Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

No offense, but this thread hasn’t been about you for quite a while.

When do we start airlifting the women and children out of Texas?

Fuck the extremist election deniers. What’s money for if not for keeping them out of office?

Come for the politics, stay for the snark.

Everybody saw this coming.

Speaking of republicans, is there a way for a political party to declare intellectual bankruptcy?

A democracy can’t function when people can’t distinguish facts from lies.

Second rate reporter says what?

Conservatism: there are some people the law protects but does not bind and others who the law binds but does not protect.

In my day, never was longer.

Infrastructure week. at last.

Something needs to be done about our bogus SCOTUS.

Come on, man.

I wonder if trump will be tried as an adult.

Nancy smash is sick of your bullshit.

Damn right I heard that as a threat.

Shallow, uninformed, and lacking identity

It’s easy to sit in safety and prescribe what other people should be doing.

My years-long effort to drive family and friends away has really paid off this year.

White supremacy is terrorism.

“Jesus paying for the sins of everyone is an insult to those who paid for their own sins.”

I did not have this on my fuck 2022 bingo card.

Not all heroes wear capes.

Some judge needs to shut this circus down soon.

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Ask me, I’d say he was undergoing advanced hair repair therapy, because in press photos from the weekend his latest dye job was matching offputtingly well with the fluorescent-lime bracelets and trinkets in the audience. (Dude: Use some of the cash you’re grifting from the RNC to pay a skilled wig crafter, and save us all a lot of ugliness, okay?)

But maybe he is feeling a cold trickle of electoral doom down his spine…

Apart from politics, what’s on the agenda for the evening?


(via NYMag — yes those are Kara Walker shadow puppets!)

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  2. 2.

    Schlemazel

    HEY RAVEN? You fish the ocean; does GA have a saltwater license? We are in Key West next week and I mentioned we would be buying one of their 7 day out of state licenses and one of the local wingnuts went off on how nobody should have to get a license to fish in the ocean and he was sure no state had a license for that.

  4. 4.

    Schlemazel

    As far as the Drumpfster fires health goes: I sure hope he holds up til November 9th. I want his ass thoroughly kicked with no excuse & no hope for the goopers to replace him with one of their more sane appearing assholes

  5. 5.

    hovercraft

    From Reuters:

    Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton leads Republican rival Donald Trump by 12 percentage points among likely voters, her strongest showing this month, according to a Reuters/Ipsos opinion poll released on Tuesday.

    The Aug. 18-22 poll showed that 45 percent of voters supported Clinton, while 33 percent backed Trump ahead of the Nov. 8 election.

    Clinton, the former U.S. secretary of state, has led Trump, a New York businessman, throughout most of the 2016 campaign. But her latest lead represents a stronger level of support than polls indicated over the past few weeks. Earlier in August, Clinton’s lead over Trump ranged from 3 to 9 percentage points in the poll.

    I don’t believe it, but it will drive Donnie and the media nuts.

  7. 7.

    dmsilev

    The mystery of the disappearing Trump has, alas, been solved:

    The campaign on Tuesday rolled out a revamped schedule, making sure to emphasize — twice — that Trump is focusing on battleground states.

    The new approach, which includes visits to Florida and Nevada, appears to have the fingerprints of Kellyanne Conway, a respected Republican pollster who was elevated last week to the role of campaign manager and who has been credited for Trump’s toned-down approach in recent days.
    Asked on Tuesday why the campaign decided to nix Trump’s speech on immigration previously slated for Thursday in Colorado, Conway suggested it as a vestige of the old regime.
    “You know, we inherited this schedule and although I think it’s a great idea to have that kind of speech and certainly put together a full plan, immigration is such a complex issue and Mr. Trump has been taking the counsel of many different people on this,” Conway told Fox News. “He obviously has some very strong feelings and policy prescription with respect to immigration, but he’s speaking to people to understand how to execute on those ideas.”

    The reader will note that, having made EVIL IMMIGRANTS the centerpiece of his campaign for the last year or so, Donald Trump is only now “speaking to people to understand how to execute on those ideas.” Assuming, of course, that Ms. Conway isn’t lying.

  8. 8.

    JMG

    Not political, but have to note TCM is showing Brigitte Bardot movies from the ’50s today. They all stink, but my goodness how beautiful she was.

  9. 9.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @lamh36:

    Yeah, but you got an adorbs new niecy out of the long weekend. I’d say that’s a pretty fair exchange :-)

    Plus, also too, you can show off Layla’s picture to all your cow-orkers. That’ll be fun, yes?

  11. 11.

    Turgidson

    @hovercraft:

    Reporter: “Mr. Trump, can you explain what is driving your horrible poll numbers?”

    Trump: “First of all, Rand Paul is a total loser.”

  12. 12.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dmsilev:

    Assuming, of course, that Ms. Conway isn’t lying.

    That “assuming” is doing a metric fucktonne of heavy lifting there.

  15. 15.

    Turgidson

    @dmsilev:

    I give it maybe three weeks before Conway loses a power struggle with the Breitbart goon and Trump cranks the moron factor back up to eleventy billion.

  18. 18.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @JMG:

    I didn’t appreciate her beauty back in the day, but in retrospect, yes, she was breathtaking.

    I appreciate her now because of her commitment to animal welfare. I believe she would take great interest and pleasure in Walter’s story.

  19. 19.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @JanieM:

    What does Google not know?

    How to get to the Hollywood Sign(teh Google will send you to Griffith Observatory).

  20. 20.

    dmsilev

    @SiubhanDuinne: It’s too bad she couldn’t be honest and say “After much repetition, I managed, I think, to beat it into his thick skull that he has to at least try to cloak his racism with a veneer of deniability if he doesn’t want to frighten away too many voters”.

  22. 22.

    Miss Bianca

    Anne Laurie, you don’t speak Irish, do you? Or do you? Looking over something I’ve written reminds me of just how much I need to consult an Irish speaker for some of it.

  23. 23.

    dmsilev

    @schrodinger’s cat: Woohoo!

    Good luck on the inspection. Don’t sweat over small things in the report that are easy to fix, but if there’s something big, you need to know about it.

  27. 27.

    Tilda Swinton's Bald Cap

    @dmsilev: Yeah, but then there’s this:

    Trump backer Ann Coulter says she’s concerned about Trump’s recent statements on immigration, worries he is sounding like GOP rivals he beat

  28. 28.

