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This chaos was totally avoidable.

Give the craziest people you know everything they want and hope they don’t ask for more? Great plan.

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The next time the wall street journal editorial board speaks the truth will be the first.

Come on, man.

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You are here: Home / Open Threads / Surprisingly, it’s the whining that’s hardest to bear…

Surprisingly, it’s the whining that’s hardest to bear…

by Betty Cracker|  January 24, 20171:43 pm| 206 Comments

This post is in: Open Threads, Politics, Republican Venality, Assholes, Not Normal, Shitheads

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Like virtually everyone who isn’t a Nazi frog, dimwitted MAGA-mark or Bible-humping hypocrite, I’m appalled by the terrible actions the Trump regime is taking in its first week, such as dismantling the ACA (effectively murdering tens of thousands of people yearly), the anti-science gag rules and data dumps, the anti-choice hysterics that will hamstring humanitarian aid delivery, the DAPL reversal, etc.

There’s also the blatant quid pro quo and grift — donors and family members put into jobs for which they’re not remotely qualified, and sleazy, corrupt James Comey gaining job security the day after he showed up at the White House to literally receive kisses and hugs from his Godfather as well as that bloated entity’s most meaningful compliment: “He’s become more famous than me!”

But the ceaseless whining and demands for validation are somehow even more galling than watching the country morph into a conniving cocksplat’s kleptocracy of the incompetent. Mouth of Shitgibbon Kellyanne Conway was on the grievance tour, first lamenting the unfair coverage of the Trump White House to impartial millionaire media figure / Trump-tuggie specialist Sean Hannity yesterday:

Hannity spoke to Trump counsel Kellyanne Conway about the press’ “presumptive negativity” toward the Trump administration, and how they plan on countering irresponsible and reckless reporting.

“It would be nice to see people show respect for the office of the president and its current occupant,” Conway said. “Give him a chance to do right by the American people.”

She said if reporters are being “political hacks,” then the Trump team has a right to call that out.

“This White House and the media are going to share joint custody of this nation for eight years,” Conway said. “We ought to be able to figure out how to co-parent and mutually coexist.”

Two things: first, the gelatinous orange shit-stain who launched his political career with a racist, crackpot campaign to hound a sitting president about his birth certificate doesn’t get to whine about respect for the fucking office and its current occupant. They need to just stop that shit right now.

Second thing: one can rightly say many terrible things about the people of the United States, but we are most definitely not the minor children born of an unholy hate-fuck between the Trump White House and the infotainment industry. It is at once insulting, alarming and unsurprising that the Trump people see us that way. We have much to do to disabuse them of that notion.

The Sore Winner Tour’s next stop was to Fox & Friends this morning, where Conway regaled that odious threesome with tales of how unfair the Women’s March was because it engaged in “diatribe” instead of “dialogue.” She said women’s concerns would be addressed in “due time.” She also pre-whined about the expected coverage of the upcoming annual “March for Life” event.

Again, two things: First, women are half the population of this country, and Conway’s boss is the most despised new president in the history of polling, in part due to his long and extremely well-documented history of being a slimy sexist creep. So “due time” is right fucking now.

Second, the annual fetus fetishists’ Parade of the Busybodies will be microscopic compared to the Women’s March — hell, even Trump’s pathetic inauguration crowd will exceed it. The coverage won’t be as extensive, but it will definitely be more than the event warrants.

To echo Kay in the morning thread, these people really need to get over their neediness and go about the business of running the country into the ground without the constant whining.

Just last night, Trump lied to a congressional delegation about losing the popular vote because of millions of “illegals” flooded the polls. Why can’t that repugnant orange snowflake accept that he lost the popular vote and move the fuck on already?

I could bear watching these venal, grasping assholes ruin the country if they’d just stop demanding my respect and love. They haven’t earned it. They don’t have it. They never will have it. They should just shut the fuck up about it. It’s pathological.

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  1. 1.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 1:46 pm

    Samwise has the right attitude for monitoring the news.

  2. 2.

    raven

    January 24, 2017 at 1:47 pm

    Nova Scotia village hosts one of the smallest women’s marches, but it’s still mighty

  3. 3.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2017 at 1:48 pm

    “This White House and the media are going to share joint custody of this nation for eight years,” Conway said. “We ought to be able to figure out how to co-parent and mutually coexist.”

    God, that is so many kinds of wrong and creepy.

    I hope Lumpy does, as I think was rumored, put in an appearance at the God-botherers’ March, something not even Reagan or Shrubb would do– Reagan IIRC literally phoned it in– maybe between that and his upcoming USSC nomination, it will be another step in people waking up.

  4. 4.

    Boudica

    January 24, 2017 at 1:49 pm

    Wow. Conway starts planting the assumption he’ll be in office 8 years. Pretty arrogant on her part, unsurprisingly.

  5. 5.

    ? Martin

    January 24, 2017 at 1:51 pm

    @Boudica: Classic negotiating technique. Start unrealistically high and hope to settle for something in the middle. Surely there are WH staffers betting on whether he makes it even to 2018.

  6. 6.

    Humdog

    January 24, 2017 at 1:52 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: Did you get the couch so his fur will not show up on it? If so, brilliant! Looks like a happy cat :)

  7. 7.

    cosima

    January 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    Definitely like being in an abusive relationship. He’s hurting us because he loves us so much. It’s for our own good. Women definitely get that aspect of this fuckery.

  8. 8.

    zhena gogolia

    January 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    He’s so damn cute!

  9. 9.

    dedc79

    January 24, 2017 at 1:53 pm

    Along the same lines:

    Does former North Carolina Gov. Pat McCrory need protection? Do all current and former public officials? At least one state senator thinks so.

    After a video was posted on Facebook Friday showing a group of people following McCrory during a trip to Washington, D.C., for inaugural weekend, chanting “Shame!” and calling him a bigot, Sen. Dan Bishop of Charlotte says he’ll introduce legislation to protect public officials.

    The proposed legislation would “make it a crime to threaten, intimidate, or retaliate against a present or former North Carolina official in the course of, or on account of, the performance of his or her duties,” Bishop said.

    “Because lines are being crossed,” Bishop, a Republican who represents the 39th District in the North Carolina Senate, wrote in an email from his Senate campaign account.

    Bishop was one of the sponsors of House Bill 2, or “the bathroom bill” which McCrory signed into law.

    I guess I wasn’t the only one to shout at Lou Dobbs during his visit to DC this past weekend:

    In the video, which lasts three and a half minutes, McCrory, television personality and conservative pundit Lou Dobbs and three unidentified women are approached by people on the street who shout “Shame!” and call McCrory an “anti-gay bigot.” McCrory and his group try to avoid them but are followed down an alley where they waited to be admitted to a building.

    None of the people who were shouting physically engaged with anyone in McCrory’s group in the video. No one is heard making any threats. Many of them are shown taking video of the incident on mobile phones.

    Police eventually intervened and shooed the crowd away, though not before some of the protesters accused them of “protecting the homophobes.”

    In an emailed statement to The Charlotte Observer on Sunday, Ricky Diaz, who served as a spokesman for McCrory during his campaign for re-election said:

    “It’s regrettable that up to a few dozen protesters decided to stalk and shout insults at the governor and police when we should all be listening to each other and coming together as a country in a respectful manner. Governor McCrory is thankful to Lou Dobbs for helping during this incident, and very thankful to the D.C. police for keeping everyone safe during a very successful inaugural weekend.”

  10. 10.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Mouth of Shitgibbon Kellyanne Conway was on the grievance tour, first lamenting the unfair coverage of the Trump White House to impartial millionaire media figure / Trump-tuggie specialist Sean Hannity yesterday:

    She was also whining about how the media have put her life in danger.
    Kellyanne Conway Says She’s Getting Secret Service Protection After Receiving Threats

    President Donald Trump’s adviser says the media is to blame.

    Yes I posted it in an earlier thread, but everyone must see her for the evil demon she is. Josh Marshall was harsh in his write up of her lies. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/unconscionable–2

  11. 11.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Still waiting to hear where President Trumpov will be taking his victory tour later this week or next…it’s been a while, after all…let’s watch him dick it up for a while and start to make plans for the Tax Day March. ‘Til then, let’s keep up the Indivisible work!

  12. 12.

    Phylllis

    January 24, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    Reminds me of a former coworker who felt the need to constantly include his job title in every communication. He didn’t like it at all when I told him “Dude, you already got the job. Chill out.”

  13. 13.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 1:54 pm

    @Humdog: I’m sure I have no idea what you’re talking about. Who makes decisions like that based on a pet? ?

  14. 14.

    Ian G.

