” yet?
PsiFighter37
Rand Paul going all constitutionalist. Chris Christie getting pissed. Lulz
ThresherK
@srv: I wondered how few seconds the secure manly-man in you would take to put that term in this space.
sharl
@dmsilev:
Hahaha, I do love the wingnut troll classics (though I had forgotten that one, tbqh).
Smiling Mortician
@BillinGlendaleCA: Oh, yeah. I forgot. For a minute there, I thought some Republicans maybe accepted that medicaid’s good and broken lives can be repaired. My bad.
Kropadope
@Right to Rise:
You already went from currently imploding to two and a half months from now? That’s it, the nomination is Trump’s.
Side question: How is Jeb blogging on Balloon Juice while also debating? He’s more talented than I thought.
Germy Shoemangler
Walker is fast-talking and sharp.
He reminds me of the guy who sold me the used Saturn with the faulty ignition switch.
Christie: “You’re blowing hot air!” to Rand. Ouch!
yet another jeff
I”m Rand Paul…and I’m not just the president of the Chia Hair Club for men…I’m also running for President.
different-church-lady
@Central Planning: We have to wait and see if the network picks up the series first.
lgerard
hey
now I like Rand
dmsilev
Christie with the first 9/11 reference. And apparently Christie and Paul don’t much like each other.
NonyNony
@Right to Rise: There’s an old saying in Tennessee – I know it’s in Texas, probably in Tennessee – fool me once shame on you. If you fool me you can’t be fooled again.
PsiFighter37
Surprisingly, the crowd seems to be more on Paul’s side than Christie’s.
Kropadope
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Still debatable.
raven
@lgerard: I’d like to wipe that fucking smirk of his punk ass face,
trollhattan
@Omnes Omnibus:
He called turtle “a liar” a week or two ago. Lovers’ spat? Fighting over Graham?
PsiFighter37
Ted Cruz really wants to go to war.
Anne Laurie
@Chris:
Paintballs loaded with liquid pig manure, I’m thinking.
(Source them from Iowa, extra primary cred!)
dmsilev
Ted Cruz: “The Joint Chiefs and the State Department both said something I don’t like, therefore I’m right”.
Central Planning
@different-church-lady:
Oh they will. They will.
Kropadope
@Right to Rise:
Not to defend srv, but what did any of that have to do with race?
raven
@PsiFighter37: He wants YOU to go to war.
srv
@Germy Shoemangler:
It’s easy when you speak the truth.
@Right to Rise: When you race bait like Obama, you are like Obama.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Kropadope: I defer to Kay’s judgement on 2004.
PsiFighter37
Jeb getting a question about Iraq…certainly not making it easy on him.
gene108
John Ellis gets a chance to polish his brother’s turd of a war
Anne Laurie
@gelfling545:
“Seriously”, the excuse for the JEB! logo (which goes back to 1994) is that he’s not just another Bush, he’s earned his own place in politics.
That he can say this with a straight face proves he’s not very bright or self-aware.
raven
@srv: Fuck both of you shit eatin dog fuckers.
Steeplejack
@dagon:
Megyn said she “unleashed a can,” which is even more awesome, I guess.
Shrillhouse
Man, Jeb is weak…
Origuy
Anybody a logical choice to primary Schumer? Hey, where does Amy Schumer live? Get her to run against her cousin.
NonyNony
@Chris:
Hell, I’m still not convinced that srv and rtr aren’t the same person having a sockpuppet fight.
PsiFighter37
Jeb equates Iran with ISIS. He was clearly fumbling at the end and getting on shaky ground. Not the smart Bush brother, at least not much.
Walker sounds like a complete doofus.
ChrisH
jeez Fox New’s streaming service sucks. I have 25 Mbs download and the player keeps stuttering
trollhattan
@Anne Laurie:
Grenades, ensuring MAD.
yet another jeff
@zzyzx:
Damn right.
different-church-lady
@srv: OK, I’m going to need a ruling on the allowable implementation of Poe’s Law here…
Germy Shoemangler
Walker is fast-talking and sharp. Like a crooked used-car salesman. Like a scumbag middle manager. Like a cock-sucking rightwing internet troll.
Chris
@PsiFighter37:
His bro thought Iraq was al-Qaeda, he thinks Iran is ISIS. It runs in the family, I guess.
Right to Rise
Jeb: The war was won in 2008, but Obama shot us in the back by leaving Iraq. He created ISIS.
Pwnd
PsiFighter37
Ben Carson is so out of his depth right now. Why did he ever think he could be president.
dmsilev
Obamacare hate-off!