    Schlemazel

    @JanieM: Thanks!
    Oh, I know FLA has them, we checked it out already but wingnut says it must only be Florida. I could google the others but I am lazy & know raven, among others can answer with authority.

  29. 29.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @dmsilev:

    You have to wonder what those airplane conversations are like. I wish and hope that Kellyanne has a recorder going, but she’s such a true believer we’ll probably never know.

  31. 31.

    lamh36

    @CandaceSmith_
    AUSTIN, TX– Rick Figueroa, one of Trump’s warmup acts, comes onstage after another lively speaker. “Never come onstage after a black man!”

  33. 33.

    hovercraft

    @Turgidson:
    Funny thing, Robert Costa of the WaPo reported that Trump and his close advisors don’t understand why he is doing so badly with “The Blacks”, his immigration policies and his trade stances should be popular with them. Where to even begin with such delusion is beyond me. Does the man not know he’s a racist, or does he think that the first time we started paying attention to him was the day he came down that escalator? I always found it funny when the media kept saying that Trump could be a republican who because of his policies, got a larger than normal share of the black vote. The media may have forgiven him the birther bullshit, but we didn’t. He was always DOA with us.

  37. 37.

    Amir Khalid

    @JMG:
    Pity that she’s aged into a right- wing nut job.

    @dmsilev:As with his previous campaign make-overs, you have to wonder how long this one will last before the Donald starts feeling he’s come too far out of his comfort zone.

  40. 40.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    “Two roads diverged in a wood, and I / I took the one less travelled by / And that has made all the difference.”

    Oh, how I would love that! Okay, you’re on, maybe for next summer!

  42. 42.

    hovercraft

    @Turgidson:
    Much like with Manaford, she will be given a honeymoon period, but as soon as he sees that he is still losing, he will return to his glory days persona. The media is engaged in a feeding frenzy re the CGI/e-mail “scandal”, so he may get a bump next week. But I doubt that he will catch up let alone over take her.

  45. 45.

    Splitting Image

    Texas now has the highest rate of mortality due to childbirth in the developed world.

    As happy as I’d be for Texas women to deliver its electoral votes to Hillary Clinton this fall, what they really need to do is fumigate the legislature and the governor’s office. I know the saying is “Never attribute to malice what can be adequately explained by stupidity”, but stupidity doesn’t really explain what the Republicans have done there. Malice it is.

  49. 49.

    Schlemazel

    @JanieM:
    THANKS! I knew others would chime in. I’m not the least surprised but wingnut will be, he does not understand why the government should get to charge for stuff that is free, like parks or rivers or highways.

  51. 51.

    bemused

    I’d prefer to think Trump’s unexplained cancellations are do to a girl having a hell of a lot more stamina than he does.

  54. 54.

    Schlemazel

    @efgoldman:
    And because of TV they now require all games to be prime time. They are really counting on climate change. I feel the same way about the NFL, pushing playoff games into January for crying out loud. They are going to get people seriously hurt for money.

  55. 55.

    Raven

    @Schlemazel: There is weird shit in Florida about fishing regs. The state waters are 9 miles and after that it’s fed. A guy in his won boat has severe limits but the fucking commercial dudes can catch way more.

  58. 58.

    ?BillinGlendaleCA

    @Schlemazel: Wingnuts don’t seem to understand the things like parks, rivers, or highways need to be maintained; and the folk that perform said maintenance like to eat too.

    (I had this conversation with the kid’s bf.)

  59. 59.

    Schlemazel

    @Raven:
    Oh, yeah, we already have those planned. My question was for the rest of the coastal states. You are the only one I knew for a fact would be aware.

    thanks

  64. 64.

    Davebo

    @Raven: True, but commercial fisherman pay a hell of a lot more for their licenses.

    Six miles? Geez, I have to go 40 for the good stuff. I should move to Florida.

  65. 65.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @efgoldman:

    If a Northern cold weather team is in the series, they’ll have to play on a Southern neutral site, like they do with the super bowl.

    Ain’t nothin’ gonna be happenin’ at The Ted, I can tell you that.

  66. 66.

    Schlemazel

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:
    Yeah and this one is particularly annoying to me because he is a nice guy but when he whines about the shitty government rules in a state like Florida and I point out how the place has been run 100% by the GOP for the last 25 years he suddenly hates all government not just the Dems.

  70. 70.

    ? Martin

    @?BillinGlendaleCA:

    Wingnuts don’t seem to understand the things like parks, rivers, or highways need to be maintained; and the folk that perform said maintenance like to eat too.

    Pray harder. Jesus will provide for both.

  71. 71.

    Raven

    @Davebo: fuck them! I thought I typed 9. That’s just the border of state and federal waters. Most of the boats I go on go at least 30.

  72. 72.

    JPL

    I wonder if Kellyanne Conway is paid by Trump or RNC.. hmmm. If she is being paid by Trump, I hope she collected in advance.

  73. 73.

    Schlemazel

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    The Hindi movies I have seen I didn’t enjoy at all. That one you mentioned here the other day I bookmarked for watching as it looked very different (at least the musical pieces on youtube) and also very different from the usual Hollywood stuff.

  74. 74.

    dmsilev

    @hovercraft: That Costa article is hilarious. We’ll start with the title “Inside Donald Trump’s new strategy to counter the view of him as racist” and go from there.

    At his rallies, meanwhile, Trump has been spotlighting black supporters and making a blunt pitch to minorities. He has described blacks in sweeping and categorical language, suggesting that they are mired in poverty, living in dangerous neighborhoods and have nothing to lose by giving him a chance. He also has changed his tone on immigration by saying he would swiftly deport “the bad ones” living in the country illegally but would use the existing legal process for others — after vowing for more than a year that he would deport them all.
    […]
    The challenge for Trump is daunting. Sixty-five percent of all American adults believe the word “racist” applies to Trump at least slightly well, and 35 percent say it applies very well, according to an Associated Press-GfK Knowledge Networks poll in July. A Washington Post-ABC News poll this month found that 56 percent of all American adults believe Trump is biased against women and minorities.

    Clinton led Trump by 91 percent to 3 percent among blacks and 70 percent to 25 percent among Hispanics in an average of July and August Post-ABC polls.

  75. 75.

    divF

    @schrodinger’s cat: Happens to us all.

    My MIL grew up on the Maine coast in the 30’s and 40’s, and a constant refrain from her childhood was “Lobster again? Why can’t we have hamburgers?”