    January 24, 2017 at 1:56 pm

    This stuff makes me more confident that the shitgibbon will be as successful an authoritarian thug as he was a casino operator. By day 5 of the Pinochet regime, Victor Jara was dead (along with many others). Day 5 of Trumpistan? More hysterical crying that people are mean to him.

    Next time you try a soft coup, wingnuts, try someone who hasn’t fucked up every job he’s ever had in his life.

  15. 15.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 1:57 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    I resemble the emotion Samwise is showing. Is he a Russian Blue?

  16. 16.

    raven

    January 24, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    @Phylllis: I had that with this jerk from my high school that had his name and MBA on his Facebook handle and every communication I saw from him for years. I finally said “no one cares if you have an MBA” ! Needless to say he blocked me.

  17. 17.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    January 24, 2017 at 1:58 pm

    To be accurate, she’s Kellyanne Goebbels. Spice is Baghdad Sean.

    Obviously Twitler wasn’t satisfied with the older, Mouth of Sauron spokesdroids used by the Bushies. Instead he’s upgraded to the Baghdad line while using an actual human cloned in part from the recovered DNA of Herr Goebbels.

  18. 18.

    comrade scott's agenda of rage

    January 24, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    Oh and:

    conniving cocksplat’s kleptocracy of the incompetent

    is one of your best and that’s saying something. The hits they just keep coming!

  19. 19.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    @hovercraft: Maybe? He seems more like an enormous korat, but he could be part russian blue. His eyes aren’t quite the right color for either. He could just be a big gray cat.

  20. 20.

    Manyakitty

    January 24, 2017 at 1:59 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: With those dilated pupils, I’d say he’s on alert (and/or nip).

  21. 21.

    waspuppet

    January 24, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    @cosima: It doesn’t stop there. There’s also “You can’t trust anyone but me” and the related “We are in a situation completely different than anything that has ever arisen before. Absolutely nothing you know is of any use now.”

    Or for that matter “You have no idea what a terrible, dangerous world the REAL world is. Only I can solve it.”

    Just last night, Trump lied to a congressional delegation about losing the popular vote because of millions of “illegals” flooded the polls.

    I wanna know what the Democrats in that delegation said when he said that.

    Why can’t that repugnant orange snowflake accept that he lost the popular vote and move the fuck on already?

    Because then he’d have to do boring stuff like listen and compromise. That’s not why he wanted to be president.

  22. 22.

    Jim, Foolish Literalist

    January 24, 2017 at 2:01 pm

    and is that a Betty Cracker original rendering of the Spokesviper? Kudos.

  23. 23.

    Mary G

    January 24, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    This’ll hurt:

    WATCH: (This requires caps) SENATOR JEFF MERKLEY JUST HELD UP PHOTOS OF INAUGURAL CROWDS + MADE A TRUMP APPOINTEE ADMIT TRUMP'S WAS SMALLER pic.twitter.com/baOZldIiBn— Yashar (@yashar) January 24, 2017

  24. 24.

    Cacti

    January 24, 2017 at 2:02 pm

    For all the snide remarks the deplorables made about “snowflakes” and being “triggered”…

    They elected the biggest snowflake of them all.

  25. 25.

    randy khan

    January 24, 2017 at 2:04 pm

    Every time she (or anyone else in the Administration) whines, you should smile. It means they don’t think their message is getting through.

  26. 26.

    TriassicSands

    January 24, 2017 at 2:05 pm

    Sean Spicer just said that all of Trump’s cabinet nominees are “incredibly qualified.”

    I agree it is unbelievable that they are qualified.

  27. 27.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 2:06 pm

    I will tamp down on my rhetoric and just say that we need to win back the House and Senate in 2018, or we are screwed for the foreseeable future.

    Saddle up, let’s ride.

  28. 28.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 24, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    @raven: Sweet! Still tearing up.

  29. 29.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    @Manyakitty: I was watching Supernatural and inevitably there were loud noises and somebody yelling ‘SAM!!’

  30. 30.

    kindness

    January 24, 2017 at 2:07 pm

    I’m wondering why the Democrats who were in Trumps audience when he insisted 3 -5 million votes of fraud didn’t stand up right then and there and yell ‘YOU LIE!!!!!’ at the top of their lungs and continue pointing this out to Trump. Why are our Democrats such spineless assholes? They know what is being done to them. Why aren’t they fighting back just like Republicans did?

  31. 31.

    Gelfling 545

    January 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    @? Martin: I don’t expect him to last long. He’s already reported to be “bored” in the most demanding job on earth. Now that the rallies have stopped, there’s nothing to hold his interest.

    Incidentally, I hear he’s supposed to address Congress next month. What are the chances he’ll give something other than a campaign speech?

  32. 32.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: That is one beautiful smoky cat.

  33. 33.

    D58826

    January 24, 2017 at 2:08 pm

    @hovercraft: You know if the goopers hadn’t made such a big issue out of the Churchill bust in the oval office when Obama was POTUS then Miller probably would not have even made the original comment.

  34. 34.

    Cacti

    January 24, 2017 at 2:10 pm

    Alternative facts:

    Cats have puppies.

    2+2 = 170

    The Packers will be playing the Steelers in the Super Bowl.

    Ashton Kutcher wrote Hamlet.

    Ted Nugent was the most important guitarist of the 1960s and 70s.

  35. 35.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    @Mnemosyne: thank you for returning to the land of the helpful.

  36. 36.

    Patricia Kayden

    January 24, 2017 at 2:11 pm

    @kindness: I wondered why they didn’t collectively call him out for lying and then stomp out of the room. Why are they so dang polite to this extremely rude man?

  37. 37.

    D58826

    January 24, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    @Cacti: Trump the most beloved POTUS ever(sigh)

  38. 38.

    Esme and her mom

    January 24, 2017 at 2:12 pm

    You are fine, lady, love reading your posts and how they brighten my (increasingly) foul moods. Peace and rambunctiousness be with you.

  39. 39.

    Mary G

    January 24, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    Just complained to DiFi’s office about her vote for Pompeo and demanded equal opportunity obstruction for Trump same as Obama got, and that if she votes for/doesn’t put a hold on Sessions and DeVos, I will support her replacement.

  40. 40.

    kindness

    January 24, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    @Patricia Kayden: Seriously. Republicans rewrote the rules. Let’s play by the new rules.

  41. 41.

    ? Martin

    January 24, 2017 at 2:13 pm

    @Mary G: Important too. The power of answering questions under oath.

  42. 42.

    SenyorDave

    January 24, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    @hovercraft: Here is part of Kellyanne Goebbels remarks on Hannity:

    And the damage is done because then people look at Donald Trump as the ‘R word’.

    Gee, people think of the shitgibbon as a racist because of an erroneous report that he removed the MLK bust, and not because of a lifetime of racist actions, not the least of which is pushing the racist birther narrative for most of PBO’s presidency. I can honestly say I’m one of those people who generally doesn’t swear in front of women. I always thought that was for when I was playing basketball with the guys, or watching football and drinking beer, etc. But I have to say to KAC, GFY! She is an evil woman, I can’t even say I care if she is getting threats. TFB!

  43. 43.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 2:14 pm

    @kindness:

    I’m wondering why the Democrats who were in Trumps audience when he insisted 3 -5 million votes of fraud didn’t stand up right then and there and yell ‘YOU LIE!!!!!’ at the top of their lungs and continue pointing this out to Trump.

    I know, right? Talk about an instant ticket to the 2020 semi-finals.

    @Cacti:

    Ashton Kutcher did NOT write “Hamlet”, he wrote “The Taming of the Shrew”

  44. 44.

    ? Martin

    January 24, 2017 at 2:15 pm

    Can I just say, the State of the Union addresses are going to be epic.

  45. 45.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    I could bear watching these venal, grasping assholes ruin the country if they’d just stop demanding my respect and love. They haven’t earned it. They don’t have it. They never will have it. They should just shut the fuck up about it. It’s pathological.

    Still can’t bear it, but no. They never will have it.

    #NOTMYPRESIDENT.

  46. 46.

    Mary G

    January 24, 2017 at 2:16 pm

    @? Martin: Darrell Issa’s offices have stopped taking my calls, so now I am faxxing.

  47. 47.

    cckids

    January 24, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    I could bear watching these venal, grasping assholes ruin the country if they’d just stop demanding my respect and love. They haven’t earned it. They don’t have it. They never will have it. They should just shut the fuck up about it. It’s pathological.

    Amen. This is why I love Balloon Juice. Thank you, Betty.

  48. 48.

    Betty Cracker

    January 24, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    @Jim, Foolish Literalist: Nah, I just added hair and lipstick to an existing Mouth of Sauron animation still.

  49. 49.

    oklahomo

    January 24, 2017 at 2:18 pm

    @? Martin: Especially since KellyAnn will show up looking like an extra from one of the SciFi Dune miniseries…

  50. 50.