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Fuck Fox and their fucking bell.
Signed Nikki(my cocker)
Central Planning
@ChrisH: I’ve been watching via Sky News Live
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: Lil Bit’s be deaf.
Anne Laurie
@Omnes Omnibus:
It means Cruz is no longer running for president, he’s running for God-King of the Talibangelicals. Mitch is at the top of their shit-list this week, cuz he says he won’t let them shut down the gubmint when Obama won’t drone every Planned Parenthood clinic into oblivion.
Normal people, even most politically-oriented people, won’t have a clue. But I’m sure Twitchy is eating it up with a spork!
SiubhanDuinne
@Anne Laurie:
Or, as President Obama famously said about his departing chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, “He lost part of his middle finger. As a result of this, he was rendered practically mute.”
Right to Rise
Trump: Iraq war was unnecessary and a disaster.
He just lost the primary.
Mandalay
Jeb! does Bambi in the headlights. Listless and clueless, and looks like he just wants to take a nap. Cruz is a sick, deranged psychofuck but he looks far more presidential than Bush.
yet another jeff
Privatize single payer healthcare!! Brilliant! Privatize it and get the insurance companies out of it!
xinark
@Mandalay: Damn. Good on Gillibrand, but it sucks to see my district’s rep getting name-dropped as opposed to the deal.
Think it’s too late to mount those phone-calling campaigns like what Tim did for the ACA?
BillinGlendaleCA
@Right to Rise: Gota stay there forever, right skippy?
ThresherK
@Germy Shoemangler: Used car?
I was going to say “childrens’ band instruments”, but that’ll work too.
different-church-lady
@Right to Rise: Say, you’re not really here for the hunting, are you?
PsiFighter37
LOL, Donald insults Rand. Stomping on that little twerp.
beltane
It’s nice to know that there is no daylight between Chuck Schumer and Jeb! regarding Iran.
srv
Trump right in 2004, right now.
Trump/Walker 2016
@Right to Rise: You’re having a hard time tonight.
Kropadope
@Right to Rise:
You know, you shouldn’t take a joke that was already used against you and just redirect it without attribution.
NonyNony
@different-church-lady:
I’ve long thought that srv was just pulling our legs. Nothing posted tonight changes my opinion of that.
I wasn’t sure if Right To Rise was UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH or someone pulling our legs. Tonight I’m pretty sure that Right To Rise is either stupider than UNLIMITED CORPORATE CASH or he’s pulling our legs.
raven
Damn, this shit is on until 11????
yet another jeff
So…this is all EXCELLENT NEWS FOR JOHN MCCAAIIIINN!!! Yes?
Right to Rise
Rand is a disgrace just like his senile pops.
BillinGlendaleCA
@raven: Or a bit later.
Kropadope
@Right to Rise:
A: The process of leaving Iraq started under Bush. Granted, Bush’s plan for leaving Iraq was suspiciously similar to then-candidate Obama’s.
B: Should we have stayed in Iraq forever? Just delay and delay and delay the inevitable.
raven
@BillinGlendaleCA: DVR but I’ll miss all these weenies!
ThresherK
@PsiFighter37: He was in the wingnut welfare “short line”. I think it’s a given that someone will do this quadrennially.
srv
I don’t like Huckabee, but he can be poetic sometimes.
different-church-lady
@BillinGlendaleCA: If nobody scores during extra time, do we go to penalty kicks?
Rommie
@yet another jeff: A bit, as McCain looks like Mt. Rushmore material next to this set of ponies.
yet another jeff
Or instead of tithing…just burn a cow…or a warehouse.
raven
Carson is dumber than Right to Rise.
Mike in NC
On Friday Trump will be polled at pushing 50% with the base.
Right to Rise
@Kropadope:
We are still in Germany, Japan, and South Korea. If we stayed in Iraq long enough it would be like those democracies rather than half its territory as part of the Caliphate.
Joel
Has Trump gone Elmer Gantry yet?
jl
” Jeb: The war was won in 2008, but Obama shot us in the back by leaving Iraq. He created ISIS. ”
Nice to see Jeb! could spit out a standard GOP talking point cleanly. May be hope for him yet, even if he does seem to have the personality and affect of a sullen maladjusted teenager.
Glad I could watch the first part of the debate to watch a Master at work (well, a Master at what he does, which is not pretty).
Trump Tromps Twits will be a good headline for a sum up.
PsiFighter37
Jeb deflecting away from Common Core. Surprised if no one nails him next.
mdblanche
@raven: This shit certainly goes up to 11, and probably beyond.
yet another jeff
Remember kids…vouchers=coupons.