    She has since expressed sincere regret for her bad attitude.

  76. 76.

    japa21

    @Schlemazel: Saw on the previous thread you came through surgery fine. Different people respond to surgery differently. Avoid heavy lifting for a while and otherwise remember that pain is the body’s warning system, so if it starts to hurt step back from what you are doing and relax. Turned out mine was one of the bigger ones the surgeon had seen and he hadn’t expected that. I felt okay just tired easily for a few days. Keep the site clean to avoid infections.

  79. 79.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Schlemazel:

    I had the enormous pleasure of meeting Schrödinger’s Cat almost two years ago, on my first-ever driving trip to New England. We met up in a bookstore (because of course we did), had a delicious lunch at a Chinese restaurant, walked from there to Emily Dickinson’s home, and throughout the afternoon had a wonderful, far-flung, rambling conversation of the kind you would expect of any random BJ meet-up.

  80. 80.

    SFAW

    Ask me, I’d say he was undergoing advanced hair repair therapy,

    Or hiking the Appalachian Trail.

    Would explain why he’s looking so weak, out-of-breath, no stamina. Sad! Loser!

  81. 81.

    Anne Laurie

    @schrodinger’s cat: Crossing fingers for you, and best wishes on a good inspection report!

    @Miss Bianca:

    Anne Laurie, you don’t speak Irish, do you?

    Nope, no, I do not. Investigated the possibility of learning, back in my college days, and realized it was absolutely not a dyslexic-friendly language, even assuming I had a better ear.

  82. 82.

    Kay

    Went to the Dem meeting. We open the local Dem office September 15th.

    I started calling it “Hillary Headquarters” but I’m not sure it caught on :)

  83. 83.

    dmsilev

    @schrodinger’s cat:

    Red Sox fans are crazy.

    True story: When my aunt died in 2005, she was laid out at her wake wearing a pink Red Sox cap, and several people commented that “at least she got to see them win the Series before she died” or similar.

  85. 85.

    Schlemazel

    @efgoldman:

    No different from the way it’s been for as long as I’ve been watching (since the late 50s).

    About the same for me but I remember the NFL getting done around Thanksgiving. Here on the frozen tundra there is a huge difference between 11/30 and 12/30. Though I do remember teh GB/Dallas game. As a kid I hated that the World Series games were played while I was in school (in 1965 I snuck a transistor radio in to catch bits of the Twins/Dodgers games). And those were still in the fall not winter.

  89. 89.

    Frankensteinbeck

    @hovercraft:
    He does not think he is racist, or that any remotely reasonable person could accuse him of being racist. Very few of even the hardest core racists do, and that’s without Trump’s narcissism. He thinks that the horrible things he says about minorities are true, so they can’t be bigoted.

  91. 91.

    Anoniminous

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    Did you (pl) wander the streets singing her poetry to the melody of The Yellow Rose of Texas, Gilligan’s Island, or alternate between the two?

  92. 92.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman: Pshaw. You can play baseball in the cold. And snow can just be shoveled off.

    Future ballparks will have heating coils beneath the field so they can play till December.

  93. 93.

    gene108

    @Schlemazel:

    And because of TV they now require all games to be prime time

    More like they require all games to start late enough for people on the West coast to watch by dinner time.

    There’s no valid reason not to have a Saturday game, for example, start relatively early, like 6 pm EST. If you really want to watch the game, on the West coast, you can be home to watch it.

  94. 94.

    redshirt

    @Bobby Thomson:

    over three miles out and you can televise Major League Baseball with implied oral consent. Or so the legend goes.

    LOL. I love any variation of this joke.

    Serious questions for the lawyers: If I do an impersonation of Joe C. calling a home run, have I broken the law?

  95. 95.

    Schlemazel

    @Davebo:
    I went a couple times with a neighbor in his boat while we lived in Cocoa Beach. It was only 2-3 miles out the the reef. The fishing wasn’t bad, caught blue fish in dolphin fish (NOT PORPOISE!). But I hated being in a tiny boat outside the sight of land. If anything goes wrong there you are on a very slow trip to England

  97. 97.

    gene108

    @redshirt:

    In the near future all money making sports – NFL, D-1A (can’t remember what the new name is) college football, MLB, etc – will just be year round.

    There’s no point in giving up revenue, when you can keep playing and playing.

    Seriously, the college football champ plays 15 games now: 12 regular season, 1 conference championship game, 1 “play-off” game and 1 national championship game. That’s almost an entire NFL season.

  98. 98.

    redshirt

    With all the NFL crap lately, I’m starting to think baseball is my favorite sport to watch. It’s so varied, there’s almost always something going on (much of it boring), and you never know what you could see on any pitch.

    NFL is: Play! Penalty. Play! Review. Play! Punt! Commercials. Repeat.

    Also, Fuck Goodell.

  99. 99.

    Schlemazel

    @japa21:
    Mine was years ago. The surgery was easy. I felt better after than before . . . until the drugs wore off. That was like falling off a cliff I had not even seen. I giant drop. I have had a lot more pain from other surgeries but not after feeling so great.

    “funny” story. After the pieced my pelvis together I was in tremendous pain. I complained more than once to the nurse & she pretty much told me to just quit whining. When the Dr. came in he rolled me on my side & saw that the needle had come out & I had been dosing the sheets with my morphine. I have enough experience with pain to know that what was happening was not normal surgical pain.

  100. 100.

    redshirt

    @gene108: Why not? It’s better than what’s on regular TV.

    I had to laugh when NCAA football tried to take over New Years Eve as a big College Bowl night. Good luck!

  102. 102.

    SiubhanDuinne

    @Raven:

    fuck them! I thought I typed 9.

    It’s the anesthesia talking. Might as well take advantage of it while you can.

  106. 106.

    Schlemazel

    @redshirt:
    Hockey. Worst thing to watch on TV but live in person, played well (which, sadly, excludes most NHL games) it is the most beautiful game played. Fast, smooth, physical, great play making. They could play that year around because it is indoors but no human bodies can play 80 games properly let alone a whole years worth,

  107. 107.

    Jim Parene

    @Schlemazel: Kindly tell your wingnut friend to fish Fla. Saltwater, without a license. Then have him explain his opinion to Fla. Fish and Wildlife Officers.
    I await film of the event.
    California and Alaska also require licenses.

  109. 109.