    Citizen_X

    January 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    @dedc79:

    a group of people following McCrory during a trip to Washington, D.C., for inaugural weekend, chanting “Shame!” and calling him a bigot

    Unimpressed, Cercei Lannister snorted into her wine glass, and ordered up more green fire, to be used against such a crop of sniveling weasels.

  51. 51.

    JordanRules

    January 24, 2017 at 2:19 pm

    Unanimous vote for Carson!?!?!? Whoo boy Democrats.

    Spicer now saying Obama’s election also illegitimate due to voter fraud.

    This can’t be life…

  52. 52.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 2:23 pm

    Two things: first, the gelatinous orange shit-stain who launched his political career with a racist, crackpot campaign to hound a sitting president about his birth certificate doesn’t get to whine about respect for the fucking office and its current occupant. They need to just stop that shit right now.

    This is a receipt that will be pulled up every phucking day that she opens her mouth about how much ‘respect’ Cheeto Benito deserves.

  53. 53.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    @JordanRules: Yeah, I heard about that on the news. Some D senator was saying that their concerns about Carson not believing in public housing were assuaged by something he said during the hearings. Apparently Carson is in the “not who I would’ve picked but able to run the agency” category now.

    What are Dems holding their fire for? What do they think goodwill will get them?

    Related: I also want to stop seeing “Scalia’s supreme court seat” and start seeing “Garland’s supreme court seat.”

  54. 54.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    They are still beating this dead horse.

    Spicer Grasps For Evidence To Back Trump’s Baseless Illegal Voting Claims

    The White House on Tuesday defended President Trump’s claims that “3 to 5 million people” had voted illegally in the 2016 election, providing no supporting evidence beyond an 8-year-old, discredited study.

    “He’s stated his concerns of voter fraud and people voting illegally during the campaign and continues to maintain that belief based on studies and evidence people have brought to him,” White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer said at a press briefing Tuesday.

    He was responding to a question about Trump’s reported claim that three to five million “illegals” voted in the November election, swinging the popular vote to Hillary Clinton.

    When challenged to summon proof for his claims, Spicer could not, aside from what he said was a study “that came out from Pew in 2008 that showed 14 percent of people who have voted were not citizens.” He also claimed “there were other studies that have been presented” to Trump. The reporter clarified that the study may have been based on a clerical errors, but Spicer moved on without addressing the discrepancy.

    “I think the President has believed that for a while based on studies and information he has,” Spicer said in response to another reporter’s questions on the topic.

    Later, a reporter said that if Trump’s claims were proven to be true it would be “the biggest scandal in American electoral history” and asked what the administration would do in that scenario. Spicer was similarly mum in response to that question.

    “As I noted several times, he’s believed this for a long time now, and I think he won fairly overwhelmingly,” he said.

    “Maybe we will” investigate it, he said when pressed further. “It was a comment he made on a long-standing belief.”

  55. 55.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 2:24 pm

    @JordanRules:

    Spicer now saying Obama’s election also illegitimate due to voter fraud.

    for real?

  56. 56.

    SenyorDave

    January 24, 2017 at 2:25 pm

    @JordanRules: Spicer now saying Obama’s election also illegitimate due to voter fraud.

    Do you have a source for this?

  57. 57.

    Wapiti

    January 24, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    @Mary G: Faxxing is good because it uses up their fax paper.

  58. 58.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 2:27 pm

    42 million get death sentence “The people who will be hurt the most by Trump’s Medicaid plan” by ThinkProgress

    — Pace e Bene (@cmpnwtr) January 24, 2017

  59. 59.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    Stunning.The USDA is now prohibited from sharing data with the public. This should send chills down your spine.

    — Caroline O. (@RVAwonk) January 24, 2017

  60. 60.

    tobie

    January 24, 2017 at 2:28 pm

    @Mary G: Wow! Thanks for the reminder about fax machines. I forgot that technology. Imagine the sound of faxes coming in all day. What a (delightful) ruckus for the GOP.

  61. 61.

    tobie

    January 24, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    @rikyrah: Not just the USDA. Also Transportation, Interior, and EPA. I wrote about this in the previous thread. It’s the most alarming news today–a day already filled with alarming news.

  62. 62.

    Mike in NC

    January 24, 2017 at 2:30 pm

    Caligula demands to be loved.

  63. 63.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 2:32 pm

    “It’s not enough to obey Big Brother. You must love him.”

  64. 64.

    Elizabeth

    January 24, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    @raven: @raven: Sutton WV had TWO woman PROUDLY MARCH!!!

  65. 65.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 2:33 pm

    @Mike in NC: oh shit, JINX! Buy me a coke.

  66. 66.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    @tobie: I saw (here?) that this might (does?) mean that things like “warning: your drinking water is poison” or “warning: your ‘pork’ is made of chicken” will not be published. Is that right?

    ETA: Report: Fax Machines Still Pretty Impressive If You Think About It

  67. 67.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 2:34 pm

    @D58826:
    Well it was fine to disparage the blah mans décor choices for his own goddamn office, after all he was only there because they let him be there. The new president belongs there and is free to do as he please no matter what previous norms are, it’s his goddamn office, so shut up. We should throw back ever single bullshit criticism they threw at Obama, let them stew now that the orange baboon is on the receiving end. Obama was confident in who he is, he didn’t need constant reassurance that he was great. He just brushed the dirt off his shoulders. The baboon can’t because he’s insecure. Wah !

  68. 68.

    p.a.

    January 24, 2017 at 2:35 pm

    It’s like they WANT to get to 27% support by alienating even their dim bulb supporters to get to the pure, reptile-brained distillate.

  69. 69.

    The Moar You Know

    January 24, 2017 at 2:36 pm

    Stunning.The USDA is now prohibited from sharing data with the public. This should send chills down your spine.

    @rikyrah: Shit’s getting real now. These people are not having any part of “democracy”.

  70. 70.

    LAO

    January 24, 2017 at 2:37 pm

    @hovercraft: I am, literally, stroking out right now about this press conference.

  71. 71.

    The Moar You Know

    January 24, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    It’s like they WANT to get to 27% support by alienating even their dim bulb supporters to get to the pure, reptile-brained distillate.

    @p.a.: But they aren’t alienated. They’re fucking thrilled. Finally someone’s delivering the right-wing totalitarianism they’ve been voting for since Reagan.

    That’s a problem I don’t know how you fix.

  72. 72.

    Jordan Rules

    January 24, 2017 at 2:38 pm

    @SenyorDave: Joy Reid’s tweet in response to LGF’s Charles Johnson who is essentially live-tweeting this insanity.

    https://twitter.com/JoyAnnReid/status/823970602885201920

    http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/46807_WATCH_LIVE-_Baghdad_Sean_Spicer_Holds_Another_Combative_White_House_Press_Briefing/comments/#ctop

  73. 73.

    dogwood

    January 24, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    @rikyrah:
    While the press chases after bogus stories about crowd sizes, voter fraud and the bust of MLK, and we focus on who voted to confirm whom, the administration is scrubbing data. If that never becomes a story with real legs, then we are going to be lost for a good long while.

  74. 74.

    Jordan Rules

    January 24, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    @LAO: Same.

  75. 75.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 2:40 pm

    CNN phrases it thusly in my news alert app:

    President Trump [ed.: *spit*] believes millions of votes for president were cast illegally, press secretary says without providing evidence for the debunked claim

  76. 76.

    Dave

    January 24, 2017 at 2:41 pm

    @LAO: Agreed need to harness that rage and crush the 2018 elections. And this group needs to be shown no or decorum if we gain that power. No looking forward until this is dealt with and expunged.

  77. 77.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 2:44 pm

    @rikyrah:

    Well, good to know that the next E. coli epidemic will be able to spread unchecked.

    Time to start making all of my food at home.

  78. 78.

    notoriousJRT

    January 24, 2017 at 2:45 pm

    I could bear watching these venal, grasping assholes ruin the country if they’d just stop demanding my respect and love
    I won’t watch them. I am just going to try really hard to make sure that 4 years is the longest time I have to acknowledge that they are in charge. F this Pity Princess. I hope majority Karma runs over her Dogma soon.

  79. 79.

    Tom

    January 24, 2017 at 2:48 pm

    @Dave: @Dave: As an alternative to expunged, we could follow Captain Jack Sparrow’s suggestion: “Shoot him, cut out his tongue, and then shoot the tongue!” In fairness, he was referring to Captain Barbossa, a far smarter and more compassionate man than the inmates of the current administration.

  80. 80.