Rommie
@different-church-lady: They’ll replay the game at a later date and do this all over again (gag)
scav
@different-church-lady: If we’re lucky, it’ll be immediately after the swim suit competition and they’ll be wearing cleats.
yet another jeff
@mdblanche:
Why not just make 10 later?
BillinGlendaleCA
@different-church-lady: This is America, none of that extra time or penalty kicks; American Football, Sudden Death.
BillinGlendaleCA
Carson is out of his element.
srv
Jeb: blah, blah blah. Take on the unions?
Walker smacked those unions like you and Christie can only dream of.
They are clearly giving Jeb more time – which may be good, as he’s just sinking himself.
Kropadope
@Right to Rise:
Those autonomous nations want us there. Not so much Iraq.
gene108
Rubio Feds cramming education down our throats…
SiubhanDuinne
Rubio looks thirsty.
different-church-lady
@Mike in NC: You just KNOW he’s going to get exactly 27% in the general.
lgerard
@Germy Shoemangler:
he is a bit like this guy
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beltane
@Right to Rise: Mr. Colbert, I am so honored you have chosen to join us here.
Another Holocene Human
@Anne Laurie: Can’t you FPers coordinate or something? New thread every 150 comments? See you at Wonkette, I’m out of here.
different-church-lady
@yet another jeff: New thread please, this one has been won.
Anne Laurie
@Joel:
That’s the Cruz / Huckabee slot.
Trump’s not a bible-thumper, he won’t give anyone not Donald Trump that much credit.
dagon
@Steeplejack:
In the opening, I thought I was watching the runup to the opening of a pageant. Let’s just say that the proceedings were….awkward.
mdblanche
Commercial break! Time to pop more popcorn.
ThresherK
@BillinGlendaleCA: No rouges for our Canadian Cruz? Or is that an unfair advantage?
(PS Since the goalposts in CFL are 10 yards further apart, you can make your own “moving the goalposts” joke here.)
Uncle Cosmo
@raven: FTR, “real Italian-Americans” know the correct form is fa in culo–idiomatically, “shove it up your arse.” Sloppy pronuciation (largely by medigani) & a preface of “aah” or “bah” turns it into bafanghul.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Right to Rise: Cause Iraq was just as peaceful as Germany, Japan and South Korea in 2008. Gotcha. LMAO.
geg6
@NonyNony:
I still think it’s DougJ. I doubt that feeling every now and again and then he says something that makes me sure it’s Doug in fine trolling form.
jl
@Kropadope:
” Those autonomous nations want us there. Not so much Iraq. ”
Well after the Jeb! (or more likely, Trump) charm offensive, Iraq will want us too.
Or, maybe there will problems in the other countries.. or..
This debate is getting me disoriented. Time to go.
beltane
Mitt Romney must be kicking himself.
Mandalay
@BillinGlendaleCA:
Yep. Nobody told him you are supposed to completely ignore the question that was asked, but all the other clowns clearly got that memo.
MomSense
@mdblanche:
I am really losing it because I just read that like Buzz Lightyear.
a hip hop artist from Idaho (fka Bella Q)
@PsiFighter37:
FTFY
gogol's wife
@trollhattan:
The trolls are hilarious tonight!
yet another jeff
It’s in Quicken Loans Arena? Holy fuck…
Helen
Every time Chris Wallace says “Gentlemen” it reminds me that there are no women there.
Kropadope
@jl:
One can only lose a certain number of brain cells in a short space of time before feeling the effects.
Germy Shoemangler
Moderators: Wallace Junior, Blonde Bombshell, and low-forehead guy
srv
Hey Wallace, you aren’t a fucking candidate. And what is with those Perry glasses?
Nicole
I don’t think you can say you’re exploring a subject in depth when the candidates only get 30 seconds to reply.
And one of my husband’s (right-wing) friends is upset that FOX is using a doorbell for the buzzer, because he says his dog starts barking every time the candidates run long.
Kropadope
@Helen:
She was banished to the kiddie table.
Redshift
@Right to Rise:
Yep, he can recite rote talking points with the best of them. Of course, he has more stake than most of them in denying that W’s little war of choice caused any of the problems in the Middle East.
mdblanche
@yet another jeff: It’s where they’ll be holding the GOP convention next year too.
PsiFighter37
Impressed with how Chris Wallace knows exactly how Hillary’s going to run.