    JMG

    @Schlemazel: Once upon a time, before the AFL-NFL merger, the two pro championships were in late December before the New Year’s Day bowls. The first Super Bowl was January 15, about when the playoffs start now. Because I am old, I can also remember when the World Series ended before Columbus Day. As an adult in the 1980s, I was a sports journalist and covered Series that ended in mid-late (15th-22nd) October. Also NBA Finals that ended in mid-May.

  111. 111.

    hovercraft

    @dmsilev:
    Chris Hayes just had the two authors of Trump Revealed on, and the last comment one of them made that Trump has a Don Rickles sense of humor, so when he makes jokes they come off as racist. I think that’s overly generous. Everyone is constantly having to change their language based on changing norms. When I grew up mentally challenged people were called “retarded”, but I don’t use that any more than I would accept a person calling me a ni**er, because it was okay in their youth. The fact that Donald can’t change as society changes, does not reflect well on him. Age is no excuse, if you can’t change your attitude then be a fucking grown up and hide it in public. Trump has been offending people of color foe decades, giving a couple of telepromter speeches in front white audiences will not convince us to change our views of him.

  113. 113.

    Schlemazel

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    I honestly don’t remember any names. There were a couple of action movies with a guy who is a huge star. There was a romantic movie that was almost all big dance numbers and furtive glances. I’m sure they produce crap and I have no idea if what I saw was supposed to be great or even representative.

  114. 114.

    jl

    Ha ha. Trump camp vaguely senses that in the general election, spouting BS hate slogans and pretending they are real policies won’t work in the general. Voters already turned off by the xenophobia and racism will be be even further pissed off if Trump reveals he has no clue how to do what he says he will do.

    So, how to back peddle and come up with an actual policy that can be implemented and not result in an intolerable human rights nightmare, and… still please all his fan base who wanted deportation camps, and goon squads? I mean, Trump told them he would never lie to them… and they placed their faith in Trump. His fans want human rights crimes, they want camps and they want a mass deportation. Trump riffing on turning weak Obama policy into something strong, and trying to look slightly more nasty than his GOP primary rivals won’t cut it with his base.

    This mess oouldn’t happen to a nicer guy.

  115. 115.

    Davebo

    @Schlemazel: Just go with Mahi Mahi, dolphin freaks people out.

    If you can still see the shore you aren’t offshore and if you are offshore, make sure you have two engines.

  116. 116.

    hovercraft

    @Frankensteinbeck:
    Unfortunately for him, we get to decide what we think of him. He can blame the media all he wants, but it’s his own words and behavior that condemn him. If one man calls you a racist, ignore him, if everyone calls you a racist…….

  117. 117.

    Schlemazel

    @redshirt:
    I don’t like it as much on TV because they tend to focus so much on the puck when so much of the important stuff starts away from the puck. That on most of what is on TV is NHL where the teams only seem interested in preventing flow and play making though physical abuse and dirty play. But there is no doubt, when the cup is on the line the best of the best play the game extremely well.

  121. 121.

    Litlebritdifrnt

    There was a wingnut calling into my local radio station this evening ranting about POTUS signing an executive order banning The Pledge of Allegiance. He said it was from “ABC News so you know its legit”. Radio host (also a wingnut) got all excited and said “we just posted it on our Facebook page”. Host came back 15 minutes later and said that it was “false’ there was no such EO and the ABC News link that the caller provided was a bogus ABC News link. Anyone know what this is about, I tried doing a search on Twitter and all I came up with was wingnut outrage over Florida allowing kids parents the right to opt out of their kids saying the Pledge.

  122. 122.

    jl

    @hovercraft: Trump is a classic white bigot to the bone. They aren’t jokes. He just can’t think any other way.

    I use the word ‘bigot’ even when the result is plain old racism, because I think there are distinctions. I think Trump views himself as not bigoted. Heck, he has many many friends among the ‘top’ African-Americans and Hispanics, and Muslims, you know, the ‘good’ ones. They have heart to heart conversations and he listens to them. A lot of white bigots I know get outraged if you hint they are racist. But their bigotry is so deep, they can’t think any other way, and they cannot imagine any white could think any other way. Anyone who does has either been brow beaten into denying reality, or is a weak loser who is afraid to step away from PC liberal dogma.

  124. 124.

    jibeaux

    I just have to tell someone, and I don’t think it’s right for FB, that I have reached peak Working Mom. Just realized that a pair of work pants, that I recently purchased, that I like and that still fit me, have a rip in the seam at the crotch. And thought to myself, “well, no one is going to notice that unless I spread my legs in their face, so back into rotation they go!”
    I need a wife.

  126. 126.

    rikyrah

    South Carolina:

    Hillary and Trump are TIED.

    Latest poll

    Hillary is polling at 25% of the White Vote.

    President Obama got 19.7% of the White Vote in 2012.

  127. 127.

    Baud

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    Host came back 15 minutes later and said that it was “false’ there was no such EO and the ABC News link that the caller provided was a bogus ABC News link

    That’s sadly impressive.

  128. 128.

    Schlemazel

    @Davebo:
    True about the fish. He did have 2 engines but it still freaked me out to see nothing but sea in such a tiny boat – 18 foot. We only went out on relatively calm days but I don’t trust the weathermen either!

  129. 129.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Baud: Astute point. It could be argued that Trump is just grifting and not really running for President. Or so I’ve heard.

  131. 131.

    Lurker Extraordinaire

    You can fish in saltwater from shallow water in Florida for free, you just gotta go get the paper to do so. I think it’s residents only, and you have to be a certain distance from the beach. 100 yards, I think it was.

    @?BillinGlendaleCA: They also don’t understand conservation in any way shape or form.

  132. 132.

    redshirt

    @Schlemazel: I don’t watch much hockey (I don’t watch much tv at all), but when I do, hockey at all levels always entertains me. Stuff happens, all the time.

    I read somewhere that there is about 12 minutes of actual action in a typical NFL game. A game that will go at least 3 hours by tv time.

  136. 136.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Baud: Yes. And he appears very determined to find wrongdoing on Secretary Clinton’s part vis-a-vis the Clinton Foundation. Wonder if he’s investigating Trump’s hustles like his business ties with Russia, his bankruptcies, his foreign debts, his University, his refusal to turn over his tax returns, his refusal to pay small businesses, etc.

  137. 137.