    Betty Cracker

    January 24, 2017 at 2:52 pm

    @hovercraft: Trump’s inability to let go of the small shit is what will bring these stupid fucks down, I fervently hope. You know every professional in the shitgibbon administration, including Spicer, groaned aloud when Sunkist Stalin brought that absurd claim up again last night. It makes them look ridiculous, and that makes it harder for them to do their jobs, which is to shovel money to plutocrats while the Trump family skims the take.

  81. 81.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 2:53 pm

    It just keeps getting “better”. Not just not telling the public what’s going on, but prohibiting any disclosure to congress. I guess it has to be translated into weasel speak first.

    Federal Workers Told To Halt External Communication In First Week Under Trump

    Staff have been told to stop talking to Congress and the press.

    WASHINGTON ― Multiple federal agencies have told their employees to cease communications with members of Congress and the press, sources have told The Huffington Post.

    The freeze has startled aides on the Hill and people at those agencies, who worry that it could abruptly upend current operations and stifle work and discussions that routinely take place between branches of government.

    Officials at sub-agencies of the Department of Health and Human Services, for example, have been told not to send “any correspondence to public officials” according to a memo shared with HuffPost. Instead, they have been asked to refer questions to agency leadership until the leadership has had time to meet with incoming White House staff about the new administration’s policies and objectives, according to a congressional official who was also informed of the communications freeze.

    An official with the National Institutes of Health told HuffPost after the initial publication of this piece that an email had been sent to the directors of NIH institutes and centers providing guidance from HHS on how to handle new or pending regulation, policy or guidance.

    “The HHS guidance instructs HHS Operating Divisions to hold on publishing new rules or guidance in the Federal Register or other public forums and discussing them with public officials until the Administration has had an opportunity to review them,” the official said.

    It’s unclear how wide the freeze goes, however, as an official close to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said that agency was unaware of any such freeze.

    That said, there also appears to be a lockdown on external communication at the Environmental Protection Agency. As HuffPost reported Monday, a memo went out within the agency following a briefing for communication directors. The memo said there would be no press releases, social media posts or blog messages until further notice. It also asked for a list of external speaking engagements for staff and any planned webinars. It warned that listservs would be reviewed and that staff should “only send out critical messages, as messages can be shared broadly and end up in the press.”

    The EPA has also frozen its grants, sources told HuffPost on Monday. ProPublica later confirmed that freeze, as well as a stop on federal contracts, in an interview with transition sources.

    A similar directive has been issued to staffers at the U.S. Department of Agriculture’s research arm, BuzzFeed News reported Tuesday. The Agricultural Research Service employs 2,000 scientists and postdoctoral researchers. “Starting immediately and until further notice, ARS will not release any public-facing documents,” wrote Sharon Drumm, chief of staff for the research service, in a department-wide email that BuzzFeed obtained. The list of prohibited external communication included news releases, photos, fact sheets, news feeds and social media content.

    Sean Spicer, the president’s press secretary, said during his daily briefing on Tuesday that he needed to look further into the matter to offer a comment.

    But officials with the Trump transition team defended the freezing of EPA grants and contracts as somewhat larger in scope than the acts of previous transitions, but similar in mission. Myron Ebell, who led President Donald Trump’s EPA transition process, said it was to “make sure nothing happens they don’t want to have happen.”

    As for the communications freeze, sources on Capitol Hill said they are worried about the timing of the directive. Lawmakers routinely help constituents to interface with federal agencies, especially those that fall under the HHS umbrella. If officials who deal with Medicare and Medicaid policies aren’t allowed to talk to members of Congress, one Hill aide noted, it will be impossible to address constituent concerns with those programs.

    Additionally, this year’s Affordable Care Act enrollment continues until Jan. 31 and runs largely through the Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services, which falls under HHS. If constituents have questions about coverage options, the aide noted, the communications freeze may make it impossible to address those issues.

    It may also impede current scientific research that depends on federal funding, advocates worry.

    “Any effort to stop a scientific agency from responding to congressional, federal, state and local inquiries has a chilling effect,” said Ben Corb, director of public affairs at the American Society for Biochemistry and Molecular Biology. “We steadfastly believe peer-reviewed science should remain free of politicization, and we support the NIH [National Institutes of Health] and all federally funded scientific agencies in their efforts to continue on their missions without political interference.”

  82. 82.

    JanieM

    January 24, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    @hovercraft: Seriously, does Congress put up with this for longer than five seconds?

  83. 83.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 2:57 pm

    Parrotting these “illegal votes” ad nauseum is their setup for the massive disenfranchisment they are going to try to implement. This is probably the whole game, am I wrong? If they successfully disenfranchise millions nationwide, we will never get our country back.

  84. 84.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:
    Even the Vichy Times had to call him out on this bullshit claim.

    Trump Repeats Lie About Popular Vote in Meeting With Lawmakers Don’t worry the link is to the GOS which had a screen grab of the front page above the fold headline. This is day four, what will it look like after the first 100 days, if we make it that far?

  85. 85.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 2:58 pm

    So our governor, Jerry Brown, delivered his State of the State address this morning.

    Short version: Fuck Trump.

  86. 86.

    dogwood

    January 24, 2017 at 2:59 pm

    These gag orders are the cornerstone of an authoritarian state. We have had a system where government agencies produce data and the White House brags about good numbers or tries to spin negative information. All data will now come directly from the WH. We’re gonna need a lot of whistleblowers, and a press corps that understands the gravity of it all.

  87. 87.

    Miss Bianca

    January 24, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    @Yoda Dog: this is why I support Tom Perez for DNC chair. Because the single most important thing the Democratic Party needs to focus on, nation-wide, is voting rights, voter suppression, and getting disenfranchised people ready and able to vote. And so far as I can tell, he’s the man with the focus and the plan.

  88. 88.

    matryoshka

    January 24, 2017 at 3:00 pm

    “This White House and the media are going to share joint custody of this nation for eight years,” Conway said.

    Wow, really? Already won in 2020? I hate how she assumes that the White House and media are our parents, too, because it implies we are children.

  89. 89.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:01 pm

    @JanieM:

    Of course they do. This is the Republican agenda. Any attempt by the Democrats to protest will be squelched.

  90. 90.

    Miss Bianca

    January 24, 2017 at 3:02 pm

    @Major Major Major Major: *Now* CNN is growing a metaphorical pair? Oh well, better late than bever, I guess?

  91. 91.

    sukabi

    January 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    Slight correction Betty, it should be “yellow snowflake” with his penchant for p!ss and his cowardly whining for attention….

    Just saying.

  92. 92.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    @Miss Bianca: Hell yea, Im in NC; the cutting edge of voter suppression. Im still hunting around for the right org to work with but I WILL help people get registered and ready to vote for the special election and afterwards. Priority One.

  93. 93.

    Miss Bianca

    January 24, 2017 at 3:03 pm

    @hovercraft:

    If officials who deal with Medicare and Medicaid policies aren’t allowed to talk to members of Congress, one Hill aide noted, it will be impossible to address constituent concerns with those programs.

    Feature, not bug. Feature, not bug. Feature, not bug.

  94. 94.

    Millard Filmore

    January 24, 2017 at 3:04 pm

    @dedc79:

    we should all be listening to each other and coming together as a country in a respectful manner

    Translated: I will respectfully ignore everything you say, then you will do what I tell you.

  95. 95.

    geg6

    January 24, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    I ain’t these motherfuckers’ kid. Fuck these assholes. Someone needs to punch that beeyotch in the face like the Nazi she is.

  96. 96.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 3:05 pm

    @JanieM:

    Seriously, does Congress put up with this for longer than five seconds?

    What’re they gonna do?

  97. 97.

    Dave

    January 24, 2017 at 3:07 pm

    @Tom: We aren’t at the point yet where violence, outside of punching NAZI’s of course, is right. They must lose power and not be allowed to slink into the sunset. If they win square in 2018 and 2020 well then I may take up heavy drinking and despair at least for a while. Even then though nothing is ever truly over, barring a nuclear exchange, no victory or defeat is final. Still if we are going to end up with an authoritarian life leader (and I’m still much more optimistic than not that they are going to crash and burn) I would have preferred Obama or even Mattis being ruled by people I wouldn’t trust to run hell work a McDonalds overnight shift is just galling.

  98. 98.

    Mike J

    January 24, 2017 at 3:08 pm

    @Wapiti:

    Faxxing is good because it uses up their fax paper.

    In any office with technology from the past 20 years, it might use a bit of hard drive space. I haven’t seen a stand alone thermal paper using fax machine in decades.

  99. 99.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:09 pm

    In case people didn’t see the start of the series by Nate Silver at 538, I was a little wary of it myself, but he has some really good, data-driven pushback against the various media narratives.

  100. 100.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:10 pm

    @Mike J:

    Our fax machine is a multifunction printer, but it still prints to paper.