Kasich keeps trying to pump his resume like he’s using a Swedish dick pump – he didn’t even attack Hillary at all.
different-church-lady
@Helen: Odd, because there are no gentlemen there either.
yet another jeff
My father was a mailman…so we should destroy the Post Office. Oh right…Hillary. I’ll help the poor by monetizing platitudes.
srv
Reach out to the Shadow People… he’s starting to win me over. Not.
Is Carson stoned or is he always like that.
BillinGlendaleCA
@Nicole: It’s really fucking annoying.
dmsilev
Alinksy reference!
Omnes Omnibus
Alinsky model?
gene108
Kasich invents a word: A-miracle (short for American miracle)
yet another jeff
@mdblanche:
Seriously? Seems symbolic somehow…
Kropadope
@beltane:
Have the betting markets announced odds on him throwing his hat in the ring tomorrow?
@different-church-lady:
Bern!!!!!
lgerard
EVERY DRINK for the Alinsky reference!
different-church-lady
@PsiFighter37:
[squints]
You would know that how?
yet another jeff
@srv:
Shadow people AND the people under the stairs.
NotMax
Didn’t watch, but saw a picture of the “moderators” of Act I. Good to note that Bill Hemmer appears to be off the steroids.
Waldo
Carson: the American people are not stupid, just ignorant.
Yikes.
MomSense
Carson is on a roll. He managed to get secular progressive and Alinsky in one sentence.
JGabriel
@Right to Rise:
Once. The first time W lost the election, but won the Supreme Court that his Daddy packed.
PsiFighter37
Magical 4% growth! Jeb says we need to aim higher. Just wish harder!
BillinGlendaleCA
Lift our spirits == more jobs. Sorry jeb!, I quit drinking.
srv
new thread up
lgerard
Anyone who uses the phrase “the left” is automatically disqualified from serious consideration
yet another jeff
Walker: When I was young, I wanted to be a baseball….
Germy Shoemangler
Carson: “Our democratic opponents are out to destroy the country.”
Brilliant…
Imagine the democratic debates, if HRC or Bernie said “Our republican opponents clearly mean to purposely destroy our country.”
NYtimes headline the next day: “LUNATICS and MANIACS”
JGabriel
@Right to Rise:
Meaning they don’t see anyone who isn’t white.
Karen in GA
Is Walker being played by a sedated Nicolas Cage?
PsiFighter37
Walker is a numbnut. How did this dude get elected? Tom Barrett and Mary Burke must have had negative charisma.
Kropadope
@lgerard:
The “left” is a powerless shell of a poorly defined political faction in the U.S. (Unless you believe Republicans or the MSM, but I repeat myself.)
Anne Laurie
New debate post up top, from Cole.
yet another jeff
@Anne Laurie:
What? But this is comedy gold! What about posterity?
Uncle Cosmo
@Chris: Chainsaws at armslength, somewhere amenable to hosing down.
Elizabelle
DougJ and meetup buds: I am so close to you!! I am just down the street at The Diner, which has debate on and is way less crowded. It’s cooler too.
Ventana whatever is so crowded that I could not even get through the door.
Commute was effing horrible — two hours in via car and train — I could be in Richmond!! — wish I’d just driven. From below derailment site; they held our train for maybe 25-30 mins. and maybe up to 45 — didn’t check.
Respond please!! Would you like to come here for dessert or a nightcap? They’ll have TV on for Jon Stewart.
The Diner
2453 18th Street NW
Elizabelle
PS: They have booze here at the Diner! Am sipping a Malbec. Tullamore Dew and other spirits on the bar. They make boozy shakes too.
Mike in NC
@yet another jeff: Because all of these dumb assholes would give a used car salesman a bad name.
Anne Laurie
@Redshift:
Jeb definitely reminds me of an old AKC obedience aphorism: The advantage to working with a not-too-bright dog is that, once you’ve finally imprinted a routine on his tiny mind, he won’t mind repeating it ten thousand times at the next thousand competitions.
SiubhanDuinne
@Anne Laurie:
Bookmarked for future reference. Grazie.
Zifnab25
Race war! Race War!
I am really scared, guys.
Zifnab25
@dmsilev: Honestly, my money is on Kashich now. He and Walker are coming out of this looking very solid. Them and Rubio.
If anyone has flamed out here, it’s Jeb.
Omnes Omnibus
@Zifnab25: I thought Walker was horrible, but then I always think Walker is horrible, but then that is because Walker is, objectively, horrible.
billb
tRUMP !!!
Paul in KY
@Germy Shoemangler: He seems like the most evil one up there. Sort of like Peter Baelish in Game of Thrones.
Paul in KY
@different-church-lady: LOL! Needed a snare drum roll with that one.