    Iowa Old Lady

    @Baud: How is it possible for someone to believe Obama would sign such an order? Even apart from everything else, it would be political suicide. I thought the same thing about death panels. How could anyone believe that politicians who depend on voters would enact such a thing?

    Even if you believe the people enacting such things are evil, how can you believe someone who has to be elected would do it?

  138. 138.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman: I like that there’s actual playoffs now. Can you imagine how boring a baseball season is if you’re 6 games out for most of the season with two teams ahead of you and only one team goes to the WS? So many fans would tune out because their team is out of it. Playoffs allow more teams thus more fans a shot – within reason.

  143. 143.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Litlebritdifrnt: Isn’t reciting the Pledge of Allegiance voluntary? How could POTUS ban something which is voluntary? How would that even be enforced?

    It’s funny what you will believe about someone whom you hate.

  144. 144.

    rikyrah

    There is reason for black women to fear traffic stops
    Abuse of power by police can affect any black driver who gets stopped

    BY WENDI C. THOMAS @WENDI_C_THOMAS
    August 23, 2016

    Not long after I arrived in Cambridge, Massachusetts, last August for a yearlong fellowship, a friend back in Memphis, Tennessee, asked me how I liked the city.

    I raved about the city’s walkability and the beauty of Boston’s subways. Compared with Memphis’ horribly inefficient bus systems, the T is a mass-transit marvel.

    Memphis, I told my friend, was still home, but Cambridge felt like freedom. I couldn’t articulate exactly what I meant until I moved back to Memphis earlier this month.

    My dad picked me up at the airport in my car, which I’d left behind. We loaded my luggage, and as if I were 16 again, I eagerly offered to drive. It’d been weeks since I sat behind the wheel, the master of my fate, the captain of my … well … car.

    But instead of feeling like I was free to move about the country (apologies to Southwest Airlines), I felt trapped.

    Suddenly driving a car wasn’t as much a mark of independence as it was an invitation to police scrutiny. And where I might have been able to fool myself into thinking my gender was a shield from unwarranted police attention and even abuse, recent events rudely remind me it is not.

    ………………………………

    But street stops represent only 1 percent of police contact. Most involuntary police contact comes through traffic stops. In 2011, the most recent year for which federal data was available, more than 21 million drivers were stopped by police.

    More black drivers than white or Hispanic drivers were pulled over, but white drivers were less likely to be searched or get a ticket. Perhaps not surprisingly, white drivers are also more likely to report that the officer behaved properly.

    While most of the highly publicized traffic stops that end badly involve black men, black women are hardly immune. For proof, watch the video that emerged from a July 2015 traffic stop in Austin, Texas. The white police officer is caught on the dash cam slamming Breaion King, a black school teacher half his size, onto the ground in a fast-food restaurant parking lot. He’d stopped the 26-year-old for speeding.

    It’s unlikely that a police encounter would end violently or fatally, but as a mounting pile of videos reveals, it happens with disturbing regularity. So far this year, more than 675 people have been killed by police. Nearly 25 percent of those people were black, although African-Americans make up about 13 percent of the nation’s population.

    By taking the train in Cambridge, I eliminated hundreds of chances to come in contact with police. Shelving my car keys meant setting aside the anxiety that tightens my throat every time I see a police car on the road or worse, in my rearview mirror.

    Mass transit is clearly an economic justice issue, but as long as police disproportionately stop black and brown drivers, it’s a criminal justice issue, too.

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    Lizzy L

    In 1957 I lived in Roslyn, NY, on Long Island. Everyone I knew was a Dodger fan. (Roy Campenella was my special hero.) We hated the Yankees passionately and proudly, and we desperately wanted the Milwaukee Braves to win the Series, to beat the Yankees and to avenge the prior years loss, when the Yankees had beaten the Dodgers in 7 games. The series was tied; Game 7 was on Thursday around 2:30 in the afternoon. I was in 6th grade. My sixth classroom had a radio in it. Classes were canceled so that we could hear the last game. The Braves won. I will never forget the joy of it.

    The next year the Dodgers moved to L.A. and all our hearts were broken. I gave up baseball for decades. Ah well.

  147. 147.

    catclub

    @hovercraft: I hope Hillary needles him about the team of investigators he sent to hawaii. If they actually debate.

    There is such a long list of things to bring up.

  148. 148.

    Schlemazel

    @redshirt:
    I was in London a few years ago & there was a Monday night TV show that ran every Sunday NFL game. The action went from snap to tackle/score. The showed 4 games an hour. here it take 4 hours a game. I hate the NFL.

  149. 149.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Baud: He appeared very defensive tonight on Chris Hayes. Poor guy. Imagine how crushed he will be when despite his best efforts, Clinton wins handily in November. Sad.

  151. 151.

    JPL

    @Litlebritdifrnt: There is a bogus ABC news site, that posts extreme views on all sorts of topics. I think that they are hoping to become the next Onion, but not as funny.

  152. 152.

    Nom de Plume

    @rikyrah:

    South Carolina:

    Hillary and Trump are TIED.

    That is just nuts. Where the hell does Trump put his resources? (Not that he’s doing much with his resources now). If even “safe” states are up for grabs, then there are simply too many swing states for him to cover. My heart bleeds for him.

  157. 157.

    hovercraft

    @Patricia Kayden:
    It’s getting ugly out there, but I don’t understand it, the media has been telling me for the last week that Trump has stabilized and now has the upper hand.
    @Baud:
    But he was popular and not a bigot, so neither is Trump?
    @jl:
    Le sigh, I’ve met too many of them, they think telling me that “you’re so well spoken” is a compliment. Kinda like Bill O saying that the people at Sylvia’s ( one of Harlem’s most famous Soul Food resturants), didn’t yell and curse when he went there for dinner with Al Sharpton.

  158. 158.

    Kay

    @Patricia Kayden:

    No public school student in the US can be forced to recite the Pledge of Allegiance:

    If there is any fixed star in our constitutional constellation, it is that no official, high or petty, can prescribe what shall be orthodox in politics, nationalism, religion, or other matters of opinion or force citizens to confess by word or act their faith therein. If there are any circumstances which permit an exception, they do not now occur to us. 19
    We think the action of the local authorities in compelling the flag salute and pledge transcends constitutional limitations on their power and invades the sphere of intellect and spirit which it is the purpose of the First Amendment to our Constitution to reserve from all official control.

  159. 159.