  101. 101.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    @Yoda Dog:
    No you are not, this is phase one of the great purge. Spokes Cobra is already priming us for eight years of Shitgibbon rule. They know that after four years of this people will be beyond done with the buffoon, so they need to shrink the electorate down as much as possible. Our job is to keep people aware of what he is doing every single day, we need them ready willing and able to do whatever it takes to vote come 2020.
    Considering he took the weekend off, he’s done a lot of damage in just the first 36 hours.

    Keystone and Nebraska Access Pipelines
    Global Gag Order back in place.
    Keeping Comey
    Freezing Federal Grants from the EPA
    Gutting Obamacare

    Those are just off the top of my head, but there’s more much more.

    And those assholes up on the hill haven’t been still either

    Congress’ First Move Under Donald Trump Is To Make Abortion More Expensive

    “Women across the country are terrified,” one Democratic lawmaker said.

     01/24/2017 01:22 pm ET

    WASHINGTON― The first bill Congress will debate under President Donald Trump is a sweeping anti-abortion bill that would make the procedure more expensive for women.

    The No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion and Abortion Insurance Full Disclosure Act would make permanent the Hyde Amendment, which denies abortion coverage in health insurance plans for women on Medicaid, military servicewomen, federal employees, residents of the District of Columbia, women in federal prisons, and women covered by the Indian Health Service.

    The bill also provides incentives for private health insurers to drop abortion coverage, bans abortion coverage in multi-state health insurance plans except in cases of rape, incest, or life endangerment, and denies women and small businesses tax credits if they choose health plans that cover abortion.

    The House is expected to pass the bill on Tuesday.

    *Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), the author of the legislation, told colleagues at a committee hearing on Monday night that fetuses “need friends” in Congress.

    * What the fuck is wrong with you people who keep electing this shithead to represent you? Honestly you and he are a disgrace to our state.

  102. 102.

    El Caganer

    January 24, 2017 at 3:11 pm

    @Yoda Dog: That’s what struck me, too. It would be one thing if it was just Trump throwing these ludicrous temper tantrums, but all of them demand affection. The final triumph of the totalitarian state – Winston Smith realizes he loves Big Brother.

  103. 103.

    chopper

    January 24, 2017 at 3:12 pm

    fetus fetishists’

    “fetushists”, if you will.

  104. 104.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 3:13 pm

    @Yoda Dog:
    No you are not, this is phase one of the great purge. Spokes Cobra is already priming us for eight years of Shitgibbon rule. They know that after four years of this people will be beyond done with the buffoon, so they need to shrink the electorate down as much as possible. Our job is to keep people aware of what he is doing every single day, we need them ready willing and able to do whatever it takes to vote come 2020.
    Considering he took the weekend off, he’s done a lot of damage in just the first 36 hours.

    Keystone and Nebraska Access Pipelines
    Global Gag Order back in place.
    Keeping Comey
    Freezing Federal Grants from the EPA
    Gutting Obamacare

    Those are just off the top of my head, but there’s more much more.

    And those assholes up on the hill haven’t been still either

    either

    Congress’ First Move Under Donald Trump Is To Make Abortion More Expensive

    “Women across the country are terrified,” one Democratic lawmaker said.

     01/24/2017 01:22 pm ET

    WASHINGTON― The first bill Congress will debate under President Donald Trump is a sweeping anti-abortion bill that would make the procedure more expensive for women.

    The No Taxpayer Funding for Abortion and Abortion Insurance Full Disclosure Act would make permanent the Hyde Amendment, which denies abortion coverage in health insurance plans for women on Medicaid, military servicewomen, federal employees, residents of the District of Columbia, women in federal prisons, and women covered by the Indian Health Service.

    The bill also provides incentives for private health insurers to drop abortion coverage, bans abortion coverage in multi-state health insurance plans except in cases of rape, in ce st, or life endangerment, and denies women and small businesses tax credits if they choose health plans that cover abortion.

    The House is expected to pass the bill on Tuesday.

    *Rep. Chris Smith (R-N.J.), the author of the legislation, told colleagues at a committee hearing on Monday night that fetuses “need friends” in Congress.

    * What the fuck is wrong with you people who keep electing this shithead to represent you? Honestly you and he are a disgrace to our state.

  105. 105.

    randy khan

    January 24, 2017 at 3:14 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Subpoenas.

    Seriously, the point about constituent inquiries probably is what kills this. There’s no way that Congress will put up with being told that agencies have to do a “mother may I?” before answering a question about why someone was denied veterans benefits or what’s going on with someone’s Social Security payment. Messing up constituent services is a great way to lose an election.

  106. 106.

    Jordan Rules

    January 24, 2017 at 3:16 pm

    Could the new admin’s response to the tornadoes in Georgia and Mississippi be problematic? Of course!

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/weather/officials-beg-trump-send-help-after-storms-kill-20-across-n711071

  107. 107.

    The Moar You Know

    January 24, 2017 at 3:18 pm

    What’re they gonna do?

    @Major Major Major Major: This Congress? Bring gasoline to the fire. They’re driving this.

  108. 108.

    A Ghost to Most

    January 24, 2017 at 3:19 pm

    Righteous Rant!

    I was on a conference call with people I know well, including a name-dropping trumpist I dislike, made a backhanded swipe at big O, and goaded me to return in kind at shitgibbon. I was furiously silent for several seconds, then said “I don’t joke about fascists”. Stopped him dead in his tracks.

    I’m near retirement, and DGAFF anymore.

  109. 109.

    cosima

    January 24, 2017 at 3:19 pm

    My husband was talking to his mother the other night about his brother in law. He’s been teaching at a uni in a different country, and they’ve offered to give him (and my husband’s sister) citizenship & a position. He’s an authority in a very specialised field. Mister was telling her that he’d better take them up on that b/c he’s just the sort of person to be co-opted by the gov for sketchy programs (nuclear, etc) given his expertise. I thought he was being very tinfoil hattish as I was listening. That gag order is scary, and now I think maybe my husband wasn’t so crazy.

  110. 110.

    O. Felix Culpa

    January 24, 2017 at 3:20 pm

    So, this video was just posted from the march in Santa Fe. I still feel encouraged by the event. And yes, we even had giant puppets!

    And for those who ask, but what about action? – my resistance grouplet is taking a letter to our two Senator’s offices in a little while to encourage them to stand firm against Sessions, Tillerson, DeVos et al. Others are demonstrating at the Roundhouse (state capitol) right now. Friends are calling legislators to oppose the Trump agenda and protect anti-poverty programs. We’re organizing to institute universal Pre-K in Santa Fe. We’re training in social media to communicate issues and action steps. We’re planning our GOTV strategies for the 2018 gubernatorial and legislative elections. We’re rebuilding and rebranding our Hillary website to provide resources for action. We’re running for Ward Chair and other Democratic Party roles. That’s just for starters. Any questions about action?

  111. 111.

    Mike J

    January 24, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    Our fax machine is a multifunction printer, but it still prints to paper.

    Without even asking? Most places just send the fax to your email.

  112. 112.

    cosima

    January 24, 2017 at 3:21 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: Good for you. More of us should take that position in regard to responses. ‘So, you like authoritarians? You like fascists? You prefer kleptocracy to democracy?’ etc etc in that vein.

    I am so glad I don’t have to deal with that any longer. Surrounded by sane people. Glob I hope it lasts.

  113. 113.

    Raoul

    January 24, 2017 at 3:23 pm

    What the fuckity fuck? Senate cttee just approved Ben Carson to HUD unanimously.

    Is this some new eleventy dimensional surrender-chess?

  114. 114.

    Mike J

    January 24, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    @Jordan Rules: From the tornado story:

    In Dougherty County, Georgia, where four people were killed, county commission Chairman Chris Cohilas said Monday that he has been “begging FEMA for boots on the ground,” referring to the Federal Emergency Management Agency.

    From Politico election results:
    Dougherty County GA:
    Clinton 68.5%
    Trump 30.1%

  115. 115.

    matryoshka

    January 24, 2017 at 3:27 pm

    @Millard Filmore: Yep, dad (shitgibbon) and mom (the press) are fighting, and we are all supposed to sit down and shut up while they wreck the house.

  116. 116.

    Peale

    January 24, 2017 at 3:28 pm

    @Yoda Dog: Kind of. I think they have to do more than just announce that they are looking for illegal alien voters. In order to win in the long run, they really need to stop demographic change from happening. They are all in on not wanting to win over additional voters. they don’t want to offset Mexican-Americans voting for Democrats, say, by snatching away African Americans. So I would expect that there will be a combination of more ID laws, voter purges, and voting place shenanigans like in North Carolina (as well as absolute freak outs when those don’t guarantee statewide wins any longer). Additionally, they are going to mess with the whole notion of citizenship. I think you will see the number of naturalizations go way down, attempts to make people who are currently legal, illegal, a reduction in the number of permanent residents, etc. They will probably go after the idea of “natural born”. Since they will be in charge of planning the 2020 census, I expect that they will seriously futz with the way things are counted so that more electoral votes move to rural areas. They’ve been talking about doing these things for years and now they have a chance.