    PsiFighter37

    Josh Marshall says Trump isn’t getting as warm a reception in Texas now that he’s no longer calling for the browns to get bused back to Mexico. Sad!

  160. 160.

    Schlemazel

    @rikyrah:
    WOW! That is a very powerful reminder of white privilege also – I don’t even have to think about shit like that. Thanks for sharing that.

  161. 161.

    Cacti

    Some reliable sources on the internet have said that Trump’s poor health and erratic behavior are from untreated tertiary stage syphilis.

    ;-)

  163. 163.

    GregB

    Lizzy. There is a wall mural in my hometown if Nashua, NH that features Roy Campanella and Don Newcombe who were on the 1946 Nashua Dodgers roster making Holman Stadium and that Dodger team the first integrated pro ball park in the US.

  165. 165.

    dmsilev

    @rikyrah:

    South Carolina:
    Hillary and Trump are TIED.
    Latest poll

    Do you have a link? Pollster doesn’t show anything recent from SC, so I guess they haven’t had a chance to update yet.

  167. 167.

    Baud

    @hovercraft:

    It’s getting ugly out there, but I don’t understand it, the media has been telling me for the last week that Trump has stabilized and now has the upper hand.

    No kidding. I was expecting polls to tighten because of the media “pivot,” and because it’s late August, but it hasn’t happened. We’ll see.

  169. 169.

    dmsilev

    @Nom de Plume:

    That is just nuts. Where the hell does Trump put his resources?

    Well, he was recently sighted holding a campaign rally in Connecticut.

  171. 171.

    catclub

    @shomi: If trump brings up that the Clinton Foundation needs to be investigated, she should suggest his crack team of investigators, that he sent to hawaii looking for Obama’a birth certificate, should get on that.

  173. 173.

    glory b

    News alert from the Rachel Maddow show,”Our Revolution” former staffers report that Jeff Weaver is a bully who mismanaged the money.

  174. 174.

    Schlemazel

    @schrodinger’s cat:
    Sorry, I’m an American, there is a difference? Joking, but only on the “difference” part. I know there is Bollywood and that this guys stuff was from a different cultural part of the nation but I am not sure I really recognize one from the other even though I know the films I saw had very different feels. Such a small sample size & no outside information leaves me to my ignorance. But then I am not positive I even got the right guy there. There is a joke there but I am not going to make it

  178. 178.

    Capri

    I’m guessing the whole thing about Donald always flying back to his own bed is more about his hair, which probably takes hours to style and can only be properly done in his secret laboratory.

  179. 179.

    Schlemazel

    @efgoldman:
    Still too much hooking and holding for my liking. Plus a lot of cross-checks and charging (leaving your skates to make the hit is also charging by the rules). But I agree, there is less gooning but still not none.

  180. 180.

    Kay

    @Patricia Kayden:

    Florida wrote a state law that public schools had to inform people of the right to refuse the pledge in their handbooks. This school sent home a waiver where parents could check a box to have their kid opt out. I don’t know why but the (self-described)’patriotic’ parents interpreted this very simply worded waiver as meaning they had to opt IN to the pledge. Then Facebook was involved and it was down the rabbit hole where they ended up at..Obama.

  183. 183.

    ThresherK (GPad)

    @Baud: Could you be thinking of IBD? Investors Business Daily is where Ramirez goes to peddle his shifty (autocorrect sic) political cartoons.

    I don’t know anything about IBT. Could be it’s both.

  184. 184.

    redshirt

    @Capri: Some Code Pink type social warrior should try dumping water on The Donald’s head instead of pieing him. Imagine what would happen!

    “I’M MELTING!!!!”

  186. 186.

    Schlemazel

    @redshirt:
    Didn’t know that. It couldn’t be worse though. I remember when game 1 started at noon (Central) and game 2 would occasionally delay the start of 60 Minute 5 or 10 minutes. Now they run til 7

  188. 188.

    hovercraft

    @Patricia Kayden:
    I made the mistake of visiting The Nation today, near the top of the site, I found this:

    WAR ON TERROR
    How Obama Helped Lay the Groundwork for Trump’s Thuggery
    His refusal to prosecute torturers and his Wild West assassination of bin Laden show how moral complacency can all too easily degenerate into full-blown corruption.

    ROCHELLE GURSTEIN

    I didn’t reward the article with a click, but there is still a segment on our side who believe Obama and Hillary are corrupt. David Sirota became especially passionate during that segment when the Boston Globe guy said there was a memo from the Obama admin. laying out how the contacts between CGI donors and the State Dept would work. He mockingly asked why he should trust a memo or an agreement between the Obama and one of his aides.

  189. 189.

    J R in WV

    @SiubhanDuinne:

    She (Bardot) is a strict animal rights activist, didn’t know she has fascist tendencies. Really? ‘Cause those don’t seem to go together, really. Looking it up….

    Well, her husband appears to be the Donald Trump of France. Darn.

  192. 192.

    redshirt

    @Baud: I’m the opposite. I was so fired up and ready to go in 2008 but I always doubted America could elect a black man named Barack Hussein Obama. In 2012, they’d better re-elect him over the rich fat cat.

  200. 200.

    rikyrah

    Trump “Left Nothing But Ruins Everywhere He’s Gone”

    Published on Aug 23, 2016

    Paul Friel’s dad was “living the American Dream.” His family cabinet-making business had grown, and Donald Trump hired it to make all the cabinetry in his new Trump Plaza in Atlantic City. But after the job was done, Trump refused to pay the full amount of what was owed. Friel’s father filed a lawsuit, but his lawyer advised him the legal fees would outweigh the cost of the cabinet work. Friel decided to cut his losses and drop the suit — but Trump blacklisted Friel’s company anyway. Friel eventually had to lay off many of his workers, who had become his family. “Donald Trump thinks he can make America great again, but he’s left nothing but ruins everywhere he’s gone,” Paul says.

  201. 201.

    J R in WV

    @redshirt:

    I used to help the elderly Appalachian Bachelor Farmers next door in the summer mornings, and then after lunch, when it was really too hot to work in the sun, we would sit in the (not A/C) living room with a Cinci Reds game on TV.

    We would all nod off, until there was the crack of the bat, the roar of the crowd, and we would all be alert in time to catch the 1st base play. Those guys taught me all I know about farming, and lots of other important things.

    Long gone away now… I’ll never forget working with them, heat of summer, cold of winter.