    We have to be very careful which of these battles we choose to fight, since they will take place at all levels. Hopefully the judiciary will put the brakes on some of it, but as we learned in NC, state actors who just ignore the courts can do a lot of damage without much consequence in Red States.

  117. 117.

    geg6

    January 24, 2017 at 3:29 pm

    @Mike J:

    All of ours on our campus do the same as Mnem’s. Some of the University’s more sensitive areas, like student aid, have a fax that directly scans incoming faxes into closed viewers. But never, ever, ever to emails. Emails are the least secure possible means. The University actually prefers a fax, whether sending or receiving because landlines are much, much, much more secure than any other means.

  118. 118.

    khead

    January 24, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Beautiful kitteh!

  119. 119.

    Comrade Colette Collaboratrice

    January 24, 2017 at 3:31 pm

    Every single press conference from now on needs to include some variant on the following questions:

    “Mr. President,* given that you lost the popular vote by almost 3 million votes, how do you plan to address the needs of that majority of Americans who don’t support you or your program?”

    “Mr. President,* in light of your huge loss in the popular vote, how do you plan to gain the trust of those millions of Americans so they’ll vote for you next time?”

    “Mr. President,* does your loss of the popular vote foreshadow problems for Republican candidates in the upcoming midterm elections?”

    Of course he won’t answer the questions, which are all predicated on him having a program, or being the slightest bit interested in Americans or Republican candidates or anything but his own bloated, fragile self-importance, but they’ll keep him in constant gibbering, rage-tweeting meltdown mode – and that’s about the best we can hope for.

  120. 120.

    A Ghost to Most

    January 24, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    @cosima:
    I met an ally at work yesterday, and it surprised and delighted me, because he is a social person in all the right ways. I’ll let him do the talking to others.

    Right now my inclination is to take a swing. Better living through chemistry…

  121. 121.

    matryoshka

    January 24, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    @Raoul: No, I think they are still hoping to prove how bipartisan they are.

  122. 122.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:33 pm

    @Mike J:

    Nope, it just prints. I work in just one office of a Giant Evil Corporation that has literally tens of thousands of employees at scattered locations all around So Cal (and the world), so it’s just not worth it to our IT departments to mess around with faxing. Don’t even get me started on the fact that my division is on a different email system than the rest of the GEC.

  123. 123.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    @Peale: “We have to be very careful which of these battles we choose to fight, since they will take place at all levels.”

    We do? Seems like there is enough of us to fight them all as they come.

  124. 124.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 3:34 pm

    @Betty Cracker:

    Trump’s inability to let go of the small shit is what will bring these stupid fucks down, I fervently hope. You know every professional in the shitgibbon administration, including Spicer, groaned aloud when Sunkist Stalin brought that absurd claim up again last night. It makes them look ridiculous, and that makes it harder for them to do their jobs, which is to shovel money to plutocrats while the Trump family skims the take.

    I think they’re in full meltdown mode already, and have decided to lock down the government…they know their numbers and power will only erode from here on out. Any Republican MoCs who want to pull the brake on this runaway train, now’s the time…

  125. 125.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:35 pm

    @Mike J:

    Well, they’re screwed. You know that Trump’s merry band of assholes is going to check stuff like that before they agree to send help.

  126. 126.

    TriassicSands

    January 24, 2017 at 3:36 pm

    @Raoul:

    Carson hasn’t killed anyone. Neither has he been convicted of arson.

    Hence, qualified.

    Next nominee.

  127. 127.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 3:37 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Considering he took the weekend off, he’s done a lot of damage in just the first 36 hours.

    Keystone and Nebraska Access Pipelines
    Global Gag Order back in place.
    Keeping Comey
    Freezing Federal Grants from the EPA
    Gutting Obamacare

    Those are just off the top of my head, but there’s more much more.

    Withdrew from TPP
    Openly antagonizing China
    Several GOP Reps have reportedly stopped answering their phones
    Calling on Ingraham’s news outlet, then Breitbart, to start off their joke news conference today

  128. 128.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 3:39 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: This and the tax returns. Any reporter worth a shit should be asking him about this daily. “Mr. Fuckstick, if you’ve already won the election and don’t have anything to hide on your tax returns, then why not release them and end all this unfair criticism and speculation?” Why this is never asked, I do not understand.

  129. 129.

    Major Major Major Major

    January 24, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    @randy khan: Oh, do Republican executive branch members respond to congressional subpoenas all of a sudden?

  130. 130.

    The Moar You Know

    January 24, 2017 at 3:40 pm

    From Politico election results:
    Dougherty County GA:
    Clinton 68.5%
    Trump 30.1%

    @Mike J: Oh fuck, I can already see how this is going to work. They will not get one dime in Federal help.

  131. 131.

    Shalimar

    January 24, 2017 at 3:42 pm

    @Comrade Colette Collaboratrice: Won’t answer the questions and has made it very clear whoever asks them will be kicked out of the White House press corps. The press needs to get used to the same adversarial relationship that the Washington Post had with Trump during the camp. No one who writes negative stories about the administration is going to have access.

  132. 132.

    SenyorDave

    January 24, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    @Jordan Rules: Could the new admin’s response to the tornadoes in Georgia and Mississippi be problematic? Of course!

    Hey, competence in government is for liberal wusses

  133. 133.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:43 pm

    @khead:

    Ruemara and I got to meet Samwise (and Major^4, of course). His coat is just as plush and velvety as it looks.

    (Samwise’s, not Major^4’s.)

  134. 134.

    TriassicSands

    January 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    Sherrod Brown on his vote to approve Carson’s nomination:

    However, “despite my reservations, and my disagreements with some of his positions, I will give Dr. Carson the benefit of the doubt based on commitments he has made to me in person and to this Committee in his testimony and written responses,” said Brown.

    And I thought Brown was smarter than that. Yeah, Carson promised Brown personally that he’ll be a good HUD secretary. It doesn’t get any better than a personal guarantee from a Republican.

  135. 135.

    bystander

    January 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    So, Betty, it seems you’ve completed the Rude Pundit’s Better Your Word Power program. Good job!

  136. 136.

    mle

    January 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    @dedc79:
    kind of sounds like what women walking into family planning clinics have to put up with.

  137. 137.

    Iowa Old Lady

    January 24, 2017 at 3:44 pm

    @hovercraft: Here’s an article about Trump’s claims that refutes that 14% non-citizens voting in 2008 stuff.

  138. 138.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    Every last person who pretended to take an oath of office on Friday needs to be repeatedly Richard Spencered.

    That is all.

  139. 139.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 3:45 pm

    @TriassicSands:

    Meh. I suspect Carson is going to flame out pretty promptly, and I bet the Democrats are assuming the same.

  140. 140.

    Villago Delenda Est

    January 24, 2017 at 3:46 pm

    @Yoda Dog: Please. It’s Mr. von Clownstick. Fuckface is his first name.

  141. 141.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2017 at 3:47 pm

    The Sore Winner Tour’s next stop was to Fox & Friends this morning, where Conway regaled that odious threesome with tales of how unfair the Women’s March was because it engaged in “diatribe” instead of “dialogue.”

    Trump could have acknowledged the March. He didn’t.

    He also could have invited people from the March to a luncheon, as he did with business and union leaders. He could alternately have invited every woman member of Congress to lunch, without regard to political party or political ideology. He could even have claimed that he was being more inclusive than the marchers.

    Conway is not helping her boss by simply being an attack dog.

  142. 142.

    TriassicSands

    January 24, 2017 at 3:50 pm

    @dogwood:

    …and a press corps that understands the gravity of it all.

    I’m sorry, I just can’t stop laughing after reading that…

  143. 143.

    tobie

    January 24, 2017 at 3:51 pm

    I just got off the phone with the local office of my Democratic representative. Told the office that Dems would have the Representative’s back but he needed to speak out loudly now about the assault on democracy with the gag orders on HHS, EPA, NIH, Interior, Transportation, and USDA. I basically begged the representative to try to be all over the local news tonight about the efforts take the government of, by, and for the people from the people.

  144. 144.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    @Mike J:
    What do you want to bet that the Shitgibbon knows those numbers? We are about to see governing by spite in action. I hope it brings down the GOPer Governors who supported the petulant short fingered asshole. Most of tornado and hurricane country is red.