  202. 202.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman: Listening. I did get to watch last night’s game in a SICK hotel room in Kenmore Square and I saw The Catch. And then I saw how young that kid is and I felt old.

    I’ve been turning old over the last month FYI. Mentally.

  203. 203.

    Tazj

    @Baud: Yes, that does seem strange for someone as pure a liberal as he is. Wasn’t he complaining about the public option forever, or am I thinking of someone else? “The Clinton Foundation has saved millions of lives.” Him, “So what, it’s not like the Clintons didn’t get something out of it.”

  204. 204.

    Anoniminous

    The Hill has it:

    A poll commissioned by the South Carolina Democratic Party shows GOP nominee Donald Trump in a dead-heat with Democratic nominee Hillary Clinton.

    Take with much salt. State party commissioned polls are known to be “optimistic” :-)

  207. 207.

    Miss Bianca

    @rikyrah: but what does any of this matter – that Trump has *actually* ruined countless numbers of lives, and given the chance would ruin countless more as POTUS? Clinton Foundation! Emails! Benghazi! Those are the REAL crimes!

  211. 211.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Kay: Thanks for that explanation. It’s sad that some people lack reading comprehension and turn moles into mountains. Your explanation is so simple and non-controversial.

    Reminds me of a local couple who freaked out because their daughter’s public school was teaching students about Islam in a class about world religions. The horror!!

  212. 212.

    NorthLeft12

    @hovercraft: Funny, the CBC just ran a story that Hillary’s lead over the Donald was becoming less comfortable. Even up here in Canada the media needs their horserace.

  213. 213.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    @Schlemazel: George Will is an idiot, but every decade or so, he makes a really good point. Sometime in the 1980s, he declared that football combines two of the worst aspects of American life: it’s violence interrupted by committee meetings.

  214. 214.

    Jeffro

    @dmsilev: aha! I believe I offered this as one of seven or eight possibilities for why Trump canceled out on CO, OR, and some other place…therefore, this makes me wiser than 90% of TV pundits…therefore, where is my new job, CNN?

  216. 216.

    redshirt

    @J R in WV: Nice description. Perfectly captures why I love baseball. Perfect background sport during the regular season, and can be intensely nerve wracking in playoff time. Or during regular season special situations – like Yankees v Red Sox games circa 2001 – 2007.

  217. 217.

    Jeffro

    Oh and btw has anyone from the media asked Trump what, exactly, he was doing in Texas, Connecticut, New York, and Mississippi recently with his dumb rallies? Stroking his ego? Flailing about? “Expanding the map”??

    Whoops I forgot, he only talks to Fox from here on out…nevermind…

  218. 218.

    J R in WV

    @Litlebritdifrnt:

    Florida doesn’t need to allow parents the right to designate that their kids don’t have to say the pledge. I’m pretty sure the 1st amendment keeps people from having government mandate what they way as well as it keeps the govt from not allowing their speech.

    Back in the Red Scare days they tried to make the pledge mandatory and the Jehovah’s Witnesses sued… The Supremes (communists that they are!) ruled that if you have a desire NOT to speak, that is as protected as the right to speech. The Witnesses don’t swear oaths, and don’t make pledges.

    Florida appears to be living in the 1940s, in another world.

    I will confess I have never said it with those newly added words “under god” in it, and no one ever knew the diff.

  220. 220.

    Patricia Kayden

    @Cacti: Well it would be irresponsible not to speculate. Plus if it’s on the internet, it has got to be true.

  223. 223.

    Baud

    Vox

    Jimmy Kimmel had a simple challenge for Hillary Clinton on Monday: Read Donald Trump quotes while keeping a straight face. She made it through a few — insights about how important it is to apologize when he’s wrong (“That’s profound,” Clinton joked), how he was the one who broke the glass ceiling for women in construction, and some of his insults to Rosie O’Donnell.

    But she couldn’t read one, forcing Kimmel to do it: “I’ve said if Ivanka weren’t my daughter, perhaps I’d be dating her.”

  224. 224.

    Tissue Thin Pseudonym

    @efgoldman: I’ll disagree that hockey should always be a hitting game. One of the things I found when I switched my primary interest to the women’s game is that I like no check rules. It forces you to play defense differently, in ways that are more tactically interesting.* When I watch men’s hockey now, I often find that players are making hits when it’s the wrong play; they’d be better off playing the puck than trying to level a guy.

    Also, men’s hockey really needs to move to the bigger ice surface. As the players have gotten bigger and faster, 85 feet just isn’t enough width.

    *Watching Kelly Terry backcheck is one of the purest joys I’ve ever had watching hockey.

  227. 227.

    James E Powell

    @hovercraft:

    giving a couple of telepromter speeches in front white audiences will not convince us to change our views of him.

    But did you notice who quickly and enthusiastically the press/media embraced it? Trump’s changed!

  228. 228.

    redshirt

    @efgoldman: Agreed. Especially for the NFL there’s been a cumulative effect where the refs defer to the replay and the replay (at HD) reveals more data so rules are changed to cover that (What’s a catch?) and then the refs are even more reticent and even the replay refs get it wrong. It’s a mess.

    My proposal (NFL only): Each coach gets two replay challenges a half. That’s it. No other replay. No automatic replay of anything. Thus, you can overturn truly bad calls in big situations (the intention of the rule, I think), and it’s a strategic tool that some coaches and staffs will use better than others.

  232. 232.

    NorthLeft12

    @hovercraft: It is amazing to me that the wingnuts who have been going on about Obama not being born in the US and have been applauding all the efforts of the Republicans to sabotage and delegitimize his presidency, are seemingly shocked that anyone would connect that to being a racist. Trump has been leading that parade for quite awhile, and even before that has a history of making racist comments about African Americans.
    So yeah, Donald polling under 5% among AAs is completely understandable to any reasonable person.

  235. 235.

    Anoniminous

    @Baud:

    By my calculation Clinton should pull between 342 and 357 EVs and Dems will retake the Senate. In 2016 that’s a tidal wave.

    The House? Who knows. It’s very possible but it depends on the State parties and they are moribund.

  236. 236.

    hovercraft

    @rikyrah:
    I will be surprised if he doesn’t show up in anti-Trump ads in PA this Fall, a la when Romney/Bain came to town.

  237. 237.

    ET

    So funny in a hoisted by his own petard sort of way, but the CNN headlines are How Healthy is Trump, Really?

    He and his allies went with that line of attack on Clinton and opened the door and now it is biting him on the ass. Karma is a bitch and given Trump’s history, she is looking to get a bit of his hide.

  238. 238.

    J R in WV

    @Mnemosyne:

    So I have seen. I don’t understand, but she has always been a little of an oddball. I read her Wiki article, an interesting but not that happy life.

  239. 239.

    jibeaux

    @hovercraft: Someone gave my husband a gift subscription to the Nation, and it landed us on every, and I mean, every, left-leaning group in the United States. They sell that list like it’s going out of style. I made him change it to his work address. So much fucking spam.

  240. 240.

    hovercraft

    @Jeffro:
    Kellyanne said that the campaign prior to today, was left over from previous management, which is why they had those cancellations yesterday.

  243. 243.

    Peale

    @ET: good. I’m glad that’s finally bubbling up. He lives in Manhattan, which is home to thousands of physicians, three of the top hospital systems in the country, and the country’s top cancer treatment center…and the only doctor he could find writes that he’s positive for everything?

  245. 245.

    hovercraft

    @NorthLeft12:
    If he gets that high, remember the margin of error. Some one pointed out yesterday that George Wallace got 3% when he ran for president and he was an avowed segregationist. And Donald may get less, the ignominy.

  246. 246.

    hovercraft

    @redshirt:
    We are a nation of laws, stop illegal immigration, build the wall.
    No more bad trade deals.
    No more dumb wars.
    I’m pretty sure that Coulter was for both Iraq and free trade before she was against them. As for Tweety he has always had a thing with immigration, he laments the lack of enforcement in Reagans amnesty, and he accuses democrats of not actually wanting immigration reform, but merely wanting to use the issue against republicans.

  247. 247.

    rikyrah

    How Watching the Brilliant Black Women of Team USA Turned Me into a Reluctant Patriot

    by Kimberly Foster @KimberlyNFoster

    As a woman who is both Black and American, my identity is fraught. I have not yet figured out how to reconcile all of its parts, but I do know I am hesitant to embrace patriotism. Because I grew up in the Midwest and South, public displays of strong nationalist sentiment are an immediate cause for concern. If, for example, I encountered a group of white men chanting “USA!” anywhere, I would immediately find an escape. What others may interpret as benign shows of pride are, to me, signals of imminent danger.

    My fears have roots in the racist past and present. For much of the 20th century, the Ku Klux Klan flew American flags at their rallies and exalted, what historian Trevor Griffey calls, “Christian patriotism” while they harassed and terrorized Black and Jewish Americans. These same sentiments embolden white “patriots” today to demean and harass anyone who is not white or Christian, and they undergird the rise of Trumpism as an accepted mode of political discourse. Although it was the stolen labor of my ancestors that “made America great,” my body is still is not seen as sufficiently American in many contexts. Black and brown people wrapping ourselves in the flag offers little protection from those who idealize the United States as a land of white rule; thus. we are perpetually subject to the indignities of simultaneous hypervisibility and erasure.

    Though I rarely carry the mantle of national pride, I did not choose to forego the quadrennial ritual of cheering on Team USA at the Olympics. I’ve been awaiting the Games in Rio for months, mostly to see Simone Biles’ dominance. But I had many more sisters in my head to encourage through my TV screen: Simone Manuel, Gabby, Lia, Venus and Serena, Ibtihaj, Allyson, Clarissa, Michelle, Ashleigh, Brittany, and Nzingha, just to name a few.

    Nothing delights me more than the thought of an elite Black woman athlete returning to the United States with more than the sense of satisfaction that accompanies a job well done. I hoped they would accomplish the goals they set for themselves as children. I wanted them to win.

    They did more than that. They dominated. Black women took home nearly a quarter of the medals won for the United States.

    http://www.forharriet.com/2016/08/how-watching-brilliant-black-women-of.html#ixzz4IDLFhwkn

  248. 248.

    glory b

    @Baud: Mismanaged the money from the primary, and wants to collect donations from millionaires and billionaires for the 501 (c) (4). It seems they’ve become good guys now.

    The former staffers complained that Bernie promised them that Jeff wouldn’t be involved, bue Jane brought him in.

  249. 249.

    redshirt

    @rikyrah: That’s a powerful article as it strikes at several powerful yet vulnerable spots.

    For example, was the white nationalist American cheering on the USA gymnastic team? Or was he rooting against them and maybe instead rooting for Russia? Serious question, because I bet there were plenty of skinheads and the like who WERE rooting for Russia, or Germany, or Sweden, or whomever they deemed “Whiter” then America.

  250. 250.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @redshirt: FWIW Germany and Sweden had non-white athletes. I suspect that Russia do as well, but I did not personally see them so I hesitate.

  251. 251.

    satby

    @Miss Bianca: I saw Anne Laurie’ s answer that she didn’t. I only learned a few words from an elderly great aunt as a child, so I’m no help either. But there’s a lot of resources here and here. The BBC one is for Northern Irish.
    Edited:
    Darn, the BBC one seems to be an inactive archive, too bad, it was a good online lesson site.

  252. 252.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus: I’m sure you’re right but they are a very statistical minority when it came to their overall representatives. Whereas African Americans make up a significant percentage of American Olympic athletes, far above their actual population percentage. Which makes us inferior to a Skinhead.

  253. 253.

    Villago Delenda Est

    @efgoldman: The reason replay is so popular is that we as sports fans are a nation of crybaby Donald Drumpfs.

    “Unfair! Unfair!”

  254. 254.

    Elie

    @ET:

    I have been saying for a while that Trump’s health is probably fragile. He is an avowed insomniac and clearly overweight. He huffs and puffs during speeches. Looking at him, I would say he is at the edge of being able to manage himself psychologically and physically. He looks older than his years. A wealthy man has the means to keep himself up. He looks terrible for someone who has cooks and others looking after him… Puffy eyes and poor energy. I bet those ankle and feet are swollen. He really looks as though he could be 80.

  255. 255.

    Omnes Omnibus

    @redshirt: You are probably right on the numbers. But on the other side, just for fun, but I would not be surprised if 2/3 or more of the US medals went to athletes who were POC. Might be more.

  256. 256.

    redshirt

    @Omnes Omnibus: If we count Africans, Asians, Hispanics, and even Australians? Yes, of course. This is, also too, the reason America is awesome. We can take in the entire world and make them American.

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