  145. 145.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 3:52 pm

    J-Rubs is kicking Orangemandias while he’s down and it’s beautiful: Trump’s emotional tailspin was predictable

    President Trump has not been in office for a week, but already’s he wilting under the pressure. “President Donald Trump is the first elected president in Gallup’s polling history to receive an initial job approval rating below the majority level,” Gallup reports. “He starts his term in office with 45% of Americans approving of the way he is handling his new job, 45% disapproving and 10% yet to form an opinion. Trump now holds the record for the lowest initial job approval rating as well as the highest initial disapproval rating in Gallup surveys dating back to Dwight D. Eisenhower.”

    …

    To repeat, nothing much of substance, certainly no major policy defeat, has yet occurred. One shudders to think what will happen when setbacks do occur.

    Trump’s inability to acknowledge his own lack of support prompts him to seek refuge in “alternative facts” — to lie to himself and others. The Post reports, “Days after being sworn in, President Trump insisted to congressional leaders invited to a reception at the White House that he would have won the popular vote had it not been for millions of illegal votes … Two people familiar with the meeting said Trump spent about 10 minutes at the start of the bipartisan gathering rehashing the campaign. He also told them that between 3 million and 5 million illegal votes caused him to lose the popular vote.” The obsession with replaying the election and concocting a phony excuse for losing the popular vote reminds us that despite mockery for constant lying, Trump cannot help himself. He lies because reality won’t conform to his narcissistic view of the world.

    Wowzers. Can I get a Congressional Democrat to say that during the SOTU? The condensed form is, “YOU LIE!”

  146. 146.

    Dave

    January 24, 2017 at 3:53 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Agreed honestly it’s probably because Carson will do the least damage of his picks. With possible exception of Mattis who may actually, wonders of wonders for this admin, be good. I’m reservist had a discussion with a CPT who loves Trump and Mattis and the guy was surprised that Mattis didn’t favor water boarding. I pointed out because leaving aside morality and strategic cost of being the bad guys it doesn’t even work it’s sorta scary he assumed because Mattis is fairly aggressive that he would therefore be bloodthirsty. Sadly I don’t think I made a lasting impact there. Sorry a bit off topic from your comment just had me thinking about how conservatives are so in a the bubble they don’t even see the people they put on pedestals.

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    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    So M4 is not well groomed? SAD ;-(

  148. 148.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 3:54 pm

    @hovercraft:

    What do you want to bet that the Shitgibbon knows those numbers? We are about to see governing by spite in action. I hope it brings down the GOPer Governors who supported the petulant short fingered asshole. Most of tornado and hurricane country is red.

    Shitgibbon doesn’t know jack shit about jack shit. Bannon knows, and he may or may not let Trumpov know, but it’ll be up to him whether or not we’re going to respond to emergencies based on R and D voting patterns. It’s ok: if there is a difference in the way districts get treated, we’ll know and point it out; if there isn’t, then at least in this one area they know better than to fuck around.

  149. 149.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 24, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    Late to the thread, but I’m bemused how the Trumplings just don’t get that everything–EVERYTHING–they’ve done so far will annoy the left, a.K.a., the plurality of people who voted. Not a token nod to anything even moderate, let alone progressive! And they want a chance, they suddenly want respect for the office, and all that jazz.

    F.U. conservatives.

  150. 150.

    Jordan Rules

    January 24, 2017 at 3:55 pm

    @Mnemosyne: Why vote affirmatively for a flame out tho? Hell, I’m looking for work. Give me the job. LOL

    I don’t get anything right now so maybe I’m just missing something. This is all just so damn crazy.

  151. 151.

    zhena gogolia

    January 24, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    A friend just said she’d knit me a puzzy hat!

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    raven

    January 24, 2017 at 3:56 pm

    @Dave: Better be cleaning your ruck and getting ready to suit up!

  153. 153.

    J.

    January 24, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    I agree, Betty. Trump is a whiny toddler — one who is obsessed with his peepee and wants everyone to admire it. And, unfortunately, there are no adults in the room who can get him to behave. Sad!

  154. 154.

    zhena gogolia

    January 24, 2017 at 3:57 pm

    @TriassicSands:

    Okay, last night we had dinner with friends who like to say “realistic” things. They were saying that it’s the president’s prerogative to pick his cabinet, and they shouldn’t be opposed except for something really serious. I’m afraid that represents the conventional wisdom.

  155. 155.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 3:58 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): Their behavior uniformly suggests they are not worried about winning future elections.

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    randy khan

    January 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    Republicans will subpoena them if they don’t get what they want. That will be reward enough. (I’m not being cheerily optimistic here – one of the few things that still unites the parties in Congress is the belief in Congressional privileges.)

  157. 157.

    Timurid

    January 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    @Yoda Dog:

    THIS.

  158. 158.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 3:59 pm

    All of you need to just stop listening, reading and or watching the media.

    Rep. Lamar Smith: ‘Better To Get News Directly From Trump’

    The push to delegitimize the main stream media by Trump surrogates continued as Rep. Lamar Smith, the chairman of the House Science, Space and Technology Committee needs to reassess his duties at that committee chair since he believes Donald Trump is the only person capable of delivering the news because he speaks “the unvarnished truth.”

    Rep. Smith whined that if Donald was a Democrat, the media would be reporting on the new president much differently.

    Lamar said the liberal media won’t report that Trump is strong like bull. Or something to that effect.

    Rep. Smith said, “No, the national liberal media won’t print that or air it or post it,” Smith said. “Better to get your news directly from the President. In fact, it might be the only way to get the unvarnished truth.”

  159. 159.

    Immanentize

    January 24, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Dayum, Betty! That was one righteous rant. Thank you!

  160. 160.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    @Mary G:
    Good for you. DiFi is well past her sell-by date and that’s not an age thing, it’s a she’s on the wrong side of too many issues thing. She’s also openly considering running for another term in ’18, which actually would trigger an age thing but she’s got two years left on this one so straighten the hell up, lady; remember we’re now the minority opposition!

  161. 161.

    TriassicSands

    January 24, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    @Brachiator:

    Excuse me, but NO ONE respects women more than Donald Trump.
    Trump said it and since there are no known cases of Trump lying I think we can take him at his word.

  162. 162.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 4:00 pm

    Btw the Twitter account for Badlands National Park is going nuts sending out climate change statistics and facts (you know, actual ones, not “alternative facts”)

    One of the better responses was “…somewhere in South Dakota, a ranger pushes his desk against a door, as sirens draw closer…”

    #RESIST

  163. 163.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 24, 2017 at 4:01 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Your Link Fu is off today I believe. But thanks for the snippet anyway.

  164. 164.

    Mike in NC

    January 24, 2017 at 4:02 pm

    @Mnemosyne: No doubt that Carson will be the first cabinet member to need replacement. He has no qualifications for that job and is already quite wealthy. He’ll get bored fast and a generic old white guy will be named to replace him.

  165. 165.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    @Yoda Dog:

    You think they just want to loot and scoot?

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    trollhattan

    January 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    @hovercraft:
    Gosh, feel the butthurt.

    Rep. Smith whined that if Donald was a Democrat, the media would be reporting on the new president much differently.

    Isn’t that basically a granny+wheels=go-kart proposition? Did he actually watch them sling mud at Obama for nine years?

  167. 167.

    Jordan Rules

    January 24, 2017 at 4:03 pm

    @Jeffro: Yep. It can’t be stated enough that Bannon and Kushner are the ones running things. Trump just wants to be the cosplay POTUS. Trump was never a great intellectual or hard worker and it’s clear as day that he’s in cognitive decline. It aint him!

    Bannon and Kushner have different philosophies and goals that they are willing to force into a strange and deadly alliance. They are horrible on their own and worse when coupled together. I wonder if they ever game plan who would “win” if their dream scenarios were taken to their logical conclusions.

    By the way @Mike J Thanks for finding that election data. Absolutely chilling. I hadn’t even thought about that.

  168. 168.

    Dave

    January 24, 2017 at 4:04 pm

    @raven: I’m on glide path to retirement no longer deployable of course who knows if that will be stable for this. I’ve already been on four tours and Iraq was bad enough from an ethical stand point. I don’t need a third conflict.

  169. 169.

    zhena gogolia

    January 24, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    I believe he means they will stay in power without any elections.

  170. 170.

    pat

    January 24, 2017 at 4:05 pm

    @Yoda Dog:

    Parrotting these “illegal votes” ad nauseum is their setup for the massive disenfranchisment they are going to try to implement. This is probably the whole game, am I wrong? If they successfully disenfranchise millions nationwide, we will never get our country back.

    Exactly what I’ve been thinking for some time now, ever since the nomination of Jeff Sessions to be AG. We have seen the last Democrat in the white house.

  171. 171.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    @Jeffro:
    Joe Wilson was punished with [counts on fingers] four reelections after calling Obama a liar in front of congress, the Supreme Court and the world. We should do likewise.

  172. 172.

    hovercraft

    January 24, 2017 at 4:06 pm

    @Jeffro:
    I disagree, I think that it’s like the polls before the election, he’s obsessed with this unpopularity he is experiencing. He had expected to lose and be able to claim that the system was rigged against him, but then he won, but in the shittiest way possible, losing the popular vote by millions. He resents the hell out of the FACT that he lost the popular vote, so I can totally see him asking his minions how every place voted. Any request for funds or resources will be run through that metric, by him, Bannon may be the one keeping track for him, but it is his vindictiveness because of his insecurity that is the source.

  173. 173.

    bystander

    January 24, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    @Brachiator:

    …Conway regaled that odious threesome with tales of how unfair the Women’s March was because it engaged in “diatribe” instead of “dialogue.”

    Where’s Madonna when you need her?

    (Which is a variant of an old graffito the Boomers will recall…)

  174. 174.

    trollhattan

    January 24, 2017 at 4:08 pm

    @Mnemosyne:
    It matters little what Carson does or does not [far more likely] do, it matters that congress is about to gut HUD then block-grant the rubble.

  175. 175.

    Miss Bianca

    January 24, 2017 at 4:10 pm

    @zhena gogolia: and “knowing absolutely nothing about, or being overtly hostile to, the agency you’re being asked to head” doesn’t count as “really serious” for your friends?

    What will, I wonder?

  176. 176.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while):

    You think they just want to loot and scoot?

    Just the first part.

  177. 177.

    Mnemosyne

    January 24, 2017 at 4:11 pm

    @hovercraft:

    Now, now, I was only commenting on their respective coats, and a plush velvety kitty coat beats a navy pea coat every time.

  178. 178.

    cosima

    January 24, 2017 at 4:12 pm

    @A Ghost to Most: If there would be one good thing to come out of this it would be that it sets fire to the GOP party in such a way that being a republican is synonymous with pedophile/serial murderer/etc. When we lived in TX we met a couple of nice families (it was like our little one had a Dem detector or something) who were so relieved to have found another Dem family. It wasn’t that long ago (6 years), and yet it was definitely something that was kept on the down-low lest you be shunned. I, however, was loudly dismissive of anyone who supported a party that included Palin, and considered myself better off without them in my circle (as was the inevitable outcome of that conversation).

    I’m glad that you found an ally. Each & every one is good for the soul, and I firmly believe that. Having lived in red states, blue states, and now in the UK, I know the value of being with like-minded folk.

  179. 179.

    ruckus

    January 24, 2017 at 4:13 pm

    @raven:
    Should have told him that MBA stands for Must Be Asshole.

  180. 180.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 4:16 pm

    @pat:

    Exactly what I’ve been thinking for some time now, ever since the nomination of Jeff Sessions to be AG. We have seen the last Democrat in the white house.

    No. There will be a democrat in the white house in Jan, 2121. We will stop them. Don’t despair. The moral arc is real and we shall overcome this.

  181. 181.

    Tehanu

    January 24, 2017 at 4:17 pm

    “Mouth of Shitgibbon” — Betty, this is one righteous rant. Thanks!

  182. 182.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    @West of the Rockies (been a while): Dang it…I was on a roll for a while there…

    I think I got the link right this time. ;)

    Thanks West!

  183. 183.

    ruckus

    January 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    @p.a.:
    It’s primarily because they are part of the reptile brained distalete.

  184. 184.

    Quinerly

    January 24, 2017 at 4:24 pm

    @bystander:
    It seems Kellyann Conway punched a guy in the face at one of the inaugural balls….the Liberty Ball. Crooks and Liars site reporting it. That’s all I got.

  185. 185.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 4:27 pm

    @trollhattan: There are plenty of safe Ds who can, and should, figure out how they’d like to disrupt any address that Trumpov gives to Congress. Walk out, stand up and start orating, call “BULLSHIT!”, whatever they are comfortable with. They will put yet another crack in the dam…

  186. 186.

    Jeffro

    January 24, 2017 at 4:28 pm

    @Yoda Dog: Please tell me you mean January 2021

  187. 187.

    zhena gogolia

    January 24, 2017 at 4:29 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Not gonna happen.

  188. 188.

    Immanentize

    January 24, 2017 at 4:35 pm

    @trollhattan: Thereby helping to create the hellhole Trump imagines.

  189. 189.

    John Weiss

    January 24, 2017 at 4:41 pm

    “They should just shut the fuck up about it. It’s pathological.”

    Right on, Cracker!

  190. 190.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    @TriassicSands:

    However, “despite my reservations, and my disagreements with some of his positions, I will give Dr. Carson the benefit of the doubt based on commitments he has made to me in person and to this Committee in his testimony and written responses,” said Brown.

    This is ridiculous.

    The man doesn’t believe in FAIR HOUSING!!

    Voting against him wasn’t a hard choice.

  191. 191.

    West of the Rockies (been a while)

    January 24, 2017 at 4:44 pm

    @Quinerly:

    I saw that, too, with the commentary from some random GOP operative about how Conway is a tough cookie, rah, rah, starbursts and erections.

  192. 192.

    catclub

    January 24, 2017 at 4:49 pm

    @Raoul:

    Is this some new eleventy dimensional surrender-chess?

    Why not? Someone who knows the bureaucracy will know how to make it do bad things.
    Turn down Carson and somebody else will be nominated, who could easily be worse – competent and evil.

  193. 193.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 4:50 pm

    @Mnemosyne:

    suspect Carson is going to flame out pretty promptly, and I bet the Democrats are assuming the same.

    Carson is being put out there are the Black face on the future LOOTING of HUD.
    Bet.on.it.

  194. 194.

    rikyrah

    January 24, 2017 at 4:54 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    No doubt that Carson will be the first cabinet member to need replacement. He has no qualifications for that job and is already quite wealthy

    He will be the first to go, because it will be the first to get the scandal from looting.

  195. 195.

    Juju

    January 24, 2017 at 4:55 pm

    @Yoda Dog: when you find a suitable organization, let me know. I’d like to work on voter registration in NC as well. I’ve looked around a bit myself. The March elections will be here before you know it.

  196. 196.

    Betty Cracker

    January 24, 2017 at 4:59 pm

    @Quinerly: I’ll believe that story when there’s corroboration from a credible source, which would be someone other than Conway herself or the Fox News knob who claims to have seen it. Conway is one of the most shameless liars on the planet, and anyone who admires her can’t have much respect for the truth.

  197. 197.

    Brachiator

    January 24, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @Mike in NC:

    No doubt that Carson will be the first cabinet member to need replacement. He has no qualifications for that job and is already quite wealthy.

    Carson, DeVos, and Perry make up a trifecta of Unqualified.

  198. 198.

    J R in WV

    January 24, 2017 at 5:08 pm

    @Major Major Major Major:

    When we buy furniture, we always evaluate the surfaces as to resistance to cat’s claws, dog’s wet or muddy fur, etc. Seems like common sense. We don’t pick a color based on pet colors, as we have 2 cats and 2 dogs, all different colors.

    Black and brown tortie cat, light gray/dark gray/ brown tortie cat, blond lab mix, white lab mix. What “color” would match all that?

  199. 199.

    ? Martin

    January 24, 2017 at 5:12 pm

    @Mary G: Take it from someone who people don’t like taking calls from – just show up in his office. That’s what we’re organizing to do for our rep whose office is about 10 miles from my house.

  200. 200.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 24, 2017 at 5:17 pm

    I have an interesting SOTU fantasy. Upon the first Grand Lie of the SOTU, Democratic women stand up and silently leave. Once they’re out the door, so do Democratic men.

    Does he sputter incoherently, does he double down on lies? Does he stroke out?

  201. 201.

    Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes

    January 24, 2017 at 5:21 pm

    @Jeffro:

    Beat me to it.

  202. 202.

    Skepticat

    January 24, 2017 at 5:42 pm

    @Mnemosyne: True dat. And that’s the goal from which we simply cannot take our eyes.

  203. 203.

    Yoda Dog

    January 24, 2017 at 5:57 pm

    Shit! 2021!!!! lol, that typo really put a damper on my positive message… XD

  204. 204.

    Skepticat

    January 24, 2017 at 6:34 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I only wish our “representative” had that much courage.

  205. 205.

    Skepticat

    January 24, 2017 at 6:46 pm

    @Skepticat: Sorry, representatives plural.

  206. 206.

    The Lodger

    January 24, 2017 at 7:29 pm

    @Le Comte de Monte Cristo, fka Edmund Dantes: I like the idea that one Dem MoC leaves every time Trump lies, and tells the press what the lie was right outside the chamber.

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